Avis sur itinéraire de dix-neuf jours en Afrique du Sud
by Damalisque
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour vous tous,
tout d'abord merci pour toutes les bonnes idées que j'ai pu trouver au fil de tous vos messages.
Nous partons en AFS cet été et serons sur place du 8 au 25 juillet soit 19 jours.
Voici ou nous en sommes côté itinéraire:
8/07 et 09/07 --> le Pilanesberg
10/07 et 11/07 --> Le Pays Venda : le but voir les baobab et pouvoir traverser le Kruger du Nord au Sud,
VOILA la première interrogation: vaut il mieux se rapprocher de Musina (ou de Tzaneen) le 1er jour et le second rejoindre en visitant les différents parcs Pafuri gate (Sillonner dans ce secteur est il possible seul ou faut il prendre un guide ?)
ou est-il possible de rejoindre le 10 le Mapungubwe (grosse journée de route) rester dans le parc le 11 et rejoindre le Kruger le 12 (encore une grosse journée de route) ... Je me demande si je ne suis pas en train de me répondre en formulant la question, je la laisse, elle est écrite ..
12/07--> Nord Kruger (logement Punta Maria ou Shingwedzi ou ... rien de réservé encore, il semble y avoir encore pas mal de place dans le Nord)
13/07--> Olifants Réservé
14/07--> Skukuza Réservé
15/07--> Petriorskop Réservé
Ne faites pas la tête, je voulais suivre vos conseils et reserver dans des camps plus petits mais nous partons avec nos 3 loulous et les bungalows ou huttes ou ... pour 5 n'étaient plus dispos !!! Pour l'instant sur notre séjour, c'est le seul impératif, être dans ce secteur à ces dates là !!!
16/07--> Blyde river canyon (Pilgrims rest ?)
17/07--> Swaziland juste pour faire une halte, Mlilwane.
J'ai lu que certains d'entre vous sont allés directement jusqu'à Hluluwe, grosse journée roulante mais un jour de plus vers St Lucia, je n'arrive pas à me décider.
18/07--> Hluluwe
19/07 et 20/07 --> St Lucia
21/07--> Imfolozi
ENCORE une question, quelqu'un avait parlé de grands trous rempli de poissons qui se forment sur la plage à marée basse, où est ce ? A Cape Vidal, peut on se baigner en juillet ou l'océan est il trop dangeureux ? Est ce interressant de prendre un logement une nuit à Cape Vidal ?
22/07--> Vol vers Le Cap
23/07 et 24/07 Autour du Cap jusqu'à Hermanus
Quelqu'un avait loué avec une magnifique vue sur la montagne de la table, je ne retrouve pas le post alors s'il se reconnait ou si vous savez dans quelle ville il faut loger pour avoir ce super panorama, je vous remercie d'avance...
La aussi nous avons beaucoup hésité, le Cap ou le Drakensberg...je sais on revient toujours en AFS mais moi je ne sais pas quand, alors nous avons changé 10 fois d'avis et pour finir on a choisi le Cap
25/07 --> Vol vers JNB puis vers Paris
Voili, voilou, je pense que nous avons fait très classique, n'hésitez pas si vous trouvez qu'il y a vraiment trop de route ou des incohérences. Pas de soucis pour les petits ils sont habitués aux circuits en voiture et ils aiment plutot ça...
Encore merci à tous ceux qui ont postés de magnifiques carnets de voyages qui nous ont permis d'avancer dans notre projet, j'attends avec impatience vos critiques constructives
Amicalemant
Sophie
Sophie
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Je ne sais plus si c'est moi qui en avait parlé pour la superbe vue sur la Montagne de la Table. Mais effectivement nous avons loué un appart à Bloubergstrand à une vingtaine de km et la vue était trés chouette sur Capetown et Robben Island. Pendant la saison des baleines vous êtes aux premières loges.
