Matériel pour débutants pour trajets de plusieurs semaines?
by Charentais17
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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depiuis que je recois des cyclotouristes en couch surfing a la maison
l idee est venue que cette fois , cest a moi de partir sur les chemins por decouvrir le monde
donc faut deja avoir un bon point de depart
le budget!!! ahhh l argent.....
bref
DONC que faut il comme velo qui sy prete? je suis une personne au physique de 87kgs donc pas un poids plume
et combien de porte bagages faut il? ect ect
jaimerais debuter sur le chemin des douaniers en bretagne
merci a tous pour vos^prochains renseignements
le chemin des douaniers ... si c'est le GR 34, il est sur une grande partie au moins, interdit aux vélos ... et, en plus, même en VTT, souvent quasi-impraticable - surtout chargé !!! .... mais, on peut se tailler sans problèmes, sur les petites routes au plus près de la côte, un itinéraire breton tout à fait superbe : les côtes nord il y a qqs années - cf mon "blog"
http://lethieu39.jimdo.com/cyclo-une-virée-en-bretagne/
Pour l'équipement, à budget réduit, il y a les "bourses aux vélos" ou en occasion ... perso, j'ai opté pour un VTT ancien - fourche "fixe" en 26 " et freins V-brake (sur jante) .... le porte bagage (AR) -alu ... modèles à partir de 20/25 € suffisants pour une charge de 20/25 kg (largement suffisant pour une virée "hors déserts" de qqs semaines ...)- voir sur "le cyclo" .... Le mien est fixé sur colliers (pareils, kit de montage fiables sur le même site ...)
A partir d'un modèle simple (que l'on peut donc bricoler et réparer sans grandes connaissances) on obtient sans pb une monture tout à fait adaptée à de grandes virées cyclos...
Pareil pour la bagagerie : je n'ai pas opté pour le top en matière de sacoches : les miennes sont assez légères, non étanches (affaires rangées dans des sacs plastiques et je mets une protection pluie sur les sacoches par mauvais temps ...)
En bref, on peut encore voyager avec un vélo de moins de 2000 € et des accessoires "bagages" de moins de 200 € - Bonne recherche
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Bonjour,
Effectivement le chemin des douaniers est un superbe itinéraire...pédestre, d'une part par sa "difficulté" à vélo qui plus est chargé mais aussi par rapport à l'interdiction que tu trouveras sur beaucoup d'entres eux...
Cependant la Bretagne est une zone très accueillante pour les cycles voyageurs notamment débutant : en effet de nombreuses voies vertes & autres véloroutes sont en place favorisant la pratique, tu trouveras dans ces quelques liens des idées de départs :
http://www.randobreizh.com/a-velo_veloroutes-voies-vertes-bretagne_index.php
http://www.tregorbicyclette.fr/itineraires/veloroute.php
http://www.tourdemanche.com
http://www.af3v.org/-Canal-de-Nantes-a-Brest-.html
Et puis tant & tant de petites routes sympas, pas de périphérique ! donc au niveau circulation çà le fait bien !
http://www.tregorbicyclette.fr/itineraires/veloroute.php
http://www.tourdemanche.com
http://www.af3v.org/-Canal-de-Nantes-a-Brest-.html
Et puis tant & tant de petites routes sympas, pas de périphérique ! donc au niveau circulation çà le fait bien !
😉😉
merci pour les renseignements et les liens du blog !
ceci me renseignes davantage
donc on peut prendre un vtt mais des pneus alors adequates
Salut Greg,
Tout est possible, d'un budget faible en partant "à l'aventure" au top matériel pour partir "en sécurité" (toute relative).
Un vieux VTT acier rigide peut faire l'affaire. Vérifie bien l'état des roues (gentes, rayonnage). Les pneus lisses te permettront d'aller plus vite plus loin. Des pneus de bonne qualité t'éviteront de crever (généralement loin de la civilisation, le soir et sous la pluie🏴☠️). Prend des patins de freins de rechange. Ne lésine pas trop sur les portes bagages car ils peuvent casser, c'est embêtant... Des sacoches étanches sont pratiques, sinon... des sacs poubelle feront l'affaire, à l'intérieur de sacoches premier prix. Les poignées, la selle, c'est du confort.
Idem pour le reste du matériel (tente, sac de couchage, matelas, popote...) à toi de choisir la gamme.
Es-tu plutôt aventurier ou technophile? 😎
merci merci pour ton message
donc je pense privilègier sur le velo , une bonne selle et les pneus , le reste je vais me diriger vers les 1er prix question sacoche et autres
en effet je suis plutot un aventurier mais qui pense un peu a son confort
mais question toile de tente legere deux personnes, cest assez chere^par contre !!
et question nourriture ! une question tres importante, comment procedes tu ? tachete au jour au jour ou bien des barre de cereales font l affaires ?😉
et question nourriture ! une question tres importante, comment procedes tu ? tachete au jour au jour ou bien des barre de cereales font l affaires ?😉
Tu ne peux pas manger des barres tout les jours! 🤪
Et puis cela te reviendra très cher...
Si tu pars l'été et que tu n'envisages pas d'en faire de nouveau, tu peux te contenter d'acheter des produits "à consommer" donc pas de réchaud et de popote: pain saucisson, fromage, salade, boissons, etc
Sinon, un petit réchaud et une popote (décathlon -pas chère- par exemple): le plus facile c'est la soupe (ça hydrate, et réchauffe en cas de mauvais temps) et la semoule (très nourrissant et pas besoin de faire chauffer beaucoup d'eau) avec ce que tu trouves dans les magasins sur la route (tomates, viande...) et des épices.
Au cas où, garde toujours quelques paquets de biscuits secs / fruits secs pour survivre en cas de problème ou fringale.
Et n'oublie pas, même si tu perds un peu le sens des dates- qu'un jour sur 7 est un dimanche et que les commerces peuvent être fermés! 😎
Désolé, je n'ai pas répondu à ta question: oui, j'achète quasi tout les jours (en France) pour deux raisons:
- j'aime manger des produits frais (pain, fruits et légumes, fromage...)
- porter la nourriture, c'est lourd!
Evidemment, je transporte des biscuits, semoule et riz pour un ou deux jours, épices, miel / confiture, sauces, soupes en sachet... ce que je ne consomme pas en un seul jour, plus un peu d'avance.
En France, il n'y a que très peu de risque de tomber en rade...
Côté matos et intendance :
Tente 2P : elles ne sont pas toutes à plus de 200€, loin s'en faut - à moins d'envisager une virée de plusieurs mois dans des pays humides, on peut se tourner vers une tente plus basique, et se munir d'une bâche plastique légère pour abriter le vélo et/ou s'isoler du sol les jours de pluie ...
Et pour la nourriture, réchaud + popote paraissent indispensables : la base en voyage, c'est bien sûr la préparation d'un plat chaud le soir : pâtes ou riz, soupes, .... c'est indispensable et évidemment moins coûteux que le resto ... quand aux barres énergétiques, à oublier, c'est hors de prix, souvent décevant, et ça ne remplace pas un petit déjeuner normal, une collation de fruits, ou même qqs victuailles achetées en routes : yaourt, fromage, etc ... En bref, l'idéal; c'est de garder en voyage une alimentation "normale"
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Je suis parti en budget cet été pendant six semaines avec mon vélotaf monté de porte-bagages et sacoches cyclo-randonnée, tente à 48€ sur amazon, 12€ de dépenses quotidiennes bouffe/musées. Pense aussi à regarder les sites d'occase, certains randonneurs bradent leurs sacoches pour passer à un autre modèle. Si le matériel high-tech et le haut de gamme sont des valeurs sûres, le D4 du coin (couchege, vêtements, accessoires) et amazon.fr peuvent te permettre de faire des affaires. De nouveau, visite www.cyclo-randonnee.fr, un incontournable pour les pièces.
Bonne préparation.
Fernweh
merci merci de tout les renseignements !!!
maintenant a moi seul d allumer l etincelle qui me permettra de partir
une derniere question ; comment faites vous pour vous diriger sur les routes , dun point a a un point b? carte, gps?
et dans un pays europeen sa se passe bien sinon?
Hello Greg,
En France et Irlande, j'ai utilisé des cartes IGN (1:25000) et Discovery. Très exactes et détaillées. Aucun problème rencontré.
Si tu fais plusieurs milliers de km, il faut peut-être un autre système (GPS) ou des cartes moins détaillées. Le problème d'un GPS ou smartphone, c'est qu'il faut le charger, et il y a parfois des erreurs.
Bonne route!
J'utilise pour ma part un Michelin, parfait pour les départementales, le tout étant complété par des cartes glanées dans les offices de tourisme locaux, c'est gratuit et on peut y avoir des renseignements de gens du cru.
Fernweh
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Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.