je sais que ca parait tres ambitieux et qu on risque de passer a coté de pas mal de truc, et surtout pas mal de temps dans les transports. mais on y va pour une premiere approche, on ne peut malheureusement pas avoir plus de vacance. et passer du temps dans les transports fait partie intégrante du voyage pour nous (notament le train entre pekin et lhassa). et le tibet nous attire beaucoup (peut etre auriez vous d autre régions un peu similaire a conseiler comme les zones du yunan, sichuan et gansu frontatliere au tibet). est ce que quelqu un sait si c est facile et pas trop cher d organiser un voyage lhassa-chengdu (ou autre ville du yunan ou du sichuan qui dessert shangai en train) avec une agence de voyage depuis lhassa? j immagine que tenter le coup avec les transports publics est juste impossible (surtout si on a des impératifs de temps). merci de vos réponse.
Itinéraire Chine-Tibet en été 2010
by Francois1980
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
de nouvelles questions et conseils a demander par rapport a notre voyage en chine de cet été.
je pars 20 jours avec ma copinne (fin juillet > mi-aout), et nous voulions éventuellement tenter d aller au tibet.
je pensais donc a l'itinéraire suivant :
- atterissage a pekin (3 jours sur place avec des amis y vivant).
- train jusque lhassa (48 heure de train, mais cela ne effraie pas plus que ca, au contraire, il parait que les derniers tronçons sont magnifiques).
- 7/8 jours au tibet (pas encore trop potassé sur ou aller, mais me fais pas trop de soucis, on va peut etre essayer sans guide, on verra sur place, dans tous les cas, on va prendre le permis, mais voir si on peut esquiver le pack guide/tour operator ou on le prendra sur place).
- retour par la route (avec tour operator?) jusque chengdu
- quelques jours a shangai (de chengdu a shangai par le train).
- retour a pekin pour prendre l avion et rentrer a paris.
je sais que ca parait tres ambitieux et qu on risque de passer a coté de pas mal de truc, et surtout pas mal de temps dans les transports. mais on y va pour une premiere approche, on ne peut malheureusement pas avoir plus de vacance. et passer du temps dans les transports fait partie intégrante du voyage pour nous (notament le train entre pekin et lhassa). et le tibet nous attire beaucoup (peut etre auriez vous d autre régions un peu similaire a conseiler comme les zones du yunan, sichuan et gansu frontatliere au tibet). est ce que quelqu un sait si c est facile et pas trop cher d organiser un voyage lhassa-chengdu (ou autre ville du yunan ou du sichuan qui dessert shangai en train) avec une agence de voyage depuis lhassa? j immagine que tenter le coup avec les transports publics est juste impossible (surtout si on a des impératifs de temps). merci de vos réponse.
je sais que ca parait tres ambitieux et qu on risque de passer a coté de pas mal de truc, et surtout pas mal de temps dans les transports. mais on y va pour une premiere approche, on ne peut malheureusement pas avoir plus de vacance. et passer du temps dans les transports fait partie intégrante du voyage pour nous (notament le train entre pekin et lhassa). et le tibet nous attire beaucoup (peut etre auriez vous d autre régions un peu similaire a conseiler comme les zones du yunan, sichuan et gansu frontatliere au tibet). est ce que quelqu un sait si c est facile et pas trop cher d organiser un voyage lhassa-chengdu (ou autre ville du yunan ou du sichuan qui dessert shangai en train) avec une agence de voyage depuis lhassa? j immagine que tenter le coup avec les transports publics est juste impossible (surtout si on a des impératifs de temps). merci de vos réponse.
j immagine que tenter le coup avec les transports publics est juste impossible (surtout si on a des impératifs de temps).
Tenter le coup par les transports en commun est effectivement peine perdue. Aucun chauffeur de bus ne vous laissera monter, il risquerait trop gros. Certains tronçons ne sont pas desservis par les bus de toute façon.
Tenter le coup par les transports en commun est effectivement peine perdue. Aucun chauffeur de bus ne vous laissera monter, il risquerait trop gros. Certains tronçons ne sont pas desservis par les bus de toute façon.
ok, merci de la reponse et du coup, a combien cela reviendrait il pensez vous et combien de temps cela prendrait il? rejoindre chengdu depuis lhassa?
L'idéal serait de contacter par mail plusieurs agences à Lhassa, elles vous enverraient des devis. Attendez-vous à des tarifs assez fous. En 2007 elles me demandaient toutes entre 2000 et 2500 euros pour 7 jours de trajet. Hors hébergement et hors repas.
L'idéal je pense serait de faire plutôt Chengdu Lhassa et retour train ou avion car par la route c'est hors de prix: guide+chauffeur+hotel pour tous etc...obligatoire avec permis
et vu comme les françouses sont bien vus par les autorités chinoises en ce moment, ça risque d'être encore plus compliqué !
La plus grande des misères est de ce sentir misérable
Proverbe tibétain
Je sais bien que les prix demandés par les agences sont pure folie. François souhaite avoir une idée des tarifs, je lui conseille donc de contacter des professionnels à Lhassa. Prendre les routes qui mènent à Chengdu ou à Zhongdian est une expérience unique, je comprends qu'on ait envie de la tenter. Ce sujet revient d'ailleurs régulièrement sur le forum.
ok, merci pour ces réponses précieuses. je vais essayer de contacter une agence et faire deviser ca.
mpui, pour répondre a ton post, j avais cru comprendre qu il etait assez compliqué de partir depuis chengdu au tibet car les autorités chinoises appréciait moyennement de voir les touristes passés par des coins reculés du tibet, et du coup, on retrouvait des groupes entiers de touristes a chengdu qui attendaient pendant plusieurs jours voir semaines leur papier pour partir. du coup, je pense qu on va tenter le coup dans l autre sens (depuis lhassa jusque chengdu), car ca a l air quand meme plus facile de sortir du tibet que d y rentrer. pour rentrer, nous essairons de le faire avec la ligne de train principale depuis pekin, j ai cru comprendre qu on aurait moin de probleme en y allant comme ca (c est du tout schuss jusque lhassa), apres, on aura peut etre des problemes en arrivant a lhassa, mais on verra bien...
et depuis zhongdian ou chengdu, combien de temps devons nous prevoir pour aller a shangai (j immagine en train depuis chengdu et en bus (zhongdai > kumming, puis kumming> shangai en train).
merci encore.
J'ai retrouvé le message que j'avais posté ici-même juste après avoir emprunté la route Lhassa - Zhongdian. On m'avait annoncé entre 1500 et 2000 euros en fait. Mea culpa 😊. Trop cher de toute façon. Tu excuseras les fautes et l'absence d'accents. Je ne garantis pas qu'il est toujours possible de trouver ce genre de bon plan. Illégal certes. Mais bon plan quand même. Rien ne t'empêche de te renseigner dans les agences ainsi que dans les hôtels une fois arrivé à Lhassa.
http://voyageforum.com/...ring=lhassa%20route;
Je souhaite juste apporter une petite modification. Lorsque j'écris que le fait de voyager en 4X4 induit l'achat de permis, je veux dire que la plupart des occidentaux qui empruntent cette route en 4X4 sont munis de ces permis. Il est donc très probable que les agents que nous avons croisés, nous voyant dans un 4X4, nous ont automatiquement crus porteurs de ces permis. Il leur a donc peut-être paru inutile de nous contrôler. Je ne sais pas si tout ceci est très clair... 🤪
http://voyageforum.com/...ring=lhassa%20route;
Je souhaite juste apporter une petite modification. Lorsque j'écris que le fait de voyager en 4X4 induit l'achat de permis, je veux dire que la plupart des occidentaux qui empruntent cette route en 4X4 sont munis de ces permis. Il est donc très probable que les agents que nous avons croisés, nous voyant dans un 4X4, nous ont automatiquement crus porteurs de ces permis. Il leur a donc peut-être paru inutile de nous contrôler. Je ne sais pas si tout ceci est très clair... 🤪
whoo, ca met l eau a la bouche. on se renseignera sur place du coup, mais j ai peur qu on manque de temps...
j essairais de faire un compte rendu en rentrant.
merci beaucoup pour ce témoignage.
ce n est vrai que si le chauffeur est tibetain...et comme la majorité des chauffeurs sont chinois...
essayez....vous verrez...
oliwen
essayez....vous verrez...
oliwen
ce n est vrai que si le chauffeur est tibetain...et comme la majorité des chauffeurs sont chinois...
essayez....vous verrez...
oliwen
A quel chauffeur fais-tu allusion ? Bus ou 4X4 ?
essayez....vous verrez...
oliwen
A quel chauffeur fais-tu allusion ? Bus ou 4X4 ?
les deux...
dans les pti bleds...y a toujours des44qui rodent...parfois, on peut meme les avoirs moins chers que les bus...ou au même prix...
mais allez aux bus...allez voir les prix dans le hall principal de la station et ensuit diriogez vous vers le bus, montez dedans...comme ca, souvent en chine, le prix est moin cher que le billet car cet argent va entierement dans la poche du chauffeur...hehe
salut
salut
Contrairement à toi, la plupart des personnes qui sont en recherche d'informations sur comment aller au Tibet n'ont jamais mis les pieds en Chine. Ils ne parlent pas couramment le chinois donc ne sont pas aptes à parlementer avec les fonctionnaires, chauffeurs ou hôteliers du coin. La maitrise de la langue t'ouvre des portes qui leur resteront bien souvent fermées.
oui, d accord avec toi, mais alors, le tibet c est choooooo...il risquent de perdre leur temps et leur argent...vo mieux alors qu ils se contentent d autres coins de chine////
si ils tiennsnt absolument a aller dans les provinces tibetaines, qu ils aillent dans l ouest du sichuan...apres chengdu et kanding (y a meme un aerooport la ) c est beau, sauvage et dans trop de tracas....
sinon il existe des tas de super coins en chine...ou au xinjiang..
ou qu ils aillent carrement au laddakh...ou au sikkim...hehe
je trouve sympa ton "surnom" marycurry marie curie.....marrant oliwen
je trouve sympa ton "surnom" marycurry marie curie.....marrant oliwen
pour les personnes qui n ont jamais mis le pied en chine, je pense qu un tel voyage est trop ambitieux...
moi même, qui ait fait mes etudes a pekin et vecu trois ans dans ce pays, au retour (depuis un mois) d'un an en indochine (ex francaise) j ai un peu de pal a me rehabituer a Shanghai...et je n etais pas loin...
un exemple: ma collegue FLE , qui est francaise et qui a enseignée en espagne et qu est arrivee a sH il y a aussi un mois pour le meme boulot, qui connait un peu le chinois vu qu son meGc est sinologue m a dit ceci : l environnement chinois est un environnement hostile pour le touriste et l etranger...a SHANGHAI...et je suis d accord avec elle...
la chine est un pays qui s apprivoise lentement ....ou pas. il n y a pas de demi mesure...
alors debarquer comme ca et vouloir aller au tibet direct, la ou s est le plus difficile...moi perso je le ferai pas, c est le meileur moyen pour detester a la fois la chine , les chinois, le tibet et les tibetains...
ici rien n est simple...rien n est verai ou faux...tout est vraix et faux a la fois...
moi même je prends un max d infios avant d aller au tibet et nepal...et pour dire vrais j en aurais pas besoin...tout les endroits qu ils faut connaitre pour ce voyage je les connais, mais je les connais selon ma logique d eurasien...pas selon la logique chinoise...et il se pourrait bien que la logique chinoise de maintenant ne soit plus celle d il y a un an ou deux...
et je ne parle pas du nepal dont je ne connais rien, si ce n est une ou deux adresses d auberges a katmandu...et les horzaires des bus depuis la frontiere... mais la , je pense qu on peut decouvrir sans illogismes logiques et sans logique illogique...on verra
oliwen
et je ne parle pas du nepal dont je ne connais rien, si ce n est une ou deux adresses d auberges a katmandu...et les horzaires des bus depuis la frontiere... mais la , je pense qu on peut decouvrir sans illogismes logiques et sans logique illogique...on verra
oliwen
Lucq, ne commence pas à décourager les gens en partance pour le Tibet, des tas de gens l'ont fait et d'autres le feront et c'est tant mieux et pour la Chine (buisness des GHouses) et pour les tibétains quand même ravis de voir des étrangers qui sont malgré tout acquis à leur cause et bien que le Tibet libre soit utopique en ce moment, ce seront les chinois qui décideront, je suis allé l'an dernier à Litang (Kham) en coup de vent en attente du permis pour Lhassa KTM et en garde un très bon souvenir: les jeunes tibétains des villes quittent leurs traditions et passent directement à la vie "occidentale" :portable, habits européens et pratique de l'anglais, c'est mon analyse, la scission est très nette et mis à part dans les campagnes reculées, le Tibet traditionnel est en perdition, hélas ou pas, chacun se fait son opinion
Quand au Népal, c'est une autre planète touristique incontournable.....
Tashi delek
Tashi delek
La plus grande des misères est de ce sentir misérable
Proverbe tibétain
oui, d accord avec toi, mais alors, le tibet c est choooooo...il risquent de perdre leur temps et leur argent...vo mieux alors qu ils se contentent d autres coins de chine////
Non. Seulement ce sera sûrement plus dans les clous que pour toi. Plus cher aussi. La plupart partent de toute façon en connaissance de cause.
Non. Seulement ce sera sûrement plus dans les clous que pour toi. Plus cher aussi. La plupart partent de toute façon en connaissance de cause.
oui; mais ce que tu decris la, ce n est pas la vie a l occidentale...c est la vie a la chinoise...les tibetains n ont aucune idée de la vie a l'occidentale...encore une fois la fallacieuse apparence des choses...
oliwen
Oliwen: la vie à la chinoise......ils copient notre style de vie donc CQFD le tibétains itou !
La plus grande des misères est de ce sentir misérable
Proverbe tibétain
ils copient...oui et non...toujours l apparence des choses, attention.
et en ce qui concerne les tibetains, ils ne vont certainement pas leur donner de modeles occidentaux.... .une petite ennecdote: cela t en dira long sur la chine et ses minorites ethniques.... dans les années 30, les ouighours (xinjiang-turkestan chinois) qui sont culturellement et linguistiquement apparentes aux turcs (ottomans) ont adoptes le même aplhabet sur base des lettres latines et en m^me temps que la Turquie d ATATURK...en remplacement de la calligraphie arabe...
vers le début des années 80, Deng Xiao Ping, le pionnier de l ouverture economique de la chine...vers ce qui commencait a etre la mondialisation, a fait revennir l alphabet du xinjiang aux lettres arabes de droite a gauche...car il estimait que cela donnait trop de facilités aux ouighours pour apprendre et lire des documents en anglais...
cela, au moment de la "porte ouverte"...
donc tu peux imaginer qu avec ce qui c est passé au tibet depuis 50 ans...il n est pas question d occidentalisation.... la tele tibetaine est en chinois...tout ce qui est important est en chinois...
ne pas se leurrer...seule la chine "influence" le tibet...
oliwen
et en ce qui concerne les tibetains, ils ne vont certainement pas leur donner de modeles occidentaux.... .une petite ennecdote: cela t en dira long sur la chine et ses minorites ethniques.... dans les années 30, les ouighours (xinjiang-turkestan chinois) qui sont culturellement et linguistiquement apparentes aux turcs (ottomans) ont adoptes le même aplhabet sur base des lettres latines et en m^me temps que la Turquie d ATATURK...en remplacement de la calligraphie arabe...
vers le début des années 80, Deng Xiao Ping, le pionnier de l ouverture economique de la chine...vers ce qui commencait a etre la mondialisation, a fait revennir l alphabet du xinjiang aux lettres arabes de droite a gauche...car il estimait que cela donnait trop de facilités aux ouighours pour apprendre et lire des documents en anglais...
cela, au moment de la "porte ouverte"...
donc tu peux imaginer qu avec ce qui c est passé au tibet depuis 50 ans...il n est pas question d occidentalisation.... la tele tibetaine est en chinois...tout ce qui est important est en chinois...
ne pas se leurrer...seule la chine "influence" le tibet...
oliwen
merci pour toutes ces réponses. a l heure qu il est, nous ne savons toujours pas si nous allons aller au tibet ou pas. ce qui est sur c est que nous atterissons a pekin, que nous y resterons quelques jours. j ai eu de nouveaux devis d agence un peu moin cher, 4500 y sans le train pour 7 jours tout compris par personnes pour deux (parcours classiques lhassa, shigaste, gyantse). j ai jusque vendredi pour donner une réponse (ca va dépendre de mon billet de train, une amie de pekin est en train d essayer de nous l acheter).
si jamais c est trop compliqué, nous irons surement au sichuan vers la frontiere tibetaine (des suggestions?), ou nous ferons la route xining-chengdu.
j essaierais de poster un compte rendu avec photo de tout ca a notre retour.
francois.
Bonjour, je vous écris du Tibet ou nous allons terminer notre séjour de 3 semaines dans 2 jours. Le train soft sleeper = 4 personnes dans une cabine fantastique de bons duvets et oreilles. Hard sleeper c'est aussi bien mais 6 personnes et pas de portes. Le Wagon restaurant présente une gamme de plats très bons. Vous êtes bien courageux de faire tout ça en si peu de temps. IMPOSSIBLE D'Y ALLER SANS GUIDE MEME à VELO. Il ne faut pas oublier que le Tibet est très haut en altitude et personne ne peut prédire si il va supporter. Nous avons rencontré des Français qui n'ont fait qu'un jour car elle à cru mourir à Lhasa ( arrivée en avion ) très mauvais. D'autres arrivés en train de bons alpinistes malades durant 4 jours à vomir les tripes. Nous avons eu quelques problèmes la première nuit à Lhasa grosse migraine, puis ensuite au lac Namtso 4'600m grosse migraine. Et la nuit on se réveil souvent avec l'impression d'avoir oublié de respirer. Par contre à EBC le camps de base de l'Everest 5'000m super. Dans l'ensemble on passe souvent des cols à plus de 5'000m le plus haut à 5'230m. Nous avons rencontré des Français et Allemand qui travaillent à Shenghaï avec 5 BMW et side-care de 1926 à 1930 ils se sont gelés, mais surtout ils ont passé un mauvais moment au camps de base, le matin tous sauf un étaient malades terrible et ils devaient reprendre les motos.
Impossible de faire le Tibet sans un guide, un 4x4 et un chauffeur ce qui nous a fait exploser notre budget. Et ici ça ne rigole pas avec les documents, notre guide en a toute une chemise pleine Nous faisons le tour du monde depuis le 10.10.07.
Nous avons eu la chance de faire notre visa à Kuala Lumpur et nous l'avons pour 2 ans multiples entrées et séjour de 180 jours avant de sortir. Les touristes, les Chinois quoi tout le monde se demandent comment nous avons fait mais rien seulement eu de la chance. Et c'est super car le Tibet est magnifique ( Attention saison des pluies ) mais ça va. Et la Chine nous ne faisons que commencer. Nous avons fait 3 semaines à Chengdu super. Le Sim's cosy hostel fantastique. C'est eux qui nous ont organisé les 3 semaines au Tibet. Bon voyage et attention à préparer le Tibet si vous voulez avoir l'autorisation d'y aller on n'y coupe pas. Amitiés Monique et Charly les 2 vagabonds autour du monde
D.M.C
nous sommes rentrés de notre periple la semaine derniere, tout s est tres bien passé.
nous n avons finalement pas tenté le coup pour le tibet autonomne, mais sommes allé dans des régions tibetaines kham et ando, nous avons ralliés xining a chengdu par la route.
ce qui nous a donné l itinéraire suivant :
pekin - xining - yushu - serxu - gansi - madigango - tagong - chengdu - shanghai - pekin
le tout en 20 jours, ce qui a été assez speed (tout par la route et train sauf un vol chengdu - shanghai), mais qui nous a permis de dévouvrir la chine moderne de shanghai et pekin en opposition a la chine rurale du tibet historique.
un lien vers quelques photos du voyage : http://picasaweb.google.fr/francoisbonjour/ChinaSummer2010Select?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7ay7648qbjlwE#
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire votre message et vous avez fait un joli tour. je viens de regarder la carte routière. Pour notre part, après les 3 semaines au Tibet, nous nous sommes aussi arrêtés à Xining pour ensuite faire 4 jours à Tongren, puis pareil à Xiahé puis Langmusi, Zoigé pas resté, Songpan ville fortifiée avec visite de Huanglong, puis Juizhaigou et Chengdu, nous avons fait la descente en 3 semaines, fantastique. Après Chengdu, Leshan, Emei shan et de la à Chongqing vu le temps ville superbe puis une croisière de 4 jours et 3 nuits sur le Yangtzé le luxe 5* mais pas cher du tout et maintenant nous sommes à Yichang près du barrage des 3 gorges et le 31 nous avons le train pour Xi an. La Chine est un pays merveilleux, plein de contrastes.
Mais si vous avez l'occasion d'aller au Tibet à ne pas râter. Fantastique. Amitiés et bonne fin de semaine. Monique
D.M.C
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For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?
Thanks for your insights.
Hi there,
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Here’s our current itinerary:
1. 2-3 days in Tokyo
2. Fujigoko stop: Mount Mitsutoge - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/yamanashi/mount-mitsutoge-trail
3. Suwa / Matsumoto stop: Kirigamine Plateau & Lake Suwa - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/kirigamine-mount-kuruma-yashimagahara-wetland-loop - Matsumoto Castle
4. Nagano stop: Togakushi Sacred Forest - Hike among giant cedars: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/nagano/togakushi-shrine-okusha or https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/mount-togakushi-trail - Ebisu-ko fireworks
5. Kiso Valley stop - Senjojiki Cirque - Magome-Tsumago hike: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/gifu/nakasendo-magome-tsumago
6. 3-4 days in Kyoto - Mount Kurama: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/kyoto/kurama-trail
7. 2-3 days in Tokyo
I’m still checking if this is doable time-wise. We’d love to soak up each place, enjoy the food and onsens, and stay in a ryokan at one of the stops.
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Here’s our current itinerary:
1. 2-3 days in Tokyo
2. Fujigoko stop: Mount Mitsutoge - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/yamanashi/mount-mitsutoge-trail
3. Suwa / Matsumoto stop: Kirigamine Plateau & Lake Suwa - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/kirigamine-mount-kuruma-yashimagahara-wetland-loop - Matsumoto Castle
4. Nagano stop: Togakushi Sacred Forest - Hike among giant cedars: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/nagano/togakushi-shrine-okusha or https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/mount-togakushi-trail - Ebisu-ko fireworks
5. Kiso Valley stop - Senjojiki Cirque - Magome-Tsumago hike: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/gifu/nakasendo-magome-tsumago
6. 3-4 days in Kyoto - Mount Kurama: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/kyoto/kurama-trail
7. 2-3 days in Tokyo
I’m still checking if this is doable time-wise. We’d love to soak up each place, enjoy the food and onsens, and stay in a ryokan at one of the stops.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Hey everyone,
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
hi there
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
Hi there,
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth

