Inde du Sud comme premier voyage, février 2012
by An5
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Notre projet, environ 6 semaines en Inde du sud. J'ai déjà beaucoup parcouru le forum, le GR et le LP. J'ai bcp de mal à me décider pour notre périple. Nous sommes intéressés par la nature, la manière de vivre des gens que nous espérons rencontrer. Nous ne voulons pas d'un programme trop chargé et surtout nous voulons pouvoir nous arrêter quand nous nous sentons bien.
Notre budget n'est pas illimité (30€ par jour?) mais nous tenons quand même à éviter les endroits douteux, nous sommes un couple autour de 60 ans.
J'ai déjà retenu Mysore, Hampi, les backwaters, le toy train... Mais toujours rien décidé à commencer par notre aéroport d'arrivée!
Karnataka, kerala, tamil-nadu... Cela me paraît maintenant beaucoup trop ambitieux après les lectures que j'ai faites. Il faut choisir, c'est notre premier voyage en Inde!
En janvier février, y a t-il beaucoup de moustiques dans le kerala?
L'option voiture avec chauffeur est-elle vraiment à conseiller car je suppose qu'il faut alors avoir préparer son itinéraire précisément. Des amies l'ont pratiqué avec bonheur l'annèe dernière, elles partaient 3 semaines.
Atterrir où? Bombay est moins cher mais plus au nord... Madras détermine déjà la côte Est.
Je sais que ce n'est pas aux membres du forum à faire le travail mais voilà quelques petits coups de coeur ou expériences similaires m’aiderait un peu, beaucoup même.
Merci d'avance
bonjour,
une des meilleures solutions est kochy (cochin) pour votre départ en inde du sud, petite ville, petit aéroport et les gens sont beaucoup plus tranquille à côté des mégapoles (munbay ou dheli)
pas mal de compagnies arabes desservent cette ville avec des prix abordables.
je pense qu'une voiture avec chauffeur est une bonne solution. vous décidez d'aller ou vous voulez, quand vous voulez, vous vous arrêtez quand vous le désirez.
Si vous en avez envie, allez lire mon voyage en janvier dernier (il était une fois en inde du sud)
si vous avez besoin de renseignements
une des meilleures solutions est kochy (cochin) pour votre départ en inde du sud, petite ville, petit aéroport et les gens sont beaucoup plus tranquille à côté des mégapoles (munbay ou dheli)
pas mal de compagnies arabes desservent cette ville avec des prix abordables.
je pense qu'une voiture avec chauffeur est une bonne solution. vous décidez d'aller ou vous voulez, quand vous voulez, vous vous arrêtez quand vous le désirez.
Si vous en avez envie, allez lire mon voyage en janvier dernier (il était une fois en inde du sud)
si vous avez besoin de renseignements
Merci pour cette réponse rapide. J'ai lu avec plaisir votre récit. (Vive les massages!)
Je vais me renseigner pour une arrivée à kochy. C'est sûr que je n'ai pas trop envie de rester dans une grande ville comme Bombay. Je cherche des endroits calmes pour nous adapter dans les premiers temps.
Manifestement les déplacements ne sont pas si facile, même avec un chauffeur. Vous avez pris contact avec lui comment? Que faut-il compter comme budget.
Je veux fuir les lieux touristiques comme les plages décrites dans le récit. Mais ouf, cela à l'air possible de s'en échapper.
Bien entendu les bonnes adresses m'intéressent🙂
Atterrir où? Bombay est moins cher mais plus au nord... Madras détermine déjà la côte Est.
En utilisant le moteur de recherche de ce forum, j'ai trouvé des vols Paris -> Chennai (Madras) à des tarifs disons raisonnables (à partir de 450€) en "presque direct" (escale sans changement d'avion à Delhi), avec Air India. Espérons que ça continue encore quelques mois, j'ai bien l'intention d'en profiter pour aller me promener dans le Sud de l'Inde. 🙂
En utilisant le moteur de recherche de ce forum, j'ai trouvé des vols Paris -> Chennai (Madras) à des tarifs disons raisonnables (à partir de 450€) en "presque direct" (escale sans changement d'avion à Delhi), avec Air India. Espérons que ça continue encore quelques mois, j'ai bien l'intention d'en profiter pour aller me promener dans le Sud de l'Inde. 🙂
Pour le moment la meilleur offre que j'ai trouvé c'est 710 € aller retour vers Bombay depuis Bruxelles. voir " partirOu". Le hic c'est que faire à Bombay quand on débarque d'une nuit blanche et aussi en pleine nuit pour eux et qu'on n'a pas encore de code sur la manière de se débrouiller là bas. Je cherche un lieu de repos et "d'acclimatation" non loin de Bombay, donc si quelqu'un(e) a une bonne idée. Merci d'avance. Arrivée autour du 11 janvier.
bonsoir,
Pour ton vol vers l'Inde cherche à plusieurs compagnies, tu peux tomber sur des promos intéressantes même vers Chennai ou Bangalore ( sud du karnataka). Mais de toute façon si tu atterris à Bombay et t'as pas envie d'y rester, tu peux prévoir d'enchainer avec un vol tôt le matin vers une ville du sud. T'as même pas besoin de sortir de l'aéroport, entre l'aéroport international et le domestique il y a une navette gratuite qui fonctionne même la nuit. Si tu aimes la nature prévois d'alller à Munnar et Bathery ( kerala) mais aussi Kodaikanal ( Tamil Nadu), peu connu des étrangers puis kabini dans le Karnataka. j'aime moi aussi la nature et j'ai parcouru ces régions plusieurs fois. par conte ce sont des régions où il n'y a pas de train et donc la voiture avec chauffeur est une bonne solution. C'est plus cher que les transports en commun mais très pratique, ça permet de s'arrêter quand on veut. C'est en tout cas rassurant en début de séjour le temps de se mettre dans le bain du pays, ensuite pour diminuer le coût de ton voyage tu peux continuer en transports en commun. Je ne sais pas si tu es intéressée par les monuments , mais faut quand même voir au moins un temple du Tamil nadu ! Si tu séjournes à Kochi j'ai des adresses d'homestay pas trop chères et bien sympa, je peux aussi te donner l'adresse d'un chauffeur. Pour la plupart de mes voyages en Inde c'est dans le Sud que j'ai séjourné et c'est vraiment super.
Pour ton vol vers l'Inde cherche à plusieurs compagnies, tu peux tomber sur des promos intéressantes même vers Chennai ou Bangalore ( sud du karnataka). Mais de toute façon si tu atterris à Bombay et t'as pas envie d'y rester, tu peux prévoir d'enchainer avec un vol tôt le matin vers une ville du sud. T'as même pas besoin de sortir de l'aéroport, entre l'aéroport international et le domestique il y a une navette gratuite qui fonctionne même la nuit. Si tu aimes la nature prévois d'alller à Munnar et Bathery ( kerala) mais aussi Kodaikanal ( Tamil Nadu), peu connu des étrangers puis kabini dans le Karnataka. j'aime moi aussi la nature et j'ai parcouru ces régions plusieurs fois. par conte ce sont des régions où il n'y a pas de train et donc la voiture avec chauffeur est une bonne solution. C'est plus cher que les transports en commun mais très pratique, ça permet de s'arrêter quand on veut. C'est en tout cas rassurant en début de séjour le temps de se mettre dans le bain du pays, ensuite pour diminuer le coût de ton voyage tu peux continuer en transports en commun. Je ne sais pas si tu es intéressée par les monuments , mais faut quand même voir au moins un temple du Tamil nadu ! Si tu séjournes à Kochi j'ai des adresses d'homestay pas trop chères et bien sympa, je peux aussi te donner l'adresse d'un chauffeur. Pour la plupart de mes voyages en Inde c'est dans le Sud que j'ai séjourné et c'est vraiment super.
J'ai répondu trop vite, je n'avais pas vu que tu partais de Bruxelles. 😮🤪
Merci, je repère tout cela sur la carte et je note, je note... Bonne idée de partir depuis Bombay en avion. Je me renseigne et je reviens certainement vers vos précieux conseils.
Anne
Un départ depuis Paris n'est pas impossible mais le thalys et le RER ajoutent au prix des billets et donc parfois la différence ne vaut pas le coup. Merci beaucoup de partager vos expériences, je tiens compte de tout cela dans mes préparatifs. Déjà quand j'aurai pris la décision de la date et du retour et du lieu où atterrir, j'aurai franchi un grand pas.
Anne
A.R sur Bombay Arrivée le 11/1 à Bombay Retour le 25/2. Presque 7 semaines🙂
On va prendre certainement un vol intérieur pour rejoindre le sud. Goa?
Je cherche en vain Bathery sur la carte et les guides?
J'ai par contre repéré Kodai. Je suis bien contente d'avoir de telles destinations qui nous éloignent de la chaleur car je ne supporte pas bien et j'ai lu que même en hiver, il pouvait faire très chaud.
Merci de tous les bonnes idées.
Bathery se situe dans le district de Wayanad c'est le nord-est du Kerala, le nom c'est exactement Sultanbathery, mais courrament on dit Bathery !
C'est vrai que sur la côte il fait toujours assez chaud mais dans les collines, par exemple Munnar en Janvier le soir une petite laine ça peut servir.
7 semaines c'est génial tu vas vraiment pouvoir découvrir tout le sud de l'Inde.
Les choses avancent peu à peu. Les bonnes adresses de Odni repérées sur la carte et d'autres aussi glanées ci et là sur le forum.
Nouvelles questions?
Nous arrivons donc à Bombay avec British Airways à 11h45 heure locale. Il y a un vol à 14h45 pour Chennai est ce raisonnable de le réserver. 3heures. Ce vol est assuré par la compagnie Indigo. Quelqu'un connait?
On aimerait bien être accueilli à Chennai par un chauffeur qui nous mènerait dans un lieu calme et nous véhiculerait dans un premier temps dans le Tamil Nadu. Quelqu'un ou une agence à nous recommander. On m'a vanté Shanti Travel.
Bruxelles est la base aérienne européenne de Jet Airways, la compagnie indienne la plus fiable et confortable, avec des équipages extrêmement serviables et aimables, et qui offre souvent des tarifs très raisonnables.
Elle a un vol direct Bruxelles-Chennai (nouveau nom de Madras depuis 1996).
http://www.jetairways.com/FR/EU/Home.aspx
http://www.jetairways.com/FR/EU/Home.aspx
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Merci, en fait on a déjà nos billets Bxl, Mumbai. Le comparateur de prix au moment de notre réservation d'avion nous a fait choisir British airways Un peu moins de 1000€ A.R. pour 2. Vol de nuit et juste une escale à Londres. Bruxelles Chennai était presque au double.
C'est pour rejoindre le sud maintenant que la question se pose. Peux-t-on prendre en arrivant à Mumbai un vol intérieur à bon prix et immédiat ou vaut-il mieux réserver déjà maintenant au risque de louper la correspondance.
Nous aimerions ne pas faire d'étape à Bombay.
C'est avec Air India qu'il aurait fallu s'inquiéter pour la correspondance car ils sont presque toujours en retard (leurs avions tiennent d'ailleurs avec du sparadrap, et leurs équipages sont sympas comme des portes de prison).
Avec British Airways, ça devrait aller.
Arriver crevés à Bombay, et devoir s'occuper de réserver un vol intérieur dans un aéroport inconnu, ce n'est peut être pas une perspective très agréable. Je n'en sais rien, je réserve tout depuis Paris quand je vais en Inde.
Dommage que vous n'ayez pas réservé un vol Bruxelles-Chennai, la correspondance aurait sûrement coûté moins cher.
Arriver crevés à Bombay, et devoir s'occuper de réserver un vol intérieur dans un aéroport inconnu, ce n'est peut être pas une perspective très agréable. Je n'en sais rien, je réserve tout depuis Paris quand je vais en Inde.
Dommage que vous n'ayez pas réservé un vol Bruxelles-Chennai, la correspondance aurait sûrement coûté moins cher.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Aucun probleme avec la compagnie aeriene Indigo.
Pour trouver un chauffeur pour l'Inde du sud: utiliser l'onglet chercher en haut du site et taper des mots clés. Vous trouverez facilement un chauffeur francophones.
Si besoin: www.facebook.com/DavidVanilleBourbon😛
Pour trouver un chauffeur pour l'Inde du sud: utiliser l'onglet chercher en haut du site et taper des mots clés. Vous trouverez facilement un chauffeur francophones.
Si besoin: www.facebook.com/DavidVanilleBourbon😛
Merci pour tout.
Pour le moment je panique un peu déjà 2 personnes coup sur coup qui me disent que rester si longtemps en Inde (6 grosses semaines) va être très dur...😠 Oh là là, je peux même pas les accuser de jalousie. Il faut absolument que j'atterrisse en douceur... Vol Bombay Chennai, Bombay Goa (je le sens moins Goa) ou départ direct avec chauffeur depuis Bombay pour partir vers Ellora Ajanta et redescendre vers Bijapur et Hampi avant de rejoindre le sud. C'est quand même des distances énormes. Quelques jours de réflexions ne vont pas être de trop. Vos conseils aussi!
En attendant je sais que je veux prendre le temps. C'est là que cela pose problème la voiture avec chauffeur. Ou bien on le paye pour se reposer.. Pourquoi pas mais nous ne sommes pas Rotschild... Excusez mon humeur.
😠 Oh là là, je peux même pas les accuser de jalousie.
Je pense que si 😏 ... Je suis allée en Inde pour la première fois en février durant presque 3mois , et je repars toute seule en février prochain comme vous. Cette fois-ci je viendrais depuis Bangkok et à Mumbai je prendrais un vol pour Goa car je ne veut pas trop m'attarder là bas.C'est sur que l'Inde c'est un sacré dépaysement mais quand on voyage c'est ce qu'on cherche. Après il y a des endroits qui plaisent plus que d'autres c'est normal , moi par exemple j'adore Goa et Hampi que beaucoup de gens aiment ne m'a pas trop plut. Vous avez encore pas mal de temps pour finir les préparations de votre voyage , ce forum est d'une grande aide.
http://lesvoyagesdejamy.over-blog.com/#
Je pense que si 😏 ... Je suis allée en Inde pour la première fois en février durant presque 3mois , et je repars toute seule en février prochain comme vous. Cette fois-ci je viendrais depuis Bangkok et à Mumbai je prendrais un vol pour Goa car je ne veut pas trop m'attarder là bas.C'est sur que l'Inde c'est un sacré dépaysement mais quand on voyage c'est ce qu'on cherche. Après il y a des endroits qui plaisent plus que d'autres c'est normal , moi par exemple j'adore Goa et Hampi que beaucoup de gens aiment ne m'a pas trop plut. Vous avez encore pas mal de temps pour finir les préparations de votre voyage , ce forum est d'une grande aide.
http://lesvoyagesdejamy.over-blog.com/#
J'ai déjà fait des séjours de un mois et demi en Inde et franchement je n'attend que de recommencer !
Il est possible que tu ais un moment de fatigue, mai faut être honnête ça arrive même sur des séjours plus courts. Lors de mes premiers voyages en inde au bout de 1 semaines j'avais un ras le bol de parler anglais et du coup je pouvais passer un jour en ne parlant à personne ! pas très cool, mais après ça repart de plus belle et ça n'empêche pas de passer un séjour génial.
Pour le vol interne en arrivant à Bombay, je pense que c'est mieux si tu reserves avant de partir, il faut que tu prennes une marge de 5-6 heures par sécurité, le temps de récupérer les bagages, passer à l'immigration et prendre la navette pour changer d'aéroport et pour les éventuels retards.
Même si tu restes plusieurs jours à chaque endroit la voiture peut être utile pour visiter les alentours. De toute façon le prix est fonction du nombre de jours mais aussi du nombre de kilomètres. Pour "atterrir en douceur" je te conseille de prendre une voiture au début du séjour, le temps de te mettre dans le bain et après va pour les bus ou trains.........
Avec, tous les conseils reçus de toutes parts j'ai souligné de nombreux points sur ma carte d'Inde du sud. Beaucoup trop je pense! il y a des lieux qui me semblent qd même incontournable dont Hampi et à vous lire il vaut mieux rester au minimum 4 jours. Aussi j'envisage de m'y rendre plutôt en début de séjour mais du coup le point de chûte est un peu compliqué à déterminer. On est assez tenté de passer nos premiers jours à Mamallapuram! La question c'est donc Chennai vers Hampi, c'est faisable mais mon mari trouve un peu curieux de remonter!
Quelques jours sur Mahabalipuram en arrivant ça me parait sympa, tu auras déjà quelques monuments mais il y a aussi la côte.
Traverser de Chennai vers hampi c'est bien sûr possible ( no problem that is possible ! )mais si tu n'as rien prévu à visiter en chemin c'est un peu perte de temps.
Puisque tu penses aller au Tamil Nadu et au Kerala, après Mahabalipuram tu peux enchainer par un circuit à travers le Tamil Nadu jusqu'à la pointe ( Kaniyakumari) ensuite continuer par le Kerala et puis remonter le Karnataka jusqu'à Hampi de là tu peux continuer encore vers le nord du karnataka ( Badami, Bijapur ...) ou bien partir vers l'ouest en direction de Goa et dans les 2 cas c'est facile de retourner vers Bombay.
Hampi, il y a beaucoup à voir mais je pense que 2 jours suffisent, sauf si vous êtes des férus d'histoire ou d'hindouisme !
Merci, Odni. Tous tes conseils me sont précieux. Le trajet que tu proposes est plus ou moins celui que j'avais préparé mais j'ai peur de traîner en route et de ne plus avoir le temps pour Hampi qui se ferait en fin de voyage, surtout qu'il me semblait important d'y passer plusieurs jours.
Bonjour Anne,
Pour moi le départ en Inde du Sud est dans 2 semaines. Nous partons avec mon amoureux, et serons là bas 26 jours sur place. Nous voyagerons en train essentiellement, bus, et 1 vol intérieur. Si ça peut te donner des idées éventuellement, voici à peu près comment j'ai conçu mon périple :
- Arrivée le 9 novembre à Chennai, on file directement à Mamallapuram pour 2 jours. - Départ le 12 à Pondy, d'où nous repartons le 13 au soir par train de nuit, direction Rameswaram. - visite de Rameswaram les 14 et 15. - départ tôt le matin en bus (4h) pour Madurai le 16 (nous avons l'après-midi et le soir pour profiter du temple) - le 17, départ pour Munnar et ses plantations de thé (environ 6h de bus) - les 18 et 19 visite de Munnar - le 20 départ en bus pour Alleppey - les 21 et 22 visite d'Alleppey - le 23, direction l'aéroport de Kochi (à 2h d'Alleppey) et vol intérieur pour Bangalore (1h), puis bus pour Mysore (2h30). - visite de Mysore les 24, 25 et 26, puis retour à Bangalore le soir pour un train de nuit vers Hospet/Hampi - visite d'Hampi les 27, 28, 29 - le 30 départ en train pour Goa où nous passons nos 3-4 derniers jours avant de reprendre le cap vers la France.
Voilà, si ça peut t'aider...
Pour moi le départ en Inde du Sud est dans 2 semaines. Nous partons avec mon amoureux, et serons là bas 26 jours sur place. Nous voyagerons en train essentiellement, bus, et 1 vol intérieur. Si ça peut te donner des idées éventuellement, voici à peu près comment j'ai conçu mon périple :
- Arrivée le 9 novembre à Chennai, on file directement à Mamallapuram pour 2 jours. - Départ le 12 à Pondy, d'où nous repartons le 13 au soir par train de nuit, direction Rameswaram. - visite de Rameswaram les 14 et 15. - départ tôt le matin en bus (4h) pour Madurai le 16 (nous avons l'après-midi et le soir pour profiter du temple) - le 17, départ pour Munnar et ses plantations de thé (environ 6h de bus) - les 18 et 19 visite de Munnar - le 20 départ en bus pour Alleppey - les 21 et 22 visite d'Alleppey - le 23, direction l'aéroport de Kochi (à 2h d'Alleppey) et vol intérieur pour Bangalore (1h), puis bus pour Mysore (2h30). - visite de Mysore les 24, 25 et 26, puis retour à Bangalore le soir pour un train de nuit vers Hospet/Hampi - visite d'Hampi les 27, 28, 29 - le 30 départ en train pour Goa où nous passons nos 3-4 derniers jours avant de reprendre le cap vers la France.
Voilà, si ça peut t'aider...
aurore
Merci Aurore,
Je n'avais pas vu qu'il y avait une liaison Rameswaram Munnar.
De mon côté, j'envisage d'y aller soit de Madurai ou à partir d'Ernakulam qui est prés de Cochin. De Rameswaram, j'aimerais bien rallier le cap Comore sans repasser par Madurai. Toutefois avec mes guides cela n'a pas l'air des plus simples.
Je vous souhaite un super voyage et j'espère que vous partagerez vos expériences au retour.
De rameswaram à cap comorin, il y a des trains ( beaucoup plus confortable et prudent et rapide que le bus), notamment des trains de nuit mais pas tous les jours de la semaine. Pour connaitre les horaires de trains, faire des simulations, savoir combien de places il reste etc, le site cleartrip.com est parfait, j'y ai fait mes réservations de train de nuit, c'est nickel. Bon voyage!
aurore
Il y a un train direct de Rameswaram à Kanyakumari, le "Rameswaram Kanyakumari SF Express" numéro 12789, mais les horaires ne sont pas intéressants, quoique ce soit un avis tout à fait personnel. Ce train part à 20h45, donc de nuit, ce qui ne permet pas de voir le passage sur le pont : 2 kilomètres le long desquels, à droite comme à gauche du train, il n'y a que la mer... Très, très chouette à voir. Ce serait dommage de n'y passer que de nuit.
Pour ma part, je préférerais prendre un train pour Madurai, avant d'aller à Kanyakumari. Mais, je le répète, c'est un avis tout à fait personnel ! 😉
Pour ma part, je préférerais prendre un train pour Madurai, avant d'aller à Kanyakumari. Mais, je le répète, c'est un avis tout à fait personnel ! 😉
Ouah Elconcombre, si je ne monte pas dans le train, j'aimerais au moins le voir passer! C'est où et à quelle heure??? Prés de Rameswaram, je suppose.
J'ai un peu de soucis avec les trains car je tiens à faire un voyage au jour le jour et rallier les lieux que j'ai pointé sur ma carte sans contrainte et j'ai un peu regardé le site cleartrip.com proposé par Aurore mais dans les dates où je pense rallier le Cap Comore il semble qu'il n'y a plus de place dans les trains. Je vais regarder vers le lien que tu donnes. Toi qui est "spécialiste trains", faut-il réserver si longtemps à l'avance?
Merci
Des trains entre Rameswaram et Madurai, il y en a quelques uns. Il me semble me rappeler que j'avais pris le 56724 Rameswaram Madurai Passenger qui démarrait à 5h25 (oui, je sais, c'est tôt, mais faut c'qu'il faut !).
Je n'arrive pas à accéder pour le moment à IndiaRailInfo, le site a quelques soucis apparemment. A voir dans les jours suivants pour les autres trains au départ de Rameswaram. IndiaRailInfo est beaucoup plus pratique et plus souple que ClearTrip ou MakeMyTrip pour trouver les trains, il a l'énorme avantage de mentionner les gares les plus proches des villes de départ ou d'arrivée recherchées.
Pour ce qui est de la réservation... Pas facile à dire. Tout dépend des trajets que tu veux faire, dans quelle classe tu veux voyager, etc... Pour les courts trajets (3 à 5 heures), je voyage souvent en classe sans réservation, c'est le plus pratique. Un peu folklo pour se faire une place, mais on y arrive toujours. Sinon, restent les bus, pour les courts trajets également. Ça marche très bien dans le Tamil Nadu.
Je n'arrive pas à accéder pour le moment à IndiaRailInfo, le site a quelques soucis apparemment. A voir dans les jours suivants pour les autres trains au départ de Rameswaram. IndiaRailInfo est beaucoup plus pratique et plus souple que ClearTrip ou MakeMyTrip pour trouver les trains, il a l'énorme avantage de mentionner les gares les plus proches des villes de départ ou d'arrivée recherchées.
Pour ce qui est de la réservation... Pas facile à dire. Tout dépend des trajets que tu veux faire, dans quelle classe tu veux voyager, etc... Pour les courts trajets (3 à 5 heures), je voyage souvent en classe sans réservation, c'est le plus pratique. Un peu folklo pour se faire une place, mais on y arrive toujours. Sinon, restent les bus, pour les courts trajets également. Ça marche très bien dans le Tamil Nadu.
Je ne demanderai pas mieux que d'avoir le bonheur de passer 6 semaines en Inde et surtout n'écoute pas trop les ressentis de tes amis, vfistes etc...car tu verras que les avis sur ce pays sont très divergents d'une personne à une autre.
Si tu veux aller là-bas, fonce et n'écoute que ton coeur et ton intuition car un voyage ça se vit avant tout parce qu' à trop se poser des questions, on passe à côté des choses, des gens etc...
bon voyage
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Ok Gizmo, je ne peux plus reculer de toutes façons et plus le temps passe, plus je me dis que nous avons une chance du tonnerre de visiter longuement ces régions d'Inde et que nous n'aurons pas le temps de faire tout en 6 grosses semaines.
Elconcombre, merci de tous tes renseignements, je suis allée sur le site rail india, je pense. Il semble qu'il faut vraiment réserver longtemps à l'avance et cela me prouve, s'il le fallait encore, que ce site de voyage est une mine d'or. Toute cette expérience partagée, c'est extraordinaire.
J'ai encore quelque chose à demander mais peut-être devrais-je lancer une nouvelle discussion. Je suis céramiste et cela me plairait bien de me retrouver au milieu de potiers à un moment où l'autre, y a t-il des villages, des lieux à connaitre?
Kodaikanal et Munnar peux t-on passer de l'un à l'autre? Je pense que pour cette partie là de notre circuit on va louer une voiture avec chauffeur. Les deux lieux m'attirent mais ils sont finalement assez proches l'un de l'autre quoique sur 2 versants différents et 2 provinces!
Oui, on peut aller de Kodaikanal à Munnar , il faut environ 4h30. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il y a comme bus , car j'ai fait le circuit en voiture. Munnar c'est plus les plantations de thé tandis que Kodaikanal c'est plutôt nature sauvage. Je trouve aussi que les 2 villes ont une ambiance différente, beaucoup plus de foule à Munnar et Kodai c'est plus ambiance petit village.
En ce qui concerne les trains, je crois que je fais une croix dessus. Il faut réserver trop longtemps à l'avance et je suis incapable de savoir maintenant quand et où je serai dans mon périple. Je penche de plus en plus pour les bus petits parcours tant que l'on est dans le Tamil Nadu. Mamalipuram, Kanchipuram, Gingee, Tiruvanmalai, Pondy, Chidambaram, Kumbakonam, Tanjore, Trichy. Tout cela me semble aisé mais aprés on prend une voiture pour rejoindre Ramerswaram puis Kanyakumari. On continue ensuite avec la voiture dans le Kerala. Question que je me pose c'est :Fait-on la route de la côte ou bien revient on sur Madurai avant? Je suis preneuse de bons avis.
Bonjour ensoleille de Bruxelles
Voyez sur place, vous trouverez certainement des trains qui conviendront à votre itinéraire. Jetez un œil sur le site dans ma signature, pour avoir une idée des disponibilités. Allez voir dans les gares, demandez à votre hôtel...
Et, pour les courts trajets, il y a aussi les classes sans réservation. Pointez-vous suffisamment tôt à la gare, ça sera suffisant.
Bonjour de Bretagne, où il fait très beau aussi ! 😎
Bonjour de Bretagne, où il fait très beau aussi ! 😎
Mahabalipuram, kanchipuram. A votre avis AR ou dormir à kanchipuram?
De kanchipuram à Gingee ça parait possible? Ou j'établis un 2ème camp de base à Pondy pour faire Gingee et peut étre Tiruvanmalai. Quoique les 2 en un jour parait difficile surtout si je reviens à Pondy pour le soir.
De Pondy après je descendrai vers Chidanbaram et Tranquebar. J'ai vu que c'est faisable en bus.
Après j'aimerais voir gangaikondacholapuram temple. Transport entre Tranquebar et Kumbakonam bus? Puis Kumbakonam taxi ou bus pour le sri Pragadheswarar? De Kumbakonam direction Tanjore et de nouveau gde hésitation Ramerswaram par le chettinad ou d'abord Madurai.
J'essaye d'éviter les longs déplacements et l'idée de rayonner en étoile à partir d'une ville me plait assez.
J'en suis encore qu'au tout début du voyage. Je veux peut-être trop en faire.
Ta réponse pour les trains me rassurent un peu Elconcombre.
J'aimerais beaucoup alterner transport commun et voiture.
Bonsoir,
Je ne peux répondre sur les villes citées, je n'y suis pas (encore) allé. Peut-être feront-elles partie du prochain voyage, je ne sais pas encore. Il faudra revenir sur le forum pour raconter ! 😛
Tout de même, à voir à quel point vous voulez border tous les déplacements, je me dis qu'un peu d'improvisation, ça ne ferait pas forcément de mal, non ? Enfin bon, moi c'que j'en dis... 😊😊😊 En tous cas, à chaque voyage en Inde, la réalité est bien différente de ce que j'avais préparé. Et c'est généralement pour le mieux ! 🙂
Je ne peux répondre sur les villes citées, je n'y suis pas (encore) allé. Peut-être feront-elles partie du prochain voyage, je ne sais pas encore. Il faudra revenir sur le forum pour raconter ! 😛
Tout de même, à voir à quel point vous voulez border tous les déplacements, je me dis qu'un peu d'improvisation, ça ne ferait pas forcément de mal, non ? Enfin bon, moi c'que j'en dis... 😊😊😊 En tous cas, à chaque voyage en Inde, la réalité est bien différente de ce que j'avais préparé. Et c'est généralement pour le mieux ! 🙂
Ben, en fait c'est l'impro que je préfère et de loin. Mais à force de lire que les trains sont pleins et les bus bondés, je m'inquiète. Un message comme celui-là me rassure. Aussi quand on prépare avec les guides on a l'impression qu'il faut tout faire mais par expérience avec mon dernier voyage je sais que je ne verrai pas tout et que c'est bien mieux de se laisser porter par le moment.
A bientôt sur le forum
T'en fais pas l'impro arrivera c'est sûr ! Et justement la préparation servira à gérer .... l'imprévu ! Je prépare toujours mon circuit mais je n'en reste pas esclave... Je décide des visites lorsque je suis sur place. La description dans les guides et la perception qu'en ont eu les autres voyageurs ne correspond pas forcement à ce que tu vas ressentir en y arrivant sur un lieu.
Tu demandes s'il vaut mieux aller à Rameswaram avant ou après Madurai, je dirais ça dépend de ce que tu fais après Madurai. Si tu continues vers le sud du TN ça n'a pas d'importance, mais si tu pars vers le Kerala, va en premier à Rameshwaram.
A Rameswaram va trainer vers le port de pêche ça vaut vraiment le coup d'y passer un aprèsmidi.
Odni, tu es un vrai coach! 😉 En principe de Ramerswharam on devrait arriver à Kanyakumari. En voiture ou en train that is the question...
En tous cas, préparer me familiarise avec la géographie de l'Inde du sud, je deviens incollable pour situer les villes. Je crois que maintenant il va falloir que je passe à l'histoire. Entre deux je refais de l'anglais...
A bientôt
Bonjour à tous,
Voilà on a craqué pour faire une grande partie de notre périple en taxi, nous avons un chouette contact en francais avec mayiletour à Pondy. On s'est décidé pour cette option par confort je ne le cache pas. Nous ne sommes plus si jeune et pour un premier voyage en Inde, cela me semble contribuer à sa réussite. Notre décision aussi et de ne pas avaler les km et donc d'aller tout doux en fonction des rencontres et des lieux et cela semble tout à fait compris par Velou Samba de Mayiletour tour, nous sommes d'accord que le voyage peut évoluer en cours de route. Voici donc pour le moment notre périple tel qu'il est établi mais tout à fait ouvert. L'option est culture qd même, nature et rencontres.
3 premières nuits à Mamallipuram. Villa Monikandam
2 nuits Pondy
J.6 Début de la location taxi: Tiruvanamalai nuit à Tiruvanamali, Gingee
J7 j8 village Tamil sud Pondy
J9 Chidambaram nuit Tarangampadi
J10 ganga... Dharasuram Kumbakonam nuit Tanjore
J11 Tanjore nuit Tanjore
j12 pudukotta Karaikkudi nuit
J13 Karaikkudi nuit Ramerswaram
J14,15 Ramerswaram en tout 3 nuits
J16,17 Madurai 2nuits
J18 19 Kodaikanal 2nuits
J 20 Kodaikanal Munnar
J21 Munnar 2nuits
J22 Munnar Allepey
J 23, 24 Allepey 3nuits
J25 Allepey, Parur Chendamagalam nuit
J26,27 Trichur 2nuits
j28 Palakakad, silent valley nuit
J 29 silent valley Mettupalayam nuit
J 30 petit train Ooty nuit
J 31 Ooty mudumalai Masinagudi nuit
J32 Masinagudi nuit
J 33 Masinagudi sultan Battery nuit
J34 Kabbani réservoir Mysore 2 nuits
J 35 Mysore
J 36 Mysore Belur nuit 2nuits
J37 Belur
J 38 Belur Chitradurga 2nuits
J 39 Hampi fin de la location de voiture
J 40 à 44 Hampi ce qui fait 4 jours plein à Hampi
J45 Hampi Hubli train. vol Bombay nuit Bombay
J 46 Bombay Bruxelles.
Toute ouverte à vos expériences et conseils. J'hésite encore à rester qq. Jours à Bombay à la fin du voyage.
Merci
Votre voyage est bien alléchant.
Je me premettrai juste d'apporter quelques suggestions.
- 3 nuits sur Rameswaram me semble un peu long pour l'intérèt de l'endroit, il me semblerait plus judicieux de reporter une nuit sur Madurai qui est vraiment très très agréable.
- Passer deux nuits à Trichur sans même s'arrêter à Kochi (Cochin) est peut-être aussi dommage, Kochi offre de belles perspectives culturelles.
Je pense que lorsque vous serez à Belur, vous en profiterez pour visiter Halebid.
Enfin pour ce qui est de Mumbaï, je n'hésiterais pas à y passer 3 jours.
Philinde
Merci Pour Madurai nos jours sont un peu élastiques, donc si on décide de partir plus tôt de Ramerswaram ou au contraire rester plus longtemps à Madurai, c'est possible. Pareil pour Cochin que je mets et retire de mon trajet. C'est dans cet esprit que j'ai compté souvent 2 nuits et plus par lieu. A Bombay, vous avez des lieux à nous conseiller? J'ai repéré une française qui faisait des visites guidées dans un vieux message si nous nous décidons je la contacterai. Par ailleurs ou dormir à un prix convenable dans cette grande ville? Vous avez des adresses?
Bien sûr Belur et Halebid.
Bonne soirée
Bombay est une énorme ville et une expérience en soi. l'aspect architectural est très intéressant en particulier avec les batiments du British Raj (Université, gare ferroviaire...). Une excursion à l'ile d'Elephanta est aussi une splendide balade. Je n'ai pas d'hôtel particulier à recommander sinon vous dire que la ville est gigantesque et qu'on peut très vite se retrouver à une heure du centre. Le routard vous en dira plus que moi.
Bonne soirée.
Philinde
ça se précise !
C'est vrai l'avantage de la voiture avec chauffeur c'est qu'on est plus libre dans l'organisation de la journée on n'est pas bloqué par les horaires de bus ou les réservations de train.
Quant au programme à mon avis il manque Kochi mais 3 jours à Alleppey ça me parait beaucoup. Quand tu seras à Trissur continue vers Guruvayur et surtout va voir les éléphants du temple. Je vois que tu as 3 nuits sur Rameshwaram, réserve une journée pour aller vers Dhanushkodi c'est vraiment sympa. Il me semble que 4 jours sur Hampi c'est un peu long ; s'il te reste quelques jour en fin de voyage, tu peux remonter vers Mumbai en train et t'arrêter vers Badami, il y a les caves et dans les environs des temples.
En tout cas bon voyage ! .
Bonsoir Anne,
Par ailleurs ou dormir à un prix convenable dans cette grande ville? Vous avez des adresses?
La dernière fois que je suis allé à Bombay (en 2010), j'avais bien aimé le Broadway Hotel (1st floor, 49/51 Mathuradad Building N°2, 10/12 Mandlik Road, une rue perpendiculaire à Colaba Causeway - numéros de téléphone : (0091)022-67432244 / (0091)022-67432255 / (0091)022-22023729). Chambres confortables quoique petites, mais c'est le cas de la très grande majorité des piaules de Bombay (petites, hein, parce que pour le confort... 🤪). Propres, en tous cas, avec la clim et salle de bain dans la chambre. J'y étais quelques jours ou semaines après l'ouverture, donc j'avais réussi à négocier le tarif (environ 1600 roupies, ce qui est convenable pour cette ville). Les prix ont dû augmenter depuis. Mais plutôt un bon souvenir, patrons sympas et prêts à rendre service. Tiens-moi au courant si tu trouves un bon plan à Bombay, je le noterai pour mon prochain séjour dans cette ville que j'aime beaucoup.
Des choses à voir : Elephanta Island, comme conseillé plus haut, Mangaldas et Crawford Market, Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus (la grande gare de Bombay), Marine Drive (le soir, vers 19 heures, allez manger des bhelpuri sur la plage de Chowpatty, et admirez le Collier de la Reine illuminé), la mosquée Haji Ali, Mahalaxmi et son "dhobbi ghat", Khotachi Wadi le petit village perdu au milieu des tours (et il y a pas loin une gargotte d'où je garde un souvenir ému des samosas et des jalebi de mon dernier voyage... Mais pas moyen de me souvenir de son emplacement exact. On y arrive par surprise, et on ne le regrette pas !), Banganga Tank tout près de Malabar Hill et ses propriétés bourgeoises... La liste peut être très longue. J'en parle un tout petit peu dans mon carnet de voyage, si ça peut te donner une idée.
Bon voyage en tous cas ! Tu as bien de la chance, d'aller à Bombay, j'ai vraiment, mais alors vraiment hâte d'y retourner !
Par ailleurs ou dormir à un prix convenable dans cette grande ville? Vous avez des adresses?
La dernière fois que je suis allé à Bombay (en 2010), j'avais bien aimé le Broadway Hotel (1st floor, 49/51 Mathuradad Building N°2, 10/12 Mandlik Road, une rue perpendiculaire à Colaba Causeway - numéros de téléphone : (0091)022-67432244 / (0091)022-67432255 / (0091)022-22023729). Chambres confortables quoique petites, mais c'est le cas de la très grande majorité des piaules de Bombay (petites, hein, parce que pour le confort... 🤪). Propres, en tous cas, avec la clim et salle de bain dans la chambre. J'y étais quelques jours ou semaines après l'ouverture, donc j'avais réussi à négocier le tarif (environ 1600 roupies, ce qui est convenable pour cette ville). Les prix ont dû augmenter depuis. Mais plutôt un bon souvenir, patrons sympas et prêts à rendre service. Tiens-moi au courant si tu trouves un bon plan à Bombay, je le noterai pour mon prochain séjour dans cette ville que j'aime beaucoup.
Des choses à voir : Elephanta Island, comme conseillé plus haut, Mangaldas et Crawford Market, Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus (la grande gare de Bombay), Marine Drive (le soir, vers 19 heures, allez manger des bhelpuri sur la plage de Chowpatty, et admirez le Collier de la Reine illuminé), la mosquée Haji Ali, Mahalaxmi et son "dhobbi ghat", Khotachi Wadi le petit village perdu au milieu des tours (et il y a pas loin une gargotte d'où je garde un souvenir ému des samosas et des jalebi de mon dernier voyage... Mais pas moyen de me souvenir de son emplacement exact. On y arrive par surprise, et on ne le regrette pas !), Banganga Tank tout près de Malabar Hill et ses propriétés bourgeoises... La liste peut être très longue. J'en parle un tout petit peu dans mon carnet de voyage, si ça peut te donner une idée.
Bon voyage en tous cas ! Tu as bien de la chance, d'aller à Bombay, j'ai vraiment, mais alors vraiment hâte d'y retourner !
Merci Odni et Elconcombre et aussi tous les autes sur ce forum avec qui j'ai correspondu ou dont j'ai lu les messages instructifs.
Odni, j'ai regardé pour aller à Badami depuis Hampi mais dur dur et surtout cela semble demander plus de temps qu'il me reste, je dois décider car il faut que je réserve le trajet de retour vers Bombay. Je regarde aussi pour tes autres suggestions, je pense à rajouter Cochin. Je voulais voir une démonstration d kalaryat et j'ai effectivement vu qu'il y en avait à Cochin donc peut être l'impasse sur Trichur. Les autres lieux je regarde sur la carte.
Elconcombre ton enthousiasme pour Bombay met du poids dans la balance pour 2,3 jours à Bombay.
"Choisir c'est renoncer"comme dirait l'autre!!!
Au fait, il faut que j'apprenne aussi tous ces noms bhelpuri, jalebi... Rien que d'essayer je ris toute seule de m'imaginer en demander avec mon mauvais anglais, ça me rappelle une anecdote familiale quand à Londres mes 2 filles ont demandé que je leur commande des glaces à la fraise et qu'elles ont reçu des glaces vanilles.
Bonnes fêtes à tous
Anne
Rien que d'essayer je ris toute seule de m'imaginer en demander avec mon mauvais anglais
Pas d'inquiétude, l'anglais des Indiens auxquels tu auras affaire est souvent pas terrible, lui aussi ! 😛 Il n'est parlé couramment que par 5 à 10% des Indiens. Je te laisse imaginer les discussions pour le moins amusantes que l'on peut avoir, souvent 😉. Mais on arrive toujours à se faire comprendre. Et c'est l'occasion d'apprendre quelques mots d'hindi, ceux qui servent à faire connaissance avec les gens que l'on croise...
Pas d'inquiétude, l'anglais des Indiens auxquels tu auras affaire est souvent pas terrible, lui aussi ! 😛 Il n'est parlé couramment que par 5 à 10% des Indiens. Je te laisse imaginer les discussions pour le moins amusantes que l'on peut avoir, souvent 😉. Mais on arrive toujours à se faire comprendre. Et c'est l'occasion d'apprendre quelques mots d'hindi, ceux qui servent à faire connaissance avec les gens que l'on croise...
Même s'il est compris par tous, ce n'est pas l'Hindi que tu entendras dans le sud de l'Inde mais plutôt Tamoul, Kanada ou Malayalam ! pour l'écriture aucune de ces langues n'a a même graphie . Pour ce qui est de l'anglais , l'anglais "indien " est vraiment particulier mais en général les chauffeurs parlent très bien l'anglais, c'était le cas pour ceux que j'ai eu lors de mes voyages. Ils étaient du Kerala et il faut reconnaitre que dans cet état il y a un bon niveau de scolarité.
Même s'il est compris par tous, ce n'est pas l'Hindi que tu entendras dans le sud de l'Inde mais plutôt Tamoul, Kanada ou Malayalam !
C'est sans doute, de France, la langue indienne la plus "accessible" si l'on veut en apprendre quelques rudiments. On peut trouver des méthodes en librairie, quelques sites internet... Mais je me rappelle de mon premier voyage, où j'étais passé du Nord au Sud, les quelques mots de hindi que j'avais fait l'effort d'apprendre à Varanasi ne m'étaient pas d'une grande utilité dans le Tamil Nadu ou le Kerala... 😛
C'est sans doute, de France, la langue indienne la plus "accessible" si l'on veut en apprendre quelques rudiments. On peut trouver des méthodes en librairie, quelques sites internet... Mais je me rappelle de mon premier voyage, où j'étais passé du Nord au Sud, les quelques mots de hindi que j'avais fait l'effort d'apprendre à Varanasi ne m'étaient pas d'une grande utilité dans le Tamil Nadu ou le Kerala... 😛
Pour en revenir à Bombay si j'atterris vers 21h30, quel est le mode d'emploi?
J'ai vu qu'il y a un bureau office de tourisme qui propose des last minutes pour les hôtels. j'arrive au domestic airport, es t il là ce bureau? Ouvert à cette heure? Ou bien, je fais confiance à un taxi qui m'amène à un hotel??? Car j'ai bien retenu que les taxis ne connaissent pas les noms des rues n'est il pas? Si j'arrive en train ls questions sont plus ou moins les mêmes, sans compter que de ce que j'ai vu des horaires c'est aux petites heures qu'on arrive.
Elconcombre on peut se donner rdv là bas? Maintenant, je sais que le bhelpuri est un riz soufflé avec des légumes et de ce que j'ai vu sur internet ça a l'air bien bon. Allez je t'en offre un.
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We still have one night to slot in, and I’ve tentatively planned it in Tangalle, though it was a bit random. Would it make more sense to place it at a different stop? Or is there an intermediate stop I might be missing?
I’ve got accommodations sorted everywhere except Mumbai—it’s a nightmare (either way too expensive or really dodgy). By default, we’ve spotted the Residency Hotel Fort, but 70 € a night (with a discount) for a hotel that doesn’t offer anything special in India?!
Thanks so much for your help!


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Hello,
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Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
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Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
What are the places you’ve loved with this in mind? I’ve already thought of Gokarna... Do you have any other suggestions, especially in Northern India? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
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Hi,
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Practical tips from my 105 days of erratic wandering in India
Day 1 (10/10/2006): arrived in Mumbai around noon. Bus No. 338 5 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) 20' to Andheri station. Train 6 Rs to Dadar. Train 41 Rs to Lonavla 2h30 Hotel Chandralok 500 Rs **
Day 2: bike rental 7 Rs/h (too expensive, normal price 2-3 Rs/h) visit to the caves of Bhaja and Karla.
Day 3: train 28 Rs to Pune 1h20 Hotel National 416 Rs *
Day 4: train 141 Rs (with reservation) to Satara 2h45 Hotel Sagar 364 Rs **
Day 5: bus 110 Rs to Pandharpur 4h Hotel Aishwarya 450 Rs ***
Day 6: bike rental 2 Rs/h
Day 7: bus 125 Rs to Ahmadnagar 4h20 Hotel Parijat 250 Rs *
Day 8: train 151 Rs (!ticket for a mini 600 km trip!) to Jalgaon 5h30 Hotel Plaza 200 Rs **
Day 9: round-trip bus 38 Rs to Ajanta 1h30 + shuttle 6 Rs 5' Site entrance 250 Rs
Day 10: train 47 Rs to Khandwa 3h + bus 40 Rs to Omkareshwar 2h Ganesh G.H. 150 Rs *
Day 11 to 13: Omkareshwar
Day 14: bus 35 Rs to Maheshwar 2h45 Akashdeep Rest House 200 Rs **
Day 15: bus 8 Rs to Dhamnod 20' bus 20 Rs to crossroads 14 km from Mandu 1h40 bus 9 Rs to Mandu 20' Ram Mandir Dharamshala 100 Rs + 5 Rs for hot water *
Day 16: bike rental 3 Rs/h
Day 17: bus 50 Rs to Indore 4h Hotel Neelam 209 Rs
Day 18 to 20: Indore + round-trip bus 30 Rs to Ujjain 1h45
Day 21: train 82 Rs to Bhopal 5h30 Hotel Ranjeet 358 Rs *
Day 22: train 10 Rs to Sanchi 1h20 Jaiswal Lodge 200 Rs + 15 Rs for hot water! *
Day 23 and 24: visit to Sanchi + bike rental to visit the caves of Udayagiri
Day 25: train 69 Rs to Jhansi 5h + tempo 5 Rs to bus station + tempo 10 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) to Orccha 25' Sri Mahant G.H. 200 Rs **
Day 26 and 27: bike rental + train 20 Rs to Datia 30' + bemo 6 Rs to city center. Return bus 15 Rs 1h15
Day 28: bus 100 Rs to Khajuraho 4h Yogi Lodge 150 Rs **
Day 29: bike rental 30 Rs/day to visit the temples
Day 30: bus 70 Rs to Satna 4h + train 56 Rs to Jabalpur 3h Hotel Banjara 350 Rs **
Day 31: bike rental 2 Rs/h and visit to the Marble Rocks (50 km round trip)
Day 32: bus 50 Rs to Mandla 3h Hotel Satyam 250 Rs ** Round-trip bus 15 Rs to Ramnagar 1h15
Day 33: bus 60 Rs to Dindori 4h + bus 45 Rs to Amarkantak 3h (hellish road) Sarvodya Lodge 250 Rs °
Day 34: Amarkantak
Day 35: bus 25 Rs to Pendra Road 1h30 + train 120 Rs + 109 Rs (reservation) to Nagpur 8h Hotel Grand 257 Rs **
Day 36 and 37: bike rental + round-trip 25 Rs to Ramtek 1h40
Day 38: train 141 Rs + 125 Rs to Hyderabad 10h Hotel 3 Castles 200 Rs ° + Hotel Suhail 200 Rs °
Day 39 to 41: stay in Hyderabad
Day 42: train 48 Rs to Warangal 3h30 Hotel Surya 410 Rs **
Day 43: 60 Rs to Vijayawada 4h15 Hotel Sindhuri 275 Rs **
Day 44: round-trip bus 21 Rs to Amaravati 2h
Day 45: train 98 Rs to Visakhapatnam 7h30! (normally 6h) Hotel Sri Sampath Residency 250 Rs **
Day 46: train 111 Rs + 95 Rs to Puri 11h30 Travellers Inn 100 Rs ° + Hotel Z 300 Rs ***
Day 47 to 52: Puri + round-trip to Konarak
Day 53: train 38 Rs to Bhubaneshwar 1h15 Hotel Upasana 275 Rs *
Day 54: train 70 Rs to Balasore 4h bus 26 Rs to Baripada 1h40 Hotel Ambika 225 Rs °
Day 55: bus 25 Rs to Balasore 1h40 train 66 Rs + 68 Rs to Calcutta 6h30 Hotel Paragon 270 Rs * Hotel Crystal 350 Rs **
Day 56 to 62: Calcutta
Day 63: 60 Rs to Bishnupur 5h Hotel Monalisa 200 Rs *
Day 64: stay in Bishnupur no bike rental!
Day 65: bus 20 Rs to Bankura 1h30 bus 20 Rs to Durgapur 1h15 bus 28 Rs to Bolpur 2h15 Hotel Nisa 150 Rs *
Day 66 and 67: visit to Bolpur/Shantiniketan. Refused bike rental at ... 100 Rs/day!!! (Communist state of Bengal!!!)
Day 68: bus 20 Rs to Sainthia bus 35 Rs to Baharampur 4h30 bus 7 Rs to Murshidabad 40' Hotel Manjusha 350 Rs **
Day 69: bike lent by the friendly hotel owner and visit to Murshidabad
Day 70: bus 8 Rs to Baharampur 35' bus 60 Rs to Malda 6h (hellish road) Hotel Pratapaditya 231 Rs **
Day 71: train 66 Rs + 70 Rs to New Jalpaiguri 4h Hotel Holydon 250 Rs °
Day 72: train 52 Rs to Darjeeling 9h30! (normally 7h) Hotel Pineridge 500 Rs **
Day 73 to 75: Darjeeling
Day 76: train to New Jalpaiguri 9h30 + overnight train 271 Rs
Day 77: Patna Hotel President 482 Rs **
Day 78: stay in Patna
Day 79: train 18 Rs to Gaya 3h10 tempo 10 Rs to Bodhgaya 30' Deep G.H. 400 Rs!! °°
Day 80: return to Patna
Day 81: round-trip train 36 Rs to Rajgir 4h! (normally 3h)
Day 82: train 75 Rs to Varanasi 5h! (normally 4h) Yogi Lodge 150 Rs *
Day 83 to 87: Varanasi
Day 88: overnight train 310 Rs to Jaipur Evergreen G.H. 250 Rs **
Day 89: bike rental 30 Rs/day round-trip to Amber
Day 90: bus 59 Rs to Sikar 2h30 bus 23 Rs to Fatehpur 1h30 Rajshri Rest House 300 Rs *
Day 91: round-trip bus 12 Rs to Mandawa 30'
Day 92: round-trip bus 17 Rs to Churu 1h30
Day 93: bus 80 Rs to Jaipur 3h30 Evergreen G.H.
Day 94: bus 105 Rs to Bundi 5h30 Shivam G.H. 200 Rs **
Day 95: bike rental 3 Rs/h
Day 96: auto-rickshaw to station 45 Rs 25' train 44 Rs + 50 Rs to Chittorgarh train 21 Rs to Udaipur (total trip 8h) Badi Haveli 330 Rs **
Day 97 to 99: Udaipur + round-trip bus 45 Rs to Ranakpur 3h30
Day 100: bus 143 Rs to Ahmedabad 5h30 Hotel Manila 300 Rs **
Day 101: Ahmedabad
Day 102: bus 99 Rs to Bhavnagar 4h30 Hotel Vrindavan 200 Rs *
Day 103: round-trip bus 22 Rs to Palitana 1h10
Day 104: bus 85 Rs! to Ahmedabad 5h30 + overnight train ? Rs (feels like the end of the trip!)
Day 105 (January 22, 2007): train 6 Rs from Dadar to Andheri 20' + bus 5 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) to International Airport 20'
More figures British Airways flight price Brussels-London-Mumbai-London-Brussels 576 € Exchange rate from 55 Rs to 58.6 Rs per euro Average room price 272 Rs/night Daily budget 11 € Chai from 1 Rs (Calcutta-Bengal) to 6/7 Rs (Rajasthan) Bottle of water from 6 Rs (Udaipur), 8 Rs (Varanasi) to 12/13 Rs Internet from 8 Rs (Warangal), 10 Rs (Calcutta, Indore, Hyderabad), 20 Rs (often) to 40/60 Rs!! (Rajasthan) Beer in a restaurant from 85/100 Rs (often) to 150/165 Rs (Varanasi/Udaipur) More details on request
More figures British Airways flight price Brussels-London-Mumbai-London-Brussels 576 € Exchange rate from 55 Rs to 58.6 Rs per euro Average room price 272 Rs/night Daily budget 11 € Chai from 1 Rs (Calcutta-Bengal) to 6/7 Rs (Rajasthan) Bottle of water from 6 Rs (Udaipur), 8 Rs (Varanasi) to 12/13 Rs Internet from 8 Rs (Warangal), 10 Rs (Calcutta, Indore, Hyderabad), 20 Rs (often) to 40/60 Rs!! (Rajasthan) Beer in a restaurant from 85/100 Rs (often) to 150/165 Rs (Varanasi/Udaipur) More details on request
Hello everyone,
we got back from our trip to Kashmir and Ladakh three weeks ago.
We spent 4 weeks there, including one in Kashmir.
We’re really happy with our stay in Srinagar and Sonamarg. The Kashmiris gave us a very warm welcome and seemed pleased to see tourists who weren’t Indian. In fact, over the 4 days we spent in Srinagar, we only saw 4 people who looked European... Srinagar is stunning with its lakes and the lively Mughal gardens. No trouble getting around, whether by shikara, rickshaw, taxi, or on foot. The houseboats are gorgeous, unfortunately controlled by consortiums. We took a taxi to Sonamarg (20 €).
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
Thanks
Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much