J'envisage de faire une randonnée itinérante dans les Alpes avec mon fils de 9 ans fin août prochain.
Nous avons une semaine à disposition et nous sommes relativement sportifs.
Nous randonnons de temps en temps dans le Mercantour mais de manière occasionnelle.
En faisant un recherche assez rapide, il me semble que le Tour des Glaciers de Vanoise serait assez approprié (faune abondante, présence des glaciers, étapes relativement raisonnables en difficulté).
L'idée serait d'aller dans les refuges afin d'éviter des sacs trop lourds.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce faisable avec un enfant ?
Avez-vous d'autres suggestions ?
D'avance merci pour votre aide.
La Vanoise se prête bien à la rando familiale même en itinérant. Il y a pas mal de refuges ou de gîtes. Le Tour des glaciers est sympa. Tu peux voir ici un circuit intégral en 20 étapes explorant une grande partie du massif y compris quelques recoins confidentiels mais les incontournables sont présentés. Ainsi tu pourras faire ton choix.
Idée 1 :
J1 : Pralognan - La Valette
J2 : La Valette - L'Orgère
J3 : L'Orgère - Col de la Masse - A/R Rateau d'Aussois (option mais exceptionnel panorama) - Refuge Dent Parrachée
J4 : Refuge Dent Parrachée - Refuge de l'Arpont
J5 : Arpont - Entre deux Eaux
J6 : Entre deux Eaux - Refuge Col de la Vanoise
J7 : Refuge Col de la Vanoise - Vallon de l'Arcelin - Pralognan
Idée 2 :
J1 : Tignes - Col Sachette - Plan du Lac
J2 : Plan du Lac - Grassaz - Chalet des gardes - Col du Palet
J3 : Col du Palet - Tignes Claret - Refuge de Leisse
J4 : Leisse - Plan du Lac
J5 : Plan du Lac - Refuge de Femma
J6 : Femma - Col Rocheure - Fond des Fours
J7 : Fond des Fours - Val d'Isere - Tignes par la Daille.
Pierre
Trekkings hors des sentiers battus (Asie, Afrique et Europe) sur mon site web : http://www.martinpierre.fr
C'est une bonne idée, bien adapté. Cependant, il te faut savoir que :
- c'est sans doute le circuit où il y a le plus de monde en Vanoise
- Tôt en saison, il peut rester un peu de neige. Fin août, pas de problème, mais si vous décalez la date à début juillet, renseignez vous avant.
J1 : Pralognan - La Valette
J2 : La Valette - L'Orgère
J3 : L'Orgère - Col de la Masse - A/R Rateau d'Aussois (option mais exceptionnel panorama) - Refuge Dent Parrachée
Je trouve ces étapes longues avec un enfant. Surtout J2 et J3.
Je pense même que J3 est difficile avec un enfant. La montée au col de la masse depuis l'Orgère est une bavante, à cause du terrain glissant dasn le haut. L'aller retour au Rateau d'Aussois est raisonnablement difficile, et peut être ludique ou impressionnant selon l'expérience de l'enfant.
Par contre, c'est un coin où on est sur de voir des bouquetins.
La remontée au refuge de la Dent Parachée rajoute de la dénivellée en fin de circuit, alors qu'on trouve des refuges plus proches, mieux placés, et sympas.
De même, pour J7, le vallon de l'Arcelin peut être délicat et surtout fatiguant avec un enfant : beaucoup de grands pas dans la montée, arrivée au col un peu délicate.
Bonjour,
La Vanoise (que je connais bien, été comme hiver) est une bonne idée : avec ou (sans) enfants! 😉
J'ai souvent fait des randos avec les miens, qui avaient entre 10 et 15 ans.
Mais faire La Valette -> l'Orgère dans la journée.... Euuh! je n'aurais jamais osé avec mes gamins qui sont pourtant très sportifs! A moins de descendre direct sur les Prioux et de suivre le Doron ; mais dans ce cas, autant s'arrêter au refuge de Péclet Polset.... Mais il est préférable de suivre le sentier balcon, et de descendre au bas de la moraine du glacier du Genepy, une sente qui passe par l'alpage de Ritord (fromages)...
Autre chose aussi, que j'ai signalé sur un autre post! Le refuge de l'Arpont va être en travaux jusqu'en 2013.... Sa capacité d'accueil de 90 (et quelques...) places sera réduite, voire fermée à certaines periodes! Il est regrettable que localement personne n'en parle!...
A part çà, comme on le dit souvent, la Vanoise draine beaucoup de monde (il n'y a pas que là!) : oui mais ce n'est pas nouveau! Il y a 25 ou 30 ans on couchait souvent 40 personnes dans un refuge de 30!
Aujourd'hui c'est interdit! Règlementations, normes, etc.... 🤪
Il faut réserver à l'avance ; cela dénature la randonnée en général et l'esprit montagnard en particulier... mais c'est un autre débat!
Merci à tous pour les conseils déjà précieux.
Concernant le tour classique, que pensez-vous de la variante proposée sur le site du parc national ?
Elle m'arrangerait dans le sens où elle part de la Haute-Maurienne, plus courte d'accès par la route pour nous qui venons de Nice (passage par l'Italie).
Jour 1 : Refuge Porte de l'Orgère - Refuge Péclet-Polset
Jour 2 : Refuge Péclet-Polset - Refuge Valette
Jour 3 : Refuge Valette - Refuge Col Vanoise
Jour 4 : Refuge Col Vanoise - Refuge Arpont
Jour 5 : Refuge Arpont - un des refuges du secteur Plan d'Amont
Jour 6 : un des refuges du secteur Plan d'Amont - Refuge Porte de l'Orgère
Que pensez-vous des étapes au niveau de la difficulté ?
Quel refuge choisiriez-vous dans le secteur Plan d'Amont ?
Vois ton beaucoup d'animaux sur ce tour, à cette époque (nous sommes très habitués à en voir dans le Mercantour) ?
Merci d'avance.
Tu peux ajouter la Pointe de l'Observatoire en aller retour depuis Plan d'Amont, si tu peux disposer d'une journée supplémentaire.
Refuges de Plan d'Amont : j'aime beaucoup Plan sec : jolis chalets, fleuri, belle vue, bon accueil, pas cher.
Mais si tu vas à la Pointe de l'Observatoire, peut être le refuge au fond du vallon (l'Observatoire ?) sera t il mieux placé. Accueillant, et on y mange bien.
J3 : si tu passes par Pralognan, tu pourras ravitailler. Sinon, par les cirques, c'est plus joli, mais la descente est délicate en partie.
Pour voir des animaux, il y a souvent :
- dans les cirques J3 (Chamois ==> en fin d'après midi)
- vers le col de Chavière (bouquetins)
- vers la pointe de l'observatoire (bouquetins).
Des marmottes de partout.
Sinon, J1, si vous comptez dormir au refuge de l'Orgère et partir le lendemain, je vous signale qu'il y a un autre refuge un peu plus bas, à 10 minutes à pieds, très sympa et moins "usine" que l'Orgère.
Depuis Péclet Polset, cela vaut le coup d'aller voir les lacs derière le refuge (15 minutes).
J2 : tu peux passer à flanc plutôt que par le sentier classique en fond de vallon, comme le suggère Jean Claude : plus beau, avec des animaux, mais plus long.
J0 : si vous utiliser la première journée pour venir et que vous n'avez pas prévu de marcher, la visite de la fromagerie de lanslebourg intéressera sans doute les enfants.
Merci beaucoup pour ces nouvelles précisions.
Je crois que j'ai tout ce qu'il me faut maintenant.
Je vais réserver les refuges et il ne restera plus qu'à crapahuter !
Bonjour,
Je n'ai ps grand chose à rajouter... à part que le refuge un peu plus bas que l'Orgère c'est "l'Aiguille Doran", et le refuge (l'observatoire 😉) dans le fond du vallon d'Aussois, c'est le refuge du Fond d'Aussois, au pied de la montée au col....
Au dessus du Plan d'Amont il y a 3 refuges très proches :
Plan sec, la Fournache, et sur une butte, le refuge de la Dent Parrachée.
Hé hé, je suis aussi un inconditionnel du refuge Aiguille Doran. Super sympa, magnifique, pas cher et on y mange royalement.
J'aime bien aussi la Fournache.
Un petit bémol de ma part pour un enfant sur le parcours Valette-Felix-Faure : la fin de la descente du col du Grand Marchet est assez aérienne. Je ne l'ai faite qu'en montant mais il faut déjà y mettre les mains alors la descente...mais c'est un endroit qu'on n'oublie pas.
Sinon, ce tour me semble très bien et .....tu verras, on y a tous droit...tu y reviendras
bonne balade
Bleimor
Je vais donc porter mon choix sur le refuge de l'aiguille Doran pour le départ et l'arrivée de notre boucle.
Mais maintenant que le parcours est bouclé, se pose la question de la météo...
J'imagine que personne ne pourra me donner la météo prévue pour fin août mais peut-être quelqu'un pourra-t'il m'aiguiller sur ce qu'il faudra prévoir comme équipements si jamais il venait à faire froid :
- Sac de couchage ou sac à viande en comptant sur les couvertures des refuges ?
- Équipements contre le froid éventuel dans la journée ?
Merci par avance.
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Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?