Je vous invite à aller faire un petit tour sur mon carnet de route, vous y trouverez des liens pour réserver les hébergements.
http://langevinenvoyages.uniterre.com/
Bonne prépa. Amicalement.
http://langevinenvoyages.uniterre.com/
Bonne prépa. Amicalement.
http://langevine.uniterre.com/
Il est temps de vivre la vie que tu t'es imaginée (Henri James)
Oui c'est ça, donc pour avoir cette vue, il faut louer vers Bloubergstrand, super je note... Et bravo pour le carnet de route qui est précis et plein d'adresse, une vraie mine d'infos ... j'ai récupéré tous les liens !!!
Merci
Sophie
Sophie
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Non c'est sympa. L'année dernière en 15jours on fait ça (image ajoutée). On a fait JNB-Upington-Mossel Bay-CapeTown (vol intérieur) JNB-Kruger-Nelspruit-Pretoria-SunCity-Pilansberg-JNB. Donc ça devrait allé pour rajouter la partie que tu comptes faire entre St-Lucie et Durban.
PS: A Cape Vidal on peut se baigner, certes la mer est un peu agité mais ca va il faut rester au bord c'est pas trop dangereux, des gens se baignaient. L'eau est assez chaude.
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PS: A Cape Vidal on peut se baigner, certes la mer est un peu agité mais ca va il faut rester au bord c'est pas trop dangereux, des gens se baignaient. L'eau est assez chaude.
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Quelques réponses à tes question...
Il y tout à fait possible de ralier Pilanesberg à Mapungubwe dans la journée. Je l'ai fait l'été dernier (dans l'autre sens) : en partant tôt, je suis arrivé au Pilanesberg en début d'après-midi, me permettant un 1er petit tour dans le parc... Tu peux ensuite aller du Mapungubwe au Kruger dans une même journée également. Sur la route, tu verras de nombreux baobabs. Dans le nord de Kruger, peu importe entre Punta Maria ou Shingwedzi, mais il faut peut-être ne pas être trop gourmand et "se contenter" de Punda Maria, plus proche... La traversée ou non du Swaziland est un éternel problème. Pour moi, ça ne vaut pas plus le coup que ça et la réserve de Mlilwane ne vaut pas Kruger ou Hluhluwe-Umfolozi. Mais attention, ça ne roule pas si bien que ça au Swaziland : la vitesse est limitée et très contrôlée. C'est plus long en kilomètres, mais pas en tempstemps, de contourner le Swaziland, et on évite les possibles longues queues à la frontière. J'y ai perdu 1 heure l'été dernier... Et je pense que la région de Hluhluwe et Ste Lucia vaut davantage le coup ! Personnellement je ne me suis pas baigné à Sodwana Bay : mer très très agitée et pas très chaude. 2 jours pour visiter Le Cap, la péninsule et aller jusqu'à Hermanus, c'est court. Et puis tu n'auras pas forcément besoin d'aller jusqu'à Hermanus pour voir des baleines : je les ai mieux vu à Fish Hoak...
Bon voyage.
Il y tout à fait possible de ralier Pilanesberg à Mapungubwe dans la journée. Je l'ai fait l'été dernier (dans l'autre sens) : en partant tôt, je suis arrivé au Pilanesberg en début d'après-midi, me permettant un 1er petit tour dans le parc... Tu peux ensuite aller du Mapungubwe au Kruger dans une même journée également. Sur la route, tu verras de nombreux baobabs. Dans le nord de Kruger, peu importe entre Punta Maria ou Shingwedzi, mais il faut peut-être ne pas être trop gourmand et "se contenter" de Punda Maria, plus proche... La traversée ou non du Swaziland est un éternel problème. Pour moi, ça ne vaut pas plus le coup que ça et la réserve de Mlilwane ne vaut pas Kruger ou Hluhluwe-Umfolozi. Mais attention, ça ne roule pas si bien que ça au Swaziland : la vitesse est limitée et très contrôlée. C'est plus long en kilomètres, mais pas en tempstemps, de contourner le Swaziland, et on évite les possibles longues queues à la frontière. J'y ai perdu 1 heure l'été dernier... Et je pense que la région de Hluhluwe et Ste Lucia vaut davantage le coup ! Personnellement je ne me suis pas baigné à Sodwana Bay : mer très très agitée et pas très chaude. 2 jours pour visiter Le Cap, la péninsule et aller jusqu'à Hermanus, c'est court. Et puis tu n'auras pas forcément besoin d'aller jusqu'à Hermanus pour voir des baleines : je les ai mieux vu à Fish Hoak...
Bon voyage.
Je reviens d'AFS après 3 semaines en voiture, de Jobourg à Cape Town en passant par le Kruger, le Blyde Canyon, le Swaziland, Hluhluwe, Sta Lucia, Dundee, Clarens, Graaf-Reinet, Knysna, Stellenbosch et Le Cap.
Super séjour.
Pour le Kruger, on a fait deux nuits, Olifants et Lower Sabie, deux très chouettes camps. Deux jours à arpenter les pistes avec les enfants nous ont suffisants, d'auntant plus qu'on a fait Hluhluwe par la suite, mais cela dépend de chacun...Beaucoup d'animaux mais pas les lions et les léopards, des lionnes par contre.
Santa Lucia et sa ballade dans l'estuaire m'a complètement déçu. Il était 10 heures du matin, on a vu un groupe d'hippos dans l'eau, et 3 crocos sans plus. Bref, pour moi, c'est nul...
Le Cap, c'est superbe. On a logé à un bon prix au Dale Court à 15 mn à pied du Waterfront, très chouette adresse avec petit déj inclus. Très très bien, je conseille pour ceux qui veulent être dans le centre.
A faire pour visiter la ville, c'est prendre le bus à impériale, deux tracés (rouge et bleu) et 12 points d'arrêts. cela permet de faire le tour de la ville. La Table Mountain est incontournable et superbe, le quartier de Bokaap et ses maisons colorées. Attention là-bas car vols des appareils et autres. ne pas faire comme nous, se ballader à pied dans le quartier. Une guide sympa s'est arrêté pour nous signaler de ne pas dépasser un certian point à pied car vols. Effectivement, qq minutes après, une voiture s''est arrêtée pas loin de nous avec 5 types à bord, mais j'ai pu détourner ma route et les éviter...
Aussi, les bords de mer et surtout Cape Point et le Cap de Bonne espérance. On a fait aussi les manchots du cap. Attention, il faut payer pour les voir et j'ai trouvé l'entrée assez "chère" pour ce que c'est (25Rands).
Aller aussi à Stellenbosch, hyper chouette...
Voili voilou...
Thierry
Bonjour vous tous,
merci pour vos réponses.
Je pense qu'il faut que je fasse un choix entre Mapungubwe et Pilanesberg, je m'explique: Pila..(8 et 9)--> Mapung..(10 et 11), la route est longue mais faisable, reste une nuit intermediaire entre Mapung...--> Kruger, il faut etre à Olifants le 13 au soir, c'est à dire quand meme assez bas dans le parc. Question perso : si vous aviez à choisir entre les deux parcs Mapungubwe et Pilanesberg lequel garderiez vous ? (Si vous pensez que j'ai tort de penser qu'il faut choisir, et qu'il faut garder les deux n'hésitez pas non plus...)
Swaziland, ok je passe à côté, j'imagine ralier les alentours de Hluluhwe en une journée ? du coup je gagne une journée vers Ste Lucie... BBirdie toi qui es allée à Sodwana Bay est ce que ça vaut le coup ? Qu'y a t'il de plus qu'à Cape Vidal ? As tu logé dans le parc Thl, j'espère beaucoup de cette balade dans l'estuaire !!! me conseillerai tu de la faire plus tard dans la journée ? Que ne faut il pas rater à St Lucia, où avez vous logé ?
Le Cap: Thl est ce qu'il y a un site web pour le Dale Court ?
Amicalement Sophie
Je pense qu'il faut que je fasse un choix entre Mapungubwe et Pilanesberg, je m'explique: Pila..(8 et 9)--> Mapung..(10 et 11), la route est longue mais faisable, reste une nuit intermediaire entre Mapung...--> Kruger, il faut etre à Olifants le 13 au soir, c'est à dire quand meme assez bas dans le parc. Question perso : si vous aviez à choisir entre les deux parcs Mapungubwe et Pilanesberg lequel garderiez vous ? (Si vous pensez que j'ai tort de penser qu'il faut choisir, et qu'il faut garder les deux n'hésitez pas non plus...)
Swaziland, ok je passe à côté, j'imagine ralier les alentours de Hluluhwe en une journée ? du coup je gagne une journée vers Ste Lucie... BBirdie toi qui es allée à Sodwana Bay est ce que ça vaut le coup ? Qu'y a t'il de plus qu'à Cape Vidal ? As tu logé dans le parc Thl, j'espère beaucoup de cette balade dans l'estuaire !!! me conseillerai tu de la faire plus tard dans la journée ? Que ne faut il pas rater à St Lucia, où avez vous logé ?
Le Cap: Thl est ce qu'il y a un site web pour le Dale Court ?
Amicalement Sophie
Sophie
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Pour Santa Lucia, on était en fait au Hilltop Camp dans la réserve de Hluhluwe, et on est parti le matin de bonne heure pour faire la ballade en bateau qui était prévue à 9h mais retardée à 10h. pour moi, ballade pas indispensable et assez nulle d'ailleurs (ce n'est que mon avis). Voir 10 dos d'hippos et 3 dos de crocos n'est pas terrible. Et ensuite, on a continué vers Dundee dans la même journée, donc nous n'avons pas dormi à Santa Lucia.
Pour le Dalecourt, www.dalecourt.co.za ==> 795 Rd la family room et très bon/copieux petit déjeuner. Quelques restos à côté, et à 15 mn du Waterfront. Très bien, je conseille.
Thierry
A choisir entre Pilanesberg et Mapungubwe, je choisis Pilanesberg sans hésitation car c'est un joli parc avec une faune nombreuse, par exemples 14 rhinos observés en 1 seule journée et le seul endroit où j'ai vu des ratels, et aussi un hébergement de qualité. Au contraire, Mapungubwe est peu fourni en faune (du moins ce que j'en ai vu), et se compose de 2 secteurs non contigus éloignés d'un de l'autre d'environ 30 minutes. L'un est surtout forestier (mais pas très intéressant), l'autre est plus désertique avec des paysages qui ressemble parfois à l'Ouest Américain (mais pas aussi spectaculaire). De plus, c'est très excentré...
Pour avoir traversé Kruger entièrement du sud au nord (en 5 étapes), je pense qu'il n'est pas forcément nécessaire de monter tout au nord. La faune est beaucoup plus nombreuse dans la moitié sud, et surtout plus variée. Dans le nord, il y a surtout beaucoup d'éléphants, mais on en voit partout dans le parc. Si c'est pour voir des baobabs, il y en a un dans le camp de Mopani et aussi plusieurs entre Mopani et Shingwedzi.
Lors de mon dernire voyage, je me suis arrêté environ 2 heures à Sodwana Bay. Pas grand chose à y faire sauf de la plongée (au large) et de la pêche (depuis la plage). Sinon grosses vagues déferlantes !
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Pour avoir traversé Kruger entièrement du sud au nord (en 5 étapes), je pense qu'il n'est pas forcément nécessaire de monter tout au nord. La faune est beaucoup plus nombreuse dans la moitié sud, et surtout plus variée. Dans le nord, il y a surtout beaucoup d'éléphants, mais on en voit partout dans le parc. Si c'est pour voir des baobabs, il y en a un dans le camp de Mopani et aussi plusieurs entre Mopani et Shingwedzi.
Lors de mon dernire voyage, je me suis arrêté environ 2 heures à Sodwana Bay. Pas grand chose à y faire sauf de la plongée (au large) et de la pêche (depuis la plage). Sinon grosses vagues déferlantes !
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Coucou vous tous,
voila ou j'en suis, si j'enlève le Mapungubwe
8/07 et 09/07 --> le Pilanesberg
10/07 --> connaissez vous Lyon's Farm ou De Wildt, avez vous vous une préférence ?
direction le nord jusqu'à Makhado (?)
11/07 --> Le Pays Venda, peut etre parc de Musina ou Nwanedi, le Big tree, nuit vers Pafuri Gate
12/07--> Nord Kruger Shingwedzi
13/07--> Olifants Réservé
14/07--> Skukuza Réservé
15/07--> Petriorskop Réservé
16/07--> Blyde river canyon (Pilgrims rest ?)
17/07--> Hluluwe et on gagne une nuit sur St Lucia
Blyde river canyon (Pilgrims rest ?)
Bbyrdie si je te lis bien est ce que je dois penser qu'il faut faire plus classique : 8/07 et 09/07 --> le Pilanesberg 10/07 --> Direction Blyde soir au sud, peut etre Pilgrims rest 11/07 --> Blyde river canyon soir au nord vers une porte 12/07--> Kruger il ne reste de la place qu'à Mopani 13/07--> Olifants Réservé 14/07--> Skukuza Réservé 15/07--> Petriorskop Réservé 16/07--> je peux faire Swaziland 17/07--> Hluluwe et je garde ma nuit gagnée sur St Lucia (ou je ne fait pas Swaziland et je gagne une nuit de plus pour aller vers Eshowe: peut etre Shakaland- si personne ne me souffle de ne surtout pas y mettre un pied...) Amitiés Sophie
Bbyrdie si je te lis bien est ce que je dois penser qu'il faut faire plus classique : 8/07 et 09/07 --> le Pilanesberg 10/07 --> Direction Blyde soir au sud, peut etre Pilgrims rest 11/07 --> Blyde river canyon soir au nord vers une porte 12/07--> Kruger il ne reste de la place qu'à Mopani 13/07--> Olifants Réservé 14/07--> Skukuza Réservé 15/07--> Petriorskop Réservé 16/07--> je peux faire Swaziland 17/07--> Hluluwe et je garde ma nuit gagnée sur St Lucia (ou je ne fait pas Swaziland et je gagne une nuit de plus pour aller vers Eshowe: peut etre Shakaland- si personne ne me souffle de ne surtout pas y mettre un pied...) Amitiés Sophie
Sophie
NOS CARNETS DE VOYAGES , l'Afrique du Sud, le Sinaï , La vallée du Nil, Rome et la Toscane, l'Ouest Américain, la Thaïlande, la Chine, le Mexique, le Rajasthan, la Namibie, NYC, la Floride, la Scandinavie, le Japon, l’Australie
J'ai à peu près fait le même parcours à l'exception du nord Kruger il y 3 ans. Coté voiture pensez que les parcs se font aussi en voiture ! Même s'il y a les animaux la journée se passe quand même assis en voiture. Sinon j'ai un petit faible pour le Swaziland, un peu plus authentique et l'on peut faire des balades à pied dans la principale réserve qui propose des huttes en pleine nature avec repas au coin du feu ; très sympa avec les enfants. En allant au Cap passez par Simons Town et donnez le bonjour de ma part aux pingouins !
Bon voyage
C'est toujours un peu délicat de conseiller ou de critiquer un itinéraire, car chacun a ses propres envies.
Personnellement, je n'ai pas été emballé par la région de Musina, même si elle est assez typique et peu touristique, mais mérite-t-elle ce long détour ? Oui si on a beaucoup de temps...
Pas emballé non plus par le Swaziland (mais tout le monde n'est pas forcément d'accord) que l'on peut se contenter de traverser (ou contourner) dans la journée (à condition de ne pas partir trop tard de Kruger par exemple).
J'ai volontairement évité Pilgrim's Rest et Shakaland, peu authentiques à mon idée).
Dur dur de choisir, mais ça y est, ça avance un peu dans la reflexion, on passe par le nord Kruger mais on ne va pas jusqu'à Mapungubwe.
On entrera au Kruger par la Pafuri Gate, en cherchant des logements, je suis tombée sur le Pafuri Rivercamp je cite le web "on the banks of the Mutale River (tributary to Limpopo) just outside the Kruger National Park. Located in rural Venda, next to Makuya Nature Reserve and 4 km from the Pafuri Gate of the Kruger Park"; Quelqu'un a t'il testé ou entendu parler ? ou avez vous une autre adresse dans le secteur ?
Dans l'idée on va essayer de se rapprocher le plus possible du pays Venda (Pilanesberg/Makhado ou Tshipise sur 1 jour) pour le lendemain voir les baobabs de Musina, peut etre le parc Nwanedi et le big tree. On aura ensuite une autre grande journée roulante si on décide de contourner le Swaziland, mais pas encore de décision prise. J'oublie Shakaland, je ne sais pas encore pour Pilgrims rest...
Je vous dis la suite dès que j'en sais plus !!! Amitiés Sophie
On entrera au Kruger par la Pafuri Gate, en cherchant des logements, je suis tombée sur le Pafuri Rivercamp je cite le web "on the banks of the Mutale River (tributary to Limpopo) just outside the Kruger National Park. Located in rural Venda, next to Makuya Nature Reserve and 4 km from the Pafuri Gate of the Kruger Park"; Quelqu'un a t'il testé ou entendu parler ? ou avez vous une autre adresse dans le secteur ?
Dans l'idée on va essayer de se rapprocher le plus possible du pays Venda (Pilanesberg/Makhado ou Tshipise sur 1 jour) pour le lendemain voir les baobabs de Musina, peut etre le parc Nwanedi et le big tree. On aura ensuite une autre grande journée roulante si on décide de contourner le Swaziland, mais pas encore de décision prise. J'oublie Shakaland, je ne sais pas encore pour Pilgrims rest...
Je vous dis la suite dès que j'en sais plus !!! Amitiés Sophie
Sophie
NOS CARNETS DE VOYAGES , l'Afrique du Sud, le Sinaï , La vallée du Nil, Rome et la Toscane, l'Ouest Américain, la Thaïlande, la Chine, le Mexique, le Rajasthan, la Namibie, NYC, la Floride, la Scandinavie, le Japon, l’Australie
bonjour travel71
nous serons en afrique du sud debut mai pour 20 jours derniere etape de notre tour du monde de 10 mois et je n'ai pas pensé au swaziland .
nous voulons aller au kruger et aux chutes victoria pour le reste ...
que peut tu me conseiller et comment l'a tu fait avec des enfants?
merci de tes conseils
elsa
zazalolo
Nous avions fait le Swaziland entre le Kruger et Santa Lucia. Après plusieurs jours de voiture y compris dans les parcs cela faisait du bien de se poser 2 jours dans le parc de Milwahne et de pouvoir marcher un peu avec les enfants. Sinon si ce n'est pas sur votre chemin cela ne vaut peut être pas le coup mais à noter aussi que dès qu'on rentre au Swaziland l'atmosphère est différente que l'AFS, peut être plus authentique.
Voilà sacrés veinards ....10 mois de voyage!😉
ça y est tout est bouclé... merci a tout ceux qui nous ont donné leur avis et aidé à paufiner l'itinéraire.
Evidement j'ai encore une question... comme nous allons etre à Ste Lucia et ensuite à Simons town, où vaut il mieux faire la sortie en mer pour voir les baleines ?
Et une dernière, le De wild cheetah est il interessant à faire ?
Merci d'avance...
Sophie
Sophie
NOS CARNETS DE VOYAGES , l'Afrique du Sud, le Sinaï , La vallée du Nil, Rome et la Toscane, l'Ouest Américain, la Thaïlande, la Chine, le Mexique, le Rajasthan, la Namibie, NYC, la Floride, la Scandinavie, le Japon, l’Australie
Bonjour,
Nous partons tous le mois d'août avec nos 2 enfants en Afrique du sud, notre itinéraire est à peu près similaire au votre. Contrairement à nos habitudes de voyage, nous avons réservé les hôtels.
J'ai envisagé 2 étapes de liaison lors de notre descente vers le Cap, de 400 km chacune par jour. Est-ce faisable sans difficulté, et à quelle heure la nuit tombe? Quelles précautions sur la route ?
Avez-vous rencontré des difficultés pour vous rendre à vos hôtels et en général pour trouver votre chemin. Faut-il un GPS ? Peut-on utiliser notre tèl potable ?
Nous comptons visiter Cape town, avez vous rencontrer de l'insécurité, et cette étape d'une journée vaut-elle le coût.
En général, quelles sont les précautions à prendre avec nos enfants (filles 17 et 12 ans)
Faut-il se faire vacciner contre le palludisme et autres?
Votre blog sur votre voyage est très bien fait, très complet et très enrichissant. Merci
Merci de votre réponse.
Nous partons tous le mois d'août avec nos 2 enfants en Afrique du sud, notre itinéraire est à peu près similaire au votre. Contrairement à nos habitudes de voyage, nous avons réservé les hôtels.
J'ai envisagé 2 étapes de liaison lors de notre descente vers le Cap, de 400 km chacune par jour. Est-ce faisable sans difficulté, et à quelle heure la nuit tombe? Quelles précautions sur la route ?
Avez-vous rencontré des difficultés pour vous rendre à vos hôtels et en général pour trouver votre chemin. Faut-il un GPS ? Peut-on utiliser notre tèl potable ?
Nous comptons visiter Cape town, avez vous rencontrer de l'insécurité, et cette étape d'une journée vaut-elle le coût.
En général, quelles sont les précautions à prendre avec nos enfants (filles 17 et 12 ans)
Faut-il se faire vacciner contre le palludisme et autres?
Votre blog sur votre voyage est très bien fait, très complet et très enrichissant. Merci
Merci de votre réponse.
Bonjour,
contente que la lecture de notre blog vous ait intéressé...
Dans l'ordre:
2 étapes de liaison lors de notre descente vers le Cap, de 400 km chacune
Je n'ai pas fait ces étapes personnellement, vu que nous avons effectué Durban/le Cap en vol interieur, mais je pense qu'il n'y a aucun soucis pour effectuer 400 km en une journée, les routes sont en très bon état. La nuit tombe très vite et en juillet il faisait nuit noire à 18h, mais il faisait grand jour à 6h du matin, donc les journées sont tout de même assez longues.
pour trouver votre chemin. Faut-il un GPS ?
Aucun soucis pour se repérer tout est très bien indiqué, nous n'avions pas de GPS et n'en avons jamais eu besoin, il suffit de connaitre le numéro des routes que l'on souhaite prendre et leur direction Est, Ouest, sud ou nord. Nous avons utilisé notre téléphone portable.
Cape town
C'est une ville très agréable où l'insécurité vient du fait que l'on ne la ressent pas disent les guides. Et bien pour nous ça a été le cas, nous n'avons ressenti aucune insécurité. Oui, l'étape vaut vraiment le coup et il y a pas mal de visites intéressantes à faire.
précautions à prendre
Je ne sais pas trop, je n'ai pas l'impression d'avoir pris des précautions particulières. Nous étions des touristes, donc beaucoup d'endroits très touristiques et des parcs où il n'y a aucun dangers. Nous étions avec enfants, donc nous n'avons pas fait de folies de nos soirées et hormis au Cap et à Ste Lucia, nous ne sommes pas sortis le soir. Nous n'avons sincèrement jamais senti l'insécurité... nous avons plus été touché par l'extrême pauvreté, nous avions un peu préparé nos enfants en leur achetant plusieurs recueils parlant de l'apartheid et de l'histoire de l'AFS.
le palludisme
Nous avions pris de la Malarone, prise des cachets le soir, aucun effet indésirables.
Voila, j'espère que ça vous aidera, n'hésitez pas si vous avez d'autres questions Sophie
2 étapes de liaison lors de notre descente vers le Cap, de 400 km chacune
Je n'ai pas fait ces étapes personnellement, vu que nous avons effectué Durban/le Cap en vol interieur, mais je pense qu'il n'y a aucun soucis pour effectuer 400 km en une journée, les routes sont en très bon état. La nuit tombe très vite et en juillet il faisait nuit noire à 18h, mais il faisait grand jour à 6h du matin, donc les journées sont tout de même assez longues.
pour trouver votre chemin. Faut-il un GPS ?
Aucun soucis pour se repérer tout est très bien indiqué, nous n'avions pas de GPS et n'en avons jamais eu besoin, il suffit de connaitre le numéro des routes que l'on souhaite prendre et leur direction Est, Ouest, sud ou nord. Nous avons utilisé notre téléphone portable.
Cape town
C'est une ville très agréable où l'insécurité vient du fait que l'on ne la ressent pas disent les guides. Et bien pour nous ça a été le cas, nous n'avons ressenti aucune insécurité. Oui, l'étape vaut vraiment le coup et il y a pas mal de visites intéressantes à faire.
précautions à prendre
Je ne sais pas trop, je n'ai pas l'impression d'avoir pris des précautions particulières. Nous étions des touristes, donc beaucoup d'endroits très touristiques et des parcs où il n'y a aucun dangers. Nous étions avec enfants, donc nous n'avons pas fait de folies de nos soirées et hormis au Cap et à Ste Lucia, nous ne sommes pas sortis le soir. Nous n'avons sincèrement jamais senti l'insécurité... nous avons plus été touché par l'extrême pauvreté, nous avions un peu préparé nos enfants en leur achetant plusieurs recueils parlant de l'apartheid et de l'histoire de l'AFS.
le palludisme
Nous avions pris de la Malarone, prise des cachets le soir, aucun effet indésirables.
Voila, j'espère que ça vous aidera, n'hésitez pas si vous avez d'autres questions Sophie
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Bonjour,
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
Nous revenons de dix jours en Tanzanie. Nous avons eu la chance d’être guidés par Gishaman. Toujours de bonne humeur, bon conducteur et très bon guide. Grâce à lui nous avons eu la chance de voir non seulement les big5 en une journée mais aussi plein d’autres animaux. Il travaille pour l’agence locale Blit Safaris qui a assuré un très bon suivi de notre voyage. À conseiller !
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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Dream of standing on the roof of Africa at 5,895 m? I’m looking for 4 people to complete our group for the Kilimanjaro ascent in Tanzania. 📅 September 17–28, 2026 👥 Small group 🥾 Suitable for experienced hikers 🏔️ Goal: Uhuru Peak – 5,895 m 🇹🇿 Local team specialized in Kilimanjaro 🎒 Porters during the ascent 🍽️ Meals and trek organization included 🧗♂️ Trip led by a French state-certified Mountain Leader
September is a great time to attempt the Kilimanjaro ascent. 🔥 Only 4 spots left. The departure is confirmed. No need to be a mountaineer—just be in good shape, love hiking, and want to experience an incredible adventure. 👋 If you’re alone, no problem: you’ll join our small group directly. 📧 Send me a message for the full program, price, and all the details.
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉




