Louxor en individuel
by Sielleveut
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous avons la chance de retourner à Louxor en mars pour une semaine.
Nous avons déjà effectué une croisière sur le Nil y il y a quelques années et avions le souhait de revenir à louxor afin de découvrir de façon plus approfondie à un rythme plus calme les alentours.
Dans ce cadre, comment organiser en individuel des excursions avec un guide égyptologue ? Peut-on faire des mini croisières ?
Merci pour vos conseils.
Bonjour,
très facile de se débrouiller par soi-même sur Louqsor et proches environs, il y a pas mal de taxis partout qui voue emmèneront où vous voulez. Pour le guide égyptologue, un vrai sera peut-être plus compliqué à trouver, même si vous trouverez des guides devant chaque curiosité. Maintenant, avec le guide bleu...
Pour des excusions plus lointaines, baladez-vous sur la Corniche, autour du WInter Palace : plein de petites agences vous proposeront leurs services.
Pour la mini-croisière, vous trouverez plein de propositions à l'embarcadère des ferrys pour vous emmener où vous voulez.
Pour l'hôtel, je vous suggère vraiment la West Bank, nettement plus tranquille et moins de harcèlement. En 2011, j'étais là : http://elfayrouz.com/index_frz.htm et j'en garde un excellent souvenir, d'autant que leur resto est excellent.
Pour des excusions plus lointaines, baladez-vous sur la Corniche, autour du WInter Palace : plein de petites agences vous proposeront leurs services.
Pour la mini-croisière, vous trouverez plein de propositions à l'embarcadère des ferrys pour vous emmener où vous voulez.
Pour l'hôtel, je vous suggère vraiment la West Bank, nettement plus tranquille et moins de harcèlement. En 2011, j'étais là : http://elfayrouz.com/index_frz.htm et j'en garde un excellent souvenir, d'autant que leur resto est excellent.
"Voyager, c'est bien utile, ça fait travailler l'imagination.
Tout le reste n'est que déceptions et fatigues." Céline
mes photos de voyage : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fabrice-Bloch-photographe/232403640142664
Bonjour,
Je t'ai envoyé un message privé.
Personnellement lorsque je suis partis l'année dernière en individuel, j'ai contacté une agence locale en France (et payé via virements ) pour avoir un programme personnel .
L'agence était très disponible et tous les échanges se sont fais en Français, tout comme les visites. Le prix était très abordable également. D'ailleurs, j'ai même utiliser le service de chauffeur pour nous ramener à l'aéroport .
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Je t'ai envoyé un message privé.
Personnellement lorsque je suis partis l'année dernière en individuel, j'ai contacté une agence locale en France (et payé via virements ) pour avoir un programme personnel .
L'agence était très disponible et tous les échanges se sont fais en Français, tout comme les visites. Le prix était très abordable également. D'ailleurs, j'ai même utiliser le service de chauffeur pour nous ramener à l'aéroport .
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Bonsoir ,
Rien de plus facile que d'excursionner à Luxor en individuel ; vous vous trouvez un hôtel et, soit seuls, avec un taxi de votre choix si nécessaire, vous vous organisez comme vous voulez : dans ce cas, il faut étudier un peu le problème et vous acheter 1 ou 2 guides . Soit vous faites appel, avant de partir, à un guide si vous craignez de ne pas vous débrouiller .
Dans ce cas de figure, 1 guide - papier peut déjà vous aider à préciser vos choix .
Je pense que, sur le Forum Routard, qq un vous a donné un site fort riche en renseignements, où vous trouverez les coordonnées de qq guides francophones : vous pouvez les contacter par mail et vous aurez une réponse rapide .
Comme mini - croisières, il y a l'excursion vers Denderah ( très beau temple) vers le nord, avec le Lotus ( c'était son nom...) , bâteau de l'Iberotel , si je me souviens bien . A réserver sur place ; il partait 2 (ou 3) fois par semaine : départ 7 h , retour vers 18 h 30.
Je ne crois pas que, niveau prix, il soit intéressant de suivre le conseil d'Arwena ( coucou !!!) : pas besoin de passer par un intermédiaire étranger, que vous allez payer au passage , pour organiser qq chose de simple en Egypte .
S'il vous faut d'autres renseignements ... Nous repartons le 14 ...
Bonne soirée !
Dans ce cas de figure, 1 guide - papier peut déjà vous aider à préciser vos choix .
Je pense que, sur le Forum Routard, qq un vous a donné un site fort riche en renseignements, où vous trouverez les coordonnées de qq guides francophones : vous pouvez les contacter par mail et vous aurez une réponse rapide .
Comme mini - croisières, il y a l'excursion vers Denderah ( très beau temple) vers le nord, avec le Lotus ( c'était son nom...) , bâteau de l'Iberotel , si je me souviens bien . A réserver sur place ; il partait 2 (ou 3) fois par semaine : départ 7 h , retour vers 18 h 30.
Je ne crois pas que, niveau prix, il soit intéressant de suivre le conseil d'Arwena ( coucou !!!) : pas besoin de passer par un intermédiaire étranger, que vous allez payer au passage , pour organiser qq chose de simple en Egypte .
S'il vous faut d'autres renseignements ... Nous repartons le 14 ...
Bonne soirée !
Brigitte
Coucou Brigitte42,
Tu sais ce n'est pas si cher que ça de passer par une agence locale. Après ça dépend de ce qu'on recherche. Mais tes conseils sont avisés. Et j'ai aussi appris quelque chose pour la croisière vers Denderah 😉
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Tu sais ce n'est pas si cher que ça de passer par une agence locale. Après ça dépend de ce qu'on recherche. Mais tes conseils sont avisés. Et j'ai aussi appris quelque chose pour la croisière vers Denderah 😉
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bonjour
nous avons effectué un sejour en famille à Louxor ej avons eu la chance d'avoir pour nous accompagner un guide egyptologue francophone .C'est autre chose avec un guide ....outre les informations culturelles , il t'apporte une approche différente des chose .ce n'est pas seulement un guide c'est un passionné je te donne ces coordonnées et même si tu ne fais pas affaire il te saura t'apporter les informations dont tu peux avoir besoin .
ahmed_dabia@yahoo.fr
Brigitte est mignonne mais est anti guide sur tous ces voyage .Je pense qu'elle a dû avoir une très mauvaise experience , bon voyage Maria
Brigitte est mignonne mais est anti guide sur tous ces voyage .Je pense qu'elle a dû avoir une très mauvaise experience , bon voyage Maria
Coucou Maria ,
Je ne suis pas seulement mignonne !!! ( +60 )
Il se fait que je suis fana de la lecture et curieuse ( TRES) de tout ; donc , même en voyage organisé ( 1 dans ma vie ) ou lors d'une visite avec un guide , j'ai l'habitude , impossible de changer cela , de tout préparer .
Effectivement , je n'ai pas eu que des mauvaises surprises mais qd même 2 de taille : je vous raconte celle qui m'est arrivée à Kalabcha : le guide du T O a 'oublié' de nous emmener à Beit el Ouali , au profit d'un magasin de parfums (refusé...). Alors que je savais qu'il fallait y aller , çà m'est 'revenu' sur le bâteau de retour ...
Chacun fait, fait , ... ce qu'il lui plait !
Bonne journée .
Effectivement , je n'ai pas eu que des mauvaises surprises mais qd même 2 de taille : je vous raconte celle qui m'est arrivée à Kalabcha : le guide du T O a 'oublié' de nous emmener à Beit el Ouali , au profit d'un magasin de parfums (refusé...). Alors que je savais qu'il fallait y aller , çà m'est 'revenu' sur le bâteau de retour ...
Chacun fait, fait , ... ce qu'il lui plait !
Bonne journée .
Brigitte
Bonjour Brigitte
l'âge n'empèche pas la " mignoneté!!!"
je suis moi même passionnée de lecture et surtout orientale _ on pourrait peut être échanger nos impressions!
d'ailleurs je vous conseille vivement le livre que je lit actuellement " le caire à corps perdu" écrit par le traducteur des livres de mafhouz , c'est quelqu'un que j'ai découvert à l'intitut du monde arabe à Paris . ceci etait juste une parenthèse .
je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous en ce qui concerne les T.O , mais en ce qui me concerne quand je parle de "guide" il s'agit de guide privé .j'utilise presque toujours leurs services car je pense qu'ils sont en général passionné et la passion est souvent contagieuse quand elle est vraie .
Maria
Coucou Brigitte42,
Tu sais ce n'est pas si cher que ça de passer par une agence locale. Après ça dépend de ce qu'on recherche. Mais tes conseils sont avisés. Et j'ai aussi appris quelque chose pour la croisière vers Denderah 😉
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Tiens je vais préciser mes pensées 🙂 Quand je disais de passer par une agence locale, c'était pour prendre les service d'un guide privée et pas forcément d'être en grand groupe. Ça évite de passer par les boutiques imposées ....
@++
Tu sais ce n'est pas si cher que ça de passer par une agence locale. Après ça dépend de ce qu'on recherche. Mais tes conseils sont avisés. Et j'ai aussi appris quelque chose pour la croisière vers Denderah 😉
@++
Tiens je vais préciser mes pensées 🙂 Quand je disais de passer par une agence locale, c'était pour prendre les service d'un guide privée et pas forcément d'être en grand groupe. Ça évite de passer par les boutiques imposées ....
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Merci pour le conseil : je vais essyer de le trouver pour le 14 .
Sinon , j'en avais rapporté qq uns à mon fils , mais ils étaient en anglais : trop difficile pour moi !
Bonne journée .
Bonne journée .
Brigitte
Bonsoir,
Pour rebondir sur ce qui est décrit ici. Je partage l'avis de Brigitte c'est désagréable de se retourver dans un magasin de bijoux alors qu'on avait prévu de voir un site. Mais avec un peu d'expérience, ces guides là on les sent arriver non 😏 Et donc pour vos visites individuelles, Sielleveut, il peut être utile de préciser au départ que vous ne souhaitez pas visiter des magasins. Soyez précis également pour les temps d'attente, on appréciera votre courtoisie.
Lors de notre dernière visite à Louxor nous avons fait confiance, avec bonheur, à la réception de l'hôtel pour un chauffeur. Dès le départ nous avons expliqué ce que nous voulions et aussi ce que nous ne voulions pas. C'est un rien plus cher parfois, car la personne fixe son prix sans l'espoir secret d'une commission de la part des boutiques.
Pour les guides privés, et pas spécialement en Egypte, je déteste ceux qui récitent un article de l'encyclopédie Universalis, mais il faut reconnaître que d'autres vous font vivre leur sujet de manière palpitante. Il y a un nombre considérable de chauffeurs renseignés ici et rarement les coordonnées d'agence où s'adresser pour louer les services de ce genre de professionels. Et pourtant, ce n'est parce qu'on organise son voyage tout seul qu'on ne peut pas se faire accompagner par un spécialiste en l'histoire.
Cordialement.
Véro
Pour rebondir sur ce qui est décrit ici. Je partage l'avis de Brigitte c'est désagréable de se retourver dans un magasin de bijoux alors qu'on avait prévu de voir un site. Mais avec un peu d'expérience, ces guides là on les sent arriver non 😏 Et donc pour vos visites individuelles, Sielleveut, il peut être utile de préciser au départ que vous ne souhaitez pas visiter des magasins. Soyez précis également pour les temps d'attente, on appréciera votre courtoisie.
Lors de notre dernière visite à Louxor nous avons fait confiance, avec bonheur, à la réception de l'hôtel pour un chauffeur. Dès le départ nous avons expliqué ce que nous voulions et aussi ce que nous ne voulions pas. C'est un rien plus cher parfois, car la personne fixe son prix sans l'espoir secret d'une commission de la part des boutiques.
Pour les guides privés, et pas spécialement en Egypte, je déteste ceux qui récitent un article de l'encyclopédie Universalis, mais il faut reconnaître que d'autres vous font vivre leur sujet de manière palpitante. Il y a un nombre considérable de chauffeurs renseignés ici et rarement les coordonnées d'agence où s'adresser pour louer les services de ce genre de professionels. Et pourtant, ce n'est parce qu'on organise son voyage tout seul qu'on ne peut pas se faire accompagner par un spécialiste en l'histoire.
Cordialement.
Véro
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.




