je vais avoir 3 semaines de vacances en fin aout debut septembre et je voudrais aller en argentine, mais le probleme, c'est que je serais super interessé d'aller vers la peninsule de valdes pour les animaux et surtout les baleines, et de voir les glaciers et ushuaiai! alors je voulais surtout savoir si c'etait faisable en voiture? les routes sont accessibles?et ne vais je pas trop avoir froid? merci jen
Péninsule de Valdes et Ushuaia en septembre en voiture (Argentine)
by Jennydee
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous
je vais avoir 3 semaines de vacances en fin aout debut septembre et je voudrais aller en argentine, mais le probleme, c'est que je serais super interessé d'aller vers la peninsule de valdes pour les animaux et surtout les baleines, et de voir les glaciers et ushuaiai! alors je voulais surtout savoir si c'etait faisable en voiture? les routes sont accessibles?et ne vais je pas trop avoir froid? merci jen
je vais avoir 3 semaines de vacances en fin aout debut septembre et je voudrais aller en argentine, mais le probleme, c'est que je serais super interessé d'aller vers la peninsule de valdes pour les animaux et surtout les baleines, et de voir les glaciers et ushuaiai! alors je voulais surtout savoir si c'etait faisable en voiture? les routes sont accessibles?et ne vais je pas trop avoir froid? merci jen
Salut,
C'est la meilleure saison pour Valdès. Par contre il fera froid certainement à Ushuaia et surement meme de la neige. La route est tout à fait faisable en voiture normale mais vu le temps que tu as ce risque d'etre un peu juste.
Bonne ballace
ESPACLA http://espacla.chez-alice.fr
C'est la meilleure saison pour Valdès. Par contre il fera froid certainement à Ushuaia et surement meme de la neige. La route est tout à fait faisable en voiture normale mais vu le temps que tu as ce risque d'etre un peu juste.
Bonne ballace
ESPACLA http://espacla.chez-alice.fr
Espacla
Perso, je te conseille vivement le parc des glaciers Perito moreno très accessible toute l'année à priori.
Les environs sont superbes et aussi le Fitz roy à "proximité".
Ushuaia, c'est mythique mais pas exceptionnel et la route est vraiment longue pour y arriver avec peu d'intérêt paysager sur la majeure partie du parcours. Si tu tiens vraiment à ushuaia, fais un saut en avion si tu en as les moyens. Sinon bus de nuit éventuellement.
Dans les autres incontournables de l'argentine, c'est Iguacu, grandiose vraiment.
Pour nous un des numéros un de notre tour d'amérique du sud, c'est le sud lipez et le salar d'uyuni en Bolivie. Un endroit vraiment unique et magique.
Tchao
ESPACLA
Tchao
ESPACLA
Espacla
Effectivement oublies ushuaia car tu risques de cailler grave a cette epoque de l annee et en plus c est pas ce qu il y a de mieux...
"El corazon tiene sus razones que la razon no entiende..."
Pas d'hésitation, va à la Péninsule de Valdes... J'y étais en novembre dernier et cela restera un énorme souvenirs... des centaines de baleines... Tu peux les voir nager, plonger, sauter...
Je te conseille également de loger à Puerto Piramides, beaucoup plus sympa qu'a Puerto Madryn !!
Pour les routes vers El Calafate, je suis sûr que tu ne recontreras pas de problème car la ville est grande et touristique. Par contre, pour El Chalten, il faudra que tu te renseignes plus tard... la route groudronnée est en construction et par mauvais temps la piste est un peu chaotique.
Par ailleurs, cela ne vaut pas vraiment la peine d'aller à Ushuaïa... il n'y a rien d'extraordinaire là-bas. En plus, en trois semaines, à mon avis c'est pas possible d'aller à Ushuaïa à moins de vouloir passer ces vacances dans la voiture.
@++ Seb
Pour les routes vers El Calafate, je suis sûr que tu ne recontreras pas de problème car la ville est grande et touristique. Par contre, pour El Chalten, il faudra que tu te renseignes plus tard... la route groudronnée est en construction et par mauvais temps la piste est un peu chaotique.
Par ailleurs, cela ne vaut pas vraiment la peine d'aller à Ushuaïa... il n'y a rien d'extraordinaire là-bas. En plus, en trois semaines, à mon avis c'est pas possible d'aller à Ushuaïa à moins de vouloir passer ces vacances dans la voiture.
@++ Seb
Bonjour
Contrairement à ce que l'on peut imaginer, il ne fait pas si froid dans ces zones là. L'influence maritime est importante et améliore la température.
A puerto madryn il y a une végétation qui ne peut pousser que dans des régions extrèmement tempérées et qui craignent le gel: par ex les mimosas. Donc pas de souci. De plus il parait qu'en septembre, c'est le mois où les aleines arrivent. Elles y sont au maximum; femelles et mâles; après les mâmes repartent ( ils viennent pour l'accouplement avec les femelles disponibles, les autres, elles, viennent pour mettre bas...Donc un peu plus tard (oct/nov) il y a les baleineaux sans les papas....
Le gars qui pilotaient le bateau dans lequel j'étais en nov. dernier nous disait que c'était très intéressant en sept.
Ushuaia n'est parait-il jamais très froid, même en plein hiver. Par contre il peut y avoir de la neige.
Si tu veux je te donne l'adresse d'une amie qui vit à Ushuaia et qui loue des chambres dans sa superbe maison ( très intéressant pcq moins cher que l'hotel et la maison est super agréable...SPA...) Même si tu ne veux pas louer chez elle, tu peux lui demander des infos sur le climat. Tu lui écris de la part de Nicole ( de France)
Son mail: mery_av1@yahoo.com.ar
Demande lui l'adresse de son site ( je l'ai perdu ) et tu verras ce qu'elle propose
Nicole
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Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
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et bien merci pour ta reponse!!
dire que je croyais que j'allais mourir de froid!!!
au moins pour la peninsule de valdes, c'est certains que c'est accessible en voiture!
excuse moi, mais ton amie qui est a ushuaia, elle comprend le francais?
e, core merci, toutes ces reponses me rassurent
e, core merci, toutes ces reponses me rassurent
non maria teresa ne parle pas français mais elle peut faire des efforts pour comprendre...elle connait qq mots et arrive à communiquer.
C'est ainsi que nous avons fait les premières fois.
Cela dit, à Ushuaia il ne fera pas tout à fait très chaud! pense à amener des choses chaudes. Je ne t'ai pas dit q tu serais en maillot de bain!!!!!
Je plaisante!
De toute façon, me^me en plein été, il ne fait pas très chaud: beaucoup de vent. Utilise des vêtements qui coupe ce genre de truc désagréable.
Si tu veux voir des photos d'argentine et d'Ushuaia en particulier va sur mon site: http://brondy.free.fr et fouille!
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
De ce que j ai vu tre recemment, c est a dire en fevrier...
Buenos Aires - Ushuaia, en voiture pas de souci puisque la route est bonne. Seule petit soucis, il faut traverser la frontiere chilienne et avec un voiture de location c est impossible. La, un peu de pistes pendant une centaine de kilometres mais ca roule bien. Par contre al epoque dont tu parles c est clair que tu risques de le regretter entre la neige, le foid, et les journees tres courtes pour conduire... C est pas le pied. D une facon generale en argentin les routes sont bonnes, et qund bien meme c est de la piste, ca roule.
La peninsula valdes. A partir de deux personnes c est plus rentables de louer une voiture (180 pesos par jour) que de prendre une excursion toute organisee depuis puerto madryn (au minimum 120 pesos par personne sans compter l entre du parc bien souvent). D ans la peninsula c est que de la piste, des fois un peu chiante parce qu il mettent un genre de gravier grossier qui gicle partout. Enfin c est quand meme tres agreable d avoir sa propre voiture (nous c est ce qu on a fait).
Voila voila poum poum
Buenos Aires - Ushuaia, en voiture pas de souci puisque la route est bonne. Seule petit soucis, il faut traverser la frontiere chilienne et avec un voiture de location c est impossible. La, un peu de pistes pendant une centaine de kilometres mais ca roule bien. Par contre al epoque dont tu parles c est clair que tu risques de le regretter entre la neige, le foid, et les journees tres courtes pour conduire... C est pas le pied. D une facon generale en argentin les routes sont bonnes, et qund bien meme c est de la piste, ca roule.
La peninsula valdes. A partir de deux personnes c est plus rentables de louer une voiture (180 pesos par jour) que de prendre une excursion toute organisee depuis puerto madryn (au minimum 120 pesos par personne sans compter l entre du parc bien souvent). D ans la peninsula c est que de la piste, des fois un peu chiante parce qu il mettent un genre de gravier grossier qui gicle partout. Enfin c est quand meme tres agreable d avoir sa propre voiture (nous c est ce qu on a fait).
Voila voila poum poum
merci à tous pour vos reponses!
du coup, ushuaia, je crois que je vais oublié, mais ce'st vrai aussi, que j'avais pas pensé au nombre d'heure de jour en fin aout debut septembre!!! du coup, ca me freine un peu quand meme pour y aller, peut etr que je devrais attendre le jour ou j'aurai des vacances plus adequates, pour en profiter d'avantage!!! a reflechir!! en tout cas, merci à tous!
du coup, ushuaia, je crois que je vais oublié, mais ce'st vrai aussi, que j'avais pas pensé au nombre d'heure de jour en fin aout debut septembre!!! du coup, ca me freine un peu quand meme pour y aller, peut etr que je devrais attendre le jour ou j'aurai des vacances plus adequates, pour en profiter d'avantage!!! a reflechir!! en tout cas, merci à tous!
Salut.
j'ai fait le même parcours l'an dernier. Buenos-Aires / Valdés / Galafate / Ushuaia en 3 semaines, mais en avion. Si tu veux le faire en voiture, vérifie bien les distances, et si c'est du bitume.
Pour ce qui est de la Péninsule de valdes. C'était bien mais sans plus . Car tu vois les mammifères marins, mais de loin, vraiment d'assez loin. Pour les baleines c'est vraiment au hasard. J'y suis allé à mi-novembre (fin de saison des baleines) j'ai vu le dos des baleines, ceux d'avant n'ont rien vu, ceux du jour précèdent ont vu les baleines jouer ensemble.
Pour avoir discuter avec des voyageurs le long de la descente, j'ai un peu regretté de n'être pas passé par Baricoche puis Puerto-Montt. J'ai eu un super echo de cette région, sauvage, boisé, ... histoire de goût.
Sinon, pour l'extrême sud. je te conseille GALAFATE et le Perito Moreno, puis El Chalten. Ensuite le Parc Chilien de Puerto Natales / Torres del Paine. Vraiment chouette;
Pour descendre à Ushuaia. C'est facile en bus. mais 12-16 heures. Ne crains pas le froid a Ushuaia, c'est abrité au fond d'une rade, prend plutôt attention à Puerto natales. Mais un pull polaire suffit.
Pour les photos : http://www.trid-tour.com/Photo-Patagonia.htm
trid. Kenavo.
Pour les photos : http://www.trid-tour.com/Photo-Patagonia.htm
trid. Kenavo.
Wise is not wise
Bonjour
je voudrais avoir ton avis si tu permets
je pars à buenos Aires Septembre prochain, ensuite, faute de temps, je vais de contenter de faire un aller-retour en avion vers El calafate; que me conseille-tu concernant les vols interieurs?
merci d'avance
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
Déja, si t'as pas bcq de tps sur place, c'est LA bonne idée de prendre l'avion de BA à GALAFATE.
J'etais parti avec Aerolineas, avec un pass 4 vols internes pour env. 500 euros (1 bonne affaire)
Mais j'ai eu des soucis avec cette compagnie. Bagages égaré puis retrouvé, vol retardé, vol annulé à cause d'une grève. Peut-etre une mauvaise periode ...
Je ne sais pas s'il y a d'autre compagnie qui font le trajet, mais un conseil reste valable, il faut mieux prendre des vols interieurs argentins depuis ton pays d'origine. C'est bcq moins cher car t'es consideré comme touriste et non resident-travailleur en argentine.
Bonne vac' en Argentine, tu vas te regaler.
Trid
Bonne vac' en Argentine, tu vas te regaler.
Trid
Wise is not wise
Bonjour
merci de tes precieux conseils
je pense partir avec Air Europa qui a inauguré avant hier son 1er vol pour Buenos Aires; je ne sais pas s'ils ont ou pas un code-share avec Aerolineas-Argentinas, je vais me renseigner
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
Je serai aussi surement fin aout/septembre dans le sud Argentin et Chilien. Mais je ne sais pas encore si je serai motorisé.
Est il facile d'acheter une voiture en Argentine et de passer les frontières avec ?
Sinon, je compte profiter au cours de cette période des mamifères marins, du Fitz roy, des glaciers. Si il y a quelque chose à ne vraiment pas louper, merci de me l'indiquer.
Je prends également tous bons plans en terme de logements !
Sinon, je compte profiter au cours de cette période des mamifères marins, du Fitz roy, des glaciers. Si il y a quelque chose à ne vraiment pas louper, merci de me l'indiquer.
Je prends également tous bons plans en terme de logements !
Pour le logement a Puerto Madryn, Che Patagonia hostel, 26AR$ nuit avec petit dej prepare avec amour par Maru et Gabi (y a dulce de leche meme!🙂), hostel recent, propre, en face la plage... et Maru et Gabi, jeunes trentenaires, sont adorables. Ils proposent les excursions pour peninsula valdes aussi.
www.chepatagoniahostel.com.ar
https://raconte-moi-l-irlande.com/ - Pour en découvrir toujours plus sur l'Irlande !
bonjour,
J' envisage aussi ce même itinéraire pr le mois de décembre; avez vs obtenu des renseignements surtt sur l' état de la route de façon à savoir si on peut le faire en voiture ordinaire
Jeannine
Absolument faisable en voiture normale, il suffit d'être prudent car on pèche vite par excès d'optimisme sur le ripio. On prend confiance et on roule comme sur du goudron, sauf que la tenue de route est plus proche de la neige ou du verglas sur ces petits graviers bien glissants.
toute la pénisule est en ripio non goudronné mais l'accès est goudronné jusqu'à puerto pyramides.
Hasta luego
ESPACLA
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Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri






