ESTA refusé
by MarieNantes2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je vais voir des amis au Québec fin juillet et j'avais l'intention de profiter de mon voyage pour aller à Chicago. Le 12 juillet, j'ai donc fait une demande d'ESTA qui a ma grande surprise a été refusée (je frôle la cinquantaine, j'ai un casier judiciaire vierge et -c'est triste d'avoir à s'en prévaloir- je porte un nom "bien français"). J'ai refait la même demande le 15, et elle a encore été rejetée. Entre temps, j'ai fait une demande de recours (on me promet une réponse pour dans six semaines environ).
Je n'irai donc pas aux Etats-Unis (je n'avais pas acheté mon billet, tant mieux). Mais Depuis hier, je me demande même s'il est judicieux d'aller au Québec : en fait, vous allez peut-être me trouver parano mais j'ai peur de me faire expulser en arrivant là bas... Quelqu'un peut-il me dire s'il y a des risques que cela se produise ? Par ailleurs les rejets d'ESTA sont-ils fréquents (aucun de mes collègues ou amis n'a été confronté à un tel problème).
Merci de me répondre, même si mon inquiétude peut vous sembler exagérée
MarieNantes2
a moins d'avoir omis de nous signaler une information importante il est probable que vous avez du faire une erreur en remplissant le questionnaire...
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Pas besoin d'esta pour rentrer au Québec , au Canada. Ne laisse pas les "Américains " gâcher ton plaisir de voyager .
Je ne connais l'esta que de nom n'en ayant pas besoin mais doivent ils donner une raison pour le refus ?
Je ne connais l'esta que de nom n'en ayant pas besoin mais doivent ils donner une raison pour le refus ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Non, je n'ai rien de particulier (maladie contagieuse, appartenance politique extrême...) et j'ai lu et relu ma demande, que j'avais imprimée, et j'ai vraiment coché les bonnes cases. Peut-être ai-je une homonyme indésirable (j'ai un nom et un prénom des plus banals...) Merci pour la réponse en tout cas.
MarieNantes2
Mais Depuis hier, je me demande même s'il est judicieux d'aller au Québec : en fait, vous allez peut-être me trouver parano mais j'ai peur de me faire expulser en arrivant là bas...
Le Canada et les États-Unis sont deux pays différents, il n'y a aucune raison qu'un Esta refusé t'empêche d'aller au Canada. L'Esta est un formulaire uniquement pour les États-Unis.
Le Canada et les États-Unis sont deux pays différents, il n'y a aucune raison qu'un Esta refusé t'empêche d'aller au Canada. L'Esta est un formulaire uniquement pour les États-Unis.
vraiment désolée de ce qui vous arrive, mais sachez que vous ne saurez jamais pourquoi il a été refusé.
Aucune communication ne se fait à ce sujet.
Vous avez bien que des NON ?
vous êtes-vous fait voler votre passeport un jour ? cela pourrait être une piste mais reste hypothétique.
Aucune communication ne se fait à ce sujet.
Vous avez bien que des NON ?
vous êtes-vous fait voler votre passeport un jour ? cela pourrait être une piste mais reste hypothétique.
Mon passeport est tout neuf. Le dernier passeport que j'ai eu en ma possession devait dater de 1999 ou même de 1998. Je l'ai égaré en déménageant et je l'ai donc déclaré perdu quand j'ai fait ma demande de renouvellement. Par ailleurs la femme d'un de mes cousins s'est fait voler son passeport au Canada. Elle a le même nom d'épouse que mon nom patronymique et le même prénom que mon second prénom et n'est donc pas une vraie homonyme. En plus, elle a une dizaine d'années de plus que moi. Par ailleurs j'ai vu qu'on pouvais vérifier si on figurait sur une liste d'interdits de vols. Comment fait-on ? Mais dans ce cas j'aurai dû avoir des problèmes avant, encore que je n'ai voyagé que dans l'espace Schengen ces dernières années.
MarieNantes2
La piste de l'erreur technique est certainement la bonne. Mais tu as presque raison sur un point, quand tu passes la douane canadienne, ils ont acces a ton dossier penal/judiciaire si tu vis aux USA et des Americains se sont deja vus refuse l'entree au Canada pour des conneries d'enfance faites 20 ans auparavant genre ebriete quand on etais ado !
... Mais tu as presque raison sur un point, quand tu passes la douane canadienne, ils ont acces a ton dossier penal/judiciaire si tu vis aux USA et des Americains se sont deja vus refuse l'entree au Canada pour des conneries d'enfance faites 20 ans auparavant genre ebriete quand on etais ado !
Ok c'est possible , mais pourquoi rapporter cette info sur un sujet qui ne concerne QUE des français (non résident, c'est vraiment tout mélanger Les services immigration canadiens n'ONT PAS accès aux données casiers judiciaires français et sauf a être l'objet d'un avis de recherche international via Interpol aucun risque pour un français (non résident Canada/USA) de se faire bloquer en entrant au Canada pour une raison judiciaire
Ok c'est possible , mais pourquoi rapporter cette info sur un sujet qui ne concerne QUE des français (non résident, c'est vraiment tout mélanger Les services immigration canadiens n'ONT PAS accès aux données casiers judiciaires français et sauf a être l'objet d'un avis de recherche international via Interpol aucun risque pour un français (non résident Canada/USA) de se faire bloquer en entrant au Canada pour une raison judiciaire
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Mon passeport est tout neuf. Le dernier passeport que j'ai eu en ma possession devait dater de 1999 ou même de 1998. .
Il est fort possible que ton métier "Maitre de conférence" n'autorise pas l'accès en VWP donc ESTA refusé et visa obligatoire ... a vérifier !
Il est fort possible que ton métier "Maitre de conférence" n'autorise pas l'accès en VWP donc ESTA refusé et visa obligatoire ... a vérifier !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
En ce qui me concerne, je n'ai pas de casier judiciaire de toute façon, comme probablement la plupart des touristes lambda qui veulent aller aux USA. Mon inquiétude concernant un possible refus d'entrée au Canada est d'ailleurs sans doute infondée mais je commence à fantasmer une éventuelle interconnexion entre tout et n'importe quoi (j'en viens à me demander si la préfecture de Nantes n'a pas transmis à nos chers alliés à grandes oreilles la déclaration de perte mon ancien passeport, que j'ai faite au moment de m'en faire délivrer un nouveau. Quelqu'un peut me dire si je suis cinglée ou réaliste ? (A la préfecture, ils ne peuvent pas... et me conseillent d'aller me renseigner au consulat ou à l'ambassade US, où ils semblent croire qu'on entre comme chez Carrefour !) Par ailleurs, une fois que vous avez fait une déclaration de perte de passeport, même si vous le retrouvez, il n'y a pas la possibilité pour eux d'intégrer ce changement dans le logiciel (c'est vrai que ce n'était pas la peine de prévoir une situation si improbable, les gens n'égarent et ne retrouvent jamais rien...)
MarieNantes2
On se connaît (je n'ai précisé nulle part ma profession sur le forum) ? De toute façon, le fait d'être maître de conférences n'est certainement pas un obstacle à l'obtention de l'ESTA (sur le formulaire on ne demande pas la profession et de toute façon, nombre de mes collègues -y compris ces affreux contestataires que sont les sociologues - se rendent aux EU sans difficultés).
MarieNantes2
(je n'ai précisé nulle part ma profession sur le forum)
Ta profession est renseignée dans ton profil... et ce profil est consultable par n'importe qui, qui cliquerait sur ton pseudo.
Ta profession est renseignée dans ton profil... et ce profil est consultable par n'importe qui, qui cliquerait sur ton pseudo.
Par ailleurs j'ai vu qu'on pouvais vérifier si on figurait sur une liste d'interdits de vols. Comment fait-on
bonjour,
sur la NO FLY list de la TSA aucun interdit ne porte votre patronyme même s'il y à un Marius dont le patronyme est proche
taper ''TSA No Fly List''
bonjour,
sur la NO FLY list de la TSA aucun interdit ne porte votre patronyme même s'il y à un Marius dont le patronyme est proche
taper ''TSA No Fly List''
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
On se connaît (je n'ai précisé nulle part ma profession sur le forum) ? .
Ah bon et qui l'a mentionné dans ton profil 🙂 Occupation(s): Maître de conférence, sociologie
Ah bon et qui l'a mentionné dans ton profil 🙂 Occupation(s): Maître de conférence, sociologie
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Par ailleurs j'ai vu qu'on pouvais vérifier si on figurait sur une liste d'interdits de vols. Comment fait-on
...sur la NO FLY list de la TSA aucun interdit ne porte votre patronyme même s'il y à un Marius dont le patronyme est proche... taper ''TSA No Fly List''
Il n'y a certainement pas que la NoFly list pour générer les accords/refus de ESTA
Ne pas oublier que l'ESTA n'est qu'un GROS ordinateur paramétré avec des critères bien précis !
...sur la NO FLY list de la TSA aucun interdit ne porte votre patronyme même s'il y à un Marius dont le patronyme est proche... taper ''TSA No Fly List''
Il n'y a certainement pas que la NoFly list pour générer les accords/refus de ESTA
Ne pas oublier que l'ESTA n'est qu'un GROS ordinateur paramétré avec des critères bien précis !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
On se connaît (je n'ai précisé nulle part ma profession sur le forum) ? .
Eh oui 😉
Tu as maintenant appris que tu peux toi aussi aller voir à qui tu as affaire ....si bien entendue c'est la vérité qui est écrite 😉
Eh oui 😉
Tu as maintenant appris que tu peux toi aussi aller voir à qui tu as affaire ....si bien entendue c'est la vérité qui est écrite 😉
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Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!