Je suis en train de préparer une virée de 7 jours en 4x4 de location à partir de Marrakech. Où puis je trouver à la location des plaques de désensablage à Marrakech. Les étapes seraient Marrakech-Taroudan-Tafraoute-Amtoudi (Id Aïssa)-Tissint (lac Iriki)-Erg Chegaga -Adzt-Marrakech.Nous n'aurons qu'un seul véhicule, et je voudrai aussi savoir si sur cette zone les portables passent partout. Merci de vos conseils éclairés et avisés.
Pour la traversée de Chegaga, je conseillerai davantage un bon compresseur plutôt que des plaques
Dans les dunes de l'erg , les plaques seront d'une piètre utilité , seul un "bon" dégonflage à la pression adéquate est efficace (et donc nécessité d'un regonflage en sortie d'erg )
Sur le reste du parcours envisagé, les plaques seront inutiles
Méfiance aussi avec l'état dans lequel se trouvent souvent les 4x4 de loc : vérifies bien le bon passage du 4x2 / 4x4 , des vitesses courtes et enclenchement des MRL si présents
Y en a qui ont eu des surprises ....
J'ai déjà fait en moto la piste entre Taroudant et Amtoudi, mais après, c'est pour moi l'inconnu. (en moto nous étions partis vers Fort bou jerif et plage blanche). Je pensais dormir vers Tissint et rejoindre le bivouac St Exupéry par la piste qui traverse le lac Iriki. Mais peut être y a-t-il un meilleur plan. Benoît
Merci de ton conseil, mais j'avais l'impression que quand on était ensablé, il fallait des plaques. Je suis débutant en matière de sable et de Sahara en 4x4. Pour la loc, je pensais passer par Najm car à Marrakech.
Bonjour
* * j'avais l'impression que quand on était ensablé, il fallait des plaques. ***
Il faut surtout éviter de s'ensabler , en dégonflant (et en regonflant sur le dur !! d'ou l'intérét du gonfleur), et surtout en apprenant à conduire sur le sable ! ce qui n'est pas évident.
Les plaques , quand on en arrive à en avoir besoin, on ne s'en sort plus, et des plaques sans pelles, sans gros bras et sans équipier efficace, ça peut devenir galère !
Perso , connaissant l'état du parc des 4x4 de loc , même chez des loueurs réputés, je ne m'approcherais de Chigaga qu'avec une extrème prudence, ou en groupe.
Ton itinéraire nécessite plus une 2eme roue de secours que des plaques (et pelle).
Effectivement, le mieux est de ne pas se "bourber", et donc de ne pas avoir à se servir de plaques 😉
Si tu n'as pas un chouia d'expérience de conduite sur sable et si tu ne connais pas la piste, tu vas galérer grave..............
Même si ce n'est pas le "Grand Erg Occidental, il y a matière à se prendre la tête pour un réel novice !
A ta place, j'y réfléchirai à 2 fois 😛
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Je fais pas mal de 4x4 ici en france, par l'intemédiaire d'un club rando 4x4, et donc beaucoup de boue, mais si en moto les 2 conduites sont approchantes, en 4x4...
Je vais laisser de côté la première partie de ton voyage , ainsi que la fin , car ne présentant pas de difficulté particulière
Par contre , je vais te décrire sommairement la partie entre Tissint et Mhamid
De Tissint , tu vas sûrement descendre par la piste partant du goudron Tissint/ FoumZguid , sur la droite environ 2 km après la sortie de Tissint , pour rejoindre la piste que j'appellerai "piste interdite" longeant le Draa/frontière Algérie . Environ 50 km cap 180° à partir du goudron pour rejoindre cette piste , sans difficulté
Une fois la jonction avec cette "piste interdite", après , comme repère un peu avant la jonction, une petite éolienne servant à remonter de l'eau dans une citerne pour les troupeaux locaux , au bas d'un petit djebel , tu prends la piste à 90° sur ta gauche , direction Iriki
Sur cette portion direction Iriki , la seule petite difficulté est la traversée d'un oued super joli mais très rocheux, dans lequel il faut faite attention au bas de caisse et au carter du 4x4
Pour traverser Iriki, pas de problème par temps sec , seulement faire attention à la vitesse qu'on peut atteindre par endroit , et lever le pied
Tu vas voir ensuite sur ta droite le début de l'erg Chegaga
Là , 3 possibilités pour rejoindre Mhamid :
- l'erg Chegaga , à travers les dunes : je te le déconseille si tu n'as pas un semblant d'expérience de la conduite dans un erg , surtout à un seul véhicule, et sans possibilité de dégonfler (ordre d'idée des pressions : AV 1,2 bar , AR 1,8 , à moduler selon véhicule et chargement ) d'où la nécessité de regonfler dès la sortie du mou sous peine de crevaison.
Les plaques ne sont vraiment utiles que pour se sortir d'un plantage ponctuel sur quelques mètres , mais en aucun cas pour traverser un erg sur plusieurs dizaines de kms
- une piste très sablonneuse et fech fech longe l'erg sur sa partie Nord , on s'y plante facilement si on l'aborde mal , dégonflage + que recommandé , donc piste pas conseillé non plus dans ton cas
- solution la moins agréable ( car caillouteuse bien souvent) mais la plus facile et sûre, emprunter la piste bien marquée qui vient de Foum Zguid , longeant les contreforts Sud du djebel Bani , par la Zaouia sidi abd en nebi, et rejoindre Mhamid (ou Tagounite plus au nord , sur le goudron Mhamid/zagora. elle te permettra de passer par le "lac" Iriki
Si tu veux plus de renseignements , passes en messages privés
Bonjour a toi.
J'ai emprunté déjà de nombreuses fois la piste qui relie M'hamid à Foum Zguid.
Je n'ai jamais utilisé des plaques de désensablage, ni même dégonflé les pneus.
Depuis longtemps je me rends au Maroc et pas mal bourlingué dans ce beau pays, et à aucun moment j'ai sorti mes plaques.
Une seule fois j'ai dégonflé mes boudins pour traverser l'Erg Chebbi, mais toujours pas eû besoin des plaques, donc.....
Pour moi le risque réside plutot dans le véhicule de location, état général, pneus, etc... si tu pars seul.
Seul risque, le lac Iriki, après de la pluie, une couche de boue sèche peut te faire penser que c'est portant, et dessous tu trouves de la belle boue bien collante.
Si tu t'y plante, même avec des plaques tu n'auras pas fini de t'amuser !...
Renseignes-toi soit à M'hamid ou à Foum Zguid s'il y a plut dernièrement, et surtout ouvres les yeux arrivé une fois sur le lac pour voir les autres 4x4 par ou ils passent, car le lac est très fréquenté soit par des agences ou par des particuliers.
Bonne piste et amuses-toi bien.
Elchibani
Merci à toi, pour ces renseignements. Je vais suivre ton conseil, ainsi que celui des autres. Pas de plaques, par contre j'ai investi dans un petit comprésseur, dont je souhaite ne pas me servir. Coté location de 4x4, aprés de bons renseignements, je vais voir NAJM CAR à Marrakech en louant soit un pajero soit un patrol.
Je suis également à la recherche d'un logement pour une nuit et pas cher vers Tata ou Tissint. J'ai bien une adresse "chez Lahcen", mais je souhaite quelque chose de plus rustique, et surtout moins cher. Peut être as tu un tuyau...
Bien à toi
* ** quelque chose de plus rustique, et surtout moins cher ***
dans la rue principale de Tata, et vers le terminus bus, et vers la statue de la gazelle, il existe plusieurs petits hotels avec ces critères, du genre VRP et chauffeurs de groupes, en général le rapport qualité prix de ces établissements est assez correct.
je n'en ai encore visité aucun, mais j'y songe sérieusement pour mon prochain trip, l'offre "touristique" étant vraiment lamentable et hors de prix.
Plusieurs petits restos sympas à coté et cafés avec grilleur de beignets pout le ptidej.
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
