Travailler à Los Angeles
by Sammm
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je vien de finir mes études et je compte partir quelque temps a los angeles pour travailler et perfectionner mon anglais. je pense partir fin sptembre.
Pour un voyage de moin de 3mois le visa n'est pas obligatoire?
Si je pars en temps que touriste (pour un sejour de moin de 3mois), puis-je sur place trouver un employeur qui me demendera mon visa de travaille pour augmenter la durée de mon sejour?
Bonjour,
La duree permise aus USA sans visa (Visa Waiver) est de 90 jours. Pendant ces 90 jours tu n'as pas le droit de travailler, chercher du travail, ni etudier, tu as juste le droit de faire du tourisme. Il n'y a aucun moyen de prolonger la dure d'un Visa Waiver et au bout de 90 jours tu dois imperativement repartir dans ton pays (sauf en cas de mariage avec un americain, mais la c'est autre chose).
Si tu cherche du travail en tant que touriste, tu auras tres peu de chances de trouver car la premiere chose que l'on te demande ici, c'est ton permis de travail. Pour qu'un employeur te sponsorise afin d'obtenir un visa de travail c'est tres complique. En premier lieu, il doit prouver a l"ANPE locale que tu lui es indispensable et qu'aucun americain ne peut occuper la place. Si cette demande est acceptee, il doit attendre de recevoir une autorisation d'embaucher un etranger. Et a partir de ce moment il peut lancer la demande de visa de travail. Tout cela prend du temps et de l'argent et autant te dire que si tu n'as pas des qualifications extraordinaires tu peux chercher une autre solution...
Tu peux peut etre te renseigner sur les possibilite de travails saisoniers, comme Disney ou autre qui proposent l'obtention d'un visa J. Mais ca tu ne peux le faire qu'en etant en France, jamais a partir des USA puisque c'est interdit d'y aller en touriste et chercher un emploi.
Le solution de partir en tant que touriste et chercher du travail est non seulement interdite mais surtout deconseillee si tu ne veux pas risque de te retrouver dans une prison locale, a payer une tres grosse amande, etre deporte a tes frais bie sur, mais aussi etre interdit des USA pour une duree indefinie (certainement definitive).
Cette solution est aussi deconseille pour des questions d'assurances, si tu trouve un job (non declare, mal paye et exploite bien sur) pense tu etre assure? Certainement pas, et si il t'arrive un probleme d'ordre medical sur ton lieu de travail, sache qu'une simple visite chez un medecin coute pas moins de 150$ (immagine si tu te casse un bras ou pire...).
Bref, si tu veux partir aux USA pour travailler et perfectioner ton anglais, je te conseille de passer par la voie legale afin de ne pas te mettre dans une tres mauvaise situation.
Bonne chance!
La duree permise aus USA sans visa (Visa Waiver) est de 90 jours. Pendant ces 90 jours tu n'as pas le droit de travailler, chercher du travail, ni etudier, tu as juste le droit de faire du tourisme. Il n'y a aucun moyen de prolonger la dure d'un Visa Waiver et au bout de 90 jours tu dois imperativement repartir dans ton pays (sauf en cas de mariage avec un americain, mais la c'est autre chose).
Si tu cherche du travail en tant que touriste, tu auras tres peu de chances de trouver car la premiere chose que l'on te demande ici, c'est ton permis de travail. Pour qu'un employeur te sponsorise afin d'obtenir un visa de travail c'est tres complique. En premier lieu, il doit prouver a l"ANPE locale que tu lui es indispensable et qu'aucun americain ne peut occuper la place. Si cette demande est acceptee, il doit attendre de recevoir une autorisation d'embaucher un etranger. Et a partir de ce moment il peut lancer la demande de visa de travail. Tout cela prend du temps et de l'argent et autant te dire que si tu n'as pas des qualifications extraordinaires tu peux chercher une autre solution...
Tu peux peut etre te renseigner sur les possibilite de travails saisoniers, comme Disney ou autre qui proposent l'obtention d'un visa J. Mais ca tu ne peux le faire qu'en etant en France, jamais a partir des USA puisque c'est interdit d'y aller en touriste et chercher un emploi.
Le solution de partir en tant que touriste et chercher du travail est non seulement interdite mais surtout deconseillee si tu ne veux pas risque de te retrouver dans une prison locale, a payer une tres grosse amande, etre deporte a tes frais bie sur, mais aussi etre interdit des USA pour une duree indefinie (certainement definitive).
Cette solution est aussi deconseille pour des questions d'assurances, si tu trouve un job (non declare, mal paye et exploite bien sur) pense tu etre assure? Certainement pas, et si il t'arrive un probleme d'ordre medical sur ton lieu de travail, sache qu'une simple visite chez un medecin coute pas moins de 150$ (immagine si tu te casse un bras ou pire...).
Bref, si tu veux partir aux USA pour travailler et perfectioner ton anglais, je te conseille de passer par la voie legale afin de ne pas te mettre dans une tres mauvaise situation.
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salut,
J ai vu ton message, toi aussi tu veux partir aux Etats Unis, mais tu n as pas d employeur, c est un peu ce qui m arrive, j habite à Parsi et j aimerais y aller mais c est vrai que c est plus simple d avoir la carte verte, car sans, les employeurs doivent payer pour notre sponsor de visa d après ce qu on m a dit, et ils n aiment pas trop ça, mais recontacte moi et nous pourrons parler de notre projet? Sabrina
J ai vu ton message, toi aussi tu veux partir aux Etats Unis, mais tu n as pas d employeur, c est un peu ce qui m arrive, j habite à Parsi et j aimerais y aller mais c est vrai que c est plus simple d avoir la carte verte, car sans, les employeurs doivent payer pour notre sponsor de visa d après ce qu on m a dit, et ils n aiment pas trop ça, mais recontacte moi et nous pourrons parler de notre projet? Sabrina
Pendant ces 90 jours tu n'as pas le droit de travailler, chercher du travail, ni etudier, tu as juste le droit de faire du tourisme.
Il faut mettre un petit bémol. On n'a pas le droit d'entrer comme touriste pour venir travailler, mais il n'est pas absolument interdit d'aller rencontrer des employeurs potentiels et des entreprises! Exemple: poser des questions, distribuer des CV, même faire des entrevues...Tant et aussi longtemps qu'on accepte aucune offre d'emploi, il n'y a rien d'illégal à se chercher un emploi (c'est juste du "verbal").
Il faut être réaliste: chercher un emploi à distance est très difficile! Vaut mieux être sur place. Et pour obtenir un visa il faut une offre d'emploi. Ça, les Américains le savent.
L'important c'est de ne pas commencer, ne jamais commencer à bosser sans permis délivré (et le permis de travail s'obtient en étant à l'extérieur des Etats-Unis).
D'autres activités font aussi parti de la catégorie tourisme: assister à des conventions, prendre des leçons de courtes durées (moins de 3 mois), etc.
Tant et aussi longtemps que tu quittes après la période autorisée (3 mois pour la plupart des ressortissants étrangers) et que tu commences tes démarches pour obtenir tes papiers à l'extérieur des Etats-Unis, rien ne t'empêche de te chercher des contacts là-bas. Mais faut rien signer!
Il faut mettre un petit bémol. On n'a pas le droit d'entrer comme touriste pour venir travailler, mais il n'est pas absolument interdit d'aller rencontrer des employeurs potentiels et des entreprises! Exemple: poser des questions, distribuer des CV, même faire des entrevues...Tant et aussi longtemps qu'on accepte aucune offre d'emploi, il n'y a rien d'illégal à se chercher un emploi (c'est juste du "verbal").
Il faut être réaliste: chercher un emploi à distance est très difficile! Vaut mieux être sur place. Et pour obtenir un visa il faut une offre d'emploi. Ça, les Américains le savent.
L'important c'est de ne pas commencer, ne jamais commencer à bosser sans permis délivré (et le permis de travail s'obtient en étant à l'extérieur des Etats-Unis).
D'autres activités font aussi parti de la catégorie tourisme: assister à des conventions, prendre des leçons de courtes durées (moins de 3 mois), etc.
Tant et aussi longtemps que tu quittes après la période autorisée (3 mois pour la plupart des ressortissants étrangers) et que tu commences tes démarches pour obtenir tes papiers à l'extérieur des Etats-Unis, rien ne t'empêche de te chercher des contacts là-bas. Mais faut rien signer!
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Bonjour,
Officieusement il est possible de chercher du travail sous Visa Waiver, officielement c'est interdit. La raison d'un voyage sous Visa Waiver ne doit etre exclusivement que pour faire du tourisme et non pas postuler pour un emploi, meme si on n'a pas l'intention de travailler sans visa.
Bien qu'il soit plus facile de trouver un employeur sur place, je pense que si le douanier trouve des CV rediges en anglais dans les bagages du voyageurs il aura un reel doute sur ses intentions et lui refusera certainement l'entree du pays.
On peut en effet assister a des conventions et suivre des cours mais juste quelques heures par semaine (j'ai oublie le nombre exacte mais il me semble que c'est 15h).
Extrait de http://www.easybourse.com/Website/site/fra_accueil_etudiants_international_travailleraletranger_etatsunis_etatsunis1.php
Quelles que soient les raisons de votre séjour aux Etats-Unis, vous aurez besoin d’un visa, sauf pour un séjour touristique ou d’affaires de moins de trois mois. Le « Visa Waiver Pilot Program » (VWPP) permet aux Français de solliciter l'admission sur le territoire américain pour un tel séjour. Mais sachez alors qu’il vous sera interdit de chercher du travail.
Officieusement il est possible de chercher du travail sous Visa Waiver, officielement c'est interdit. La raison d'un voyage sous Visa Waiver ne doit etre exclusivement que pour faire du tourisme et non pas postuler pour un emploi, meme si on n'a pas l'intention de travailler sans visa.
Bien qu'il soit plus facile de trouver un employeur sur place, je pense que si le douanier trouve des CV rediges en anglais dans les bagages du voyageurs il aura un reel doute sur ses intentions et lui refusera certainement l'entree du pays.
On peut en effet assister a des conventions et suivre des cours mais juste quelques heures par semaine (j'ai oublie le nombre exacte mais il me semble que c'est 15h).
Extrait de http://www.easybourse.com/Website/site/fra_accueil_etudiants_international_travailleraletranger_etatsunis_etatsunis1.php
Quelles que soient les raisons de votre séjour aux Etats-Unis, vous aurez besoin d’un visa, sauf pour un séjour touristique ou d’affaires de moins de trois mois. Le « Visa Waiver Pilot Program » (VWPP) permet aux Français de solliciter l'admission sur le territoire américain pour un tel séjour. Mais sachez alors qu’il vous sera interdit de chercher du travail.
Audrey
Bien qu'il soit plus facile de trouver un employeur sur place, je pense que si le douanier trouve des CV rediges en anglais dans les bagages du voyageurs il aura un reel doute sur ses intentions et lui refusera certainement l'entree du pays.
J'ai réussi à obtenir quelques infos à ce sujet:
les Canadiens ont bel et bien le droit de chercher du travail avec un statut de touriste. Le Canada et les États-Unis ayant un accord de libre-échange (ALENA), il est permis pour un Canadien de se rendre sur le territoire américain afin de solliciter des employeurs (CV, entrevues, créer des contacts) en autant qu'il n'accepte aucun emploi sans avoir obtenu une autorisation de travail au préalable.
Pour cela, il doit faire ses démarches à l'extérieur des États-Unis. À l'exception du visa TN qui lui, s'obtient directement au passage à l'immigration (on doit dire à l'officier qu'on a besoin du visa pour travailler et lui présenter un diplôme et une lettre d'embauche d'un employeur américain. Le visa de travail TN est ensuite délivré sur place). Cette démarche ne s'applique pas aux autres types de visas comme H1B par exemple. Il faut l'obtenir avant le passage aux contrôles frontaliers.
Voilà c'est plus clair maintenant.
J'ai réussi à obtenir quelques infos à ce sujet:
les Canadiens ont bel et bien le droit de chercher du travail avec un statut de touriste. Le Canada et les États-Unis ayant un accord de libre-échange (ALENA), il est permis pour un Canadien de se rendre sur le territoire américain afin de solliciter des employeurs (CV, entrevues, créer des contacts) en autant qu'il n'accepte aucun emploi sans avoir obtenu une autorisation de travail au préalable.
Pour cela, il doit faire ses démarches à l'extérieur des États-Unis. À l'exception du visa TN qui lui, s'obtient directement au passage à l'immigration (on doit dire à l'officier qu'on a besoin du visa pour travailler et lui présenter un diplôme et une lettre d'embauche d'un employeur américain. Le visa de travail TN est ensuite délivré sur place). Cette démarche ne s'applique pas aux autres types de visas comme H1B par exemple. Il faut l'obtenir avant le passage aux contrôles frontaliers.
Voilà c'est plus clair maintenant.
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En fait je parlais juste du cas de la personne qui a pose la question et qui est francais.
En ce qui concerne les Canadiens, je n'en sais rien mais je te crois volontier quand tu dis que les regles ne sont pas les memes et qu'ils peuvent chercher du travail avec un statut de touriste 😉.
Malheureusement pour nous c'est bien plus complique...
En ce qui concerne les Canadiens, je n'en sais rien mais je te crois volontier quand tu dis que les regles ne sont pas les memes et qu'ils peuvent chercher du travail avec un statut de touriste 😉.
Malheureusement pour nous c'est bien plus complique...
Audrey
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Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
I'm looking for an au pair who'd like to come to Bournemouth in the south of England, and I'd love to know what the best websites are to find one, please.
Hi everyone,
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Hi,
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^