mais tout le monde ne peut pas se payer ce luxe, il faut aussi qu'on donne ici des indications pour la majorité du bateau.
Heu... 😇 la majorité du bateau (60% quand ça marche bien et que le département "excursions" fait bien son boulot, mais au moins 50%, sinon l'armateur ne fait pas assez de bénéfice... et à plus de 60%, l'armateur - et les TO locaux - a parfois du mal à "assurer" : source : responsables Costa) prend l'excursion "bateau".
Après, les adeptes de l'excursion "solo" sont nombreux sur ce forum et il importe effectivement qu'ils soient au mieux renseignés.
En sachant qu'il y a aussi des adeptes de l'excursion "solo" qui le sont
- parce qu'ils sont avant tout "découvreurs", (voire "baroudeurs"), et qu'ils ne veulent pas suivre un groupe et ses contraintes. Les transports en commun non plus. Avec comme option le *hasard*, source de plaisir et de surprise, ou au contraire une *énorme préparation* (culturelle et/ou logistique) avant la croisière...
- Ou qu'ils ont des enfants petits, relativement incompatibles avec l'organisation chronométrée...
Dans ces deux cas, l'économie n'est pas alors forcément la raison première de leur choix. C'est donc également important pour ces excursionnistes là de savoir où trouver un taxi, où manger... Ca fait gagner du temps, de savoir à l'avance...
C'est ce qui fait la richesse de notre forum : chaque type de croisiériste, et à l'intérieur, chaque type d'excursionniste (tiens, ça pourrait faire un nouveau fil, ça.. 😉 ), y trouve des renseignements qui lui seront utiles. 🙂 Et zappe (ou lit d'un oeil plus distrait) ceux qui ne le concernent pas directement.
Eh bien, moi je pense que plus les croisières se démocratiseront, plus il y aura des gens relativement modestes à bord, moins Costa et autres vendront leurs excursions chères, c'est certainement d'ailleurs ce phénomène qui a causé la perte d'Easy Cruise low cost, trop low cost sans doute.
Ben c'est pas "Costa et autres" qui vendent les excursions, ce sont les tour-opérators locaux... APrès Costa et autres appliquent juste une marge, qui à ma connaissance ne dépasse pas 40% à 50% (ce qui n'est pas abusif, dans l'hôtellerie en général). Ce que le tour opérator vend 50 euros (prix que tu vas payer si tu réussis à monter à maintenir et à gérer un groupe de 50 personnes, ce qui n'est pas simple 🤪 et fait un car à 2500 euros, chauffeur et guide compris), Costa le revend 70 ou 75... (mais bon, lui, comme il en achète beaucoup, l'achète peut-être à 45... )
Donc ça pourra jamais descendre en dessous de ce que vend le TO... Et comme il y a plus de demande que d'offre (et ça va pas s'améliorer si le nombre de paquebots augmente) y aucune raison que les prix baissent...
Après, la "démocratisation" des croisières est un mot à la mode (encore que j'aie jamais bien compris ce qu'il recouvre), mais là encore y aura forcément une limite... Parce que descendre trop risque de faire fuir le segment de clientèle "moyen-supérieur" (le segment "supérieur" ne fréquent sans doute déjà pas les bateaux Costa)... Ce n'est plus, surtout avec une certaine clientèle du sud de l'Italie, alléchée par une semaine à 250 euros, compatible, en termes de moeurs et de savoir-vivre, avec la clientèle *même modeste* de France ou d'Allemagne, surtout sur un bateau en "classe unique"... j'en ai fait une fois la sinistre expérience (Victoria sept 2007)... (règle numéro 1 : ne plus jamais embarquer à Rome... 🤪 😉)
Quant au Low Cost, en matière de croisière, effectivement, ça voudrait dire : le touriste est logé (presque) comme l'équipage. Cabines de 3, 10 m²... et dans un décor tel qu'on peut le voir quand une porte équipage est par hasard ouverte... et là, sauf pour les "baroudeurs", je ne suis pas sûr que ça plaise... et rien qui ne soit pas "payant"... C'est d'ailleurs à ça que ressemblait Easy Cruises
D'ailleurs Costa ne cherche nullement à "démocratiser" les croisières, il cherche juste, comme tout entreprise, où peut se trouver sa rentabilité maximale... Pas dans le moyen-haut de gamme, a-t-il décidé, mais je ne pense pas non plus qu'il aille vers le low-cost... la croisière dans sa définition actuelle (et le "rêve" que chacun peut en avoir) exige trop de "service" par rapport au produit vendu lui-même pour que le low-cost soit envisageable...
Enfin, c 'est juste mon avis... mais si je suis prêt à investir dans le "Nouveau France" (si tant est qu'il me reste quelque chose avec le joli plongeon actuel 😕🤪), j'investis pas dans une compagnie de bateau low-cost...
Je crois que vos propos s'éloignent beaucoup du thème "Excursion à Rome" la démocratisation des croisières est je pense un tout autre débat dont nous pourrions parler dans 1 autre forum.
Ah... c'est un des défauts (des habitués) de ce forum (le forum lui-même n'y est pour rien 😉), forum sur lequel on a pourtant tellement de plaisir à être... 🙂
Parfois, on dérive, on refait le monde, ou on parle de tout et de rien...
On essaie de ne pas trop... On fait avec...
Regarde, Mathilde, là, elle a jamais fait de croisière de sa vie et n'en fera jamais, mais elle est au top pour apporter des renseignements concrets et précis sur tout ce qui se passe "à terre"...
Y en a d'autres qui rêvent de voyager en malle... 😉😉
Un forum ou tout le monde est sérieux (et dans le fil du fil) 100% du temps, c'est rare, et c'est sûr, c'est pas ici... 😎 et puis, ne serait-ce pas un peu triste ?
Mais un forum qui apporte *autant* de réponse *utiles* à des gens qui viennent "à la pêche du renseignement", (ici, souvent pour organiser leur première croisière), j'en connais pas beaucoup d'autres que celui-ci... 😇
Cher Pap86
Ceci est 1 message public que j'adresse à tous par votre intermédiaire car tout comme moi vous semblez posséder une certaine philosophie et expérience du voyage. Donc ne voyez en mes propos aucune "attaque personnelle" bien au contraire!
Vous vous souvenez qu'en janvier, février, mars derniers le changement d'escales de la croisière "Retour en terre sainte" avait fait couler beaucoup d'encre sur ce forum et sur ce sujet il y avait matière.
J'ai l'impression que le sujet "Excursion à Rome" qui me paraît moins conséquent que celui cité ci dessus prend des proportions qui ne se justifient pas ! Que de polémiques stériles ! Que d'animosité je ressens au travers des propos des 1 et des autres.
Il me semblait que ce forum était simplement 1 lieu ou chacun faisait partager ses expériences heureuses ou malheureuses afin que tous les participants à cet espace d'expression puissent en tirer des enseignements pour leurs futurs projets de voyages.
Les voyages quel qu’ils soient sont une fabuleuse et très enrichissante aventure humaine mais ou le risque zéro, comme pour les autres domaines de notre vie, n’existe pas ! Acceptons tous cette réalité ou alors restons sagement dans notre lit en lisant GEO ou toutes autres revues nous dépaysant sans grand danger pour nous même.
Au plaisir de vous lire pour échange constructif d'expérience.
oui vous avez raison, le sujet dérive et snous nous éloignons des premières demandes qui étaient de faire l'excursion à Rome avec transport en train et sans rater tout simplement le retour car apparemment la gare était immense!!!!!!!!de toutes façons beaucoup ont apporté de bons renseignements et nous avons finalement décidé de prendre le bus costa pour liberté dans Rome ainsi nous n'aurons pas le stress de le rater le soir merci à tous
Bonjour
Je pense que vous avez choisi la solution de la sagesse et de l'anti stress! Entre le prix du train et le car Costa il y a 20 E de différence par personne!
A mon avis le confort et la tranquillité d'esprit valent bien 20 E.
Bon voyage
ah oui je comprenais pas l'histoire des 20 Euros, parce qu'avec MSC c'est pas 20 Euros d'écart mais 35! (donc multiplié par 2, on n'est plus dans les mêmes sphères...)
Just back from our first cruise on the Renaissance, and I’d like to share a few thoughts about life on board. Our feelings are mixed—we wanted a change after several MSC cruises, but the value for money on this repositioning cruise left us torn.
After taking advantage of successive promotions, we finally secured a well-located balcony cabin for 2600 € (almost 50% off the brochure rate). Given the amenities and the ship’s age, this now feels like the absolute maximum we’d pay for that period.
Overall, we were happy with our vacation on board, but a few details—when added up—left us with a somewhat mixed impression.
The pros:
- Ship size
- Reasonable noise levels, except in the restaurants (aside from the covered pool area)
- Spacious balcony cabin (20 + 5 m²) with plenty of storage and a bathtub with jets
- Understated, tasteful decor
- French language spoken on board
- Friendly staff for the most part
- 100% French-speaking clientele
- Decent food with French dishes (even with an Indian chef)
- Tables for two available (though the ship was full, so no changes possible)
- Some high-quality shows, thanks to an excellent English-speaking troupe
- Interesting lectures (especially on history and cetaceans)
The cons:
- Unreliable air conditioning in common areas (you’d go from a freezing lounge to a hot one, as if the system only worked in certain spaces at certain times)
- Aging ship with a few glitches (noises, AC, toilet flushes, lights) reported at reception (luckily, our only issue was the bathroom door not closing...)
- Industrial, thawed-out bread and pastries (a letdown for a ship with a French image)
- Limited fruit selection (often just apples and watermelon/melon) and not much variety in vegetables
- Worn, sometimes stained restaurant towels
We’re not ruling out another cruise on the Renaissance—their itineraries are unique—but only at a very competitive price.
Hi, we're heading to Venice soon. We have a hotel in Mestre and we'd like to know which bus can take us from the Mestre hotel to Marghera Port. Thanks.
Hi everyone ...
We’re planning to do the 83-day Cunard cruise ...
departing from Southampton on January 10, 2027 aboard the Queen Anne ...
has anyone done it ... or have any info ... or tips ...
for example ... deck and cabin choices ... drink packages ... excursions ... etc.
... anything good to know about this ship???
Thanks everyone ...
Hi there,
Here’s the 2027 cruise schedule.
It’s a great way to get ideas and maybe even meet up with other members!
2 essential rules:
1) Never "quote" the schedule when replying—this avoids any confusion.
2) Follow this format:
DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port
DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry about that. IMPORTANT Please respect the templates!
PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE HAVING TROUBLE
DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port
DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF 2027 CRUISES: 1
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14/01 - poupou10 / AZAMARA JOURNEY / 74 days / South America Tour / Miami
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Hi there,
I’m looking for an all-inclusive Nile cruise on a comfortable boat with as few passengers as possible.
Which tour operator can you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
I’m about to book the panoramic suite, and I’m not sure whether I should go for the one at the front of the ship or the one at the back. I’d really appreciate any feedback—anyone who’s already booked this kind of suite and can share the pros and cons?
Hi,
We’ll be visiting Barcelona for the first time on our upcoming cruise.
I was wondering if it’s better to book a taxi in advance to get from the train station to the cruise terminal, since there’ll be four of us. Are there enough taxis around that we won’t have to wait too long?
For the return trip, same question—are there enough taxis, since we have a flight to catch? Though I doubt we’ll know in advance which terminal we’ll dock at.
I came across this site below—has anyone heard of it?
https://taxibarcelona.taxi/fr/
hi there
Here’s the cruise schedule for 2026.
It’s a great way to get ideas and maybe even meet up with other members.
2 essential rules:
1) never "quote" the calendar when replying—this’ll avoid any confusion
2) follow the format below
DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port
DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry!PLEASE respect the templates!
COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE STRUGGLING
DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port
DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF CRUISES 2026:
JANUARY
FEBRUARY
MARCH
APRIL
MAY
JUNE
JULY
AUGUST
SEPTEMBER
OCTOBER
NOVEMBER
DECEMBER
Hi everyone, we're going on a week-long cruise and I have a question: can we travel by train and on a cruise with small refrigerated injectable syringes?
Do we need to complete any formalities?
And how should we store them?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I'm considering a cruise on the Hurtigruten Coastal Express from Bergen to Kirkenes and back to Bergen over 11 days in mid-March 2027.
Has anyone already done this trip?
I think it’s a great way to discover the Norwegian coast with the chance to see magnificent northern lights, but isn’t the trip a bit *too* long?
There are about thirty stops, but most last only a few minutes, with just one daily stop of over 2 hours, which gives a quick glimpse of a few towns but doesn’t allow for a full excursion.
Is the supplement for an outside cabin with a porthole (800 € for 2!) really worth it?
It’s more pleasant than an inside cabin, but do you spend enough time in your cabin to make the most of it?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this journey.
Best regards.
Hi everyone! I’m used to sailing on a sailboat with two or three people—it’s amazing. But I’d love to try the experience of a cruise. Just to clarify, I’ll be going alone. My first question: are there other solo travelers on these cruises, or is it mostly couples and families?
For a first cruise, I’d prefer a short one (maximum 8 days). Do those exist? And on the smallest boat possible. I live in Marseille, so a departure from Marseille would work, but I’m open to other ports too. If you have a cruise line to recommend and a destination you’ve enjoyed, or if you’ve had a great experience on a more intimate-sized ship, I’d love to hear about it!
We’re looking for a group of people available to share an excursion to the Trollstigen (Trolls’ Road).
We’ve contacted a local provider who’s offering us the following rates:
- 6,325 NOK for 4 people
- 6,874 NOK for 5 to 8 people
Don’t hesitate to get in touch if you’d like to discuss!
Happy planning to everyone! !
We just returned from a cruise from 08/13/26 to 08/20/26 on the MSC ORCHESTRA with stops in Tarragona, Valencia, Livorno, Civitavecchia, Genoa, and back to Marseille.
The ship was fully booked. Deck chairs were already occupied by beach towels early in the morning, and there were only 1 or 2 people in the pools... However, on the day the Italians disembarked, there were very few towels on the deck chairs.
We found the Italians less talkative.
We had a balcony cabin on deck 9, starboard side. The cabin was spacious, but the sofa was facing the desk, making it a pain to watch TV (neck strain guaranteed). So, we changed the sofa’s orientation to face the TV (we put it back in place on disembarkation day).
There were 325 French speakers on board, and a lot of staff from Mauritius, which made communication easier.
No annoying announcements about bingo, etc.—a nice change from COSTA.
For dinner, we were at the first sitting at 7:45 PM, at a table for 6. On the first night, we were two "gray-haired" couples at the table. The second night, two young women joined us but asked to change tables after seeing us...
The show for our dinner time was at 10:15 PM and ended around 11:00 PM. We found that a bit late for us. The shows were varied and of good quality.
The restaurant menus offered plenty of choices, but at the buffet at lunchtime, there were a lot of dishes with quite a few carbs. Afternoon tea from 4:30 PM to 5:30 PM included some great pastries, among other things.
We had an issue with the air conditioning and bad odors in the cabin one afternoon. I reported the problem to the reception, and staff along with our cabin steward came to check the cabin. The issue was resolved that same afternoon.
Two days later, we were surprised to find a bag with items inside: 2 MSC mugs and 2 MSC thermos flasks that keep drinks hot or cold for 10 hours. It was a gift from customer service following the bad odors in our cabin. We weren’t expecting this at all and thanked MSC’s customer service.
For excursions, MSC always offers port-to-city-center transfers for 14 € per adult in Valencia and Tarragona, and 12 € per child. In Livorno, it was 10 € per adult and 7 € per child.
In Civitavecchia, there was a shuttle to the train station for 6 €.
On the MSC for Me app, there were "promotions" on certain excursions.
We really enjoyed this cruise, but we couldn’t revisit some stops (Tarragona and Valencia) on our own because it was too hot.
Great evening: Mum49
We're leaving on August 25th for a Danube cruise from Vienna to Bucharest. The travel agency refuses to postpone this cruise despite navigation changes due to the exceptional drought, which include bus transfers that don’t interest us.
Have you had any experiences with this that you’d like to share?
Hi there!
I’m going on a cruise with MSC on the World Europa this coming October.
Stops: Genoa, Naples, Messina, Malta.
Has anyone visited Mount Etna and Pompeii?
Could you share some tips for each of these stops?
I’d like to explore on my own without booking the ship’s excursions.
Thanks for your advice!
Hello!
After a lot of hesitation between different cruise lines (Explora, Oceania, YC, HAL, NCL) and several destinations like Norway, Ireland, and Iceland,
I finally chose NCL’s Star for Iceland.
I had already looked at this itinerary when I went to Scotland in April with CFC, but it was really expensive.
You should know that CFC often offers last-minute deals 45 days before departure (the point when you can no longer cancel or modify).
So, I got a great opportunity and grabbed it.
Departure is on August 23rd.
Hi everyone,
I’m staying in a suite on the Pacifica in October and I can’t find any details about the suite benefits beyond the elite restaurant, the butler, and the espresso machine.
What about breakfast and meals served free in the cabin, and the spa?
Costa’s been cutting back on perks for Gold members, and it seems like suites are next.
Thanks for your replies!
Hello,
We’re back from this cruise.
Boarding in Dunkirk: The doors opened around 12 PM. Since we were a bit early, I asked if my husband, who uses a walker, could wait inside instead of outside. I left him with the two suitcases and our two backpacks in the small hall while I parked the car in the reserved CFC parking lot for 10 € per day.
The shuttle that was supposed to take people from the parking lot to the model pavilion was supposed to arrive in 5 minutes, but after 15 minutes, nothing. After waiting 15 minutes, I saw a man walking and asked if I could follow him. In 15 minutes, we arrived, and still no sign of the shuttle—it must have passed us. Arrived at the model pavilion.
My husband had already checked in the suitcases with the help of a CFC staff member. The remaining formalities were completed quickly. We were on board by 12:15 PM. Headed to the buffet on deck 11 and waited in a lounge to access our cabin.
At 2 PM, we discovered our balcony cabin on deck 9 at the rear: spacious with a large balcony compared to MSC/COSTA.
Since we were at the rear, cabin 9202, there was always an issue with elevator number 4: "priority."
Elevator number 2 stops at deck 10... and elevator number 3 was often out of order, leaving only number 1 for those with mobility issues to reach the buffet, especially for people who struggle with stairs. Note: only one child on board and lots of "gray hair."
DAY 2: At sea. Lots of activities offered.
Day 3: GOTHENBURG (Sweden). Sunny, 19°C at 11 AM.
Excursion booked with CFC: Gothenburg and Haga for all.
Interesting visit with a great guide. The HAGA district, in our opinion, is full of cobblestones and nothing special, not suitable for people using a cane or wheelchair. Elevator number 3 was out of order again.
Day 4: Copenhagen. 15°C in the morning, showers in the afternoon.
We didn’t book an excursion since we’d already stopped here with CFC in 2025, and based on advice from this forum, we took the hop-on/hop-off bus right in front of the ship. I still went to see the Little Mermaid again.
No TV, but the elevator was fixed.
DAY 5: At sea. Still no TV.
DAY 6: GDANSK (Poland). 15°C, rain all day.
There’s a shuttle to get to the city center.
We took the excursion: Panorama of Gdansk.
The guide left us at the entrance of the city center for 45 minutes, telling us what to visit. Meet-up for the rest of the tour at 3 PM. The bus left at 3:15 PM to cover 10 km to see St. Mary’s Cathedral. We arrived at 4:16 PM... The guide said there are often traffic jams in that direction. We had 10 minutes on site before heading to see the lighthouse and the Westerplatte monument, where we also had 10 minutes.
Many of us wondered why we didn’t do the tour in the opposite direction since they knew there would be traffic...
I went to reception to complain about the organization. The staff member read me the program: we were supposed to start with the lighthouse, then go to the cathedral and stay for 30 minutes before heading to the center of Gdansk for a short guided walk with some free time to buy souvenirs, etc.
The guide did the complete opposite of what was planned and didn’t even give us a guided tour—just dropped us off in the city...
DAY 7: Bornholm Island (Denmark). 14°C, a few sunny spells.
We saw in the excursions that there was a walking tour of RØNNE. So, like many others, we explored on our own. There was a small orchestra welcoming us at the port and two people with city maps. We took the shuttle to leave the port—it ran every 15 minutes. The tourist office was next to the "shuttle bus." A pleasant visit at our own pace.
DAY 8: KIEL (Germany). 18–23°C, nice weather.
We took the "Kiel for all" excursion. Great guide and interesting visits.
The port is in the city, and in 10 minutes, we were in the city center by following a blue line on the ground from the port. Elevator 3 was stuck again... and the TV was back.
DAY 9: At sea. Elevator 3 works.
DAY 10: At sea. Elevator 3 is out of order again...
DAY 11: Disembarkation in Dunkirk.
Cabins had to be vacated by 7:30 AM. Buffet open until 9 AM.
Elevator number 1 was "reserved," leaving only number 2, which doesn’t go up to deck 11... a problem for people with mobility issues who had to cross the entire deck 11 and try to use one of the four working elevators at the front, which were crowded.
My opinion: Interesting stops.
The onboard staff were always welcoming, smiling, and mostly French-speaking.
Evening shows were better than in March/April 2025—better singers, dancers, and presenters, and the costumes were improved.
I liked the "magician" shows less.
There were three onboard lectures by a very cultured person, but they went off-topic and were too historical for my taste. I didn’t attend the other two; my husband went to the second but not the third.
For this cruise, there was a bridge theme, but we’re not players or interested.
We didn’t take a drink package on board—water, coffee, tea, and herbal teas were available.
We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by.
Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car.
Guylène
We’re taking an MSC cruise in May, and after the Cinque Terre, we’ll be stopping in Naples. We’d like to know if it’s possible to walk out of the port quickly and reach a nice area of Naples on foot (we’re two older people). While we’re at it, I’ll ask the same question for Palermo, since we’ll be there the next day. Thanks for your replies.
hi,
I’m leaving Hamburg for Iceland at the end of July. The boat arrives in Reykjavik on Tuesday, August 4th at 8 AM, and I’d like to book a day trip like the Golden Circle or Secret Lagoon… The sites like GetYourGuide and others list departures at 8 AM. If you’ve used these sites with the MSC Preziosa, could you let me know how to go about it?
Thanks! 😉
allyMB007