Itinéraire en 4x4 en pays Dogon (Mali)
by Pilounoupilo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
nous souhaitons partir à deux dans le sud est du mali en pays dogon (j'y suis allé en avion en juillet en avion via ougadoudou) et vu la situation nous hesitons a passer par la mauritanie et direct mali ou passer par le senegal guinée sud mali ou cote d'ivoire burkina et pays dogon.j'attens tous vos conseils deitineraire de dangers de visas et etc .merci
Salut
Sénégal, Guinée (etc) ça fait un sacré détour! A moins que tu aies du temps...
Si nous devions y aller actuellement voici où on passerai. Nouakchott>>Kiffa>>piste(super)>> Kayes. Voir dans cette discution, c'est toujours d'actualité: http://voyageforum.com/forum/retour_voyage_en_4x4_pistes_faire_en_mauritanie_D1676770/
Aprés il y a 2 options: Bamako>>Pays Dogon où Bamako>>Bobo>>Ouaga>>Pays Dogon. Nous choisirions la 2ème solution. Bonne prépa😎
Sénégal, Guinée (etc) ça fait un sacré détour! A moins que tu aies du temps...
Si nous devions y aller actuellement voici où on passerai. Nouakchott>>Kiffa>>piste(super)>> Kayes. Voir dans cette discution, c'est toujours d'actualité: http://voyageforum.com/forum/retour_voyage_en_4x4_pistes_faire_en_mauritanie_D1676770/
Aprés il y a 2 options: Bamako>>Pays Dogon où Bamako>>Bobo>>Ouaga>>Pays Dogon. Nous choisirions la 2ème solution. Bonne prépa😎
Cha&Gab
SALUT !!
Heu !! j'espère ne pas me tromper !! mais les "barbus" ne sont ils pas déjà a Douentza ?? Et le pays Dogon c'est au Mali !! tout prêt de Douentza ..... Pourquoi passer par Bobo et Ouaga ?? villes du Burkina
Cordialement de PAPY
Heu !! j'espère ne pas me tromper !! mais les "barbus" ne sont ils pas déjà a Douentza ?? Et le pays Dogon c'est au Mali !! tout prêt de Douentza ..... Pourquoi passer par Bobo et Ouaga ?? villes du Burkina
Cordialement de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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Bonjour,
pays dogon ça craint pas mal pour l'instant, j'ai de mauvaises infos depuis mopti... Pour rejoindre Bamako, par kiffa comme dit plus haut ou alors par Sénégal en suivant le fleuve et rentrer par Kidira. Les 2 (ou 3 en discutant) jours de passe avant laisse le tps de faire la route ss passer par dakar ce que j'ai fait l'an dernier. Ensuite kayes bamako par piste ou goudron si vs avez un 4x4. Bien voyageusement.
Jef
pays dogon ça craint pas mal pour l'instant, j'ai de mauvaises infos depuis mopti... Pour rejoindre Bamako, par kiffa comme dit plus haut ou alors par Sénégal en suivant le fleuve et rentrer par Kidira. Les 2 (ou 3 en discutant) jours de passe avant laisse le tps de faire la route ss passer par dakar ce que j'ai fait l'an dernier. Ensuite kayes bamako par piste ou goudron si vs avez un 4x4. Bien voyageusement.
Jef
On apprend plus en voyageant qu'en lisant mille livres...
SALUT !!
Heu !! j'espère ne pas me tromper !! mais les "barbus" ne sont ils pas déjà a Douentza ?? Et le pays Dogon c'est au Mali !! tout prêt de Douentza ..... Pourquoi passer par Bobo et Ouaga ?? villes du Burkina
Cordialement de PAPY
merci de l'info que je viens d'avoir egalement.par le burkina ça risque de devenir dangereux aussi.je reporte.à quand.alors là je ne suis pas optimiste pierre
Heu !! j'espère ne pas me tromper !! mais les "barbus" ne sont ils pas déjà a Douentza ?? Et le pays Dogon c'est au Mali !! tout prêt de Douentza ..... Pourquoi passer par Bobo et Ouaga ?? villes du Burkina
Cordialement de PAPY
merci de l'info que je viens d'avoir egalement.par le burkina ça risque de devenir dangereux aussi.je reporte.à quand.alors là je ne suis pas optimiste pierre
he oui les barbus sont maintenant a douentza et s'apprete a se rapprocher de moptI je reporte.à quand?ça je ne sais pas .je ne suis pas trés optimiste.quel bande cons!et ce gouvernement pourri! je pars en4 'x4 au maroc et en decembre je pars au tchad avec point afrique.merci de ta réponse.pierre
J'y vais en 4x4 en février, comme l'an dernier je passe par Alger Tamanrasset, Gao, Niamey, Ouagadougou, Koro pour eviter la zone Nouaktchott Nioro, bourrée de fanatiques religieux et c'est 500km plus court avec en plus le gas oil algerien a 12 cents ! Oui, les félés sont a douentza mais il ne rentreront jamais en pays dogon, je pense.
Ca passe par là? 🤪
Tam Arlit serai presque moins risqué😮
?
Tam Arlit serai presque moins risqué😮
?
On apprend plus en voyageant qu'en lisant mille livres...
Je te remercie de ton message.mais gao est occupé par les barbus?
Gao? tu dois te gourrer non?
non non depuis le 27 juin et ils sont à douentza depuis septembre
non non depuis le 27 juin et ils sont à douentza depuis septembre
pas Gao, Agadezt, , c'est mon envie de revoir Gao qui me fait dérailler
Bonjour
Vous savez que 6 gars viennent de se faire enlever à Dakoro au Niger ? les salafs se sont ensuite dirigés vers Tahoua pour les exfiltrer au Mali.
Bref sud algérien, nord Mali, nord niégerien sont éminnement dangereux.
Et si ils vous arrivent un truc car ils sont a la recherche de boucliers humains en prévision d une intervention, vous n etes pas seuls a payer les pots cassés. Les militaires, émissaires et autres qui seront en charge de vous récupérer paieront aussi le prix.
Ensuite en plus aller raconter votre trajet sur un site en acces ouvert, c est pas bien malin non plus.
Mais bon Ancar Eddine a bien chopé puis relaché un espagnol en vélo a Niafunke...
Vous savez que 6 gars viennent de se faire enlever à Dakoro au Niger ? les salafs se sont ensuite dirigés vers Tahoua pour les exfiltrer au Mali.
Bref sud algérien, nord Mali, nord niégerien sont éminnement dangereux.
Et si ils vous arrivent un truc car ils sont a la recherche de boucliers humains en prévision d une intervention, vous n etes pas seuls a payer les pots cassés. Les militaires, émissaires et autres qui seront en charge de vous récupérer paieront aussi le prix.
Ensuite en plus aller raconter votre trajet sur un site en acces ouvert, c est pas bien malin non plus.
Mais bon Ancar Eddine a bien chopé puis relaché un espagnol en vélo a Niafunke...
Je sais tout çà et evidemment mon voyage est reporté à des jours meilleurs sans étre trés optimiste
J'y vais en 4x4 en février, comme l'an dernier je passe par Alger Tamanrasset, Gao, Niamey, Ouagadougou, Koro pour eviter la zone Nouaktchott Nioro, bourrée de fanatiques religieux et c'est 500km plus court avec en plus le gas oil algerien a 12 cents ! Oui, les félés sont a douentza mais il ne rentreront jamais en pays dogon, je pense.
Bonjour, Je me demande bien comment tu fais pour passer par Tamanrasset, puis ensuite passer au Niger (Agadez je suppose), car depuis plus d'un an il est impossible d'obtenir l'autorisation de descendre par ces pistes. Depuis longtemps déjà, pour aller dans le sud de l'Algérie, il faut un guide obligatoire, envoyé par une agence, après avoir obtenu les autorisations. Or depuis l'an dernier, tout est suspendu, même les visas semblent ne plus être donnés aux européens qui veulent descendre dans le sud. Cela fait plusieurs années que les Tassilis du Hoggar sont fermés au tourisme et le passage est filtré par l'armée. La raison de tout cela ? c'est que cette zone est reconnue dangereuse. Ce n'est franchement pas le meilleur passage ! De toutes façons, si les salafistes sont à Douentza qui est la porte d'entrée du Pays Dogon, c'est qu'ils sont aussi en bas de la falaise !! Pauvres Dogons, pauvres maliens, je les plains, même ceux qui nous "cassaient les pieds" à Motpi ou à Djenné....
Bonjour, Je me demande bien comment tu fais pour passer par Tamanrasset, puis ensuite passer au Niger (Agadez je suppose), car depuis plus d'un an il est impossible d'obtenir l'autorisation de descendre par ces pistes. Depuis longtemps déjà, pour aller dans le sud de l'Algérie, il faut un guide obligatoire, envoyé par une agence, après avoir obtenu les autorisations. Or depuis l'an dernier, tout est suspendu, même les visas semblent ne plus être donnés aux européens qui veulent descendre dans le sud. Cela fait plusieurs années que les Tassilis du Hoggar sont fermés au tourisme et le passage est filtré par l'armée. La raison de tout cela ? c'est que cette zone est reconnue dangereuse. Ce n'est franchement pas le meilleur passage ! De toutes façons, si les salafistes sont à Douentza qui est la porte d'entrée du Pays Dogon, c'est qu'ils sont aussi en bas de la falaise !! Pauvres Dogons, pauvres maliens, je les plains, même ceux qui nous "cassaient les pieds" à Motpi ou à Djenné....
Cordialement
Marie-Geneviève
Je sais pas, en décembre 2011 le Hoggar a été férmé aux touristes 15 jours, je ne suis au courant de rien d'autre, j'y étai en janvier 2012. Voila plus de 10 ans que je circule dans le sud algérien sans guide, un seul poste frontière fait le forcing pour imposer un guide, c'est une magouille entre les guides et la paf de El Oued, c'est connu! tous passent ailleurs, ils ont du oublier de vous prévenir.
Je sais pas, en décembre 2011 le Hoggar a été férmé aux touristes 15 jours, je ne suis au courant de rien d'autre, j'y étai en janvier 2012. Voila plus de 10 ans que je circule dans le sud algérien sans guide, un seul poste frontière fait le forcing pour imposer un guide, c'est une magouille entre les guides et la paf de El Oued, c'est connu! tous passent ailleurs, ils ont du oublier de vous prévenir.
Alors je me demande bien comment tu fais pour éviter les très nombreux contrôles militaires que nous rencontrons dans tout le sud algérien depuis plus de 6 ans... très pointilleux sur les papiers d'autorisations...
Je t'admire, tu es plus fort que tout le monde
Cordialement
Alors je me demande bien comment tu fais pour éviter les très nombreux contrôles militaires que nous rencontrons dans tout le sud algérien depuis plus de 6 ans... très pointilleux sur les papiers d'autorisations...
Je t'admire, tu es plus fort que tout le monde
Cordialement
Cordialement
Marie-Geneviève
Effectivement, j ai lu cela, c est pour cela que mon msg est adressé à Robertgmbh...
Et idem, rien de bien réjouissant a court et moyen terme pour le Nord Mali.
Je n'ai guère eu de problèmes de ce coté la, c'est vrai que qd je tombe sur un con, je lui dit qu'un guide m'attend 50km plus loin !J'ai même eu un laissé passer pour la piste Reggane vers bordj bagi moktar il y a 2 ans, au moins j'ai pu la faire une dernière fois avant le goudron qui est presque fini jusqu'a Timiaouine
Si tu hésites encore, un très bon sujet sur M6 ce soir :
http://www.m6.fr/emission-enquete_exclusive/21-10-2012-le_desert_de_tous_les_dangers_des_francais_dans_le_piege_du_sahel/
Il faut juste espérer que cela va bientôt se calmer, car moi aussi j'attends avec impatience de pouvoir retourner dans ce merveilleux pays..
Cordialement
http://www.m6.fr/emission-enquete_exclusive/21-10-2012-le_desert_de_tous_les_dangers_des_francais_dans_le_piege_du_sahel/
Il faut juste espérer que cela va bientôt se calmer, car moi aussi j'attends avec impatience de pouvoir retourner dans ce merveilleux pays..
Cordialement
Cordialement
Marie-Geneviève
hé oui moi aussi j'attends pour retourner voir mes amis de kanikombolé mais je ne suis pas trés optimiste
Je ne m'étendrai pas plus, les sites sont lus ! Ni mes dates, ni mon itinéraire précis, ni même mes "astuces" pour ne pas être repérés ne paraitront ici. Désolé de ne pas en dire plus
bonjour,
Gardez vos secrets pour vous ! Car je pense que vous savez ce que vous faites de votre vie ? Avez-vous une famille ? J'espère qu'elle ne sera pas obligée de "rejoindre" les familles des otages déjà fait dans cette région. Bon courage quand même.
Car je pense que si vous écoutez les infos, des Djihadistes arrivent parait-il en masse dans le Nord du Mali pour contrer l'éventuelle intervention militaire qui devrait avoir lieu !!!!
Une de mes collègues est partie voir sa famille, mais hélas sur Bamako seulement, j'attends sont retour pour savoir ce qu'il se passe là bas, car je peux dire que nous avons tous des amis au Mali....
LuJu
J'ai des amis en ce moment a Mopti, a Niamey, a Agadez, a Douentza, a Gao, et a Tessalit, effectivement une bataille se prépare mais pas pour tout de suite, on en reparlera ds un mois au moins
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Hi there,
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
Hi,
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!






