Itinéraire pour douze jours dans les alentours de Guilin (Chine)
by Boubou29
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'habite en Coree et je me rends dans une semaine vers Guilin pour 2 semaines apres quoi direction Pekin pour 4 jours.
Je compte prendre mon temps et ne rien faire au pas de course, l'idee etant de s'impregner des lieux et de l'atmosphere.
Je pense rester vers Yangshuo pour 2-3 jours, prendre un velo et visiter le coin puis me diriger au nord de Guilin vers les rizieres y passer la nuit et faire une promenade le lendemain. Tout ca ne devrait pas prendre plus de 5-6 jours je pense.
Que me conseillerez-vous de faire apres ca? M'aventurer plus au nord du Guizhou et aller a la rencontre des minorites?
Ca ne serait pas un peu trop juste en 6 jours? Est-ce facile de se deplacer? Avez-vous des suggestions autres?
Merci!
B.
Je connais bien yangshuo, c'est ma deuxième patrie:j'y ai connu mon épouse.Vous arrivez à yangshuo cool.Vous vous imprégnez de la ville lentement.Vous rencontrez des chinois et des étrangers.vous échangez.N'hésitez pas à discuter avec les guides.Demandez à loger chez l'habitant.Soyez généreux, le jeu en vaut largement la chandelle.Partez en vélo dans la campagne, en bateau etc...Plein de choses à faire.
Citoyen du monde
Vous pouvez aussi facilement visiter les villages aux alentours comme Fuli et Xinping. La vous avez une idée de Yangshuo il y a 10 ans ;-)
Au sinon si vous avez du temps vous pouvez facilement après les rizières vous rendre au village de Longshen et de la prendre un bus vers Sanjiang. Un beau village DONG.
Je dirais, 7 jours pour Yangshuo et alentours, puis 5 jours pour les rizières et Sanjiang, ca vous laisse 2 pour Guilin, qui est joli aussi pour cette durée la.
Pour le déplacement c'est facile et non :-p
Le bus pour Yangshuo: départ environs toutes les 20 minutes au terminal des bus centrale sur Zhongshan nan lu. ce sont des bus directes et coûte 18 RMB. Au sinon a la gare (des trains) il y a aussi des bus qui s'arretent souvent en cours de route et coûtent 15 RMB (mais ils demanderons plus)
Pour les rizières si vous voulez du direct il faut être a la gare a 08:30 pour Dazhai et 09:30 pour Ping An.
Au sinon, si vous voulez d'abord aller vers Sanjiang, les bus partent de la nouvelle gare d'autobus. Si vous êtes a la gare (de bus ou de train) prenez le bus 88 qui vous y amene (2RMB) et la il y a des bus vers Longshen et vers Sanjiang...
A Longshen il faut prendre les petits bus locaux qui vous amène soit a Ping An, soit a Dazhai.
Bon séjour ici, et je confirme, que ce soit Yangshuo ou les rizières (ou moi j'ai rencontré ma femme) les environs de Guilin sont magnifiques!
Bien a vous,
Jacques
Au sinon si vous avez du temps vous pouvez facilement après les rizières vous rendre au village de Longshen et de la prendre un bus vers Sanjiang. Un beau village DONG.
Je dirais, 7 jours pour Yangshuo et alentours, puis 5 jours pour les rizières et Sanjiang, ca vous laisse 2 pour Guilin, qui est joli aussi pour cette durée la.
Pour le déplacement c'est facile et non :-p
Le bus pour Yangshuo: départ environs toutes les 20 minutes au terminal des bus centrale sur Zhongshan nan lu. ce sont des bus directes et coûte 18 RMB. Au sinon a la gare (des trains) il y a aussi des bus qui s'arretent souvent en cours de route et coûtent 15 RMB (mais ils demanderons plus)
Pour les rizières si vous voulez du direct il faut être a la gare a 08:30 pour Dazhai et 09:30 pour Ping An.
Au sinon, si vous voulez d'abord aller vers Sanjiang, les bus partent de la nouvelle gare d'autobus. Si vous êtes a la gare (de bus ou de train) prenez le bus 88 qui vous y amene (2RMB) et la il y a des bus vers Longshen et vers Sanjiang...
A Longshen il faut prendre les petits bus locaux qui vous amène soit a Ping An, soit a Dazhai.
Bon séjour ici, et je confirme, que ce soit Yangshuo ou les rizières (ou moi j'ai rencontré ma femme) les environs de Guilin sont magnifiques!
Bien a vous,
Jacques
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nord de Guilin vers les rizieres y passer la nuit et faire une promenade le lendemain. Tout ca ne devrait pas prendre plus de 5-6 jours je pense.
Que me conseillerez-vous de faire apres ca? M'aventurer plus au nord du Guizhou et aller a la rencontre des minorites?
Le Nord du Guizhou c'est loin. Le Sud-Est du Guizhou c'est plus près Je préfèrerais par exemple les rizières en terrasse de Jiabang (district de Congjiang) à celles de Longsheng trop touristiques.
Pour la durée à titre indicatif. De Rongjiang à Kaili il doit y avoir entre 6 et 8 heures de bus. En 2008 j'ai pris le premier bus de Rongjiang vers 6 ou 7 heures du matin et ai pu arriver à Yangshuo tard le soir (entre 22h et 24h maiq en période de nouvel an chinois je crois don avec plus de bus le soir (Je ne pensais pas y parvenir en une journée. A Congjiang j'ai dû demander au chauffeur de mon bus de stopper le bus pour Sanjiang qui était en train de quitter la gare routière au moment où nous arrivions. Et j'ai du mettre moins de 10 minutes pour le changement de gare routière à Sanjiang (Je connaissais bien les lieux).
En sens inverse Yangshuo Rongjiang, si les horaires n'ont pas changé, une journée ne suffirait pas ca rle premier bus de Yangshuo ne permet pas de prendre le premier bus de Guilin à Sanjiang
Le Nord du Guizhou c'est loin. Le Sud-Est du Guizhou c'est plus près Je préfèrerais par exemple les rizières en terrasse de Jiabang (district de Congjiang) à celles de Longsheng trop touristiques.
Pour la durée à titre indicatif. De Rongjiang à Kaili il doit y avoir entre 6 et 8 heures de bus. En 2008 j'ai pris le premier bus de Rongjiang vers 6 ou 7 heures du matin et ai pu arriver à Yangshuo tard le soir (entre 22h et 24h maiq en période de nouvel an chinois je crois don avec plus de bus le soir (Je ne pensais pas y parvenir en une journée. A Congjiang j'ai dû demander au chauffeur de mon bus de stopper le bus pour Sanjiang qui était en train de quitter la gare routière au moment où nous arrivions. Et j'ai du mettre moins de 10 minutes pour le changement de gare routière à Sanjiang (Je connaissais bien les lieux).
En sens inverse Yangshuo Rongjiang, si les horaires n'ont pas changé, une journée ne suffirait pas ca rle premier bus de Yangshuo ne permet pas de prendre le premier bus de Guilin à Sanjiang
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Pour les plus téméraires il est possible aussi d' aller de Guilin à Congjiang en allant d'abord à Danian (Belle route où il faut changer de bus, et cela le chauffeur du bus ne le sait pas nécessairement. Comme je logeais à la modeste gare routière de Danian le chauffeur m'avais d'abord dit non la veille de mon départ. Mais le lendemain après s'être enseigné il a su où m'arrêter et au bout de 10 minutes j'ai pu arrêter un bus, au chauffeur très sympathique, qui prenait une autre route vers Guilin) où se trouve l'association Couleurs de Chine (http://www.couleursdechine.org/cdc2/ ) puis de là marcher quelques kilomètres le long de la rivière Danian sur une nouvelle "route" (Très calme, peu de moteurs, des femmes dans les champs en costume traditionnel tmême des enfants, voire des adultes, qui disent "bonjour" en français) jusqu'à son embouchure sur Duliu une plus grosse rivière à traverser sur un frêle esquif (Prix 1 yuan l'an dernier) et stopper un bus pour Congjiang
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«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Pour information, nous venons de prendre le bus entre Kaili et Rongjiang le trajet dure desormais 3 heures ( une nouvelle autoroute a été créee )
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Bonjour,
Je suis en train de préparer un voyage Guizhou, Guangxi (3 semaines). Nous cherchons beaux paysages, villages anciens, architectures. Nous evitons les pieges a touristes. Nous n'aimons pas boulotter des km, aimons les pauses randos. Dans ce but, il semble qu'il faille preférer Jianbang (Congjiang) a la place de Longshen. Vu que vous y êtes allé récemment pouvez-vous me donner des conseils du genre : ici pas la peine, la c'est super, ... quitte a mettre des etoiles selon vos preferences. Savez-vous s'il y a un bus de nuit direct de Guilin a Kaili ? Sur Guiin je prevois au Sud-Est Yangshuo assurement et Huangyao peut-etre Au Nord Ouest : Longsheng peut-etre, Sanjiang (pont) assurement, Tongdao (Hongjiang), Congjiang, Zhoaxing, Liping (Longli), Rongjiang, et peut-etre plus au Nord Langde pres de Kaili. Par avance merci et merci a voyageforum.
Je suis en train de préparer un voyage Guizhou, Guangxi (3 semaines). Nous cherchons beaux paysages, villages anciens, architectures. Nous evitons les pieges a touristes. Nous n'aimons pas boulotter des km, aimons les pauses randos. Dans ce but, il semble qu'il faille preférer Jianbang (Congjiang) a la place de Longshen. Vu que vous y êtes allé récemment pouvez-vous me donner des conseils du genre : ici pas la peine, la c'est super, ... quitte a mettre des etoiles selon vos preferences. Savez-vous s'il y a un bus de nuit direct de Guilin a Kaili ? Sur Guiin je prevois au Sud-Est Yangshuo assurement et Huangyao peut-etre Au Nord Ouest : Longsheng peut-etre, Sanjiang (pont) assurement, Tongdao (Hongjiang), Congjiang, Zhoaxing, Liping (Longli), Rongjiang, et peut-etre plus au Nord Langde pres de Kaili. Par avance merci et merci a voyageforum.
Bonjour
C’est déjà bien loin et nous avons vécu des moments très fort dans le Guizhou Ce fut un voyage très authentique et pas de touristes ou personne ne parle l’anglais et ne comprend que l’écriture chinoise. Notre système D était d’inscrire sur papier la destination en chinois et de pointer l’index et l’annulaire ( pour acheter 2 billets) et non l’index et le pouce ( qui signifie 8 en chinois) La ville de Kaili n’est pas très jolie mais on voit beaucoup d’artisanat ( fabricants de chaussures , de matelas etc…), Les dentistes avec des affiches publicitaires dignes de films d’horreur exercent dans la rue (il ne faut pas avoir mal aux dents ici). On voit sur des marchés des chiens en cage destinés pour la boucherie. De ce fait dans le Guizhou on a évité de manger au resto on a mangé que des soupes de nouilles en boîte. La fête du luscheng restera des moments inoubliables avec des combats de buffles des chants et danses traditionnelles. Nous avons aimé la Ville de Zhaoxing *** Et la rando entre Zhaoxing et Tang’an est également très agréable Le village de Biaisha ou des femmes avec leur costume traditionnel travaillaient dans les champs Sanjiang(pont) le village ressemblait à ceux que l’on venait de voir et ce village est payant donc je trouve que cette visite n’est pas indispensable Pour Longli ( rizières en terrasse) c’est le tourisme à outrance chinois pour accèder il faut gravir une allée bordée d’échoppes et plein de boutiques Un conseil vérifier que la méteo soit bonne ( sinon aucun intérêt) et prévoir d’y dormir une nuit. On a adoré les paysages sur ces rizières mais on a détesté tout ce qui gravite autour. Guilin est une ville ou beaucoup de sites sont payants et sans grand intérêt comme le rocher de la trompe de l’éléphant On a aimé Yanghoo : L’environnement est très joli et la de scente de la rivière en bambou est superbe. Pour le bus de nuit de Guilin je ne pourrais te renseigner ainsi que les villes de Huangyao langde et Tongdao car nous n’y sommes pas allés. Je te souhaite une bonne préparation pour ton voyage. Tu peux consulter notre site sur le lien ci-dessous Nous y étions à partir du samedi 22 octobre 2011 http://troisdeuxun.over-blog.net/pages/provinces-du-sud-5901357.html
C’est déjà bien loin et nous avons vécu des moments très fort dans le Guizhou Ce fut un voyage très authentique et pas de touristes ou personne ne parle l’anglais et ne comprend que l’écriture chinoise. Notre système D était d’inscrire sur papier la destination en chinois et de pointer l’index et l’annulaire ( pour acheter 2 billets) et non l’index et le pouce ( qui signifie 8 en chinois) La ville de Kaili n’est pas très jolie mais on voit beaucoup d’artisanat ( fabricants de chaussures , de matelas etc…), Les dentistes avec des affiches publicitaires dignes de films d’horreur exercent dans la rue (il ne faut pas avoir mal aux dents ici). On voit sur des marchés des chiens en cage destinés pour la boucherie. De ce fait dans le Guizhou on a évité de manger au resto on a mangé que des soupes de nouilles en boîte. La fête du luscheng restera des moments inoubliables avec des combats de buffles des chants et danses traditionnelles. Nous avons aimé la Ville de Zhaoxing *** Et la rando entre Zhaoxing et Tang’an est également très agréable Le village de Biaisha ou des femmes avec leur costume traditionnel travaillaient dans les champs Sanjiang(pont) le village ressemblait à ceux que l’on venait de voir et ce village est payant donc je trouve que cette visite n’est pas indispensable Pour Longli ( rizières en terrasse) c’est le tourisme à outrance chinois pour accèder il faut gravir une allée bordée d’échoppes et plein de boutiques Un conseil vérifier que la méteo soit bonne ( sinon aucun intérêt) et prévoir d’y dormir une nuit. On a adoré les paysages sur ces rizières mais on a détesté tout ce qui gravite autour. Guilin est une ville ou beaucoup de sites sont payants et sans grand intérêt comme le rocher de la trompe de l’éléphant On a aimé Yanghoo : L’environnement est très joli et la de scente de la rivière en bambou est superbe. Pour le bus de nuit de Guilin je ne pourrais te renseigner ainsi que les villes de Huangyao langde et Tongdao car nous n’y sommes pas allés. Je te souhaite une bonne préparation pour ton voyage. Tu peux consulter notre site sur le lien ci-dessous Nous y étions à partir du samedi 22 octobre 2011 http://troisdeuxun.over-blog.net/pages/provinces-du-sud-5901357.html
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pointer l’index et l’annulaire ( pour acheter 2 billets) et non l’index et le pouce ( qui signifie 8 en chinois)
Contorsionniste?
J'ai appris que deux c’était l'index et le majeur. C'est beaucoup plus facile à faire
On voit sur des marchés des chiens en cage destinés pour la boucherie. De ce fait dans le Guizhou on a évité de manger au resto
A priori c'est une viande chère, il y a peu de chance qu'on la vende pour une autre . Des restaurant sont fiers d'en faire leur unique spécialité
Sanjiang(pont) le village ressemblait à ceux que l’on venait de voir et ce village est payant donc je trouve que cette visite n’est pas indispensable
S'il s'agit du village de Sanjiang (Trois rivières) au Guizhou , il n'y a pas de pont S'il s'agit de Sanjiang (Trois rivières) au Guangxi, c'est une ville. Peut-être s'agit-il du village de Chengyang (Entrée payante et ou il y a un pont du vent et de la pluie ) au Nord de cette ville
Tongdao car nous n’y sommes pas allés.
S'il s'agit de Tongdao (Alias Yatongdao) au Hunan où je suis allé à un festival il y a deux ans, je crois savoir que l'on ne peut y dormir "pour cause" de zone militaire
Contorsionniste?
J'ai appris que deux c’était l'index et le majeur. C'est beaucoup plus facile à faire
On voit sur des marchés des chiens en cage destinés pour la boucherie. De ce fait dans le Guizhou on a évité de manger au resto
A priori c'est une viande chère, il y a peu de chance qu'on la vende pour une autre . Des restaurant sont fiers d'en faire leur unique spécialité
Sanjiang(pont) le village ressemblait à ceux que l’on venait de voir et ce village est payant donc je trouve que cette visite n’est pas indispensable
S'il s'agit du village de Sanjiang (Trois rivières) au Guizhou , il n'y a pas de pont S'il s'agit de Sanjiang (Trois rivières) au Guangxi, c'est une ville. Peut-être s'agit-il du village de Chengyang (Entrée payante et ou il y a un pont du vent et de la pluie ) au Nord de cette ville
Tongdao car nous n’y sommes pas allés.
S'il s'agit de Tongdao (Alias Yatongdao) au Hunan où je suis allé à un festival il y a deux ans, je crois savoir que l'on ne peut y dormir "pour cause" de zone militaire
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
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«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Pour la durée à titre indicatif.
De Rongjiang à Kaili il doit y avoir entre 6 et 8 heures de bus.
Périmé!!! Maintenant, avec le très différent trajet par l’autoroute, il faut trois heures, oui, mais sans intérêt majeur, L'ancienne route plus pittoresque est surtout fréquentée maintenant par des mini-vans
Périmé!!! Maintenant, avec le très différent trajet par l’autoroute, il faut trois heures, oui, mais sans intérêt majeur, L'ancienne route plus pittoresque est surtout fréquentée maintenant par des mini-vans
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Bonjour,
Savez-vous s'il y a un bus de nuit direct de Guilin a Kaili ?
Je ne connais pas la réponse MAIS J’ai "arpenté" cette route ces derniers jours (Surtout Rongjiang, Congjiang) et obligé de venir a Guilin (Où je suis, avant de repartir dans la région de Congjiang, Rongjiang) pour retirer de l argent. Il y a entre autres de bus De Kaili a Congjiang et de Congjiang a Guilin.
Quant à un bus de nuit:On parle beaucoup de sécurité en Chine. Sur la partie ancienne de la route c'est particulièrement risqué de rouler de nuit. Sur la partie autoroute.Il y a une succession de tunnels et de ponts. Quant les nuits sont froides il est déconseillé, car dangereux de prendre le premier bus du matin a cause du verglas sur ces ponts élevés exposés a des vents glaciaux. Ne chercher pas de compte-rendus dans la presse. Il n'y a rien... d'écrit.
Je ne pense pas, sauf exception (Nouvel an peut-être), qu'il y ait de bus de nuit sur ce parcours
Je ne connais pas la réponse MAIS J’ai "arpenté" cette route ces derniers jours (Surtout Rongjiang, Congjiang) et obligé de venir a Guilin (Où je suis, avant de repartir dans la région de Congjiang, Rongjiang) pour retirer de l argent. Il y a entre autres de bus De Kaili a Congjiang et de Congjiang a Guilin.
Quant à un bus de nuit:On parle beaucoup de sécurité en Chine. Sur la partie ancienne de la route c'est particulièrement risqué de rouler de nuit. Sur la partie autoroute.Il y a une succession de tunnels et de ponts. Quant les nuits sont froides il est déconseillé, car dangereux de prendre le premier bus du matin a cause du verglas sur ces ponts élevés exposés a des vents glaciaux. Ne chercher pas de compte-rendus dans la presse. Il n'y a rien... d'écrit.
Je ne pense pas, sauf exception (Nouvel an peut-être), qu'il y ait de bus de nuit sur ce parcours
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Dans ce but, il semble qu'il faille preférer Jianbang (Congjiang) a la place de Longshen. .
Jiabang...pas Jianbang
Jiabang...pas Jianbang
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«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Nous avons aimé la Ville de Zhaoxing
Plutôt un gros village pittoresque touristique dont l’entrée sera très prochainement payante
Tang'an dont un quart du village a brûlé il y a quatre ans (J'y avait mangé la veille et en quittant Zhaoxing j'ai vu la police contenir les badauds)
Plutôt un gros village pittoresque touristique dont l’entrée sera très prochainement payante
Tang'an dont un quart du village a brûlé il y a quatre ans (J'y avait mangé la veille et en quittant Zhaoxing j'ai vu la police contenir les badauds)
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Je ne sais pas... mais pense que probablement oui.
C'est à "China Unicom" qu'il faut demander.
Je crois aussi préférable d'acheter dans la ville ou l'on l’utilisera le plus, si c'est là que l'on doit payer le moins cher. J'ai attendu d’être a Kaili pour acheter ma carte a car je voyage surtout dans le Qiandongnan qui en dépend.
Je crois aussi préférable d'acheter dans la ville ou l'on l’utilisera le plus, si c'est là que l'on doit payer le moins cher. J'ai attendu d’être a Kaili pour acheter ma carte a car je voyage surtout dans le Qiandongnan qui en dépend.
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
Puisque nous sommes dans la technique...
Sur ma clé USB contenant mes différents logiciels portables: navigateur en français (Mozilla) avec mes signets personnels, Xnview, etc....
j'ai ajoute le logiciel FreeU sans lequel il me serait impossible de me connecter ici, en Chine, à Voyageforum, entre autres...!
Sur ma clé USB contenant mes différents logiciels portables: navigateur en français (Mozilla) avec mes signets personnels, Xnview, etc....
j'ai ajoute le logiciel FreeU sans lequel il me serait impossible de me connecter ici, en Chine, à Voyageforum, entre autres...!
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
De retour.
Ce que nous avons le plus aimé c'est Zhaoxing (surtout la balade au dessus des rizières à Ping'an) et aussi Chengyiang et alentours comme Goayou. Zhaoxing n'est pas payant. Par contre Chengyiang l'est (60 yuans, spectacle compris).
Sommes aussi allés a Longli près de Liping, Langdé près de Kaili (seul le spectacle est payant), Basha près de Congjiang (l'entrée est payante mais ce n'est pas systématique, le spectacle l'est), Guilin et Yangshuo.
Yangshuo et alentours c'est bien, mais pas le WE car c'est cohue et vacarme assuré par les touristes.
Je vais mettre un compte rendu pratique sur mon site prochainement et le signalerai sur voyageforum.
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La conduite est-elle compliquée voire risquée dans cette région.?
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Tara
Hi there,
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
Can anyone recommend a way to transfer from Narita Airport to Haneda Airport? Is the bus the simplest option? Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation. I do stone sculpture. I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history. Marie
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation. I do stone sculpture. I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history. Marie
Hello,
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan. From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan. Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan? (I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us? (According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara - Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights - Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights - Himeji: 1 night - Kyoto: 4 nights - Kanazawa: 2 nights - Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights - Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights - Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks) Departure from Tokyo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan. From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan. Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan? (I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us? (According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara - Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights - Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights - Himeji: 1 night - Kyoto: 4 nights - Kanazawa: 2 nights - Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights - Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights - Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks) Departure from Tokyo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA General You’ll need to download and set up a few apps: - Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip) - Didi for taxis - Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways) - A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results) - Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy. - HelloRide for bikes - Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things. - HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats) - Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city. For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet. Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out. Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town. The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully. Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off. Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant. The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example. We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly. We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice. Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down. 45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up. We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day. In the city, check out...
Chengdu Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill. Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out. Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights. Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us. All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that. The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border) Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM General: - You’ll need the Grab app for taxis - Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead. - Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai 2 km between the border and the train station. The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think). Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves. There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops. Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour). The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An 45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot. Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go. The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc No Grab in the city, but regular taxis. One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon. 250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike) The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate. Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA General: - Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere. Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example. The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride. Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise. Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas. By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour. Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere. Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours. If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon. For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones. Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours. Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap) Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city. Show tip: The Phare Circus
CHINA General You’ll need to download and set up a few apps: - Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip) - Didi for taxis - Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways) - A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results) - Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy. - HelloRide for bikes - Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things. - HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats) - Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city. For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet. Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out. Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town. The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully. Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off. Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant. The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example. We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly. We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice. Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down. 45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up. We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day. In the city, check out...
Chengdu Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill. Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out. Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights. Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us. All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that. The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border) Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM General: - You’ll need the Grab app for taxis - Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead. - Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai 2 km between the border and the train station. The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think). Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves. There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops. Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour). The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An 45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot. Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go. The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc No Grab in the city, but regular taxis. One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon. 250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike) The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate. Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA General: - Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere. Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example. The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride. Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise. Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas. By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour. Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere. Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours. If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon. For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones. Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours. Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap) Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city. Show tip: The Phare Circus
Hi there,
What do you think of this itinerary for a first 15-day trip to China?
Day 1 to 4: Beijing
Day 5 to 6: Datong - Yungang
Day 6 to 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11 to 15: Shanghai
Itinerary:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HXdGotaSPgQThoi19?g_st=iw
Day 1 to 4: Beijing
Day 5 to 6: Datong - Yungang
Day 6 to 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11 to 15: Shanghai
Itinerary:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HXdGotaSPgQThoi19?g_st=iw
hi
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much. philippe
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much. philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City Jinshanling → Great Wall Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars Fenghuang → riverside houses Ping’an → terraced rice fields Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City Jinshanling → Great Wall Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars Fenghuang → riverside houses Ping’an → terraced rice fields Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
Hi, I’m planning a Paris–Hong Kong round trip with a return from Chongqing to Paris, spanning 28 days in November 2026.
The flight is with Air China, with a few hours’ layover in Beijing each time (I plan to stay inside the airport).
I’ve reread the conditions several times, but since I’m never entirely sure, I’d love your input.
Are we all clear that visa exemptions apply?
For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?
Thanks for your insights.
The flight is with Air China, with a few hours’ layover in Beijing each time (I plan to stay inside the airport).
I’ve reread the conditions several times, but since I’m never entirely sure, I’d love your input.
Are we all clear that visa exemptions apply?
For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?
Thanks for your insights.
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Hey everyone,
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
hi there
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
Hi there,
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.






