Voulant relier Sion (Valais, Suisse) au lac de Constance, en tandem avec une carriole, je me pose la question suivante:
On ne recherche pas du tout la prestation physique, mais plutôt du cyclotourisme sympa avec notre fille de 2 ans.
Vaut il mieux emprunter le vélo route 1 et 2?
J'avoue avoir un penchant pour la vélo route 9 (celle des lacs) pour la beauté des paysages, les campings, et les baignades éventuelles... mais elle me semble plus difficile (mais il me semble qu'on peut passer tous les cols par le train, non?)
Sur l'itinéraire 1-2 vous allez être confrontés une difficulté majeure que sont la Furka et l'Oberalp. Ce sont des cols respectables pour un cycliste entraîné et léger, pour un tandem chargé avec remorque il faut vraiment être sûr de soi. De plus, ce sont des axes majeurs pour le tourisme motorisé : les beaux week-ends d'été c'est un défilé continu de hordes de motards. Il y a des trains (Oberwald - Andermatt - Disentis) mais vous devriez vérifier les possibilités de chargement parce que vous n'allez pas être faciles à faire entrer dans ces "petits trains" avec votre tandem et tout votre chargement. Aussi, une bonne partie de la remontée de la vallée du Rhône et de la descente de celle du Rhin jusqu'à Coire semblent être sur des petits chemins non goudronnés. C'est difficile de savoir à l'avance à quoi s'attendre, mais à la montagne ces chemins pourraient être quand même assez cahoteux (pour votre fille dans sa charrette) et assez physiques (pour vous).
Sur l'itinéraire 9, le dénivelé total pourrait bien être aussi important sinon plus, mais mieux réparti. Et là où ça grimpe vous serez hors des grands axes de trafic. Il y aura aussi des tronçons non goudronnés mais peut-être moins "extrêmes" (mais c'est une hypothèse que je fais là...). Personnellement c'est plutôt ce choix-là que je ferais.
Encore plus facile mais quand même moins pittoresque : la route 5 par les Trois-Lacs et l'Aar.
Je pense qu'on va passer effectivement par la route des lacs. Et dans l'idée on va essayer d'éviter les cols via le ferro-routage (si possibilité). Je voudrai miser au maximum sur la sécurité... et éviter au max la circulation (on a quand même une belle envergure à nous 3...)
Tu sais si la route 9 est composé essentiellement de voies cyclables, ou est ce qu'on partage souvent notre route avec les automobilistes?
Ça dépend toujours ce qu'on entend par "voie cyclable". De manière générale, la philosophie des itinéraires "la Suisse à Vélo" est de rester hors du trafic, presque à n'importe quel prix. C'est pour cela qu'ils passent parfois par des chemins pas très roulants, non goudronnés, avec parfois des détours bizarres ou des bosses supplémentaires. Ça a tendance à m'énerver quand je suis en vélo de route... mais pour de la rando tranquille en famille c'est bien fichu. Concrètement, ça passera surtout par des petites routes avec un peu de trafic local, et des chemins vicinaux / agricoles sans trafic ou presque. Il peut aussi y avoir des tronçons sur routes de moyenne importance, avec la plupart du temps au moins une bande cyclable. Et bien sûr, parfois on peut avoir à prendre l'unique grand-route comme dans les grands cols alpins, mais c'est plutôt exceptionnel.
Pour ma part j'ai déjà fait a peu près cela
Bâle constance Zurich Lausanne geneve
par le 2 et le 5
c'est disons relativement plat
depuis Sion, rejoindre donc Lausanne Aubonne et ensuite aller sur Yverdon-les-Bains sur Zurich constance
donc sauf erreur 1,2,5
il me semble que c'est le moins difficile
les parcours des grands cols sont très difficiles
j'ai essayé alors a route des lacs, j'ai abandonné
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour Fanny,
J'ai fait le voyage Romanshorn Sion à vélo et donc Sion Romanshorn en train par le Lötschberg. J'ai suivi la route 5. C'est le plus beau voyage que j'aie fait à vélo. Du plat, 80% sur des chemins dédiés très bien entretenus, la Suisse carte postale avec toute les maisons des catalogues dans les zones résidentielles des bords de lacs, le fil de l'Aar m'a beaucoup plu, des champs, des cultures, les blés étaient encore sur pied. Je faisais entre 60 et 70 km par jour. Mes genoux en mauvais état n'ont presque pas souffert. J'ai suivi le fléchage bien fait. La traversée du canton de Vaud un peu plus fastidieuse. Je souhaite le refaire dans quelques années avec mon neveu. En attendant, je peux me vanter d'avoir traverser la Suisse. Je vous souhaite tout le bonheur possible qu'apporte le voyage à vélo. Bonne route!
Meilleures pensées
bonjour, nous avons fait le tour de la suisse a velo il y a 7 ans en vtt avec notre fille de 1an1/2 en cariole :
- je n'ai pas le souvenir de beaucoup de routes cahotiques car les routes de la suisse a velo meme les plus petites sont tres souvent roulantes.
- les conducteurs de voiture en suisse sont super respectueux des velos et encore plus des carioles avec enfants (ce n'est pas du chauvinisme car je ne suis pas suisse)
- nous avons fait le furkapass en velo et quelques autres cols sans probleme : il faut partir tot le matin, prendre son temps surtout avec des enfants on s'arrete souvent (c'est la bonne excuse pour se reposer) il y a quelques super camping dont certains avec des piscines ou des entrees dans les bains thermaux et on peut meme se recompenser de l'effort par un petit hotel si l'etape a ete longue.
- nous avions fait entre autre la route 1 et 2 attention au vent le long du rhone et du rhin. nous avions eu le vent de face a chaque etape le long des 2 courts d'eau. nous faisions le tour de suisse dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d'une montre. charge et avec une cariole se n'est plus un detail d'avoir le vent de face !!!
bon voyage, ce fut un de nos plus beau voyage a velo parfois difficile mais superbe !!!
bjr à tous;j'ai l'intention egalement d'effectuer le tour de la Suisse cet été par les routes 1,2,5;et je me demandais dans quel sens valait il mieux le faire?sens des aiguilles ou l'inverse?sachant que je démarre de Geneve et retour idem;merci du renseignement;
bjour, nous avions fait en partant de geneve la route n1, 2 puis un ptit tour vers st-moritz, puis direction lac de constance, les chutes du rhin et zurich. zurich-geneve en train car nos 3 semaines de vacances etaient ecoulees !!! aucun probleme pour dormir en bivouac, ni trouver un place de camping. du vent de face le long du rhone et du rhin. aucun probleme pour les passages de col et de tunnels (prevoir des lumieres efficaces). 3 semaines de bonheur si on sait prendre le temps. en suisse tout est pense pour les deplacements a velo : le train, le bus, les places pour velo devant les magasins, les routes pour les velos....
pour d'autres renseignements me joindre en message prive
isa
je te conseille le sens des aiguilles d'une montre. le lac de joux, sainte croix, saignelegier, tu roules au dessus des collines c'est joli et ca te permet de preparer physiquement pour les grands cols des alpes.
bsr Isa, merci de ta réponse je commence à etudier de pres mon parcours et je retiens ta proposition de te questionner en mppour plus de renseignements;merci encore. Roland
tu peux rassurer ton epouse a propos des deniveles en lui disant que je suis une petite gringalette de 50 kg et que mes petites jambes ne m'ont pas posee de probleme pour gravir les deniveles. et quelle satisfaction quand on arrive en haut !!!
elle vient de faire son 1er col(col de Vence, pour les sudistes..) 7% sur 10kms, arrivée en haut tout sourire et surprise d'y etre!! tout espoir n'est pas perdu donc! merci a plus
BJR JE REVIENS SUR CE POST....je prepare mon tour de Suisse, est il vraiment utile de se procurer les guides des itineraires nationaux de veloen suisse pour circuler en suisse ou bien une simple carte de la suisse suffit?en suivant le balisage des dites voies(1,5,9,2..) merci d'avance.
Les itineraires sont extremement bien balises et le guide n'est pas necessaire ; une bonne carte routiere suffit a mon avis. En plus le site la Suisse a velo est super bien fait, on ne trouve rien de plus dans les guides, donc il suffit de prendre les informations avant de partir !
bsr et merci de ta réponse , depuis ma demande j'ai retrouvé le post que tu me conseilles et comme tu me l'indiques je me suis procuré une carte de suisse plus les indics du site de velo en suisse merci encore et bonne route egalement
Voyager à vélo › Suisse / France › Sud-Ouest · 9 replies
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17 days, 1,400 km, and 17,500 m of elevation gain cycling in northern Vietnam! 🇻🇳 🚴🇻🇳
From the misty Fansipan to the breathtaking landscapes of the Ha Giang Loop, from remote villages to vibrant markets...
I cycled through the north of the country, getting up close with its people—through mud, heat, endless mountain passes, and unforgettable encounters.
Most importantly, I discovered a Vietnam far different from the usual tourist circuits.
Join me on this adventure through a video that captures these 17 days of travel. :)
If Vietnam calls to you, come ride a stretch with me!
Another long-time dream of Claudio’s: the Petit Mont Cenis pass and the dam at the eponymous lake.
A place where many Italians, including my father, worked in the 1950s–60s.
Faverges → St-Michel-de-Maurienne → Lanslebourg → Petit Mont Cenis → return. 315 km, 3 days. Bivouac at St-Michel-de-M.
Brouter link
Leg One: Faverges → St-Michel-de-Maurienne
Leg Two: St-Michel → Lanslebourg → Mont Cenis Lake → St-Michel
Leg Three: St-Michel → Faverges
And it finally happened in August 2026: in the Maurienne Valley about the famous cycle route known as the V67
🇷🇼 Cycling in Rwanda: 4 episodes, an off-the-beaten-path adventure
After 3 weeks and nearly 1,200 km by bike across Rwanda, I made 4 videos to share this adventure in a different way: the landscapes, the encounters, the villages… but above all, all those incredible scenes of everyday life.
The 4 episodes are available here:
👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGnfbxjccWAg
The 4th episode focuses on rural Rwandan life: simple, authentic, and sometimes surprising scenes that you only truly discover when you take the time to travel by bike.
If you have a few minutes, let yourself be transported to Rwanda…
Hi, I'm looking for info on cycling to Nordkapp via the EuroVelo 7. Has anyone done it already, and where’s the best place to start the EuroVelo 7?
Thanks
Hi,
We bought the MSR bike tent model (2-person + large awning that can fit 2 bikes) back in 2005. It’s served us really well, especially during a year-long trip in Africa. Now, one of the poles is broken, and we’d love to replace it since that’s the only issue with the tent—we still love it! The poles are 9.35 mm in diameter, with 8 sections of 49 cm and 2 sections of 28 cm. Total length when assembled: 416 cm. Actually, two large sections are broken: one straight and one curved. It’s a pain to find replacements since this model is no longer sold anywhere.
Would anyone have this model lying around unused and be willing to sell me a pole?
Looking for a female travel companion for a cycling trip (arriving by plane in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and cycling toward Montevideo, Uruguay, returning by plane to France from Buenos Aires, Argentina) – 1,500 km
Hello everyone!
I’m planning a cycling trip across Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina, with a departure set for late October, November, or December. I’m looking for a travel companion to share this long-distance adventure with.
Experience:
I already have solid experience in bicycle touring in Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan. Currently, I maintain excellent physical condition by cycling an average of 250 km over 3 days per week (4 hours a day at 20 km/h).
The trip & the pace:
Daily pace: Between 50 and 80 km per day, to make steady progress while taking time to explore.
Accommodation: Flexible and authentic. We’ll alternate between wild camping, campsites, Warmshowers, small guesthouses, and budget hotels depending on opportunities and the weather.
Looking forward to reading your message and planning this amazing journey together!
Hi everyone,
In early April, I’m redoing the Vélo Francette (La Rochelle to Ouistreham), and then I’d like to cycle along the Cotentin Peninsula (which I don’t know at all), follow the coast up to Cherbourg, and then head back down to at least Saint-Malo. I’d love to know if it’s pleasant for cycling—are the roads nice? Not too windy? What are the must-see spots? Any great campsites? All your tips and advice are more than welcome, and I thank you in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike to meet some friends in Côte d’Ivoire in early November.
I’ll be starting in Abidjan and heading to Abengourou, which is close to the Ghana border.
I’d like to take the trails. Does anyone have recent info on eastern Côte d’Ivoire?
Any tips, safety advice, or must-see stops? I’m open to all suggestions.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Fx
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
I just took a trip in Tunisia from Tozeur to Douz, skirting Chott el Jerid to the south. I’m back with the urge to keep going further south via the 4x4 tracks to connect Douz to Ksar Ghilane. Has anyone driven this route recently or explored southern Tunisia?
Thanks for your tips!
fix
😎Fellow traveling cyclists or not, all of you who love travel, the pleasure of physical effort, nature, beautiful machines, people with true passions they seek to fulfill, and who also enjoy reading great literature about all this—the *200* magazine is for you just as it is for me. I should mention I have no financial or other interest in this (in an era where we accuse our politicians of all sorts of vile interests, I prefer to take precautions). I’ve been subscribed since the beginning, and every three months, I get my 130 pages of dreams (the magazine just went from 110 to 130 pages).
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc
PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hello,
Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.