Je dois t'avouer que tu m'avais appris qlq chose ! C'était la 1ère fois que j'entendais parler de cette Nyala Gate.
Tu m'avais fait chercher ! Voici ce que je trouvais avec ton info: "Your search for King Nehale Iya Pingana Gate namibia did not match with any Web results. "
Of course ! 🙂 Finalement j'avais trouver !
Faut pas mettre des pièges dans les noms, comme ça ! 🤪
Faut pas imiter Francky qui parlait du "parc Makatwe" dans le Caprivi !
http://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_circuit_trois_semaines_au_botswana_en_septembre_2010_D3230091-4/
Celle-là je l'avais rangée sur mon disque dur !
🙂 😛 😉😉
Maintenant plus difficile:
Entre Kongola et Katima (en allant vers Chobé, nous dormirons le soir à Kasane) vaut-il mieux "tirer tout droit" par la B8 pour passer passer plus de temps à Chobe ou est-ce intéressant de "flâner" en passant par C49 (vers la Linyanti) ?
" Mais je pensais que tu aurais chargé Jacqueline de cette tâche importante, non , je me trompe ? 😛 🙂 "
Ben disons que Maxou voyage trèèèès léger... Il est donc plus préoccupé que moi qui emporte suffisamment de vêtements pour ne pas devoir lessiver (à part à la main qq pantalons en synthétique qui sèchent très vite) 😎
Mais oui.. j'ai déjà listé au road book qq lodges qui proposent leur service de blanchisserie (le problème, c'est qu'il faut souvent donner son linge déjà le matin pour le récupérer le lendemain matin... Alors qd on ne reste pas 2 nuits consécutives ds un même lodge, c'est impossible)
A très bientôt🙂
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5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Si j'avais pris la peine de consulter à ce moment mon petit atlas MAP Studio j'aurais vu le nom de Nehale Liya Mpinga gate ! 😊
Toi tu m'impressionnes avec cette superbe capture de carte que tu étales talentueusement sur "mon" écran ! 🙂 😉😉
Ps : j'ai mis un cache sur le 1/4 droit de mon écran afin d'être débarrassée de la pub: ça marche !😎
Je suis en train de finaliser mon planning, penses-tu qu'il soit intéressant / nécessaire de prendre des points GPS pour faire Chobe Front River ?
Y a-t-il des points remarquables ?, est-il facile de suivre la piste ?
Si tu as T4A dans le GPS pas grand chose de plus à y mettre.
Les points remarquables sont mouvants !
Oui, les pistes sont faciles à suivre et comme tout se passe parallèlement à la rivière, il n'y a pas de souci d'orientation.
Gaffe au sable mou quand même. Il faut garder l'élan !
Dernières nouvelles des restrictions de circulation pour les self-drivers : plus rien n'est en vigueur ces jours-ci.
Tu as deux options principales: le bord de l' eau ou pas le bord de l' eau...
La première était largement submrgée il y a quelques semaines, et ce ne devrait pas s' arranger d' ici à juillet: il y avait 2 mêtres de plus d' eau que d' habitude, et les locaux en attendaient encore deux de plus.
Je préfère quant à moi la piste qui n' est pas au bord de l' eau, car elle est traversée par TOUS les animaux qui vont à la rivière (on dit en allemand "Wildwechsel", je ne connais pas de mots en français). Et pour le côté rivière (hippos, éléphants qui nagent, crocks, etc..), je trouve que le mieux est évidemment depuis un bateau..
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penses-tu qu'il soit intéressant / nécessaire de prendre des points GPS pour faire Chobe Front River ? Y a-t-il des points remarquables ?, est-il facile de suivre la piste ?
A l' entrée du parc, on devrait te fournir cette carte (colorisée et un peu améliorée par mes soins pour une meilleure lisibilité) ... Elle est plus que suffisante ; il semble effectivement difficile de s' égarer à Chobe Front River !
où va-t-on si en plus les animaux bougent ! ils ne respecte vraiment rien ... hi, hi, hi
Il n'y a pas de point remarquables fixes ? genre Baobab, rochers divers et variés, forêt enchantée ou non ?
Dernières nouvelles des restrictions de circulation pour les self-drivers : plus rien n'est en vigueur ces jours-ci.
Je suis plongé sur ma carte Veronica Mars sponsorisée par Shell. Si j'ai bien compris la "route" qui passe par le Chobe Game Lodge, Serondela et Ihaha Camping est praticable mais toutes les pistes plus vers la rivières (notamment Puku Flats, Kabulabula) sont impraticables ?
Donc c'est une année "humide"?, cela veut dire que ceux qui ont prévus Moremi peuvent envisager de faire du snorkeling ! 😉
On peut toujours se consoler en se disant qu'on verra les Epupa Falls et Victoria Falls relativement chargées 😛
"Wildwechsel"
c'est vrai que "échange sauvage" est un peut bizarre comme expression. On dirait, je pense, point de passage des animaux sauvages, mais c'est plus long et moins évocateur hi, hi, hi
J'avais déjà repéré tes cartes et essayé de les agrandir pour gagner en lisibilité, mais pour pouvoir les mettre sur internet leur définition est devenu trop basse pour pouvoir espérer un A4.😮
Ce qui est un peu bizarre c'est que tu arrive à faire des "boucles", par exemple dans Puku Flats, alors que sur la carte de Veronica Roodt c'est en cul de sac, mais bon on dira "It's Africa" comme dirait Vinny.
Je vais tout de même prendre quelques points Gps ... plus pour le fun 😉.
Sinon du Senayti tu pouvais emprunter la petite piste qui permet de rejoindre directement le l'entrée du parc et le Chobe Safari Lodge en évitant Kasane ?
Ce qui est un peu bizarre c'est que tu arrive à faire des "boucles", par exemple dans Puku Flats, alors que sur la carte de Veronica Roodt c'est en cul de sac,
Il existe tout un réseau de pistes secondaires dans les méandres du fleuve : on s' y égare, on fait demi-tour, on y observe de nombreux animaux ; on y est par ailleurs beaucoup plus isolés que sur la toujours proche piste principale qu' il est toujours aisé rejoindre .
du Senayti tu pouvais emprunter la petite piste qui permet de rejoindre directement le l'entrée du parc et le Chobe Safari Lodge en évitant Kasane ?
Tu dois faire référence à cet autre post, et la dernière réponse de Vincent ?!
J' avoue ne pas l' avoir préalablement repérée et m' être contenté d' emprunter la route, peut-être que si c' était à refaire m' y risquerais-je ?!
Je suis allé à Moremi qui n' est pas sous les eaux pour le moment, quelques passages un peu humides sur la "dry route" entre Hippo pool et Third bridge, et la Khwai River non franchissable à la sortie Nord (pour moi, je répugne à y aller quand la hauteur de l' eau au repos dépasse celle des phares du Def), je ne sais pas ce qu'il en sera en juin..
Bon amusement..
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le Chobe River front n'est pas le delta.
Si le niveau de l'eau monte dans le delta progressivement jusqu'en août il baisse sur le river front de Chobe.
Il est possible que les puku flats soit praticables en juillet
a cette époque de l'année les animaux tardent à rejoindre la rivière (plus tard dans la matinée), donc comme le dit Bolo cube c'est la piste secondaire la mieux. Pour voir des chats également.
Mais de toute façon tu fais les 2 comme ça t'es sûr de rien rater
pour senyati, oui tu files toujours tout droit jusqu'à retrouver le route goudronnée de l'autre côté de la forêt. je ne me rappelle plus si on avait emprunté la piste qui passe derrière l'aéroport ?
en tout cas ça fait un beau raccourci. Tu demandes à senyati en arrivant ils vont te renseigner.
et oublie un peu ton GPS et regarde plutôt le paysage et les animaux 😉
merci 🙂🙂🙂 même si nous ne sommes pas aussi aventureux que vous.
Nous ne ferons que Chobe Front River puis direction Victoria Falls avant de reprendre l'avion
pour senyati, oui tu files toujours tout droit jusqu'à retrouver le route goudronnée de l'autre côté de la forêt. je ne me rappelle plus si on avait emprunté la piste qui passe derrière l'aéroport ?
nickel, oui c'est celle qui passe derrière l'aéroport
et oublie un peu ton GPS
pas facile ... on ne se refait pas .... mais je fais des efforts 😉
Ayant un peu de temps je me "promène avec Google Earth vers Chobe et Kasane" et il y a quelque chose qui m'intrigue:
Sur Google on voit une piste qui part du Chobe Safari Lodge et qui longe le Chobe mais sans passer la Sidudu Gate. Ce qui est contraire aux carte Shell et Garmin. Quand est-il ?
C'est si tu as un moment pour te pencher sur ma "micro" interrogation 😉
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Max
PS: une deuxième question me vient à l'esprit:
comme nous arriverons par Ngoma pour nous rendre à Kasane (mais en restant sur la route car nous voulons être à Kasane pour pouvoir faire un Boat Cruise et je crois que c'est à 15h) serait-il judicieux de prendre à ce moment le pass d'entrée pour le lendemain que nous passerons dans le parc? et est-ce possible ?
Réponse bien que la question ne me soit pas adressée: sur T4A, ces "chemins" sont catalogués "Riverboat track", soit plus ou moins des canaux pour bateaux..C' est d' ailleurs assez visible également sur Gogol.
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pour la première question c'est non, il n'y a pas d'accès de CSL au parc il faut impérativement passer par Sidudu gate.
pour la deuxième question je sais pas 🙂
Comme tu passes devant et si tu as le temps tu t'arrêtes et tu poses la question, ça pourra effectivement te pêrmettre de gagner du temps le lendemain matin
Tu sais je suis en train de découvrir la ville: où manger, où se trouve le Wildlife Office pour acheter les billets, où acheter de la viande (ça il y en a des pages pleines sur les sites Sudafs, apparemment ils ne rigolent pas avec la viande😉)
On pourrait traduire cela par "je rêve en avance" 😛
Lors de ta récente tournée Australe où as-tu bien mangé à Kasane ? 😛
J'ai trouvé des avis sur l'Old House mais on dirait qu'ils ont arrêté le restaurant pour ne faire plus que pension
C'est peut-être l"heure du repas qui approche qui m'amène à ce genre de pensée 😉
Le boat cruise était le mois dernier à 15h (Kubu Lodge) avec départ du Lodge à 14h30, et il fallait l' avoir réservée avant 10h le matin...
Pour ce qui est de la "Ville" de Kasane, il ne faut pas se prendre le chou: il y a un centre commercial avec un SPAR (source principale d' approvisionnements en tous genres, en fait ce n 'est qu'une rue principale avec des bâtiments plus ou moins terminés de part et d' autre. Les mieux achevés sont à mon sens celui de la police et la prison régionale..globalement (comme pas mal d' autres "villes" comme Rundu, Maun, etc..., cela ressemble à des avant-postes tropicaux plus ou moins terminés)..
Quant à la viande (l' âge aidant, j' en mange de moins en moins à l' inverse des Sudaf), je me permets deux suggestions:
- Tout d' abord, essaies absolument de la prendre soit congelée soit emballée sous vide, sinon elle risque de mal se conserver (j' ai du jeter après trois jours de la viande achetée au SPAR de Ghanzi et qui puait bien que je l' aie mise au frigo).
- En deuxième lieu, un conseil de ma copine (black belge originaire de RDC et très bonne cuisinière): en Afrique, la viande, tu l' achètes, tu la cuis, tu la manges et s' il y en a trop, tu la gardes cuite pour la faire rechauffer...
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Le premier soir (suite à une incompréhension avec le Kubu Lodge au téléphone et parce que arrivés trop tard car mon binôme avait trainé sur le River Front avec son 130), dormi au Chobe Safari Lodge que je n' ai pas beaucoup apprécié: places de camping exigues, restau "buffet" (j' ai horreur de ce genre de truc, ça se vend au mêtre linéaire et non à la qualité) médiocre. C' est un grand caravansérail, avec les avantages et inconvénients subséquents. Le fait qu' il soit "en ville" ne présente aucun intérêt, dans la mesure où il n' y a plus ou moins rien à faire en ville sauf les courses qu 'on fait en voiture.
Les deuxième et troisième au Kubu (où j' étais déjà allé en formule "luxe" c.a.d. hébergement en dur avec maman il y a 4 ans), service nickel, très bonne bouffe, etc...
Je ne suis pas extrêmement pénible sur la bouffe, j' aime les choses simples, la viande tendre, de beaux légumes, le riz pas collant, les salades fraiches, etc..juste pour t' indiquer l'aune de mon jugement.
En revanche, j' ai eu deux ou trois fois au Botswana de très désagréables surprises, que je ne peux nommer ici, cela veut simplement dire qu'il faut être prudent..
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Je ne suis pas extrêmement pénible sur la bouffe, j' aime les choses simples, la viande tendre, de beaux légumes, le riz pas collant, les salades fraiches, etc..
pareil pour nous avec une bonne petite bouteille de vin et ce sera parfait 😛.
Je posais la question car nous logerons au Senyati Safari Camp et il n'y a pas de restauration sur place. Comme nous y serons 2 jours j'aurais bien fait 1x restaurant, 1x braii.
En revanche, j' ai eu deux ou trois fois au Botswana de très désagréables surprises, que je ne peux nommer ici, cela veut simplement dire qu'il faut être prudent..
madame est très prudente 😇
Une de ses craintes, c'est qu'il n'y ai pas beaucoup de légumes en Namibie et au Botswana
Je ne sais pas dans quelle mesure les "petits" lodges prennent des visiteurs pour le restau le soir.
Une chose est certaine, les places sont limitées, et il faut en tant que de besoin réserver avant 13/14h.
Je ne peux que recommander le Kubu, le restau (30 places à l' intérieur maxi et autant en terrasse) surplombe la rivière, c' est petit et très attentionné. Il faut demander "Beauty" à la réception, c' est une dame black très gentille (pas très belle mais on s' en fout)..la règle étant la même partout en Afrique (initialement pour les passages de douane): walk in, smile, be patient, stamp, walk out..
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
C'est vrai que le Kubu serait bien car proche du Senyati
walk in, smile, be patient, stamp, walk out
c'est tout moi ça 🤪 je n'ai pas pris de dessert au restaurant hier soir car le service était trop lent et les serveuses peu souriantes et hautaines. Plus sérieusement "stamp" je ne connais pas ?
comme nous arriverons par Ngoma pour nous rendre à Kasane (mais en restant sur la route car nous voulons être à Kasane pour pouvoir faire un Boat Cruise et je crois que c'est à 15h) serait-il judicieux de prendre à ce moment le pass d'entrée pour le lendemain que nous passerons dans le parc? et est-ce possible ?
Le Boat Cruise est à réserver dès que tu arrives à Kasane !
Je ne vois pas trop l' intérêt de prendre le Pass d' entrée la veille : nous l' avons obtenu en 5 minutes à Sedudu Gate !
madame est très prudente 😇 Une de ses craintes, c'est qu'il n'y ai pas beaucoup de légumes en Namibie et au Botswana
Perso, nous ne sommes pas très viande, et sur le braii, c' est souvent des tomates, des oignons, des poivrons ... qui grillaient, tandis que les patates cuisaient dans la braise . Pas de soucis pour les fruits et légumes, tu peux rassurer Madame 😉 !
celle-là elle était facile ... il faut dire je l'ai bien cherché 😊.
En fait lui me dit qu'il n'a jamais eu de problème et que le loueur respecte les critères CARAN.
Du coup je me demandais si un petit mail directement au loueur ... au passage je pourrais lui demander s'il y a une pelle, un compresseur, une sangle, etc ... (d'ailleurs que faudrait-il encore comme "etc" ?
Qu'en penses-tu ?, si oui en quelle langue lui écrire Allemand ou Anglais 😮
Ben mon vieux… Ça c'est de la préparation à Kasane ! 😮
Il y avait un KFC en construction en 2010. Doit être ouvert maintenant ! 😏
C'est qui le loueur ? Si c'est African Tracks, tu peux y aller en allemand ! Mais c'est sur place, si ce que te propose ne correspond pas à tes attentes et à ce qu'on t'a promis qu'il faudra avoir le temps et la patience de discuter… La réussite des vacances en dépend en partie.
s'il y a une pelle, un compresseur, une sangle, etc ... (d'ailleurs que faudrait-il encore comme "etc" ?
Un panier de fruits et légumes: les bons TO le font! Si!😛
En Namibie, dans les villes, et à Swakop en particulier (y vas-tu?) l'achalandage de fruits et légumes est digne des meilleurs supermarchés berlinois.
Mam' Voyajou est mi-sirène mi-limace: dans cette région (comme aux Etats-Unis d'ailleurs) tu peux te régaler même si tu n'est pas viandard.
il reste encore deux mois, il faut que je m'occupe ... et tu sais que j'aime préparer longuement mes périples, cela me permet de "voyager" et rêver pendant plusieurs mois.😎
Il y avait un KFC en construction en 2010.
connais pas ces initiales ... ne font pas parties de mon registre alimentaire 😉
Je rajouterais même que cela enlève du charme à Kasane 😮
Mais c'est sur place, si ce que te propose ne correspond pas à tes attentes et à ce qu'on t'a promis qu'il faudra avoir le temps et la patience de discuter…
oui et eux ils savent qu'ils ont le temps contrairement à moi, européen pressé et stressé 🤪
J'aurais une question... euh mettons plusieurs😊 ...concernant Victoria Falls ... tu vois je suis à la fin de ma préparation de périple ... plus qu'à faire un plan de l'aéroport de VIC😉
Lorsqu'on visite le parc au bord des chutes peut-on rejoindre le Victoria Falls Bridge ?, sur T4A le sentier s'arrête à un view point (Livingston Bridge) et ne continu pas jusqu'à la route du pont.
Deuxième question: peut-on monter sur ce pont ?, puisqu'il semble être sur la frontière.
Et question de madame Maxou, plus pragmatique: qu'est-ce qu'on mangera à midi en pique nique ?
Si je peux proposer des réponses:
1-non, il faut revenir à l'entrée du parc
2-oui, on peut traverser le pont, le poste est de l'autre côté du fleuve
3-ce serait le jour pour "pique-niquer" d'un lunch léger au Victoria Falls Hotel pour une plongée ... dans l'histoire, bercé par le grondement des chutes. Des terrases et jardins, on a vue sur le pont.
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Mafate Randos
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards