Date de délivrance en France du passeport biométrique américain
by Mlefevre
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous.
Est-ce que l'un d'entre-vous aurait une info (même officieuse) sur la date à laquelle la France sera ENFIN en mesure de délivrer ces fameux passeports biométriques?
Est-ce que la situation se décante à l'imprimerie nationale???
Nous partons le 28 juin aux USA et ça me ferait l'oeuf de faire des passeports vieille mouture + des visas pour nos 3 enfants, si finalement on pouvait avoir des passeprots biométriques à temps.
Marie
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Aux dernières infos, pas avant la fin du mois d'aôut. (Source : Tourmag)
Aïe, Aë, Aïe.
Il faut que je m'agite alors!
Marie
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Bonjour,
Lu dans le Figaro du dernier w.e : " le Ministère de l'Intérieur a indiqué hier que les premiers passeports biométriques verront le jour en mai 2006"
Je ne sais rien de plus précis !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
MMouais...
Mieux vaut faire comme si...
Ca risque de se bousculer en mai juste avant les gdes vacances.
En tout cas, merci pour vos infos.
marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Apparement vu sur un reportage tv, le problème est commercial. En Belgique et en Allemagne c'est une société privée qui est chargée de fabriquer de tels passeports, et cette société voudrait prendre le marché en France. Ce en quoi, les salariés (et les syndicats) de l'imprimerie nationale qui depuis la nuit des temps sont chargés de la fabrication des papiers d'identité, s'opposent. Donc discussion--> arbitrage d'un tribunal administratif, donc attente, pour surement ensuite cour d'appel et je ne sais quoi encore.
Donc on attends..
El Lobo
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
en voila un scoop😛😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Voilà de l'Officiel de chez Officiel : http://www.service-public.fr/accueil/passeport_biometrique.html
J-Luc
J-Luc
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Merci J-Luc ! Toujours là au bon moment avec une vérité "d'enfer" 😏
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
tu veux dire quoi????
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Merci vazyvite.
Bon ben, qd faut y'aller, faut y'aller.
Marie
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a moins que vous habitiez en region parisienne, que vous puissiez prezndre d assaut l ambassade des usa pour un visa, ou renoncer à votre voyage, votre parcours sera cahotique.
EN EFFET
LES passeport biomètriques sont bloqués (conflit avec l imprimerie nathinoale et oberthur) et donc si vous sollicitez un nouveau paseport, ilo faut un visa. La france etait au courant depuis 2 ans mais na pas trouvé une situation de recours.
Si vous interrogez notre représentation nationale, ils vous repondront unaniment que les usa ont imposé un visa -ce qui est faux- les usa ont impose un passeport biométrique que notre foutu état est incapable de mettre en place, pauvre france, pauvre pays, pauvres députés, il est vrai que pour voyager eux ne se posent pas ce genre de question.
ca va exploser je vous le dit
Bravo Deville ! j'adhére à 100%
il lui suffisait de voir une carte pour se mettre à l'étudier avec passion, puis, invariablement, il commençait à projeter quelque nouveau voyage impossible, qui, parfois, se transformait en réalité. »
PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
c'est absolument vrai ce que tu dis. Ces putains d'enfoirés de députés, ministres, haut- fonctionnaires et autre bande de profiteurs se foutent éperduement de nos tracas. Eux voyagent aux frais de la princesse et ne se préoccupent pas si tu doit t'emmerder devant une ambassade des USA et dépenser ton fric stupidement à cause de leur insouciance qui n'est pas une légende mais une tare familiale.
Je me met rarement en colère mais c'est vrai que je suis exaspéré par l'attitude de tous les pouvoirs publics français, ce, dans tous les domaines.
C'est une honte que d'être entrainé à la faillitte par ces putains de "CON"servateurs de tous bords.
Viva la révoluçion!...
(en attendant, ne relachez pas, le continent nord américain, çà vaut le coup.!)
Un vieil acharné mais éternellement amoureux..!!!bip! bip!.. Go west man!.. go west!..
Un vieil acharné mais éternellement amoureux..!!!bip! bip!.. Go west man!.. go west!..
C'est vrai qu'on est les seuls AU MONDE avec les Italiens de Berlusconi à ne pas être foutus de s'organiser à temps!!!
LA HONTE!!!
Heureusement nos enfants ont moins de 13 ans et on va pouvoir faire les visas par courrier. Ca ne nous coûtera donc QUE 255 EURO + 2 CHRONOPOST!!!
Grrrr!!!
Marie
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Je ne suis pas spécialement admirateur de "ceux qui nous gouvernent" mais dans la cas présent, il faudrait que les faits réels ne soient pas masqués par une colère légitime !
Le fait réel est que le Ministère qui va bien (Intérieur ou finances je sais plus) avait -après appel d'offres il me semble- accordé à un imprimeur privé le contrat de fabrication du passeport biométrique. Lequel devait sortir fin 2005 je crois. Quand ils ont appris ça, les syndicats de nos gros travailleurs de l'imprimerie nationale ont réagi comme d'hab : une bonne vieille grêve, arguant de l'idée que tout ce qui est "sécurisé" a toujours été fait chez eux....donc comme d'hab pas question de rien changer dans aucun domaine !!
La production du fameux passeport bio a donc été repoussée....et si j'en crois les déclarations d'un Ministre mi-janvier, sera effective en mai 06, par l'imprimerie nationale, puisque les syndicats ont obtenu gain de cause !
Et dire que nos futures cartes d'identité seront très bientôt du même genre !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bien entendu, un conflit syndical est venu se greffer là dessus, mais c est bien à l 'état de prévoir et d'anticiper sur les problèmes potentiels ON APPELLE CELA de la méthode, avouez qu au pays de Descartes, cela fait tâche. Quand au problème posé à nos députés -de droite -de gauche- du centre-(8 email) le réponse est unanime, c est la faute aux américains, soulignant ainsi la méconnaissance du problème. En bref, ils en savent moins que sur ce forum;
Ceci pour clore le débat.
comme notre ami Senmout j'adhere à 100%
et c'est si joliment dit !!!
Chelsea
et c'est si joliment dit !!!
Chelsea
Pendant 2 ans et demi aller à la découverte du pays et des gens dans le cadre d'un Congé Epargne Temps (congé payé)
Bon. C'est toujours de la faute de quelqu'un, des dirigeants ou des syndicats, selon la conscience sociale et sensibilité politique de chacun. Moi je suis plutôt fumasse de devoir avoir un passeport à données biométriques, imposé par les USA --il fallait bien que quelqu'un commence. Bientôt accompagné d'une carte nationale d’identité électronique, tiens, dès cette année, en France. Ben oui, faut suivre le progrès, là, tout ça c'est pour notre sécurité et notre confort, n'est-ce pas ?
Voici un article qui date de août 2005 :
http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2005/08/DUCLOS/
Enjoy it
Ia Orana, je viens m'ajouter à votre discussion sur les passeports biométriques, j'ai aussi un souci de taille, je suis résidente en Polynésie et transite par les USA pour rentrer en France, je dois accoucher le 15 juin prochain en France et rentrer en Polynésie avec mon bébé le 5 juillet, le souci est pour ce bébé qui n'a pas de passeport, (le mien est ok pour les USA)
la question est : dois-je lui faire faire eun passeport où aurais-je une autre sulution, style laissé passer, sachant que je transit par les USA....Super compliqué !
Aux dernières news je devrais passer par Tokyo pour simplifier la chose, 24h de vol + transit....
Merci
Gwen de Bora Bora
Tu peux essayer de te renseigner auprès de l'ambassade des USA, je ne sais pas quoi te dire d'autre...
En tout cas, bon courage.
marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Bonjour,
j'ai téléphoné vendredi dernier à la préfecture à Paris. on m'a dit que les passeports biométriques seront disponible pour le public début juin et de rappeler le 20 mars, date à laquelle le personnel aura été brieffé sur les documents à fournir etc...
Je n'ai pas bien compris la discussion ci-dessous, est-ce qu'il y a eu un nouveau blocage avec l'imprimerie nationale depuis ?
j'ai téléphoné vendredi dernier à la préfecture à Paris. on m'a dit que les passeports biométriques seront disponible pour le public début juin et de rappeler le 20 mars, date à laquelle le personnel aura été brieffé sur les documents à fournir etc...
Je n'ai pas bien compris la discussion ci-dessous, est-ce qu'il y a eu un nouveau blocage avec l'imprimerie nationale depuis ?
Savane74
d'après ce que je sais, même pour un nouveau né, il faudrait un passeport ou alors un visa.
On peut espérer que les administratif soient attendris par un tout petit bébé, celà fonctionne bien chez les singes ! (J'ai lu que les nouveaux nés singes avaient un faciès plus clair ce qui a pour conséquence de provoquer un sentiment de protection chez les mâles adutes) Enfin naturellement, aucun lien entre un douanier américain et un singe !!!!
On peut espérer que les administratif soient attendris par un tout petit bébé, celà fonctionne bien chez les singes ! (J'ai lu que les nouveaux nés singes avaient un faciès plus clair ce qui a pour conséquence de provoquer un sentiment de protection chez les mâles adutes) Enfin naturellement, aucun lien entre un douanier américain et un singe !!!!
Savane74
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That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie