Marchandage et harcèlement en Indonésie
by Nessie2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
🙂Je n'ai tjs pas pris mon billet pour bali lombok ...eb indonesie
j'avoue que ce qui me stresse vraiment c d avoir pris conscience par des lectures de cette pression constante que l'on te fait que ce soit au niveau des achats, des transports ..
Est-ce vraiment comme en afrique du nord où l'on ne cesse de t'importuner ?😕f
Faut-il constamment marchander pour faire baisser les prix sur tout et tout particulièrement sur les transports ? 😠 afin de ne pas se faire gruger ?
pas sur la nourriture quand même ?
déjà que leur monnaie est super compliquée avec tous ces chiffres 🙁
ça me rebute, ça me fait peur et voyageant seule je sens que ça va être un combat de chaque instant. Ne connaissant pas le pays je ne peux que me faire une idée et psychoter un peu 😊🤪
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
bonjour Nessie
parfois les infos sur le forum sont comme les infos sur doctissimo car apres les avoir lues tu te sens beaucoup plus malade...
Nous avons ete pendant 4 semaines à bali en 2006 et n'avons jamais souffert de harcelement et le marchandage se pratique comme partout mais dans la bonne humeur
Pour se deplacer les bus de la Perama t'emmeneront partout dans l'ile pour un prix tres modique .
Par contre fais attention si tu change de l'argent chez des commerçant car il faut recompter 10fois ses billets .
ce saurait dommage de se priver de visiter une si belle ile , car les Balinais sont des gens adorables
Bon voyage
Ps nous pensons aller en Malaisie en 2009 et je ne manqueraipas de te demander des infos .
ALAIN
N'es pa béù qu'es béù, es béù so qu'agrada!
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
Bonjour,
Bah c'est pas grave, il faut le prendre comme un jeux, c'est vrai que dans certains pays ce "harcelement" est plus prononcé mais si vous aller dans un resort, vous ne devriez pas rencontrer ce problème. Le sourire et la patience ouvre bien des portes, refuser avec le sourire (qui vous sied bien sur la photo 😉).
Je ne connais aucun voyageur qui ne s'est pas fait "arnaqué" durant son voyage. Pas besoin de voyager pour être dans cette situation, en France sur la côte c'est au quotidien.
Ne partez pas avec cette esprit, rien n'ai rebutant dans la découverte, il suffit d'être prudent c'est tout.
De plus il est difficile de comparer le tourisme en Afrique et en Indonésie (l'Asie en général) comme il est difficile de comparer le tourisme en France et en Italie par exemple. J'ai, au cours de mes voyages, rencontré beaucoup de femmes voyageant seules, certains pays s'y pretent plus que d'autres à mon avis.
Lisez les posts de ce forum, certains sont de bon conseils, j'ai pour habitude de dire à mes amis que partir avec ces soucis et ses craintes ne sert à rien, maintenant il n'y a pas de recette pour voyager, chacun le fait à sa façon et chacun en retire des sentiments différents mais tous reviennent avec l'esprit reposé.
De plus il est difficile de comparer le tourisme en Afrique et en Indonésie (l'Asie en général) comme il est difficile de comparer le tourisme en France et en Italie par exemple. J'ai, au cours de mes voyages, rencontré beaucoup de femmes voyageant seules, certains pays s'y pretent plus que d'autres à mon avis.
Lisez les posts de ce forum, certains sont de bon conseils, j'ai pour habitude de dire à mes amis que partir avec ces soucis et ses craintes ne sert à rien, maintenant il n'y a pas de recette pour voyager, chacun le fait à sa façon et chacun en retire des sentiments différents mais tous reviennent avec l'esprit reposé.
Sig(ne) (de la) nature
Pas de souci de harcelement en général si ce n'est a Bali dans la zone de Kuta et Legian que l'on peut éviter pour d'autres raisons. Ailleurs les balinais sont très sympas 😉 Par contre il en effet souvent conseillé de négocier pour les transports, la bouffe et l'achat de vétements et souvenirs locaux (voir le post dédié sur le sujet ICI).
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
oui c sur qu 'il ne faut pas prendre pour argent comptant tout ce que les autres disent mais certaines situations vont etre prises de façons différentes par les gens aussi, ily a les calmes et les stressés et speed comme moi qui ne supportent pas grand chose j'en suis consciente😛🤪 mais que ça met dans des etats pas possible
je ne vais pas dans un all inclusive mais je prends juste un billet d'avion et inchala ensuite.
l'argent moi je retire dans les dab
et perama oui j'ai vu ils ont meme de supers excursions que je compte bien prendre ainsi que leur bateau peut etre si je ne prends pas l'avion pour lombok cher mais rapide et sans galère
la malaisie c le top du top J ADORE par dessus tout
as tu été voir mon blog tu y trouveras tout plein d'indications, et mon carnet de route😉
vanessa
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
merci pour tous vos renseignements mais ce qui est vrai et qui me fait peur c que j'ai pu glaner quelques infos sur les vrais prix et cie (va falloir que je note tout ça sur un petit carnet😉) mais en régle générale comment veux tu savoir si le prix que l'on t'annonce pour tel ou tel trajet tel ou tel trajet en taxi est annoncé 10 fois le prix 5 fois le prix ?? afin de pouvoir annoncer le tiens qui est le vrai prix et comment savoir quel est le vrai prix des choses c ça qui m'inquiéte, car quand tu sais la vrai valeur tu insiste mais si es dans le flou total tu fais koi
pas la bouffe quand meme, tu achetes un sandwich local c le meme prix pour tout le monde ????🤪😇 ou une boisson
pfff ben moi sur ce coup là je ne suis pas zen 😮j'y arrive pas
je sais que c con mais c une foutue appréhension que j'ai là
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
je prends un peu de cash et qq travellers que j'ai en dollars
mais ma banque c carrefour et ils ne me chargent que 1.5 % à chaque retrait et basta
et pourquoi me dis tu que je vais etre limitée dans mes retraits vu le coup de la vie et le fait que je ne dépense pas grand chose 🤪
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
ca m'est arrive justement a Bali...... entre payer ta chambre, ta bouffe et deux trois babiolles........ ma banque ne m'autorise que tant (je ne souviens plus combien) par semaine..... alors tu peux vite etre dans la merde...... Si tu fais des paiements avec la carte visa, il te chargent entre 7 et 10 % !!!
je vis en thailande, et je vois la meme chose pour certains touristes..... ils se font bananer car ils ne savent pas qu'ils sont limites par semaine.......
bonjour🙂
j'ai tjs utilisé ma carte que ce soit au mexique brésil australie et là en mars en malaisie je retirais tout le temps et ma banque je suis à carrefour et je me suis bien renseignée ne charge que 1.5% sur chaque retrait
j'ai la mastercard premium (la gold) et tu n'as pas de problème de limite à moins d'etre millionnaire mais si tu retires 150 par exemple m eme avec une simple carte bleue tu le peux
je me loge pour 10 euros la nuit je prends les transports en commun et je mange pour trois francs six sous je ne devrais pas claquer le budget 🤪😉
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
Mais je t'ai vu sur le site de Loic, Lolodesiles, non? Super genial son site.
Bref, moi je voyage seule en Indonesie et j'ADORE. Bon, c'est vrai que parfois, si on est le seul touriste comme ca m'est arrivee a Lombok, on te poursuit pour te vendre des bricoles. Ca peut etre agacant mais je n'ai jamais resenti d'agressivite. Le tout et de prendre son temps, de toujours garder sa bonne humeur et d'essayer de tourner ca en jeu, en bavardage, en plaisanterie.
Pour avoir une idee des prix, ca prend un certain temps. Au debut, on se fait "avoir". Normal! On s'y prend comme des pieds. Mais meme si on paie au debut 4 ou 5 fois le prix, ca ne sera jamais plus cher qu'a la maison, sinon, be, t'achete pas, non? Et puis, peu a peu, on se fait une idee du prix. Une idee car dans la rue (a part la bouffe, rassure toi), les prix fixes n'existent pour personne. Meme les Indonesiens marchandent. Ca fait partie de la communication.
Par exemple, on m'avait dit qu'a Ubud, dans la rue Hanoman, il y avait plein de chambres a 50000rp. En fixant d'entree ma limite, sans chercher a faire baisser les prix, j'ai pris mon temps pour trouver une chambre dans un beau jardin. Du coup, ceux qui me voyaient repasser baissaient leur prix sans que je ne demande rien. Je me suis retrouvee dans de tres belles chambres. Bon, ca marche surtout hors saison. Sinon, on se refere a un guide recent.
Pour manger, les prix sont fixes. Et si jamais tu paies quelques roupies de plus, c'est negligeable. Moi, je mange toujours dans les petits restau ou vont les locaux ou dans la rue. C'est bien meilleur a mon avis que dans les restau pour touristes et bien moins cher. Et je n'ai jamais ete malade. Assure toi juste que les gens ne se servent pas avec les mains.
Jeudi prochain, le 30, je pars pour Sumatra. C'est le bonheur! Je n'y suis encore jamais allee. Je suis surtout allee a Jogja. Apparemment a Sumatra, le prix des hotels changent beaucoup d'une ville a l'autre. Comme il disent dans les guides, ce que tu depense d'un cote, tu le "recuperes" ailleurs.
A Bali, l'agence Perama, c'est super pratique, tres bien organise et vraiment pas cher (et je voyage a PETIT budget)
Lombok, en bateau, c'est un peu long, mais c'est l'occasion de rencontrer des gens et de respirer l'air de la mer. Par contre, il vaut mieux partir tot, cat apres 3h, la mer commence a s'agiter.
Si tu aimes te balader a moto avec chauffeur, je te conseille un guide adorable a Ubud. J'ai fait de grandes balades avec lui. A l'une, il t'amene a la campagne et vous vous promenez 3 heures dans les rizieres, une vraie promenade. Puis, il t'amene dejeuner chez lui. Sa femme fait la cuisisne. Il y a 2 ans, J'ai paye 100 000rp je pense. Ca peut avoir un peu augmente. Mais la, il ne faut pas marchande, car avec un tel service, je n'ai jamais vu aussi bien.
nom du guide: Dolit
no. tel.: 081-55-79-14-33 (j'espere que ca n'a pas change)
Voila, j'espere que ca t'a donne envie d'aller en Indonesie.
Petit conseil: pas de travellers cheks, pas toujours echangeable.
Autre chose: pour un premier voyage, c'est bien de rester sur une ile. Bali est tres bien amenage. Pour Lombok, c'est moins evident de se promener si on ne conduit pas de moto. Aussi, il y a beaucoup moins d'agences. Senggigi peut paraitre triste et un peu en desuetude. Beaucoup de magasins fermes. Je n'ai pas pris le temps d'explorer et je suis repartie un peu frustree. J'avais opte pour Gili Air (on ne peut pas tout faire). J'ai bien aime. Mais autant partir avec de bons livres, car le soir, seule dans sa chambre, c'est un peu triste. Il ne se passe rien sur l'ile apres la tombee du jour.
Bon voyage
"The world is my oyster"
à lire :
Bali, l'ascenseur pour le paradis
Bali, l'ascenseur pour le paradis
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
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Oui tu me remotives un peu c sur, du vécu et de la part d'une voyageuse qui voyage seule, ça aide, car c certain les couples n 'ont pas la même vision des choses et la même difficulté non plus
pourrais tu me donner les adresses des endroits où tu es restée
moi je compte louer un scooter j'en conduit un ici, mais apporter mon casque
ceci dit tu penses bien que je vais noter les coordonnées de ton guide en moto, c juste que j'ai peur en tant que passagère même ici en france je ne suis pas rassurée
pour lombok moi je vais filer sur la grande ile et prendre quitte à payer un bateau rapid avec gillicat ou autre je pense que ça vaut le coup
Et toi qu'en penses tu des internet cafés là bas facile ou difficile, car j'y suis souvent pendue
je voulais m'acheter un netbook ça te permet d utiliser les points wi fi et d'avoir ton autonomie et de passer le temps le soir justement à bosser des diaporamas et cie entre autre
en tous cas je pense que je vais revenir vers toi
et bonnes vacances à sumatra c sur que ça doit etre le top là bas
moi j'aimerais bcp aller à bornéo coté m alaisie
en fevrier j'etais en malaisie et j'ai ADORE
merci
biz
vanessa
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
Avec un peu de bahasa, c'est plus facile en general;
Apprends les phrases qui te semblent importantes pour ne pas te faire importuner et voila;
Tidak mau - je ne veux pas Sudah - deja, ca marche pour deja fait ou deja vu...
La liste est un peu plus longue avec un petit guide c'est super facile.
Pour les prix, demande a des gens qiui n'ont aucun interet dans le business. Genre demande le prix des fringues a ton hotel, pareil pour les transports enfin sauf s'ils ont des taxis. Aux magasins de fringues ou tu viens de prendre un tee shirt demande le prix des transports etc etc Pareil l'indonesien ca marche bien la. Mais si on demande combien faut pouvoir comprendre les nombres :))))
Tidak mau - je ne veux pas Sudah - deja, ca marche pour deja fait ou deja vu...
La liste est un peu plus longue avec un petit guide c'est super facile.
Pour les prix, demande a des gens qiui n'ont aucun interet dans le business. Genre demande le prix des fringues a ton hotel, pareil pour les transports enfin sauf s'ils ont des taxis. Aux magasins de fringues ou tu viens de prendre un tee shirt demande le prix des transports etc etc Pareil l'indonesien ca marche bien la. Mais si on demande combien faut pouvoir comprendre les nombres :))))
Sý tu veux te changer les idées, va faire un Tour...
A vrai dire, je ne note pas le nom des guest houses ou je vais. Je choisis une rue par rapport a son emplacement ou selon les references des guides. J'ai une petite valise a roulette super legere mais trop lourde pour mes epaules... donc, ca me permet de flaner dans la rue a la recherche de mon petit paradis. Et quand je retourne, disons a Ubud, je vais dans un autre guest house. Sauf a Kuta, la, je retourne toujours au Cempaka, c'est dans Poppies Lane II.
Pour ce qui est de la moto, j'ai trop peur d'avoir un accident ou une panne toute seule si je loue une petite moto et elles ne sont pas toujours top. Avec un chauffeur, si on a un probleme, je me fie a lui. Et c'est plus drole a 2, avec un (ou une) local(e) qui connait bien le pays et qui te fait decouvrir le pays.
Dorit est tres tres cool sur sa petite moto. Il roule lentement pour que l'on puisse profiter du paysage et il en profite autant que toi. Il est vraiment adorable.
Internet cafe, il y en a plein a Bali. Mais j'y vais juste pour envoyer un ou deux mails a la famille.
Aussi, tu peux ”echanger" des livres un peu partout, surtout a Bali ou il y a beaucoup de passage de touristes. Ca evite de trop se charger mais le choix est quand-meme limite pour le francais.
J'ai vu que tu etais une grande voyageuse. Tu dois avoir acquis des habitudes, des petits trucs du voyageur qui sont valables a travers le monde, non? Je suis etonnee que tu angoisses pour le marchandages et les prix. Il n'y en a pas en Malaisie ou au Mexique? Le Mexique me tente depuis longtemps, mais la, je flippe un peu pour la securite, surtout si je voyage seule.
Bonne continuation dans ta prepa de voyage.
cipika cipiki, c'est biz en Indo
Cipika
"The world is my oyster"
Bonjour,
intéressante ton information sur les moto- taxis; en as tu trouvé ailleurs qu' à Ubud ? sont ils facilement repérables ? style marques distinctives sur la moto ou le sur un vètement par ex ? ou bien les as tu trouvé en demandant à droite et à gauche ?
merci pour tes infos.
... j'avoue que ce qui me stresse vraiment c d avoir pris conscience par des lectures de cette pression constante que l'on te fait que ce soit au niveau des achats...
Inutile te stresser pour ça c'est culturel en Asie , +/- selon les pays c'est vrai, alors un "non merci" ou un "j'ai déjà" pour les vendeurs a la sauvette reglera rapidement le pbl !
PS evite de comparer a la Malaisie comme tu sembles le faire souvent sinon tu risques de passer un mauvais sejour !
Inutile te stresser pour ça c'est culturel en Asie , +/- selon les pays c'est vrai, alors un "non merci" ou un "j'ai déjà" pour les vendeurs a la sauvette reglera rapidement le pbl !
PS evite de comparer a la Malaisie comme tu sembles le faire souvent sinon tu risques de passer un mauvais sejour !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Dolit, je l'ai trouve sur un forum de voyage. Je ne sais plus lequel, mais tu le trouveras si tu cherches sur yahoo.
Apres, c'est au feeling. Par exemple, si le personnel de ton guest house te plait, tu leur demandes si quelqu'un peut t'amener quelque part. Bon, tu prends le risque qu'ils s'adressent a un copain que tu n'as pas vu mais tu auras deja negocie le prix agreablement. Voila, apres, c'est au petit bonheur la chance. Precise bien que tu veux un casque! Demande si le prix comprend l'essence. Moi, je paie toujours a manger et/ou a boire sur un bord de route. Aussi, precise que tu veux "pulang pulang" (doucement) pour apprecier le paysage. L'objectif n'etant pas tant la destination que la balade meme.
Les moto-taxis, il y en a partout dans la rue, a chaque pas que tu fais, on t'interpelle "motor?", mais je prefere avoir eu un premier contact avant de choisir mon conducteur au guest house, ou bien quelqu'un qui ait ete grandement recommande comme Dorit sur le forum. Je leur mets quand-meme un peu ma vie entre les mains.
Mais on dirait que tu as deja ton chauffeur qui t'attend en faisant "tidur" (dodo) sur sa "motor"... (photo)
"The world is my oyster"
😏😏😏, oui c' est vrai, c' était à Pnomh Penh , il faut saluer l' exploit !!! moi j' aurais pas réussi à m' endormir là dessus.
je me suis bien gardée de le réveiller alors qu' autour ses copains moto taxi se marraient.
j' ai commencé à me faire un répertoire de vocabulaire. merci de l' avoir enrichi utilement. Dorit est il francophone ou anglophone ? ou ni l' un ni l' autre 🤪🤪?
j' avais recherchè avec Dorit, comme dit dans ton 1° message et rien. j' ai bien trouvé avec Dolit.
j' ai commencé à me faire un répertoire de vocabulaire. merci de l' avoir enrichi utilement. Dorit est il francophone ou anglophone ? ou ni l' un ni l' autre 🤪🤪?
j' avais recherchè avec Dorit, comme dit dans ton 1° message et rien. j' ai bien trouvé avec Dolit.
Petit rectificatif: "lentement" (pour le driver), c'est pas "pulang pulang", mais "pelan pelan"... "pulang", c'est "rentrer"... ce serait dommage de faire demi tour au plus beau moment de la journee a cause de moi.... Plus j'apprends l'indonesien, plus j'ai tendance a froisser les mots.
Des comme lui (photo), t'en verras plein sortis de la meme ecole d'equilibrisme la-bas aussi.
Dorit parle un peu anglais, juste ce qui faut pour l'essentiel et pour tenter et apprendre quelques mots d'indonesien.
Le jour de la promenade dans les rizieres, j'ai appris un mot qui sera a jamais lie a cette journee: "licin", "ca glisse"; c'est boueux dans les rizieres.
Bonne route
Selamat Jalan
Tu pars quand et ou?
"The world is my oyster"
je passe sur ta mp
merci ragamufin je vais vite lire ce carnet de voyage😉🙂
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
Hello,
Et bien le mexique il faut y aller c super je suis arrivée à mexico et j'ai rejoint le yucatan en passant par oaxaca tuxla gutierez san cristobal de las casas palenque mazunte au bord du pacifique tulum et isla mujeres en 5 semaines, bus de nuits super tu gagnes du temps et le prix des logements, tu réserve ta place de bus directement sur internet le top j'ai fait le brésil deux mois aussi seule pour en revenir au marchandage et "à la peur de se faire avoir" et bien non au mexique au brésil en australie en malaisie aucun problème du tout, pas besoin de marchander, en malaisie rien que du bonheur tu te sens comme à la maison personne ne vient vers toi pour essayer de te vendre un truc (mis à part les massages le soir à KL dans la rue principale du triangle d'or où tu te fais vaguement accosté, tu n'as jamais peur de te faire avoir dumoins moi, les prix sont affichés partout ou presque si un local paye ce kil a dans son assiette au buffet et bien tu payes la même chose enfin je trouve cela trés rassurant, agréable. Moi tout en voyageant routarde j'ai besoin de "bus corrects" avec des horaires plus ou moins respectés enfin j'ai besoin de pas mal d'occidentalisme pour me sentir bien, si je voyageais en semi organisé et bien à partir du moment où t te reposes sur le guide ou autre tu te sens plus relax sinon .. c pour cela que j'ai cette appréhension, moi les pays "pauvres" c pas mon truc mais bon bali avec tous ces touristes ça ira et moi je ne cherche pas à aller me paumer hors des sentiers battus je te parlais de scooter parce que à Langkawi ils en louent partout de rutilants et qu e jai adoré me balader sur l'ile cipika cipiki c excellent ça 😄 bon si tu veux des infos sur mexique et tutti quanti tu vis au japon ou en france ?
Et bien le mexique il faut y aller c super je suis arrivée à mexico et j'ai rejoint le yucatan en passant par oaxaca tuxla gutierez san cristobal de las casas palenque mazunte au bord du pacifique tulum et isla mujeres en 5 semaines, bus de nuits super tu gagnes du temps et le prix des logements, tu réserve ta place de bus directement sur internet le top j'ai fait le brésil deux mois aussi seule pour en revenir au marchandage et "à la peur de se faire avoir" et bien non au mexique au brésil en australie en malaisie aucun problème du tout, pas besoin de marchander, en malaisie rien que du bonheur tu te sens comme à la maison personne ne vient vers toi pour essayer de te vendre un truc (mis à part les massages le soir à KL dans la rue principale du triangle d'or où tu te fais vaguement accosté, tu n'as jamais peur de te faire avoir dumoins moi, les prix sont affichés partout ou presque si un local paye ce kil a dans son assiette au buffet et bien tu payes la même chose enfin je trouve cela trés rassurant, agréable. Moi tout en voyageant routarde j'ai besoin de "bus corrects" avec des horaires plus ou moins respectés enfin j'ai besoin de pas mal d'occidentalisme pour me sentir bien, si je voyageais en semi organisé et bien à partir du moment où t te reposes sur le guide ou autre tu te sens plus relax sinon .. c pour cela que j'ai cette appréhension, moi les pays "pauvres" c pas mon truc mais bon bali avec tous ces touristes ça ira et moi je ne cherche pas à aller me paumer hors des sentiers battus je te parlais de scooter parce que à Langkawi ils en louent partout de rutilants et qu e jai adoré me balader sur l'ile cipika cipiki c excellent ça 😄 bon si tu veux des infos sur mexique et tutti quanti tu vis au japon ou en france ?
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
🙂et oui je compare dumoins dans mes lectures car c plus ou moins ce que je voudrais retrouver comme "ambiance" enfin vis de tous les jours, sans prise de tête outre mesure
je commence à regretter un peu de ne pas avoir pris un semi organisé comme Adeo qui fait en 26 jours les petites iles de la sonde 😇🤪
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
🤪 je rêve d'aller au japon mais la vie est super chère là bas mais miam miam la bouffe 😄et our moi la bouffe c primordial
bonne nuit alors avec le decallage
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
🙂et oui je compare dumoins dans mes lectures car c plus ou moins ce que je voudrais retrouver comme "ambiance" enfin vis de tous les jours, sans prise de tête outre mesure
je commence à regretter un peu de ne pas avoir pris un semi organisé comme Adeo qui fait en 26 jours les petites iles de la sonde 😇🤪
En Indo, Bali +++ il est tres facile de voyager en individuel, je n'ai pas trouvé beaucoup de difference avec la Malaise, alors fonce acheter ton billet et ne pense plus au marchandage (le non merci ou j'ai dejà... ça marche très bien) ou internet 😏
PS ... et si tu as vu un circuit semi organise qui te plait et bien tu te le refais toi même, no problème ! lorsque je vais quelque part je regarde ce qui existe aussi de "tout fait" et m'en inspire si besoin.
En Indo, Bali +++ il est tres facile de voyager en individuel, je n'ai pas trouvé beaucoup de difference avec la Malaise, alors fonce acheter ton billet et ne pense plus au marchandage (le non merci ou j'ai dejà... ça marche très bien) ou internet 😏
PS ... et si tu as vu un circuit semi organise qui te plait et bien tu te le refais toi même, no problème ! lorsque je vais quelque part je regarde ce qui existe aussi de "tout fait" et m'en inspire si besoin.
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
et oui 😉tu as raison
En tous cas merci à tous pour vos réponses🙂 ça fait plaisir de sentir de l'aide et des gens qui font tout pour te motiver
moi je vous envoie où que vous soyiez du beau soleil de la côte d'azur car nombreux n'ont pas cette chance où ils habitent🙂😏
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
bonjour nessie 2
pas de stresse tu parts dans un pays superbe
mois on m'avais dit (fait attention avec l'argent )c'est vrais que certains vont te rendre de la monaie ou le compte ne correspond pas mais avec le sourire et en discutant avec eux c'est pas des sommes énormes , tu ne va pas te ruiner c'est souvent quelques centimes par rapport a notre monaie (prend une calculette ou tu fais le change )donc pas très grave souvent il te rende l'argent comme si il n'avait pas fais expres le niveau de vie n'est pas le notre donc il tente leur chance.
Le change dans les hotels est correcte et le change correspond à peu près au change officiel avec les frais de change, dans la rue c'est different et il faut bien verrifier car il marque un tarif et quand il te donne l'argent c'est pas le meme change ? donc rester vigilent
Pour le reste il ne sont pas envahissant comme en afrique du nord mais il faut s'avoir que le touriste c'est leur commerce donc il accroche un peu le client c'est normale c'est leur gagne pain .
meme seul en voyage on fait des rencontres .
Profite de se voyage c'est un pays superbe paysages, les gens, leurs fêtes , les cérémonies, les rencontres, enfin mois j'ai superbement aimer et j'espere bien retourner la bas pour d'autres régions à visiter
tient nous au courrant de se voyage . a bientot
Bonjour,
Merci à toi aussi pour ces conseils 😉
j'ai ouvert un blog pour ce voyage afin d'y relater le plus souvent possible mes anecdotes. J'espère pouvoir comme partout en général mettre à jour mon blog si la vitesse me permet d'ouvrir ma page 😠🤪
http://escapadeentrebalietlombok.blogs-de-voyage.fr/
Juste un petit conseil si je peux me permettre😮avant d'envoyer un texte relis toi afin d'éviter de faire autant de fautes 😛
bonne journée
vanessa
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
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International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
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Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
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Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!



