bonjour ,
voici mon trajet pour mon premier voyage au Japan debut novembre.
1 arrive at Tokyo Narita 2 Tokyo 3 Tokyo 4 Tokyo 5 Tokyo 6 Tokyo - Nikko 7 Partir de Tokyo . aller a Matsumoto 8 Matsumoto 9 Partir Matsumoto . aller a Takayama 10 Takayama 11 Partir de Takayama . aller Kanazawa 12 Partir Kanazawa . Aller a Kyoto 13 Kyoto 14 Kyoto - Nara 15 Kyoto - Osaka 16 Kyoto 17 Kyoto 18 Kyoto - retour sur Tokyo 19 Narita airport
Devrais je prendre un pass pour 14 ou 21 jours?
car vu le prix du trajet narita / tokyo je me dis que c'est preferable de prendre le pass de 21 jours....
bonjour ,
voici mon trajet pour mon premier voyage au Japan debut novembre.
1 arrive at Tokyo Narita 2 Tokyo 3 Tokyo 4 Tokyo 5 Tokyo 6 Tokyo - Nikko 7 Partir de Tokyo . aller a Matsumoto 8 Matsumoto 9 Partir Matsumoto . aller a Takayama 10 Takayama 11 Partir de Takayama . aller Kanazawa 12 Partir Kanazawa . Aller a Kyoto 13 Kyoto 14 Kyoto - Nara 15 Kyoto - Osaka 16 Kyoto 17 Kyoto 18 Kyoto - retour sur Tokyo 19 Narita airport
Devrais je prendre un pass pour 14 ou 21 jours?
car vu le prix du trajet narita / tokyo je me dis que c'est preferable de prendre le pass de 21 jours....
merci pour votre aide !!!
Salut!
Le problème avec cet itinéraire, c'est qu'aucun pass ne sera rentable...
En effet:
A Tokyo il ne sert que pour aller de Narita à Tokyo... et encore il faut savoir qu'on peut arriver en ville pour 1000 yens par Ueno.
Ensuite, il ne sert à rien rien jusqu'au 7 eme jour... à part sur Chuo line ou Yamanote line qui sont très bon marché.
Pour aller à Nikko, il est préférable de prendre un pass de la compagnie ferroviaire "Tobu" incluant la visite des temples.
Ensuite, le périple dans les Alpes commence par Matsumoto... mais pourquoi faire et par ou? par Nagoya ou par Nagano?
Et ensuite, Takayama et Kanazawa ne sont accessibles que par le bus en ligne directe. (ou alors il faut passer par Nagoya... beaucoup de temps perdu).
Inutile d'activer le pass entre Kanazawa et le kansai, il ne sera jamais rentabilisé. Les déplacements entre Kyoto et Nara ou Ossaka ne coûtent que 4 à 6 euros...
Ensuite, un retour sur Tokyo ne suffira pas non plus pour que ce soit rentable.
Pour s'en convaincre, il suffit de simuler tous ces déplacements sur Hyperdia.com et de comparer avec le prix des JR Pass.
Un pass de 7 jours commence à être rentable à partir d'un aller retour effectué entre Tokyo et Kyoto dans la durée de validité.
Pour rentabiliser un pass de 21 jours, il faut pratiquement aller jusqu'à Kyushu.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Pour le trajet Narita -> Tokyo, le Narita Express (N'ex) offre l'avantage de desservir beaucoup plus de stations que la ligne Keisei. Tout dépend de où tu vas à Tokyo mais cela peut être plus pratique de ne pas avoir à faire de changement avec les valises...
Je pars la semaine prochaine au Japon et j'ai prévu de prendre le Narita Express pour rejoindre mon ryokan à Ikebukuro.
Pense également au combiné N'ex+Suica incluant un aller (ou aller-retour) Narita-Tokyo et la carte Suica prépayée avec 1500¥. Cette carte te facilitera les déplacements pour le métro à Tokyo (notamment) sans savoir à acheter des tickets. Toutes les infos sur le combiné N'ex+Suica: http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/suica-nex/ Attention le combiné aller-retour n'est valable que 2 semaines donc ça n'ira pas pour toi.
Bonjour,
Comme nous serons au Japon en Avril prochain, je me permets de vous poser une petite question concernant la durée de validité. Ex : avec un pass de 7 jours. Mon premier voyage sera lundi 07/04 à 7h du matin.
1 - La validité sera jusqu'à lundi 12/04 à 7h ? OU
2 - La validité sera jusqu'à dimanche 11/04 toute la journée ? OU
3 - L'heure est sans importance. Alors la validité sera jusqu'à lundi 12/04 toute la journée.
pour répondre en utilisant ta date du 07/04, ton jrpass de 7 jours sera valable jusqu'au 13/04 minuit.
l'heure à laquelle tu enclenche ton pass n'entre pas en compte. que tu l'enclenche à 7h du matin ou 20h c'est la même chose pour eux. c'est la journée uniquement qui compte
La date du premier voyage compte pour 1 jour quelque soit l'heure.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Merci beaucoup pour la réponse qui me permet de réfléchir sur l'achat de Pass ou non. En fait, je me suis trompé dans mes questions : Je voulais dire le 14/04 (ou 13/04) et non pas le 12/04 (ou 11/04).
Sinon, si vous êtes dispos (je n'ose pas trop demander ;-)), pourriez-vous me donner vos avis de notre parcours, svp ? Bien entendu, un parcours est un goût de chacun. Merci.
04-avr Ven Paris (11h45) -> Hotel à 05-avr Sam Tokyo (10h30) Tokyo 06-avr Dim Tokyo Tokyo 07-avr Lun Tokyo -> Kyoto Kyoto 08-avr Mar Kyoto Kyoto 09-avr Mer Kyoto Kyoto 10-avr Jeu Kyoto Kyoto 11-avr Ven Kyoto <-> Nara Kyoto 12-avr Sam Kyoto -> Takayama Takayama 13-avr Dim Takayama Takayama 14-avr Lun Takayama -> Tokyo Tokyo 15-avr Mar Tokyo -> Nikko Nikko 16-avr Mer Nikko Nikko 17-avr Jeu Nikko -> Tokyo -> Hakone Hakone 18-avr Ven Hakone Hakone 19-avr Sam Hakone -> Tokyo Tokyo 20-avr Dim Tokyo Tokyo 21-avr Lun Tokyo Tokyo 22-avr Mar Tokyo (12h00) -> Paris (20h55)
Merci beaucoup pour la réponse qui me permet de réfléchir sur l'achat de Pass ou non. En fait, je me suis trompé dans mes questions : Je voulais dire le 14/04 (ou 13/04) et non pas le 12/04 (ou 11/04).
Sinon, si vous êtes dispos (je n'ose pas trop demander ;-)), pourriez-vous me donner vos avis de notre parcours, svp ? Bien entendu, un parcours est un goût de chacun. Merci.
04-avr Ven Paris (11h45) -> Hotel à 05-avr Sam Tokyo (10h30) Tokyo
06-avr Dim Tokyo Tokyo
07-avr Lun Tokyo -> Kyoto
08-avr Mar Kyoto
09-avr Mer Kyoto
10-avr Jeu Kyoto
11-avr Ven Kyoto <-> Nara Kyoto
12-avr Sam Kyoto -> Takayama
13-avr Dim Takayama
14-avr Lun Takayama -> Tokyo
15-avr Mar Tokyo -> Nikko
16-avr Mer Nikko
17-avr Jeu Nikko -> Tokyo -> Hakone
18-avr Ven Hakone
19-avr Sam Hakone -> Tokyo
20-avr Dim Tokyo
21-avr Lun Tokyo
22-avr Mar Tokyo (12h00) -> Paris (20h55)
Moi, j'aime bien votre parcours.
J'ai l'impression que vous êtes un voyageur que je qualifierai de 'lent", qui aime prendre son temps pour bien voir les choses.
Votre choix de visiter Tokyo, Kyoto Takayama Nikko et Hakone vous montrera plusieurs facettes du Japon et vous en aurez un aperçu assez complet.
J'aurai un peu modifié l'ordre des choses car vers le 5 avril ce sera peut être la fin des cerisiers en fleurs à Tokyo si le printemps est précoce. Kyoto également... et vous arriverez peut être à temps à Takayama. A prendre en considération.
Il vous reste maintenant à décortiquer chaque étape pour visiter les lieux incontournables... mais je pense que c'est déjà fait.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
En effet, on aime bien prendre un peu de temps pour chaque étape. Merci pour ton avis.
Comme tout le monde, on aime bien voir les cerisiers en fleurs ;-). Lors de l'achat des billets d'avions nous avions le choix. Mais avec les infos dans les guides, nous avons décidé ces dates. Mais d'après toi c'est un peu tard :-( Dommage pour nous !
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I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
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...
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I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
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I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
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Hello,
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I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
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After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
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Hi there,
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We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
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