Alors voilà, avec mon mari nous allons en indonésie du 7 sept au 22 septembre 2013.
Du 7 au 17 nous serons a Bali (nous en profiterons pour passer 2 nuits aux iles Gili).
La seule chose qui m'embête pour le moment c'est après, nous voudrions faire Ijen - Bromo- YogyakartaMais a priori pour aller a Yogyakarta de Bromo, il faut passer par Surabaya.
voici les étapes que je compte faire, dites moi si ce sera trop la course ou si ce ne sera pas possible a cause des transports. Je ne me rends pas bien compte des distances.
17 septembre: check-out de l'hôtel a Munduk puis depart pour Ketapang pour prendre le ferry vers Gilimanuk
Nuit a Banyuwang
18 septembre: Départ a 4h du matin pour ascension du Kawah Ijen.
Puis direction Probolinggo.
Nuit a Probolinggo.
19 septembre: Départ a 4h du matin en jeep pour Penanjakan pour assister au lever du jour du sommet du mont Panajakan, puis le Bromo et ascension du Bromo.
Puis direction Surabaya pour le train
(depart 17:15) à destination de Yogyakarta (arrivee 21:56)
nuit a Yogyakarta
20 septembre: visite du Palais du Sultan + marché aux oiseaux
nuit a Yogyakarta
21 septembre: visite Candi Borobudur +volcan Mérapi
nuit a Yogyakarta
22 septembre: visite de la ville puis départ aéroport pour prendre notre vol de retour à destination de Singapour (depart 14:50)
pour l'instant je n'ai pas du tout trouvé les hôtels sur java, mais je voudrais être certaine du programme avant de faire des reservations. Je suppose que les jeeps pour les volcans nous pourrons les réserver via les hotels. Ou peut être auriez vous des contacts que je pourrais utiliser ?
Hello,
Pour ta journée du 17 septembre je pense que tu as voulu dire départ pour Gilimanuk afin de prendre le ferry pour Ketapang...
Si tu dors dans le centre de Banyuwangi je te conseille de partir un peu plus tôt que 4 heures du matin, en effet, si tu arrives trop tard à l'intérieur du volcan le vent du petit matin risque d'avoir tourné et tu risques de te prendre beaucoup plus de fumée à l'intérieur du cratère (Si tu comptes descendre dans le cratère bien sûr...)
Malheureusement je en sais t'aider que pour cette partie là..
oui pardon, je voulais en effet dire départ pour Gilimanuk afin de prendre le ferry pour Ketapang.
Je compte passer la nuit a Banyuwangi pour le lendemain partir a Ijen. Mais je me demandais si en fait il ne serait aussi bien d'y aller vers 9h ou 10h du matin, monter avec les porteurs de soufre et decouvrir le "petit lac".
etant donné que je compte voir le lever du soleil pour Bromo, peut être que ce n'est pas la peine de se réveiller a 3h du mat 2 jours de suite..
Qu'en pensez vous ?
Je voulais aussi savoir si certains d'entre vous conaitriez un hôtel a Banyuwangi et un autre a Probolinggo ?
Est-il facile de trouver un transport au départ de ces deux villes pour aller sur les volcans ? Je n'ai pas trop envie de passer par un tour ou circuit. J'ai contacté quelques guides, donc un que j'ai eu sur ce forum (Aidey) mais je n'ai pas eu de reponses...
J'ai vu aussi sur un post qu'il est possible de louer une voiture depuis Probolinggo pour 90 000. Est-ce que les routes sont bien et la conduite safe dans ce coin ?
Bonjour,
j'ai fait d'experience de cette progrmme, donc je vous conseille en detail :
17 septembre: check-out de l'hôtel a Munduk puis depart pour Ketapang pour prendre le ferry vers Gilimanuk
Nuit a Banyuwang , hotel a ketapang beach hotel, puis vous reserver le jeep et preparer a petite dejeuner vers a 3.30
18 septembre: Départ a 4h du matin pour ascension du Kawah Ijen, retour a l'hotel et continue a Probolimggo
Puis direction Probolinggo.
Nuit a Probolinggo. a Yoshi hotel
19 septembre: Départ a 4h du matin en jeep pour Penanjakan pour assister au lever du jour du sommet du mont Panajakan, puis le Bromo et ascension du Bromo.
Puis direction Surabaya pour le train ( pour cette service du Jeep et voiture / transport nous pouvons vous aider , contacter nurudininfo@yahoo.com)
(depart 17:15) à destination de Yogyakarta (arrivee 21:56)
nuit a Yogyakarta
20 septembre: visite du Palais du Sultan + marché aux oiseaux
nuit a Yogyakarta , nuit a Bladok hotel
21 septembre: visite Candi Borobudur +volcan Mérapi
nuit a Yogyakarta nuit a Bladok hotel
22 septembre: visite de la ville puis départ aéroport pour prendre notre vol de retour à destination de Singapour (depart 14:50)
vous pouver contacter : nurudininfo@yahoo.com
merci
Merci pour votre reponse, malheureusement je n'ai pu la lire qu'aujourd'hui du coup je n'ai pas pu suivre votre conseil.
mais nous avons quand meme bien apprecie notre tour.
Nous avons marche au Bromo et n'avons pas prit de jeep du tout. C'etait magnifique et nous n'avons pas eu la foule de touriste.
Nous avons vu le lever du soleil sur la platforme 2. Nous etions seulement 10 personnes. On a prit des tas de photos c'etait genial.
Je conseille vivement de faire la marche car cela ne nous a prit que 45 min et ce n'etait pas difficile du tout. A des moments quelques montées mais rien de bien méchant. Enfait c'etait un reel plaisir pour nous de faire cette marche dans la nuit avec notre guide.
Merci encore pour vos infos, c'est très gentil de votre part !
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire votre message en rapport à votre voyage sur Bali et Java l'année dernière.
Je voulais juste profiter de votre expérience car je me pose un peu les mêmes questions par rapport au parcours Bali-Ijen-Bromo-Surabya -Yogyakarta. Donc merci par avance pour votre aide !🙂
Nous (un couple et 2 filles de 10 et 13 ans) allons visiter Bali et Java en juillet/août. Premier voyage en Asie !🙂
Nous commençons par Bali (environ 12/15 jours), avant de prendre le ferry entre Bali et Java pour enchainer le Kawah Ijen et le Bromo pour aller ensuite à Surabaya. De là nous envisageons de prendre le train pour finir notre périple 2 ou 3 jours sur Yogyakarta.
Selon vous :
1) peut-on prendre le ferry le matin à Bali pour visiter le Kawah Ijen et aller dormir au pied du Bromo dans la même journée ? (ce qui nous met sur place pour départ tôt le lendemain matin pour voir le lever de soleil sur le Bromo).
2) après la visite du Bromo, combien de temps pour se rendre à Surabaya ?
3) est-ce intéressant de prendre un train de nuit pour relier Surabaya à Yogyakarta ? quelle durée ? quel prix ? peut-on arriver à dormir ? (on n'est pas trop balloté ?). Avez-vous pris ce moyen de transport ?
4) un conseil pour les hébergements du côté du Ijen et du Bromo ?
Je précise qu'on envisage probablement de prendre un chauffeur-guide pendant notre séjour de Bali jusqu'au Bromo (voire Surabaya). Je suis d'ailleurs preneur de coordonnées de chauffeur-guide compétents et sérieux (anglophone ou francophone). Pouvez-vous nous conseiller ?
Je ne sais répondre qu'à votre première question mais pour avoir fait ce trajet je ne pense pas que ce soit trop réaliste. EN effet, l'intérêt du Kawa Ijen c'est d'y aller très très tôt le matin (4h) car cela permet de voir le lever du soleil et de grimper tant que la chaleur n'est pas encore trop lourde. De plus, si vous voulez descendre dans le volcan la fumée prend le plus souvent la direction du lac le matin et pas celle du chemin qui permet de descendre dans le cratère.
Je pense qu'il est donc préférable de dormir au pied du volcan, le jour de votre ascension.😉
Bonjour
pour la question 4, au pied du Kawa il n'y a rien . A 45 min du pied du KawaIjen (village le + proche), on a dormi a la plantation de café PTPN a Sempol qui loue qqs chambres. C'est simple, propre et bien situé : on peut se ballader dans le petit village a coté (tres sympa) ou au milieu des caféiers. En + ça sent le café torrifié et c'est tres agréable : seul hic le lever a 3-4h du mat ne permet pas d'avoir du bon café .... un comble ! Au Bromo il y a pas mal de possibilités a tous les prix c'est + simple
1) moi j'ai pris le Ferry dans la matinée puis nous avons dormi à Banyuwangi.
Je conseille de prendre un hotel plus proche de Ijen et de lui demander de venir vous chercher au Ferry.
Pour l'hotel, j'ai des amis sont allé dans la plantation de café et ont trouvé sympa. Vous pouvez toujours prendre un guide et lui demander de venir vous chercher au Ferry terminal.
Je suis passée par les services de Aidey (travelife.tour@yahoo.com)
Cela m'a couté Rp. 3.400.000 pour la nuit au Bromo Pernai + guide Ijen et Bromo + chauffeur les 2 jours + les billets de train pour Surabaya/Yogyakarta. Leur prestation commencait le matin du mont Ijen, le chauffeur est venu nous chercher à l'hôtel très tôt le matin (4h je crois).
Honêtement ils ont pris les billets a la denière minute dans un supermarché, donc je vous conseille de faire cela vous même comme ça vous choisissez votre classe et ca sera moins cher. Sans les billets il me proposait 3.000.000 Rp
Par contre, un truc que je n'ai pas trop apprecié, c'est qu'il était supposé être notre guide tout le long et à la dernière minute j'ai appris qu'en fait ce serait un autre (à Ijen il était nul, il ne parlait pas anglais du tout) mais par contre à Bromo il était génial. Mais il a tennu a nous rencontré lorsque nous étions a Jogyakarta et il était sympa. ]Mis a part ça, je l'ai trouvé sérieux. Il a suivit exactement à la lettre ce que je voulais.
Pour le Tour de Bromo, demandez à aller à la platforme, pananjakan 2 c'est carrement moins touristique et super beau. Nous y sommes allés à pied vers 3h du mat, on voyait toutes les jeeps c'était effrayant.Comme je disais, Aidey n'était pas dispo alors c'est Abi qui nous a guidé. Il était top, voici son email si vous voulez le contacter directement abi.sukirno@yahoo.com. Il peut peut être aussi faire Ijen.
En tout cas, après le levé du soleil sublime, nous sommes redescendus et avons traversé la mer de sable à pied. Super experience, paysage lunaire et c'était interessant de voir le givre sur le sol. Incroyable !!
ah et j'ai oublié de dire aussi que la veille, Abi nous a emené voir le coucher du soleil, via un petit chemin, pas un seul touriste, c'était magnifique (je me demande même si je n'ai pas préféré le coucher au levé)
2) Bromo>Surabaya, cela nous a prit 5h. Mais je suppose qu'avec les traffics ca peut aller jusqu'a 6h. Nous avions quitté l'hôtel vers 9h.
3) Surabaya à Yogyakarta il y en a eu pour 4h-5h je crois. J'ai dormi tout le long, on est arrivé vers 21h à Yogyakarta, un gars de l'hôtel est venu nous chercher à la gare, on a mangé a l'hotel (tres bon) puis au lit ! On etait creves. Mais au moins le lendemain on etait frais pour refaire les visites. alros je pense que c'est mieux de dormir dans un bon lit que dans le train.. surtout après 2 nuits consecutives où il a fallu se lever très tôt.
4) hotel à Ijen : je n'ai pas aimé ou nous étions. Des amis ont dit que celui de la plantation de Café PTPN était bien.
hotel à Bromo : Bromo Pernai est pas mal, bon ce n'est pas le luxe mais il y a une très jolie vue sur le Mont Bromo et le chemin pour le coucher du soleil est juste à coté. Les repas sont corrects. La chambre est propre, la douche moyenne mais bon, pour 1 nuit ça va.
hotel à Yogyakarta : wisma Ary's hotel
http://www.wismaarys.com/
reservation@wismaarys.com
super hotel tenu par un indonésien artiste et sa femme est japonnaise. Ils nous ont reservé les places pour voir le spectacle de ballet a Prabanam. tip top. Le petit dej est très copieux (buffet) et bien bon. Ils servent aussi de bons plats de soir, bonne ambiance et surtout il est très bien situé. Ils ont leur chauffeur de tuk-tuk, qui est très gentil. Il nous a baladé dans la ville, c'était génial.
Ils viennent vous chercher gratuitement à la gare :) Je recommande cet hôtel.
Ils proposent aussi un day trip pour faire Borobudur/Prabanam (1h de route entre les deux). Tu payes tout à l'hôtel directement et ils se chargent d'acheter les billets pour toi. Leur tarifs entree sont les même que sur place, ils ne prennent pas de comission dessus et ça évite de faire la queue. Je suppose qu'ils se font de l'argent avec le chauffeur. En tout cas c'est pratique. Je repartierais volontiers chez eux.
N'oubliez pas de faire Borobutur vers 5h du mat (peu de touristes et super lumière) on y a passé 5h (oui on prend notre temps), et l'aprem nous avons visité un petit temple puis ensuite Prabanam (pour voir le coucher du soleil).
et a 19h30, nous sommes allé voir le ballet juste derrière le temple.
voila, j'espère avoir répondu à toutes les questions :)
Super ! Un grand merci Steph pour tes bons conseils !
Quelques questions complémentaires :si je comprends bien, dans ton forfait tu avais le transport en voiture entre le Bromo et Surabaya ?Et ton forfait à 3, 4 million, c'était pour combien de personnes ?Et celà englobait aussi les droits d'entrée sur les sites Ijen et Bromo ? (j'ai lu récemment que ces droits d'entrée allaient être - beaucoup - augmentés sur décision de l'administration indonésienne).Encore merci !😉
Amicalement.
Vincent
oui le forfait comprennait l'entree sur tous les sites, le chauffeur pour les 2 jours (Bromo jusqu'a Surabaya compris), l'essence, la chambre pour le chauffeur et le guide, les repas du chauffeur, la nuit au Bromo Pernai, le petit dej (qui en fait est dans le prix de la chambre) et cela etait pour 2 personnes.
Aidey est serieux et repond rapidement. On avait convenu de payer 50% a l'arrivee puis 50% a la fin.
la reponds de votre demande ;
1) peut-on prendre le ferry le matin à Bali pour visiter le Kawah Ijen et aller dormir au pied du Bromo dans la même journée ? (ce qui nous met sur place pour départ tôt le lendemain matin pour voir le lever de soleil sur le Bromo).
la derniere jour a Bali vous pouver rester s Pemuteran ( 30 minute au port pour aller a Ijen, donc vous pouvez aller le matin vers a 05.00 ou 06.00 puis prend le bateau, apres nous pouvons prens le car poue Ijen direct, transfer au Bromo, nuit a Cemoro lawang hotel Yoschi, puis apres lever du soleil rentre a l'hotel, transfer a Surabaya pour le train de nuit.3 heures de la route Bromo -Surabaya.le train vers 5 heures, arrive aYogyakarta preds le car pour circuit Yogyakarta. hotelDuta ou Delta .
c'est meux prend le transport de Ketapang pour toute lecircuit.
pour le programme ideal minimum 5 jours, et le taeif du transport 60 euro par jour, le jeep 40 euro pour ijen, et jeep bromo 30 euro.
pour lecircuit Bali a I jen , partirlematin, il ya ferry toutes 30 minutes, apresd'arivera Banyuwangi/ketapang prends letranspots a Ijen puis a Bromo, nuit a Bromo.arriverais vesr 20h.
merci
Bonjour :
1) peut-on prendre le ferry le matin à Bali pour visiter le Kawah Ijen et aller dormir au pied du Bromo dans la même journée ? (ce qui nous met sur place pour départ tôt le lendemain matin pour voir le lever de soleil sur le Bromo).
al'hoteldu Bromo reservezvous une 4X4 pour le lever du soleil.
2) après la visite du Bromo, combien de temps pour se rendre à Surabaya ?
on a besoin 3h de la route.
3) est-ce intéressant de prendre un train de nuit pour relier Surabaya à Yogyakarta ? quelle durée ? quel prix ? peut-on arriver à dormir ? (on n'est pas trop balloté ?). Avez-vous pris ce moyen de transport ?
pour le train Executifpossible a dormir, tarifvers 200 000, idr/person
4) un conseil pour les hébergements du côté du Ijen et du Bromo ?
hotel ketapang each hotel aIjen, et yoschi hotela Bromo
merci
Pour Bromo, vous y passez la nuit puis allez a la platforme 2 a pied pour admirer le lever du soleil.
Si vous allez en jeep, ce sera platforme 1 et vous auez une foule de monde. Des amis y sont allés et cela leur a gâché la vue car il y avait beaucoup trop de monde, il leur a été impossible de pouvoir prendre des photos. Un peu dommage.
Après vous faites ce que vous voulez...
1h de marche pour aller de l'hôtel a la platforme 2 ce n'est pas bien méchant. Puis la montée n'est pas hyper difficile.
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Bonjour
Apres 1 nuit à Khao Sok je souhaite trouver un package 2 Jours 1 nuit sur le lac.
Après avoir beaucoup lu, je décide de "casser la tirelire" et nous offrir un tour Privé surtout pour éviter les bains de foule.
Mais en contactant plusieurs opérators, on me propose des "private tours" très chers (env 700 €) mais dans les détails les bateaux ne peuvent que partir de l'embarcadère à 10h du mat comme tous les autres. (Moi j'espérais partir très tôt). Le programme du matin est le même pour tt le monde aussi (privé ou non). On nous dépose à Midi à notre hotel flottant (j'avais choisi le Phupha waree). Après midi libre (baignade ou kayak devant l'hotel. On resort en bateau pour le coucher de soleil 1h. Et le matin on quitte l'hotel à 8h pour être à l'embarcadere à 9h30 max FIN du voyage
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches.
J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Bonjour,
Je voulais avoir des informations sur le télépherique et le pont , je vois pleins d'options differentes ..
Combien de temps prévoir pour faire ces 2 activités ? Si on arrive vers 16h as t'on le temps de visiter sans courir?
Merci
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.