Départ définitif vers la Nouvelle-Calédonie ou la Polynésie-Française?
by Tigalou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous souhaitons partir dans le cadre d'une mutation en nouvelle calédonie ou en polynésie
d'ici un ou deux ans. Notre but est de rester définitivement en ce lieu en prenant la retraite sur place . Bien que actuellement nous aurions tendance à privilégier un départ pour la NC où il semblerait que le développement économique soit plus important et notamment pour le devenir des enfants (nos deux ainés seront en 1ère voir term), nous sommes inquiets quant aux nouvelles dispositions qui interviendront à partir de 2010 il me semble. Certains d'entre vous pourraient me renseigner sur les pertes d'avantages? Une retraite de fonctionnaire sera t'elle toujours indexées? Quelle sera la position de la france pour les territoires? Y a t il des risques ? ......
Nous sommes en 2008 ! Celui qui te dira qu'en 2010 il y aura ceci ou cela est un illuminé..........Les surrémunérations sont remises en cause par les parlementaires, les sénateurs et maintenant Sarko........et cela tous les ans depuis une petite dizaines d'années........
Mais bon, cela dure depuis 1950...........
Pour info, les retraités de l'état sont la deuxiéme source de revenus de la Polynésie Frse.............
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
😉 merci d'avoir pris la peine de me répondre. Tes conseils sont plutôt encourageant et j'espère qu'ils nous permettront de durer. Il est vrai que prendre une telle décision n'est pas simple d'autant plus qu'elle sera définitive. Même si l'indexation des retraites doit être revue à la baisse, voir identique au taux en métropole, l'envie de devenir résident polynésien ou caledonien sera la plus forte. Le choix devrait logiquement s'imposer par la destination que l'on me fixera (le choix doit porter sur l'ensemble des domtom avec une possibilité de graduer nos préférences). Néanmoins je pense pouvoir obtenir un TOM ayant déjà séjourné aux antilles donc je m'interesse particulièrement à la vie en océanie. Tous les conseils sont bons à prendre.
Merci encore de ton soutien.
...Même si l'indexation des retraites doit être revue à la baisse, voir identique au taux en métropole...
Bonjour,
A taux identique à la métropole, sans indexation, ça va être dur. Pour info :
Mensuel Calédonien, Votre Economie de Mars 2008.
Dossier : Le Casse-tête du Pouvoir d'achat. Titre : Pris au Piège des Prix.
Caddie Métro : 12 792 (cfp) Caddie local : 18 333 (cfp)
= +30, 22 % ( + 5 541 frs CFP ou 46.21 € )
Pour les produits maraîchers frais et frais : + 66% le kg d'oignons jaunes, + 40% le kg de pommes de terre, + 75% les 4 tranches de jambon supérieure.
Différence sur un mois à raison de 3 courses : 15 000 cfp A l'année : 180 000 cfp ou un SMG et demi...
Salutations.
Bonjour,
A taux identique à la métropole, sans indexation, ça va être dur. Pour info :
Mensuel Calédonien, Votre Economie de Mars 2008.
Dossier : Le Casse-tête du Pouvoir d'achat. Titre : Pris au Piège des Prix.
Caddie Métro : 12 792 (cfp) Caddie local : 18 333 (cfp)
= +30, 22 % ( + 5 541 frs CFP ou 46.21 € )
Pour les produits maraîchers frais et frais : + 66% le kg d'oignons jaunes, + 40% le kg de pommes de terre, + 75% les 4 tranches de jambon supérieure.
Différence sur un mois à raison de 3 courses : 15 000 cfp A l'année : 180 000 cfp ou un SMG et demi...
Salutations.
iaorana,
je suis tout à fait de l'avis de bobcat. Qui peut dire qu'elle sera l'avenir de l'indexation à l'horizon 2010 Jusqu'à maintenant, elle a perduré, car ce n'était que des députés qui tous les ans la remettait sur le tapis, au jourd'hui, c'est l'hyper actif de l'Elysée qui la met sur le tapis avec force indignation, comme si le déficit de la France ne relevait que de cette "anomalie". Incroyable!! Enfin, il nous faudra subir si tel était le cas, mais pour ma part, ce n'est pas ça qui me fera quitter le fenua. Mais pour vous qui avez si j'ai bien lu des enfants encore scolarisés prévoyez leurs études. Les université de PF et de NC n'assurent pas tous les cursus.
Fa'itoito (courage) et wait and see
je suis tout à fait de l'avis de bobcat. Qui peut dire qu'elle sera l'avenir de l'indexation à l'horizon 2010 Jusqu'à maintenant, elle a perduré, car ce n'était que des députés qui tous les ans la remettait sur le tapis, au jourd'hui, c'est l'hyper actif de l'Elysée qui la met sur le tapis avec force indignation, comme si le déficit de la France ne relevait que de cette "anomalie". Incroyable!! Enfin, il nous faudra subir si tel était le cas, mais pour ma part, ce n'est pas ça qui me fera quitter le fenua. Mais pour vous qui avez si j'ai bien lu des enfants encore scolarisés prévoyez leurs études. Les université de PF et de NC n'assurent pas tous les cursus.
Fa'itoito (courage) et wait and see
Salut
Si on se pose trop de questions, on avance pas ( vite ?), malgré qu'il soit légitime de s'en poser un minimum à propos de 2010. Je penserais plutot à 2014-2018 pour une éventuelle "consultation du peuple". De toute façon, et aux risques de me répéter, ce serait du 1 tier-2 tiers, donc peux de chance d'aboutir à une indépendance, par contre des "troubles" seraient tjrs possibles, qui feraient que.....
Concernant les retraites, je ne sais si " ils " toucheront à l'indexation des gens déjà installés sur le caillou, si celle-ci devait etre supprimée. Quoiqu'il en soit sachez que quelques calédoniens ( une association a vue le jour me semble t-il ) commencent à raler de voir arriver des retraités avec leurs pensions indexées, il faut le savoir, donc il vaut mieux ne pas trop s'en vanter sur place !! Mais ce sera peine perdue, dans les petits bleds, tout ce sait 😠 Le calédonien, comme tout bon Français d'ailleur ( je précise que ce n'est pas une spécialité calédonienne, mais plutot humaine ) jalouse le voisin qui a certains avantages auxquels il n'a pas droit. Qu'on ne me dise pas le contraire, sinon je donne les exemples...😏😏 !!
Pour le reste je suis tt à fait d'accord avec Toukoul. J'affirme que la retraite sur le caillou, c'est pas forcément le meilleur choix, et je RizGaulle bien quand j'entends les Français se plaindre de la chereté de vie en France: EXEMPLE : le kilo de salade à Néa à 7 ou 8 euros, les tomates, c'est kif kif, les endives n'en parlons même pas. Les fruits sont de 2 à 4 fois + élevé au kilo, les produits laitiers vous les oublierez ( les 4 yahourts aux fruits doivent etre à 3, 8 euros ( 450 cfp) Le vin, à prix égal avec celui que vous buvez tous les jours en france, vous avez une piquette infame et bouchonnée de surcroit. ( a consommer avec modération, de toute façon !) Le whisky de base ( à consommer avec modération, dit-il !) tous à 20 euros. Le Rhum de bonne qualité ( à consommer avec modération, également ) c'est 30 Euros, vous trouvez les même ici à partir de 9 EUROS ( et comme aurait dit Coluche : j'ai les noms !!) l'eau minérale locale à 1 EURO la bouteille, et le chocolat, et la tête....mais là je me répète, alou..
En bref, toute la panoplie du parfait retraité ( et j'ai oublié le pastis ) est 20 à 30 % plus chere sur le caillou qu'en france. Alors laissez moi 😏😏 C'est du concret, du vécu!!
Bonne journée à tous Maiki
Si on se pose trop de questions, on avance pas ( vite ?), malgré qu'il soit légitime de s'en poser un minimum à propos de 2010. Je penserais plutot à 2014-2018 pour une éventuelle "consultation du peuple". De toute façon, et aux risques de me répéter, ce serait du 1 tier-2 tiers, donc peux de chance d'aboutir à une indépendance, par contre des "troubles" seraient tjrs possibles, qui feraient que.....
Concernant les retraites, je ne sais si " ils " toucheront à l'indexation des gens déjà installés sur le caillou, si celle-ci devait etre supprimée. Quoiqu'il en soit sachez que quelques calédoniens ( une association a vue le jour me semble t-il ) commencent à raler de voir arriver des retraités avec leurs pensions indexées, il faut le savoir, donc il vaut mieux ne pas trop s'en vanter sur place !! Mais ce sera peine perdue, dans les petits bleds, tout ce sait 😠 Le calédonien, comme tout bon Français d'ailleur ( je précise que ce n'est pas une spécialité calédonienne, mais plutot humaine ) jalouse le voisin qui a certains avantages auxquels il n'a pas droit. Qu'on ne me dise pas le contraire, sinon je donne les exemples...😏😏 !!
Pour le reste je suis tt à fait d'accord avec Toukoul. J'affirme que la retraite sur le caillou, c'est pas forcément le meilleur choix, et je RizGaulle bien quand j'entends les Français se plaindre de la chereté de vie en France: EXEMPLE : le kilo de salade à Néa à 7 ou 8 euros, les tomates, c'est kif kif, les endives n'en parlons même pas. Les fruits sont de 2 à 4 fois + élevé au kilo, les produits laitiers vous les oublierez ( les 4 yahourts aux fruits doivent etre à 3, 8 euros ( 450 cfp) Le vin, à prix égal avec celui que vous buvez tous les jours en france, vous avez une piquette infame et bouchonnée de surcroit. ( a consommer avec modération, de toute façon !) Le whisky de base ( à consommer avec modération, dit-il !) tous à 20 euros. Le Rhum de bonne qualité ( à consommer avec modération, également ) c'est 30 Euros, vous trouvez les même ici à partir de 9 EUROS ( et comme aurait dit Coluche : j'ai les noms !!) l'eau minérale locale à 1 EURO la bouteille, et le chocolat, et la tête....mais là je me répète, alou..
En bref, toute la panoplie du parfait retraité ( et j'ai oublié le pastis ) est 20 à 30 % plus chere sur le caillou qu'en france. Alors laissez moi 😏😏 C'est du concret, du vécu!!
Bonne journée à tous Maiki
Merci pour vos bons renseignements, ils sont précieux.
Pour le suivi scolaire des enfants ils s orienteront vers des bacs S STG ou commercial avec orientation à l'issue vers les finances ou le commerce, ce qui, selon les renseignements pris ne poserait pas de problème.
Concernant les prix pratiqués votre unanimité me laisse penser que je devrai partir, non pas avec un stock de nourriture ou alcool, mais avec une canne à pêche, une bêche, et je ne boirai que du rhum (tant mieux j'adore ça)....
Vous qui vivez sur place comment vivez vous l'insularité? Des croisières sont elles possibles à partir de nouméa ou tahiti et vers quelles destinations?
PS: Meme si ces questions vous paraissent naïve elle nous permettent de nous situer sur les possibilités à long terme sachant que l'avion n'est pas toujours conseillé pour certains états de santé en ce qui nous concerne. Neanmoins il y a toujours moyen de vivre ses passions, il faut seulement trouver la bonne façon d'y aboutir.
merci encore🙂
Néanmoins je pense pouvoir obtenir un TOM ayant déjà séjourné aux antilles
la polynesie n'est ni un dom ni un tom, mais un pom (pays d'outre mer) et il n'y a pas les memes services sociaux qu'en metropole,
la polynesie n'est ni un dom ni un tom, mais un pom (pays d'outre mer) et il n'y a pas les memes services sociaux qu'en metropole,
Ya juste une méprise, je suis à Paris depuis 14 mois maintenant, donc le prix du rhum à 9 eur c'est à Paris.
Bien entendu encore une fois je parle de boisson de qualité ( agricole pr le rhum ) sinon vs pourrez trouver du rhum à 12 ou 15 euros, enfin je veux dire qu'il y a marqué " Rhum " sur l'étiquette, après on ne sait pas trop ce que l'on boit...
Pour les croisieres, cela doit etre possible, car des paquebots viennent ( du moins venaient ) régulierement à Néa, venant de l'Australie en général et il me semble qu'un circuit Nelle Calédonie avec relache ds les + belles baies du caillou ainsi qu'à l'ile des pins, Ouvéa, Vanuatu, Australie etc...
A partir de Néa, Sydney c'est 2h30, Brisbane idem, la nelle Zealand pas beaucoup plus loin en avion, donc rien d'insurmontable quelque soit l'age. Singapoure à 6h30 de Sydney et le Viet Nam pas très loin de Singap les bains. Ce sont là des destinations que vous devez envisager sous peine de tourner en rond sur le caillou.
Bonne journée
Bien entendu encore une fois je parle de boisson de qualité ( agricole pr le rhum ) sinon vs pourrez trouver du rhum à 12 ou 15 euros, enfin je veux dire qu'il y a marqué " Rhum " sur l'étiquette, après on ne sait pas trop ce que l'on boit...
Pour les croisieres, cela doit etre possible, car des paquebots viennent ( du moins venaient ) régulierement à Néa, venant de l'Australie en général et il me semble qu'un circuit Nelle Calédonie avec relache ds les + belles baies du caillou ainsi qu'à l'ile des pins, Ouvéa, Vanuatu, Australie etc...
A partir de Néa, Sydney c'est 2h30, Brisbane idem, la nelle Zealand pas beaucoup plus loin en avion, donc rien d'insurmontable quelque soit l'age. Singapoure à 6h30 de Sydney et le Viet Nam pas très loin de Singap les bains. Ce sont là des destinations que vous devez envisager sous peine de tourner en rond sur le caillou.
Bonne journée
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I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
I'm looking for an au pair who'd like to come to Bournemouth in the south of England, and I'd love to know what the best websites are to find one, please.
Hi everyone,
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Hi,
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^




