Permis de conduire international pour louer un scooter en Thaïlande?
by RenéeCos
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour.
Pour louer un scooter en thaïlande faut-il un permit de conduire international?
merci
Un loueur ne te le demandera normalement jamais par contre si tu te fais arrêter pour un contrôle
vaut mieux l'avoir.
"
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Un loueur ne te le demandera normalement jamais par contre si tu te fais arrêter pour un contrôle
vaut mieux l'avoir.
A nouveau puisqu'il y a deja eu des posts sur le sujet < le permis international est tolere en Thailande >jusqu'au jour ou ?, ca signifie qu'aucun texte officiel thailandais ne le reconnait formellement et qu'aucun texte international non plus !je conduis comme ca et d'ailleurs on ne me demande jamais de le montrer et aussi incroyable que ca paraisse a 2 reprises des thais en mobylette ont percute ma voiture et on ne m'a rien demande non plus au commissariat lors du rapport de police ! juste de payer mes torts, puisque une voiture a toujours tort sur une mob, velo ou pieton, < et en liquide, sans recu comme de bien entendu > La Thailande n'est pas signataire de la convention internationale de Vienne sur la circulation routiere, cherchez sur google les pays signataires.
A nouveau puisqu'il y a deja eu des posts sur le sujet < le permis international est tolere en Thailande >jusqu'au jour ou ?, ca signifie qu'aucun texte officiel thailandais ne le reconnait formellement et qu'aucun texte international non plus !je conduis comme ca et d'ailleurs on ne me demande jamais de le montrer et aussi incroyable que ca paraisse a 2 reprises des thais en mobylette ont percute ma voiture et on ne m'a rien demande non plus au commissariat lors du rapport de police ! juste de payer mes torts, puisque une voiture a toujours tort sur une mob, velo ou pieton, < et en liquide, sans recu comme de bien entendu > La Thailande n'est pas signataire de la convention internationale de Vienne sur la circulation routiere, cherchez sur google les pays signataires.
La Thailande n'est pas signataire de la convention internationale de Vienne sur la circulation routiere, cherchez sur google les pays signataires.
C'est vrai mais elle est signataire de la convention internationale de Genève sur la circulation routière du 19 septembre 1949 et de ce fait autorise légalement l'utilisation d'un permis de conduire international basé sur cette convention (la principale différence par rapport à celle de 68 étant la durée de validité du permit, 1 an selon la convention de 49, 3 ans pour celle de 68).
Donc, en théorie, toute personne souhaitant conduire un véhicule motorisé en Thaïlande doit être titulaire d'un permis de conduire international basé sur les critères définis par la convention de Genève ou, évidemment, d'un permit de conduire thaïlandais.
En pratique, on est d'accord, c'est différent.
C'est vrai mais elle est signataire de la convention internationale de Genève sur la circulation routière du 19 septembre 1949 et de ce fait autorise légalement l'utilisation d'un permis de conduire international basé sur cette convention (la principale différence par rapport à celle de 68 étant la durée de validité du permit, 1 an selon la convention de 49, 3 ans pour celle de 68).
Donc, en théorie, toute personne souhaitant conduire un véhicule motorisé en Thaïlande doit être titulaire d'un permis de conduire international basé sur les critères définis par la convention de Genève ou, évidemment, d'un permit de conduire thaïlandais.
En pratique, on est d'accord, c'est différent.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Quand tu affirmes il faur mettre le texte ? je ne le trouve pas disant que la Thailande est signataire, mais je trouve
Il n'y a pas réciprocité entre la France et la Thailande, en matière d'équivalence du permis de conduire. Pour les expatriés, il est possible d'obtenir un permis de conduite thailandais valable 1 an. Il faut se rendre au "Land Transportation Department" de Bangkok ou de la province, avec son permis de conduire, son passeport (portant un visa Non-Immigrant, le visa Tourist n'est pas valable), un certificat médical, une adresse certifiée, deux photos d'identité. Il faut assiter a un cours de 2 heures, en thai (a chacun de s'organiser pour la traduction), réussir le test correspondant (en thai), satisfaire au test de couleurs, et a l'examen de conduite. Voir aussi: Motor Vehicles Registration Office - Driving Licence Sub-Division
En l'absence de texte formel je repete qu'il s'agit de tolerance et je ne trouve pas de traduction de texte thai non plus ?
Il n'y a pas réciprocité entre la France et la Thailande, en matière d'équivalence du permis de conduire. Pour les expatriés, il est possible d'obtenir un permis de conduite thailandais valable 1 an. Il faut se rendre au "Land Transportation Department" de Bangkok ou de la province, avec son permis de conduire, son passeport (portant un visa Non-Immigrant, le visa Tourist n'est pas valable), un certificat médical, une adresse certifiée, deux photos d'identité. Il faut assiter a un cours de 2 heures, en thai (a chacun de s'organiser pour la traduction), réussir le test correspondant (en thai), satisfaire au test de couleurs, et a l'examen de conduite. Voir aussi: Motor Vehicles Registration Office - Driving Licence Sub-Division
En l'absence de texte formel je repete qu'il s'agit de tolerance et je ne trouve pas de traduction de texte thai non plus ?
Le problème c'est que ce sont des choses que je sais parce que je les ai apprises. Maintenant si tu veux un texte je veux bien essayer d'en trouver un mais il ne sera probablement pas en français.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Tiens, voilà un lien qui te confirmera ce que j'ai dit: http://www.geocities.com/bkkriders/law/idp.html. Bon c'est pas un site officiel mais à priori il n'y a pas de raison de douter de la véracité du contenu de ce site.
Tu peux aussi voir là: http://www.thaichicago.net/clate/driving.html (la 2ème partie qui parle de la Convention de 49) ou là http://driving.information.in.th/driving-licence.html, les deux premières lignes.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Bien lu Similan, on en revient a ce que je disais :il y a tolerance mais pas de texte
As to the 1968 Convention, Thailand's delegate signed the Convention on 8 November 1968 in Vienna, but the Thai Government hasn't ratified it so far. This is also the case with a dozen other nations including Indonesia, South Korea, Spain and the UK. What this means in the international political arena requires some deliberation but, simply put, Thailand is not a contracting party of the 1968 Convention. Thailand doesn't issue the 1968 International Driving Permit.
The question is, is a 1968 International Driving Permit valid in Thailand? In order for a 1968 International Driving Permit to be valid in Thailand, there must be a specific law in Thailand which validates the 1968 International Driving Permit. So the question is, is there a law in Thailand which validates the 1968 International Driving Permit? As far as I know, there isn't.
The question is, is a 1968 International Driving Permit valid in Thailand? In order for a 1968 International Driving Permit to be valid in Thailand, there must be a specific law in Thailand which validates the 1968 International Driving Permit. So the question is, is there a law in Thailand which validates the 1968 International Driving Permit? As far as I know, there isn't.
Hardi, connais-tu le proverbe "il n'y a pas plus aveugle que celui qui ne veut pas voir"?
Oui, comme tu l'as dit, la convention de Vienne de 68 ne s'applique pas en Thaïlande MAIS celle de Genève si! Donc, ... cf mon premier post!
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
bonjour.
Pour louer un scooter en thaïlande faut-il un permit de conduire international?
merci
Ayant (mal) garé mon scooter à Phuket j'ai vu arriver un policier qui n'a pas voulu les 100 bahts que je lui proposais (c existe !) pour éviter la contravention : j'ai ramené mon permis (français) au commissariat et il m'a été dit que "pour cette fois".... et qu'il fallait le permis thai ou un permis international. Le cout de l'amende fut ramené de 400 a 200 bahts ...
C'est la réalité des faits il y a moins d'un mois. Alors les normes juridiques internationales........
Ayant (mal) garé mon scooter à Phuket j'ai vu arriver un policier qui n'a pas voulu les 100 bahts que je lui proposais (c existe !) pour éviter la contravention : j'ai ramené mon permis (français) au commissariat et il m'a été dit que "pour cette fois".... et qu'il fallait le permis thai ou un permis international. Le cout de l'amende fut ramené de 400 a 200 bahts ...
C'est la réalité des faits il y a moins d'un mois. Alors les normes juridiques internationales........
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je suis dans une echoppe qui donne sur la rue, les scooters defilent, beaucoup de blancs dessus, en short, en slip, a 2 a3, avec les gosses, avec pas dcasque, avec pas de papier, pas de permis.un permisTu as bien lu, ca coute rien> ici cest pas permis<Tu roules a gauche et tu loue ca entre 200 et 300baths par jour.
Salut Renee
Quoi qu'il en soi fait le faire c'est gratuit, comme cà si tu a un doute tu l'aura avec toi
Bon vol et bon voyage
ALAIN
N'es pa béù qu'es béù, es béù so qu'agrada!
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
Donc, en théorie, toute personne souhaitant conduire un véhicule motorisé en Thaïlande doit être titulaire d'un permis de conduire international basé sur les critères définis par la convention de Genève ou, évidemment, d'un permit de conduire thaïlandais.
Bonjour,
Question subsidière: en Thaïlande, a t on le droit de rouler en scooter avec un permis international pour voiture, ou faut-il un permis moto ?
Bonjour,
Question subsidière: en Thaïlande, a t on le droit de rouler en scooter avec un permis international pour voiture, ou faut-il un permis moto ?
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
C'est simple, si ton permis international ne stipule pas que tu es autorisé à conduire un deux-roues, tu n'auras pas le droit de rouler en scooter. Mais ça c'est la théorie. En pratique, si tu te fais arrêter par un policier et que tu lui montre un permis de conduire, qui plus est un international, tu as toutes les chances de pouvoir continuer ta route. Si le policier veut faire du zèle, cela te coutera au maximum 500 bahts.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
au commissariat et il m'a été dit que "pour cette fois"....
Ce qui est marrant c'est que c'est chaque fois pareil! "Pour cette fois ok, mais...", tu reviens qques semaines plus tard et on te redit: "Pour cette fois, ok, mais..."! Ca fait dix ans que je roule à Phuket avec mon permis de conduire Suisse et je n'ai jamais été ennuyé. Je précise quand même que je pourrai l'être et que j'ai également un permis de conduire thaï au cas ou.
Ce qui est marrant c'est que c'est chaque fois pareil! "Pour cette fois ok, mais...", tu reviens qques semaines plus tard et on te redit: "Pour cette fois, ok, mais..."! Ca fait dix ans que je roule à Phuket avec mon permis de conduire Suisse et je n'ai jamais été ennuyé. Je précise quand même que je pourrai l'être et que j'ai également un permis de conduire thaï au cas ou.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Salut Tiburce, je ne sais pas où tu te trouves mais 200 ou 300 bahts par jour pour un scooter c'est exagéré. A Patong, qui n'est de loin pas l'endroit le meilleur marché de Thaïlande, tu loues un scooter automatique pour 150 bahts la journée, parfois moins.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
C'est simple, si ton permis international ne stipule pas que tu es autorisé à conduire un deux-roues, tu n'auras pas le droit de rouler en scooter.
Même si c'est la théorie, et qu'en pratique c'est beaucoup plus souple, en gros, en France je peux conduire une 125 depuis 20 ans ou plus alors qu'en Thaïlande, par exemple, je ne peux même pas conduire une mobylette 😕 Encore un exemple flagrant de l'idiotie de notre administration ! 😠😠
Même si c'est la théorie, et qu'en pratique c'est beaucoup plus souple, en gros, en France je peux conduire une 125 depuis 20 ans ou plus alors qu'en Thaïlande, par exemple, je ne peux même pas conduire une mobylette 😕 Encore un exemple flagrant de l'idiotie de notre administration ! 😠😠
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
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What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!