Forêt équatoriale à pied
by Njitap
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bien oui, il n'y a pas d'autre choix, à part marcher.
N'ayez crainte vos amis pisteurs, les pygmés, vous montreront le chemin parmis un nombre incalculable d'éspèces.
La forêt est immense et plein de merveille, connaissez-vous?😮
Au sud pays fang, Gabon... ll faut y aller aussi de nuit, camper et attendre la bonne heure quand les animaux sortent de leur coin pour chasser manger. Avant ça quasi pas un bruit, mais l'étrange impression d'etre observé de par derrière le mur de végétation qui entoure... les yeux brillants des animaux dans la lumière de la lampe frontale.Les biches cochons tétanisées sur place par la lumière. Les bouses fraiches d'assalas(petits éléphants de foret) faisant penser qu'ils sont peut etre encore tout près, attention, ne pas les déranger...Dans un layon étroit voilà le mur végétal qui te frole et qui se met à bouger, mais qu'est ce que c'est pas un assala j'espère!! Une paires d 'yeux énormes dans la lampe elle doit etre grosse la bete là dans l'arbre...et non un tout petit singe que je sais plus le nom avec des doigts tout fins... Et le marigot ? Encore un endroit étrange la nuit, repaire de sangsues et autres charmantes bêtes dont on fait des sacs et dont la chaire est très bonne bien préparée. Les bandes de singes sautant d'arbre en arbre. Les calaos, touracos, colibris et oiseaux de toutes sortes. Les lianes dans lesquellles on peut trouver de l'eau, les arbres immenses, et plantes de toutes sortes....Foret envoutante....
Choucarde
Ah! Ouai, c'est ça ! La photo elle fait trop de bien .
Mais la forët dont je parle se trouve plus près de Ouesso, ta description est trop bonne c'est cela . Combieb de temps est tu resté?
Ma adjona hein ? yo ozali ici? yo kanga bien ?
Donc moi c'était pas du tout dans ce coin là, c'était dans le nord gabon pas loin du camer mais c'est sûr ça y ressemble surement. Dans le nord gabon on est resté 2 ans, 1 an Bitam et 1 an Oyem, à peu près .
Un jour on nous a montré un petit cimetière en pleine brousse mais qd meme entretenu (respect aux esprits), il datait de la guerre 14 18, à l'époque l'allemagne se battait dans ce coin pour cette partie de terre qu'on appelait le nouveau Cameroun et qui appartenait à l'Allemagne. Dans le cimetière beaucoup de tirailleurs sénégalais. J'ai des photos de ce cimetière, "la bataille de Mimbeng". En contrebas de la route qui était en construction il y avait encore qqs restes d'auto mitrailleuses ou autres mangées par la foret! Découverte surprenante dans ce coin ! Plein de belles ballades, vraiment ça vaut le coup la foret! Mais pas tout seul ou alors avec une très grande habitude de repérages et autres. En général on prenait un gars au village, un chasseur en général. Les Equatos Guinéens sont très bons en foret aussi, il y en avait un qui mimait des cris de singes ou d'oiseaux, surprenant!
Choucarde
Le boulou, joli dialect, nassara.
Je suis Un bon Camer, wa wok?
Mbolo,
Moi la nassara je ne connais pas le boulou pour parler en langue comme ça...wa wok... 😉
Mais dis moi et si tu nous parlais un peu de la foret, des pygmées, de ton coin là bas pret de Ouesso ? ça me ferait plaisir à moi en tous cas et je suis sure à d'autres aussi !
A + 😎
Moi la nassara je ne connais pas le boulou pour parler en langue comme ça...wa wok... 😉
Mais dis moi et si tu nous parlais un peu de la foret, des pygmées, de ton coin là bas pret de Ouesso ? ça me ferait plaisir à moi en tous cas et je suis sure à d'autres aussi !
A + 😎
Choucarde
Choucarde,
La forêt te donne la vrai sensation de vivre comme dans un poumon.
Et je l'aime tout ce vert. En effet je n'habitais pas très loin de Ouesso, et j'avais l'occasion d'entendre parler le Baka, Le Lingala, et d'autres dialects plus connus, importé par les grands.
Eh bien, l'endroit n'était pas si peace que cela, et pas si désert: Braconniers, chercheurs d'or, industriels du bois, écologistes, scientifiques, nous n'étions pas si seul que cela.
Les pygmés sont de fabuleux chasseurs, pisteurs, et de fabuleux fêtards.
Efin cela donnais quoi !!!!!!!!!!
Il parait qu'au Gabon le braconnage est de plus en plus d'actualité aussi mais je ne sais dans quelles zones. je veux dire le braconnage fait pas des gens de la ville pour alimenter les marchés et les frigos de grands messieurs pas les villageois pour qui biensûr celà reste un moyen de se nourrir comme depuis toujours.
Oui c'est un vrai poumon tu as le bon mot!
Les dialectes importés par les grands...les grands que veux tu dire, est une expression des pygméesk, ou les grands sont ils des populations de gens grands et arrivés plus récemment dans la région comme les fangs par exemple ?
Les dialectes importés par les grands...les grands que veux tu dire, est une expression des pygméesk, ou les grands sont ils des populations de gens grands et arrivés plus récemment dans la région comme les fangs par exemple ?
Choucarde
Quand les pygmés parlent de grands, c'est tout ceux qui ne sont pas pygmés.
J'ai vécu quelque temps avec eux, ils sont fantastiques, en ce moment même au Congo, ils sont exhibés comme des bêtes de foire, pour un évènement autour de la musique, et les autorités n'ont rien trouvé de mieux que de les parker au Zoo, oui au Zoo.
Alors ? Foutez leur la paix, laissez les respirer, et allez vivre avec eux, découvrir leur nourriture, leur vie tout en échangeant une partie de la vôtre, sans mensonges aucun.
Ils leur ont tué leur dialect, "Le Baka" est remplacé petit à petit par le lingala, le français (Eh! oui, ils sont au moins bilingues, c'est pas tout le monde qui peut le dire ça !!!).
Casser leur forêt, après avoir été exploité par des chercheurs d'or, des braconniers, des esclavagistes, des vedettes du show biz, ou politique, se rendent là-bas pour se faire prendre en photo avec eux, dommage !
Allez-y mais seuls, seuls face vos hôtes, ne vous inquiétez pas il ne mange pas de chair humaine (quoique !), mais se taillaient les dents en pointe pour manger de la viande fraîche.
Quand aux braconniers, ils font se qui semble être le mieux pour la gestion de leur forêt, parce que rappelons tout de même que c'est leur forêt ! Oui, certe ils gagne de l'argent avec le braconnage, mais pour réellement s'intérèsser à la gestion d'une zone cynégétique, il faudrait pouvoir réunir tout le monde: W.W.F, G.T.Z, Les eaux et forêt Camerounaise, les autorités locales, les forces de l'ordre, les guides de chasse, et j'en passe, alors avant d'avoir ou faire cela, c'est l'anarchie, les parcs nationaux sont des réserves à ..........Braconniers, la frontière perméable, ne peut empêcher les Congolais de s'introduire au Cameroun, pour y prélever des animaux, il faudrait beaucoup de volonté de la part du Gouvernement et d'argent, pour la volonté à ce niveau tout le monde s'en fout, et pour l'arzent, y en a pas !!!!!
Merci des précisions, en effet je sais par contre comment ils sont perçus par beaucoup chez les "grands"! Triste!
LesFangs aussi autrefois se taillaient les dents en pointes, par pour la chair humaine non plus. La chair humaine c'est après le décès d'une personne renommée pour sa force ou son intelligence alors on mange un ptit morceaux lors d' une cérémonie, rien à voir avec le cannibalisme, je ne sais si celà se pratique toujours chez eux
Je pense que tu as sans doute raison pour les parcs nationaux et pourquoi ils ne portent souvent que le nom. Et l'arzent chef ?! Quand y en a comment est il utilisé ?! 😉🤪
Dis moi comment tu fais quand tu vas en foret dans cette zone, étais tu informé par avance s'il y a des braconniers ou pas, quel matériel emportais tu (j'imagine assez simple), passais tu quelques jours en foret ? A moins que tu es parti à chaque fois avec les pygmées? Rappelle moi si tu connais le nom des fourmis à miel, dont je crois les pygmées aussi raffolent?
Dis moi comment tu fais quand tu vas en foret dans cette zone, étais tu informé par avance s'il y a des braconniers ou pas, quel matériel emportais tu (j'imagine assez simple), passais tu quelques jours en foret ? A moins que tu es parti à chaque fois avec les pygmées? Rappelle moi si tu connais le nom des fourmis à miel, dont je crois les pygmées aussi raffolent?
Choucarde
🙂 yo choucarde,
pour les infos ce n'est pas très dur à obtenir, l'arzent. Ensuite j'avais tout l'équipement nécéssaire au Sylvionaute: boussole, carte, G.P.S, ma carabine de chasse. J'ai dormis en forêt, et c'était magique, mais tu l'as déjà expliqué (les yeux des animaux dans la nuit....). Bien entendu je ne suis jamais sortit sans les pygmés, parce que leur compagnie était indispensable au morale, et que de plus c'était leur coin. Et puis se passer de mes ami pygmés c'était un luxe que je ne permettais pas ! Pour le nom des fourmis à miel, je ne sais pas, je connais la "pa m'bo" bien violente, et je sais aussi que quand les bakas sentaient le miel plus rien n'existait.
pour les infos ce n'est pas très dur à obtenir, l'arzent. Ensuite j'avais tout l'équipement nécéssaire au Sylvionaute: boussole, carte, G.P.S, ma carabine de chasse. J'ai dormis en forêt, et c'était magique, mais tu l'as déjà expliqué (les yeux des animaux dans la nuit....). Bien entendu je ne suis jamais sortit sans les pygmés, parce que leur compagnie était indispensable au morale, et que de plus c'était leur coin. Et puis se passer de mes ami pygmés c'était un luxe que je ne permettais pas ! Pour le nom des fourmis à miel, je ne sais pas, je connais la "pa m'bo" bien violente, et je sais aussi que quand les bakas sentaient le miel plus rien n'existait.
Yo!
Nous à l'époque pas de GPS, mais des villageois de confiance qui connaissaient bien leur foret, l'habitude des techniques de repérages et de "survie" de Mr ! Et puis lampes, carabine, machettes, boussole aussi...
On n'à jamais rencontré de pygmées, dommage ou peut etre qu'ils nous ont apperçu mais pas voulu, mais je crois qu'ils sont plus vers Minvoul donc à l'Est d'Oyem plus loin dans la foret, Et sinon aussi plus bas vers Mékambo donc pas loin là du Congo, près de la région Sangha...Il y en a aussi dans d'autres coins du Gabon. Leurs langues aussi sont en danger.
Nous à l'époque pas de GPS, mais des villageois de confiance qui connaissaient bien leur foret, l'habitude des techniques de repérages et de "survie" de Mr ! Et puis lampes, carabine, machettes, boussole aussi...
On n'à jamais rencontré de pygmées, dommage ou peut etre qu'ils nous ont apperçu mais pas voulu, mais je crois qu'ils sont plus vers Minvoul donc à l'Est d'Oyem plus loin dans la foret, Et sinon aussi plus bas vers Mékambo donc pas loin là du Congo, près de la région Sangha...Il y en a aussi dans d'autres coins du Gabon. Leurs langues aussi sont en danger.
Choucarde
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Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.

