Islande en fourgon 4x4
by Guy14
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je compte aller en Islande avec un Ducato Dangel: c'est plus un tout chemin qu'un véritable 4x4. Donc pas de franchissement, une garde au sol réduite donc uniquement passage de gué peu profond (30-40 cm max).
Si vous avez eu l'occasion d'aller en Islande avec un véhicule de ce type, pouvez-vous m'indiquer par quelles pistes vous êtes passé?
Cordialement
Guy
Bonjour
nous y retournons cette année avec un 4x4 préparé et une remorque Vous prenez le bateau quand?
des fourgons 4x4, des synchro... on en avait croisé sur quasiment toutes les pistes vous avez une idée de poarcours et de ce que vous voulez voire?
Au plaisir
Bonjour J'y vais avant tout pour faire de la randonné et du kayak de mer, sur une période d'un mois , en faisant le tour de l'Islande, en commençant par le Sud. Kayak de mer dans les Fjords du Nord-ouest, puis à la fin dans les Fjords de l'est avant de reprendre le bateau. Pour la randonnée, je pars avec le guide ROTHER: j'ai prévu une quinzaine de randonnées. A priori peu de piste en F mais j'espère notamment pouvoir aller: - à Landmannalaugar par le sud, mais visiblement problème de gué à l'arrivée; - à Askja par la F88, mais la aussi il semble qu'il y a, même le matin sans pluie, un gué assez profond. Notre programme va dépendre de la météo: si elle est mauvaise, on fera plus de pistes que de randonnées et de kayak. Mon fourgon étant mon premier 4x4 et l'ayant depuis peu, je vais faire attention à ne pas mettre mes roues n'importe ou. Guy
nous y retournons cette année avec un 4x4 préparé et une remorque Vous prenez le bateau quand?
des fourgons 4x4, des synchro... on en avait croisé sur quasiment toutes les pistes vous avez une idée de poarcours et de ce que vous voulez voire?
Au plaisir
Bonjour J'y vais avant tout pour faire de la randonné et du kayak de mer, sur une période d'un mois , en faisant le tour de l'Islande, en commençant par le Sud. Kayak de mer dans les Fjords du Nord-ouest, puis à la fin dans les Fjords de l'est avant de reprendre le bateau. Pour la randonnée, je pars avec le guide ROTHER: j'ai prévu une quinzaine de randonnées. A priori peu de piste en F mais j'espère notamment pouvoir aller: - à Landmannalaugar par le sud, mais visiblement problème de gué à l'arrivée; - à Askja par la F88, mais la aussi il semble qu'il y a, même le matin sans pluie, un gué assez profond. Notre programme va dépendre de la météo: si elle est mauvaise, on fera plus de pistes que de randonnées et de kayak. Mon fourgon étant mon premier 4x4 et l'ayant depuis peu, je vais faire attention à ne pas mettre mes roues n'importe ou. Guy
ok mais quelle année, quel mois
l'Islande et les gués changent énormément d'un mois sur l'autre
il y a 5 ans j'ai parcourus 2500km en SUV evec des pneus route et aucun soucis nulle part
quelques pistes F et on attend devant les gués pour en connaitre la profondeur avec les autres 4x4
en une journée, entre le matin et l'après midi, en fonction du soleil, de la pluie, de la t°, la hauteur des gués varie énormément !
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Bonjour Guy,
Un fourgon 4x4comme le tien passe sans problème par le F208 Sud jusqu'à Landmannalaugar. Si le dernier gué t'effraie, tu peux toujours stationner avant, il y a une passerelle piétonne. Le gué de la F88 sur la Lindaa vers Askja peut être un peu plus problématique certains jours, mais si les eaux sont hautes (pour l'instant cette année, elles ne le sont pas), il est possible de faire le détour par la F905 puis F901 pour rejoindre Askja.
Par beau temps, le kayak de mer, ça va être extraordinaire. Tu emmènes ton matériel ?
Bonne préparation.
Un fourgon 4x4comme le tien passe sans problème par le F208 Sud jusqu'à Landmannalaugar. Si le dernier gué t'effraie, tu peux toujours stationner avant, il y a une passerelle piétonne. Le gué de la F88 sur la Lindaa vers Askja peut être un peu plus problématique certains jours, mais si les eaux sont hautes (pour l'instant cette année, elles ne le sont pas), il est possible de faire le détour par la F905 puis F901 pour rejoindre Askja.
Par beau temps, le kayak de mer, ça va être extraordinaire. Tu emmènes ton matériel ?
Bonne préparation.
je prend la bateau dans une dizaine de jours. Evidemment j'ai bien compris que le niveau des gués dépend de plein de facteur, notamment de la métèo et de l'heure de la journée, de la nature du sol......
Il y a une différence notable de poids entre un SUV et un fourgon de 3T5...
Et les conséquences d'un soucis dans un gué entre un SUV et un fourgon ne sont peut-être pas les mêmes.
Bonjour Guy,
Nous sommes allés En Islande en 97 avec un Jumper Dangel équipé par Font Vendôme.( 4 personnes à bord dont 2 ados)
C'est en effet un tout chemin ! Donc prudence si vous n'êtes pas encore partis !!
Pour notre part, nous avons bloqué la boite en position courte dès la première piste donc avons fait la piste sud en "courtes" jusqu'à Reykjavik pour trouver un garage qui a procédé à une réparation de fortune (par téléphone avec Dangel)
La fin du voyage s'est bien passée avec les "syncro" brisées et donc en faisant passer la réduction à l'arrêt.
Pour les gués, les passer le matin quand les torrents sont au plus bas. Rouler doucement pour ne pas noyer le moteur !! Voire attendre et regarder où passent les autochtones !!
Nous avons du rouler dans la neige (c'était en juillet et il a neigé alors que nous étions au pied du Vatnajökull) et il faut alors se méfier des sables mouvants : La neige fondue transforme les terrains sableux en piège : plusieurs heures et trois véhicules pour nous en sortir!! :-(
Les pistes se sont bien améliorées depuis (nous sommes retournés en Islande en 2010 et de nombreuses pistes sont plus roulantes).
Nous avons fait la piste qui fait le tour de l'ile et la F 26 qui traverse en diagonale le pays.( Landmanalaugar a Myvatn -Sprengisandur) ainsi que la F35 puis 347 (Blonduos à Selfoss)
C'est un pays magnifique! Les paysages, les couleurs sont inoubliables, vous allez apprécier.
Bon voyage dans ce beau pays !
Kris
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Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Thanks for your tips! Penlan
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
Hi there,
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!