Piste de Merzouga vers Taouz, Tagounine en cycloVTT
by Cube18
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
à tous bonjour,
Je souhaiterai savoir si la piste qui va de Merzouga vers Taouz, H.Ouzina, Agoult, Zguilma, Tagounite est roulable avec un vtt Chargé..Si vous avez ds infos, si vous l'avez déjà fait , merci de me renseigner...Cordailement..Rv..
Rv.
Bonjour,
Jusqu'à Taouz, c'est une "route"
De Taouz à Ouzina, c'est une piste.
D'Ouzina à Rmelia, c'est du "bien mou"
De Rmelia au lac Maider (Tafraoute) c'est des" passages mou"
Après, c'est de la piste.
Bonne rédemption (!)
Razul
Salut
Va falloir que tu transformes le VTT...😉 Des pneus extra larges, des vitesses longues et courtes...😎 Et une super prépa sportive pour les jambes!!!
Dans l'ensemble tu passeras mieux que certains véhicules. Les passages "sable mou" tu pousseras...🤪...Ou pas?!?!
Bon courage et bon trip!
Va falloir que tu transformes le VTT...😉 Des pneus extra larges, des vitesses longues et courtes...😎 Et une super prépa sportive pour les jambes!!!
Dans l'ensemble tu passeras mieux que certains véhicules. Les passages "sable mou" tu pousseras...🤪...Ou pas?!?!
Bon courage et bon trip!
Cha&Gab
Bonjour,
Comment naviguer à vélo de Merzouga à Zagora: bousole, GPS ..., les pistes de Taouz à Remlia, oasis nomad (m'harch), Tafraout, Tissemoumine sont elles facilement repérables ?
Bonjour
Navigation:
Du "lac" Maidher à Zagora, c'est plein Ouest (avec traces visibles) qques maisons, bref, pas grand risque de se perdre.
D'Ouzina à Tafraout, c'est plus aléatoire avec X options; un Gps "évolué" n'est pas superflu;
Quid avec un vélo ? quel gps ? , quelle cartographie ?, je ne sais pas.....
Accessoirement, c'est bien mou......".poussette" assurée; Mais quand on aime.........
Pour être sérieux:
Avec Google-Earth, tu auras une idée assez précise des distances, en plus beaucoup de "mou". A toi de voir si avec tout le matos, un vélo est pertinent. Perso j'en doute..., mais je ne suis pas un Pénitent........
Enfin, si l'itinéraire était un "spot" pour vélo (Style Parpaillon), tu aurais plein d'infos, alors.............;
Remarques, à Tammanrasset, j'ai vu des mecs qui partaient dans les Tassilis avec des VTT, fin avril en plus !!!......
Bonne réflexion,
razul
Bonsoir,
J'ai consulté google earth et j'ai noté les distances et des points de repère GPS. J'ai vu sur cet itinéraire des photos de Vététistes. Comme j'aime le désert, je pense que la traversée Merzouga/ Zagora est possible à VTT.
Merci pour les infos sur la navigation
J'ai consulté google earth et j'ai noté les distances et des points de repère GPS. J'ai vu sur cet itinéraire des photos de Vététistes. Comme j'aime le désert, je pense que la traversée Merzouga/ Zagora est possible à VTT.
Merci pour les infos sur la navigation
bonsoir,
si tu choisis tes pistes tu peux très bien éviter les passages sablonneux jusqu'à Er Remlia. De Er remlia vers la passe de marech il y a un passage mou ( c'est la traversée de l'oued Rhéris) , tu vas donc être un peu obligé de pousser mais pas très longuement, je dirai environ 200-300 m, ensuite tu retrouves du dur et en cherchant , comme dans la traversée Taouz-Er remlia, les coins plus roulants, tu peux sans problème arriver à Zagora. Le gps est utile pour éviter de trop galérer surtout si tu ne connais pas le secteur.
si tu choisis tes pistes tu peux très bien éviter les passages sablonneux jusqu'à Er Remlia. De Er remlia vers la passe de marech il y a un passage mou ( c'est la traversée de l'oued Rhéris) , tu vas donc être un peu obligé de pousser mais pas très longuement, je dirai environ 200-300 m, ensuite tu retrouves du dur et en cherchant , comme dans la traversée Taouz-Er remlia, les coins plus roulants, tu peux sans problème arriver à Zagora. Le gps est utile pour éviter de trop galérer surtout si tu ne connais pas le secteur.
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Wordmacadam bonsoir,
je répond assez tardivement à ton message qui confirme mon tracé qui ne seras pas facile..
A ce jour , mon circuit est sur le point d'être ficelé et çela devrait passer...
J'ai encore la forme et le vélo sera allégé au maximun au niveau du chargement ; car pas facile et épuisant de pousser un vélo ....trop lourd ...coté tracé et repérage, , je suis au top avec traces et wp sur GPS (2) ..
mon départ est prévu vers début avril si tout va bien...
Merci encore pour les infos et meilleurs voeux à tous !!! et de beaux voyages...Cordialement...Rv
Rv.
bonsoir Razul,
je te remercie un peu tardivement pour tes infos concernant mon projet..
J'ai ficelé mon trajet et cela devrait aller avec une bonne préparation...
Meilleurs voeux et santé à tous ; et de bons voyages à toi...Cordialement..Rv.
Rv.
salut monsieur , je suis un marocain de taroudant , je veux faire un voyage par vélo (depart Foum zguid arrivée Merzouga en passant par boumalne , imilchil et rich), et j'ai vue que tu a fais presque le même circuit , j'ai des questions pour toi si possible.
merci d'avance.
roudani cycliste
Salut j'ai des cartes du Maroc si ça t'intéresse sur mon blog , d'après ce que les utilisateurs m'ont dit elles sont compatibles avec les GPS , je n'ai de GPS alors je ne peux pas te le confirmer , bonne balade 🙂
Sinon quand tu zoomes à fond sur Google Map ça a l'air jouable en VTT mais bon 🤪
Sinon quand tu zoomes à fond sur Google Map ça a l'air jouable en VTT mais bon 🤪
Bonsoir Mohamed,
Je suis passé souvent à Tarroudant, une petite ville sympa..(je vais à l'hôtel Atlas quand j'y passe).
si tu veut des infos pour un circuit, pas de problème;
Si tu veut faire Foum-Zguid, la source sacrée, Tagounite, Zagora, Tissemounine, Er-Remlia, Ouzina, Taouz, Merzouga, Rissani, Alnif, Djebel Saghro, Ikinioun, Boulmane dadès , Agoudal, Imilchil, et plus ....y a pas de problème..
Si tout va bien , je compte faire ce trajet début 2014 , départ de Tanger-Med vers le 15 mars ..
Je devait le faire cette année en avril 2013, mais j'ai eut des problèmes de santé et un manque de Km dans les jambes...
Si tu est tenté, et que tu as la forme pour faire un bout de chemin avec moi, y à pas de problème.....
Cordialement.Hervé......
Rv.
Avec plaisir , monsieur , mois je vais y aller en octobre(mois du congé) , je veux savoir svp , est ce que le temps (octobre) et la durée 15 jrs et convenable pour cette sortie qui débutera de Foum zguid ou bien tazenakht et l'arrivée sera a merzouga , en passant par vallée dades et imilchil , rich ..) 2- est ce que tazarert et montée vers agoudal sont les seul difficultés de ce circuit ???.
Merci d'avance.
Merci d'avance.
roudani cycliste
Bonjour Mohamed,
pour répondre à ta question, 15 jours pour faire ce que tu projette , me semble un peu court pour le faire...Cela te fait environ 1100 Km, si ce n'est pas plus !!!!d'aprés mon calcul...(approximatif)
Il te faudrait d'abord que tu regarde sur la carte Michelin n°742.et que tu étudie mieux les possibilités de préparer ton trajet et surtout de choisir le sens par lequel tu vas aborder les montées ..
De tarroudant >=415 km si tu vas jusqu'a Boulmane Dadès ; faut compter au moins 4 étapes , suivant ton niveau de pédalage et ta préparation...ensuite de Boulmane à environ 35km, t'as une 1er montée <=3km sur une route (en lacets) et après Msemrir une 2ème sur piste pour atteindre plus loin le Tizi-n'Ouano qui est presque à 2898m d'altutude...ensuite , ça descends jusqu'a Agoudal au Km130 ..par une bonne piste (quand j'y suis passé)..
Imilchil est à >=30km et le lac Tislit 4km plus loin.(camping/auberge sur place).
Rich est un sympa petit bled, mais à mon avis vaut mieux descendre par le Todhra, super vue et gorges superbe !! Km 60 Tamtatouchte et 36 de plus pour arriver à Ténerhrir..
Sortie de Ténerhrir à gauche la piste qui vas à Ikinioun >= 82km est plate sauf à la fin , environs 8 à 10 km pour arriver à l'auberge /camping chez Ibrahim Alt=2200m..piste roulable...le côté sud pour descendre vers Nekob, c'est la galère , piste avec beaucoup de trous , cailloux ect....avec un vélo chargé la descente s'effectue au pas afin d'éviter une bonne gamelle..Montée par ce côté est mortel !!!, tu finit en poussant le vélo pendant plusieurs km...
Une fois arrivé à Nekob, tu peu rejoindre à 195 KM Rissani puis à 25Km Merzouga.
Voila en gros le trajet que tu veut faire..
Pour info, si tu ne veut pas monter vers le Tazizert, tu as avant d'arriver à Ikinioun à gauche la piste qui rejoint Alnif..
Je te souhaite un bon voyage , si tu veut + d' infos , n'hésite pas...
Question de la Météo, je ne sais pas, voir sur place, mais je penses que Octobre et un bon mois pour balader à vélo malgré des jours plus court..Cordialement..Rv.
Rv.
merci pour tes reponses , nous somme abituer de pédallé toute la journée 😕 (ça nous suffi pas), et la sortie sans fatigue ca serre à rien , ont va attaquer la tazarerte depuis Nekob , ont devisons l'étape sur 3 (si possible) , je veux aller à Rich pour les gorges ziz car j'ai déjà vue les toudgha , ont veux des difficultés qui resteront dans la mémoire , hhh
roudani cycliste
Bonjour Mohamed,
à 30 ans, la super forme est là !!! Bravo de monter côté sud depuis Nekob...vers le Tazazert ...
Dur dur !!! vers la fin ; mais suffit d'en garder sous la pédale pour y arrivé sans être épuisé...
Je te souhaite un bon voyage à vélo et bonnes pistes..Cordialement..Rv..
Rv.
merci beaucoup , pour votre aide , je te souhaite bonnes pistes à toi aussi ,
roudani cycliste
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A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon
