Hello les forumeurs !
Voilà, j'ai besoin de votre aide car je planche sur un voyage en Namibie pour le mois d'avril prochain. J'ai listé les lieux que je voudrais voir et je dois faire rentrer tout ça dans seulement deux semaines ! Je sais, c'est court mais je n'ai pas le choix... La première ébauche donne ça :
Jour 0 - Départ de Francfort, vol direct pour Windhoek
Jour 1 - Récupération 4x4, courses et route jusqu'à Sesriem
Jour 2 - Dead Vlei, Sossusvlei, puis route vers Walvis Bay
Jour 3 - Safari aquatique et Sandwich Harbour
Jour 4 - Route et Twyfelfontein
Jour 5 - Route et Epupa Falls
Jour 6 - Visite d'un village himba et route vers Etosha
Jour 7 - Etosha
Jour 8 - Etosha
Jour 9 - Matinée à Etosha et route vers le Botswana (arrêt où ?)
Jour 10 - Route vers le delta d'Okavango
Jour 11 - Delta d'Okavango
Jour 12 - Delta d'Okavango
Jour 13 - Route et réserve privée près de Gobabis
Jour 14 - Réserve privée près de Gobabis et visite d'un village bushmen
Jour 15 - Route et vol de retour depuis Windhoek
Je sais que ce trip est difficilement réalisable en l'état à cause des distances. J'ai donc besoin de vous pour le rendre faisable. Comment procéder ? Quoi enlever ? Est-ce que quelque chose d'essentiel a été oublié ?
Pour info, nous serons trois 4x4 avec enfants et dormirons deux nuits sur trois en camping et une nuit sur trois en lodge...
Je sais que ce trip est difficilement réalisable en l'état à cause des distances. J'ai donc besoin de vous pour le rendre faisable. Comment procéder ? Quoi enlever ? Est-ce que quelque chose d'essentiel a été oublié ?
En 15 jours, difficile de faire plus que la boucle suivante (si tu tiens à faire une boucle ?) :
Cette ébauche de circuit, tu la trouveras dans cette discussion ICI (message 8)
Je m'en suis moi-même inspiré pour établir notre parcours que j'ai fait en 20 jours au lieu de 15 mais en 15 jours, c'est tout à fait faisable.
Peut-être qu'il y a d'autres possiblités avec un retour depuis le Botswana, mais avec abandon de véhicule et vols supplémentaires (donc frais supplémentaires). Je laisse les spécialistes des combinés Namibie/Botswana te donner leur sentiment 🤪.
Trop ambitieux 😊 laisse tomber le botswana, concentrez vous sur la namibie ..
dejà au jour 2 vous serez sur les genoux 😉 et vous ne laissez aucune place aux impondérables.. crevaisons, retardataires du convoi (3 voitures ne roulent jamais au même rtyhme...ou alors on se fache 🤪).. arrets enfants...😎 etc...
même en arrivant le matin de Franckfurt... être le soir a Sesriem c'est chaud.
après il faut passer 1 journée complete dans la vallée si non sert a rien d'être venu là..🙂
et considerer une journée complete de piste pour rejoindre Walwis le lendemain etc .. il y a des arrets a faire Solitaire et la baraque à moose, le canyon de Kuiseb etc ..
Ok ! Et si je zappe le Botswana pour me concentrer uniquement sur la Namibie, que me conseilles-tu vraiment comme incontournable entre Walvis Bay et la grande remontée jusqu'aux Epupa Falls ? J'aimerais faire cette remontée en trois jours...
Idem entre Epupa et Etosha (en deux jours), puis entre Etosha et Gobabis (en deux jours)...
Ok ! Et si je zappe le Botswana pour me concentrer uniquement sur la Namibie, que me conseilles-tu vraiment comme incontournable entre Walvis Bay et la grande remontée jusqu'aux Epupa Falls ? J'aimerais faire cette remontée en trois jours...
C'est Damaraland express ? En 2 semaines, il faut zapper Epupa aussi.
Idem entre Epupa et Etosha (en deux jours)
Étape autour de Kamanjab. Eventuellement Otjitotongwe pour que les enfants puissent toucher des guépards. Mais l'accueil y est un peu rebutant.
puis entre Etosha et Gobabis (en deux jours)
La seule étape d'un peu d'intérêt, c'est Waterberg.
Tu penses à Harnas dans le coin ? Pas mal, mais franchement, ça ne vaut pas le détour et toutes ces bornes pas passionnantes, ni pour y aller ni pour revenir vers Windhoek.
Si tu veux rencontrer des Bushmen dans des conditions à peu près correctes : Grashoek sur la route de Tsumkwe.
Ok ! Et si je zappe le Botswana pour me concentrer uniquement sur la Namibie, que me conseilles-tu vraiment comme incontournable entre Walvis Bay et la grande remontée jusqu'aux Epupa Falls ? J'aimerais faire cette remontée en trois jours...
Le "minimum syndical" 😉, c'est :
1. Walvis Bay - Brandberg (4/5 heures de route)
2. Brandberg - Twyfelfontein - Palmwag ( 4/5 heures de route)
3. Palmwag - Opuwo - Epupa Falls (7/8 heures de route)
Mais si tu ne prévois pas au moins une journée entière à Epupa le lendemain, quel intérêt de faire autant de km ?
Idem entre Epupa et Etosha (en deux jours),
1. Epupa falls - Kamanjab (6/7 heures de route)
2. Kamanjab - Etosha (Okaukuejo) (4 heures de route + trajets dans le parc).
Mais Etosha nécessite au moins 3 jours et ne se traverse pas d'une traite. Le but est de silloner le parc à la rencontre des animaux, donc dans l'idéal 1 nuit à Halali et 1 nuit à Namutoni en plus de celle à Okaukuejo.
puis entre Etosha et Gobabis (en deux jours)...
Pourquoi Gobabis ? Vu le peu de temps dont tu disposes, d'Etosha tu vas Windhoek via une étape du côté d'Otjiwarongo (Okonjima par ex)
Namutoni - Otjiwarongo (4/5 heures de route)
Otjiwarongo - Windhoek (3/4 heures de route)
Je ne vois pas trop comment tu peux faire entrer tout ça en 15 jours. En général le détour vers Epupa falls s'envisage quand on dispose de 3 semaines au minimum.
N'oublie pas que tu vas rouler presque tout le temps sur des pistes dont la vitesse maximale autorisée est de 80 km/h. Par conséquent ta vitesse moyenne sera plus proche de 60 km/h. Un trajet de 300/400 km va donc te prendre une bonne partie de la journée.🤪
J'étais parti sur :
Jour 1 - Route Windhoek - Sesriem
Jour 2 - Sesriem
Jour 3 - Route et Walvis Bay
Jour 4 - Walvis Bay
Jour 5 - Route et Brandberg
Jour 6 - Route et Palmwag
Jour 7 - Route, Opuwo et arrivée à Epupa
Jour 8 - Epupa
Jour 9 - Route et Kamandjab
Jour 10 - Route et Etosha
Jour 11 - Etosha
Jour 12 - Etosha
Jour 13 - Route et réserve privé près de Gobabis (impératif)
Jour 14 - Réserve près de Gobabis
Jour 15 - Route vers Windhoek et avion
Pas jouable ? Il faut tout revoir ?
Et sinon, les temps de route de Google Maps ne sont pas réalistes ?
Merci d'avance,
J'étais parti sur :
Jour 1 - Route Windhoek - Sesriem
Jour 2 - Sesriem
Jour 3 - Route et Walvis Bay
Jour 4 - Walvis Bay
Jour 5 - Route et Brandberg
Jour 6 - Route et Palmwag
Jour 7 - Route, Opuwo et arrivée à Epupa
Jour 8 - Epupa
Jour 9 - Route et Kamandjab
Jour 10 - Route et Etosha
Jour 11 - Etosha
Jour 12 - Etosha
Jour 13 - Route et réserve privé près de Gobabis (impératif)
Jour 14 - Réserve près de Gobabis
Jour 15 - Route vers Windhoek et avion
Pas jouable ? Il faut tout revoir ?
Et sinon, les temps de route de Google Maps ne sont pas réalistes ?
Merci d'avance,
bj
Si je peux me permettre une suggestion...😉 tu ne rallyraid pas... tu découvres..
Reprends ton planning et pose toi la question de savoir combien de temps tu veux profiter de tes arrêts aux différents étapes..
Après tu rajoutes tes étapes de liaisons et tu composes..avec une marge raisonnable.
lever du jour à 7H00/7h30 et nuit vers 18h00 n'oublie pas c'est fin d'automne il faut raisonnablement être posé ou à l'étape pour 17h00.. les journées seront toujours trop courtes...
les temps de route sont ce qu'ils sont sur Gogle ou ailleurs... les horaires SNCF chez nous aussi sont élastiques 😛... alors là bas.. la théorie 😇
A mon avis vous construisez votre séjour a l'envers.
Il faut plutot se dire Qu'est-ce que je veux voir ? Quelles vont être mes visites ou activités incontournables ? Combien de temps je veux y passer ?
Parce que la vous n'allez que rallier des points pour y dormir.
2 exemples
Walvis bay on aime ou on n'aime pas mais si vous y aller (moi je choisirais plutot Swakop), il faut prendre le temps de faire quelques activites au choix : la sortie en mer, le living desert tour, sandwich harbor, aller dans les dunes, un resto sympa le soir (the tug hummmm a Swakop), flaner en ville... etc
Donc impossible de repartir sans une deuxième nuit.
Palwag, vraiment domage de ne pas y rester au moins une journée complète. Un des derniers endroits au monde ou les animaux sont en totale libertée : Game drive, promenade a pieds, balade dans la conservancy, viste du Save the Rhino Trust....
Et en plus avec de la chance on peut voir des éléphants dans le camping !!!
Voila quelques idées si cela peut vous aider.
Par curiosité quelle est votre étape impérative à Gobabis ? J'ai une petite idée...
En fait, nous serons 6 adultes. Et mon pote qui monte le voyage avec moi doit y aller pour y voir le propriétaire qui est un de ses amis et qui nous y accueille...
J'espère que tu as prévu d'arriver en J0 car sinon c'est impossible. Pour la prise en charge du véhicule, les courses... il faut compter une demi-journée. En arrivant à 6 heures du matin, nous n'avons quitté Windhoek qu'en fin de matinée.
Pour le reste, c'est beaucoup trop speed à mon goût 😕 mais comme ce n'est pas mon voyage... 😉
Pas jouable ? Il faut tout revoir ?
Si tu souhaites vraiment découvrir la Namibie à ce rythme, c'est sans doute jouable... 🤪. En tout cas, sur le papier, c'est jouable 😛. Après ?
Et sinon, les temps de route de Google Maps ne sont pas réalistes ?
Disons qu'ils sont très optimistes et qu'ils ne prennent pas en compte les arrêts divers (photos, pique-nique...) d'autant que vous êtes en convoi de 3 véhicules et avec des enfants. Ajoute au moins 1 à 2 heures aux temps indiqués.
Si je me réfère à nos temps de parcours, il faut compter 60 km à l'heure en moyenne. Un parcours de 250 km te prendra donc minimum 4 heures. Un parcours comme celui de Palmwag à Epupa Falls = + 400 km = 7 heures mini.
Bonne nouvelle, nous allons certainement pouvoir allonger le voyage de 3 jours... Vous allez me dire que ce n'est pas du luxe ! Et plus ça vient, plus je lis vos remarques et plus je me dis que je vais supprimer Epupa que je vais remplacer par le delta de l'Okavongo... Supprimer Epupa (ça nous fait gagner 3 jours) et récupérer trois autres jours vont nous permettre d'y aller plus lentement et de voir un bout du Botswana...
Après, la route ne me dérange pas trop... Nous voyageons beaucoup et je ne reste généralement pas très longtemps au même endroit. J'ai un peu la bougeotte... Mais bon, j'essaie de prendre en compte vos messages pour lesquels je vous remercie... Ma nouvelle copie donnerait ça. Je suis encore preneur de vos remarques :
Jour 1 - Récupération du 4x4 et route vers Sesriem (4h30), sunset si possible sur Elim dune, camping de Sesriem
Jour 2 - Dune 45 (pour lever du soleil), Dead Vlei, Sossusvlei, Solitaire (1h45), nuit au Gecko Camp
Jour 3 – Route vers Walvis Bay (passage par le tropique du Capricorne), Swapkopmund, nuit au Lagoon lodge
Jour 4 – Safari marin + Sandwich sand en 4x4 (cela vaut le coup ?), route jusque Spitzkoppe (2h30), nuit à Spitkoppe
Jour 5 – Spitzkoppe, Twyfelfontein (3h40 pour y arriver), nuit au Mowani Mountain Camp
Jour 6 – Palmwag et Sesfontein, visite d’un village himba (si vous avez des infos...)
Jour 7 – Etosha (4h30 pour y arriver), nuit à Okaukuejo
Jour 8 – Etosha, nuit à Namutoni
Jour 9 – Etosha
Jour 10 – Etosha le matin, route pour Rundu (5h30)
Jour 11 – Parc près de Rundu (si vous avez des idées), nuit au Xaro lodge
Jour 12 – Route vers Maun en longeant l'Okavango
Jour 13 – Réserve de Moremi, nuit au camp de Kaziikini
Jour 14 – Delta de l’Okavango, excursion à bord des mokoros (si vous avez des tuyaux), nuit au camp de Kaziikini
Jour 15 – Delta de l'Okavango, survol du delta en avion (si vous avez des tuyaux), route jusque Ghanzi
Jour 16 – Route jusque Zelda (près de Gobabis), soirée chez les bushmen
Jour 17 – Journée dans la réserve de Zelda
Jour 18 – Route vers Windhoek et vol de retour
Encore une fois, merci d'avance
Je suis une rapide (pour un 1er voyage découverte où je préfère avoir un aperçu global et varié plutôt que de m'attarder longuement ds le même coin)... mais là, je pense que c'est vraiment trop rapide, d'autant plus que :
- tu voyages avec de jeunes enfants qui vont détester rouler pdt des heures ts les jours, en étant secoués à l'arrière du véhicule car bcp de gravels roads resurfacées régulièrement ont l'aspect tôle ondulée (pour éviter cet effet shaker, il vaut mieux faire du off road... mais ça prend du temps...)
- et que tu prévois de camper (et camper signifie monter et démonter son camp chaque jour, faire ses courses, faire sa popotte, sa vaisselle... tout cela est très chronophage et t'oblige à arriver bien avant la nuit à l'étape du jour)
Au plus vite (et en prenant qq repas au lodge qd c'est possible, pour gagner du temps) mais en ayant le temps suffisant pour avoir l’aperçu essentiel, tu peux faire ceci:
J1 : vol de nuit
J2 : arrivée à Windhoek à 6h du mat’, rte et nuit ds le Kalahari (Bagatelle ou Anib Lodge)
300km/3 à 5h00 (suivant qu'on emprunte l'autoroute ou les pistes)
J3 : Route vers Sesriem (sunset à la Dune Elim: démarrer de Sesriem 2h30 avant le sunset pour avoir le temps de grimper sur la dune ) 300km/4h00
J4 : Sesriem (Dead Vlei + Sossusvlei + Dune 45) jusque 14h00, puis rte 110km/1h30 > Gecko Camp ou Barchan Dune (avec pause à Solitaire)
J5 : Gecko Camp ou Barchan Dune – Walvis Bay (perso, je préfère Walvis Bay à Swakopmund) 240km/3h30
J6 : Walvis Bay – Walvis Bay (excursion combinée mer/ 4x4 Mola Mola... les enfants vont adorer... )
J7 : Walvis Bay – Brandberg , via le Spitzkoppe 320 Km/4h30
Si tu vas direct par la C35, ça devrait aller + vite ....sauf si tu en profites pour faire un détour par la piste D 2342 pour aller longer le massif du Brandberg (splendide)
J9 : Palmwag – Sesfontein (visite conseillée de la Palmwag Concession, possible en self drive) 115km/2h00
J10 : Sesfontein – Opuwo (courses !) 150km/3h00 (ou direct Epupa mais arrivée en 2ème partie d’aprèm)
J11 : (Opuwo-) Epupa 180km /2h30
J12 : Epupa – Kunene River Lodge, via Epembe 160km/2h45
J13 : Kunene River Lodge – Etosha (Dolomite Camp), via Ruacana + C35 (> Galton Gate) 330km/5h00
J14 : Etosha (nuit à Okaukuejo)
J15 : Etosha (nuit à Halali)
J16 : Etosha (nuit à Namutoni ou Onguma Bush Camp)
J17 : retour vers Windhoek (Waterberg ?), (nuit à ?)
J18 : vol de retour
Tu vois que 15 jours ne suffisent pas ... et je n'ai pas prévu d'étape à Gobabis...
Tout dépend aussi si les vols d'avion sont des vols de nuit ou de jour.
EDIT: j'ai posté ma réponse avant de voir la tienne
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Moi aussi j'aime rouler, mais là ça ne tient toujours pas la route. Encore moins que la version précédente.
J1 : impossible
J 2/3 : OK
J4 : impossible d'arriver à Spitzkoppe avant la nuit, du coup aucun intérêt.
J6 : encore trop juste, pas de temps pour la concession de Palmwag.
J7, 8, 9 : possibilité d'enlever une nuit à Etosha.
J10 : OK
J11 : Mahango. Il n'y a pas vraiment autre chose sur la route. Popa Falls est fermé pour travaux. Xaro Lodge OK mais vous y serez trop tard pour un tour en bateau.
J12 : journée de route interminable, sans voir une miette d'Okavango. Sur le Panhandle, il faut aller dans les camps ou lodges, sinon il n'y a strictement rien à voir.
J13/14 : deux jours dans Moremi depuis Kaziikini... Tu les auras mérités avec toutes ces bornes sans intérêt avant et après ! Si tu veux faire du Mokoro : Guma Lagoon sur le Panhandle (donc avant).
J15 : les survols se font en début ou en fin de journée. Pas possible de le faire et d'être à Ghanzi le soir.
J 16/17/18 : Zelda, il n'y a vraiment pas de quoi se rouler par terre, c'est une étape. Mais si raisons personnelles, je m'incline. Les Bushmen sont les employés de la ferme (mais c'est à peu près partout pareil).
Pour des temps de parcours réalistes : Tracks4Africa (en rajoutant 20 % pour les arrêts et pour le mouchard du loueur).
Bonne nouvelle, nous allons certainement pouvoir allonger le voyage de 3 jours...
Ça, c'est effectivement une bonne nouvelle ! 🙂
plus je lis vos remarques et plus je me dis que je vais supprimer Epupa que je vais remplacer par le delta de l'Okavongo... Supprimer Epupa (ça nous fait gagner 3 jours) et récupérer trois autres jours vont nous permettre d'y aller plus lentement et de voir un bout du Botswana...
Dommage car si tu avais tout simplement amélioré ta version précédente en la portant à 18 jours, elle aurait pu être pertinente... alors que là d'après ce que je lis (car je ne connais pas cette partie), ça n'a pas l'air d'être vraiment top ! 😕
Voici ce pourrait donner en 18 jours ta version de 15 jours (en gardant la réserve à Gobabis impérative et en faisant un mix à partir de tes suggestions et celles de Bastinj). A partir de là, il y a plusieurs variantes possibles selon que l'on décide de s'attarder à un endroit plutôt qu'à un autre.
Jour 1 - arrivée à Windhoek
Jour 2 - Route Windhoek - Sesriem
Jour 3 - Sesriem
Jour 4 - Sesriem - Gecko Camp
Jour 5 - Gecko Camp - Walvis Bay
Jour 6 - Walvis Bay
Jour 7 - Walvis Bay - Spitzkoppe
Jour 8 - Spitzkoppe - Brandberg
Jour 9 - Brandberg - Twyfelfontein - Palmwag
Jour 10 - Palmwag - Sesfontein
Jour 11 - Sesfontein - Epupa Falls
Jour 12 - Epupa Falls - Dolomite
Jour 13 - Etosha
Jour 14 - Etosha
Jour 15 - Otjiwarongo (Okonjima ?) ou Waterberg
Jour 16 - Otjiw - réserve privé près de Gobabis (impératif)
Jour 17 - Réserve près de Gobabis
Jour 18 - Route vers Windhoek et avion
Je suis également en train de préparer mon circuit pour avril 2014 de 2 semaines.
J'ai passé de longues soirées et beaucoup de WE pluvieux (😕) à lire les messages de VF sur la Namibie, les carnets de voyage ainsi que les magnifiques blogs qui y sont associés.
Au final, souhaitant profiter un minimum de chaque lieu et ne pas être en permanence sur la route, j'ai opté pour le circuit suivant (très inspiré de celui que Christine a fait en novembre dernier 😉)
J1 - Arrivée à Windhoek (Londiningi Guesthouse)
J2 - Windhoek / Sesriem = 360 km de pistes - 5h (Sossus Dune Lodge)
J3 - Sesriem (Sossus Dune Lodge)
J4 - Sesriem / Walvis Bay (ou Swakopmund) = 320 km de pistes - 5h30 (pour WB)
J5 - Walvis Bay ou Swakopmund
J6 - Walvis Bay ou Swakopmund / Spitzkoppe = 200 km de route goudronnée et de piste - 2h30 (Spitzkoppe Restcamp)
J7 - Spitzkoppe / Twyfelfontain = 280 km de pistes - 4h30 (Mowani Mountain Camp)
J8 - Twyfelfontain (Mowani Mountain Camp)
J9 - Twyfelfontain / Etosha = 330 km de pistes - 5h (Okaukuejo RestCamp)
J10 - Etosha (Halali RestCamp)
J11 - Etosha (Namutoni RestCamp)
J12 - Namutoni / Otjiwarongo = 250 km de route goudronnée et de pistes - 3h30 (Okonjima Main Camp)
J13 - Otjiwarongo (Okonjima Main Camp)
J14 - Otjiwarongo / Windhoek (Londiningi GuestHouse)
J15 - Windhoek / vol de retour
J'ai déjà contacté une agence pour préparer le voyage (Madiza). Les distances et durées indiquées m'ont été fournies par elles. Il faut les rallonger pour les pauses photos, pique-nique ...
Déjà, avec notre parcours, nous avons quelques belles journées de voiture (mais nous ne sommes que 2 adultes). Mais alors toi, tu les cumules (avec des enfants). D'autant que certains endroits méritent d'y rester plus d'une nuit.
Tu pourrais t'inspirer de notre circuit (qui est encore perfectible) et y rajouter à la fin, ton impératif à Gobabis.
Certes, je ne suis pas encore partie en Namibie (2014 en encore loin 😕) mais c'est grâce aux nombreux conseils de ceux qui ont déjà visité le pays que j'ai préparé mon voyage (et j'en profite pour les remercier tous de leurs contributions). Il faut prendre leur avis en considération. D'ailleurs, quand j'ai soumis mon projet de circuit à Madiza, mon interlocutrice m'a dit qu'il était très bien et équilibré.
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March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!