Salut,
Je viens de m'inscrire à voyage forum et ne suis pas un pro de ce moyen de communication, mais espère le devenir... En fait nous nous sommes inscrits à un safari au Botswana (sous tente) en bivouac. Et après avoir lu quelques une de vos expériences j'aimerai savoir quels sont les risques réels du camping au sol. Avez vous des conseils ou anecdotes à ce sujet ?
Nous partons en juillet prochain, le 15 plus exactement pour une durée de 15 jours. Nous devons visiter le PN de CHOBE - SAVUTI - MOREMI - le Delta de l'OKAVANGO - le désert du KALAHARI (MKGADIKGADI PANS) - KASANE pour finir par les Chutes VICTORIA. Christine et moi sommes fascinés par vos récits et aussi par ceux et celles qui partent seuls sans accompagnement. En ce qui nous concerne, étant limités par la durée des vacances d'été - travail oblige. Nous devons nous contenter de voyages plus conventionnels. De plus cette année nous partons en famille et j'ai convaincu ma mère mon frangin ainsi que ma filleule de venir avec nous (ils n'en sont pas à leur première expérience!) mais voudraient savoir si quelqu'un connaît "Nomade" car c'est l'organisateur de notre prochain voyage...
D'avance merci pour vos suggestions - conseils...
Tout étant bon à prendre!!!
Bjr,
je ne peux t'aider pour le bostwana, mais on a fait du bivouac en tanzanie 15 jrs et cela reste un fabuleux souvenir.Svt, douche, toilette très rudimentaires, on prenait une bassine pour se laver.Les animaux la nuit tournaient autour de la tente, c'était extraordinaire de les entendre!
Karine
😉 Merci pour ta réponse, cela rassurera un peu les autres membres du voyage certains commençaient à baliser à cause des bestioles qui rampent, piques.... Pas frocément les plus grosses. En effet l'idée de la proximité des animaux nous exite... Quand aux toilettes nous ferons avec, je pense que le coté sauvage compensera sans problème ces petits inconvénients.
il suffit de bien fermer sa tente à chaque fois.
On y a été avec nos 3 jeunes enfants, aucune crainte.Par contre, la nuit, impossible de sortir pour la pause petit-coin!🤪 et aucune nourriture dans la tente.
Salut Chrisalain,
Alors je vais te rassurer sur deux points ! Au Botswana dans les campings( qui sont aménagés), les douches et toilettes sont là. Faudra simplement bien ranger la nourriture dans les containers et les poubelles aussi ( mais le guide y veillera )pour éviter les visites nocturnes des chacals..
Dans le delta, c'est un peu différent, certains endroits sont vraiment sauvages pour le camping et les animaux sont très proches.
Et l'autre point, les bébêtes qui piquent et qui rampent, vous n'en verrez pas sur votre parcours.
A part ça, c'est super, sauf peut -être le Kalahari qui peut décevoir par rapport à l'idée que l'on s'en fait.
Bon voyage !
En fait je brûle de partir, en ce moment je suis en congé, et je dispose d'un peu de temps pour visiter le site de VoyageForum, que je trouve vraiment génial.
C'est vraiment super de pouvoir discuter avec des gens qui partagent le même centre d'intérêt.
😉 Coucou, une recrue du forum
je pars avec alain au mois de juillet, j'aimerai connaître des impressions sur le désert du kalahari plus précisément vers makgadikgadi pans car il paraît que les paysages sont un peu décevants? ahh oui j'allais oublier, au faire un "safari" dans le delta de l'okavango en mokoro pendant un jour et demi permet-il d'apercevoir beaucoup d'animaux ?? Des oiseaux des antilopes ?
je pense que les plus intéressant seront savuti et chobe
savuti est près de la rivière chobe il y a des toilettes qui ressemblent fort
à un bunker pour éviter que les éléphants s'en prennent à
leur aise avec les robinets
généralement c'est calme mais pas toujours
de temps en temps un troupeau d'éléphants traverse le camping la nuit
une fois dans le noi un éléphant butte sur une ficelle de tente
surpris il recule et s'assoiet sur le capot d'un toy !
l'alarme se met en fonction et voilà une 15 aine d'éléphants courant dans le camping
dans tous les sens......
Petit guide pour la photo en voyage... en cours de rédaction..
Quand un sage me montre du doigt la lune, moi je m'en tape je continue de rêver aux étoiles.
😕 Salut,
J'ai bien pris note pour les éléphants, nous nous tiendrons loin des robinets, et puis nous prendrons les casques coloniaux.......
En fait au plus ça va au plus nous nous languissons de partir.
Tous ce que nous avons pu lire jusqu'à présent nous attire. En Effet le Parc de Chobé (avec tous ces éléphants...) a l'air très interessant...
Et encore merci pour la réponse.
Salut chrisalain,
Je rentre de ce voyage particulierement sauvage, les points fort sont moremi, car nuit en brousses "out of africa" les hyenes, les babouins, les hippos tournent autour des tentes la nuit, c'est une epreuve pour les "troulliards" et cela reste dangereux pour tous, les safaris a moremi sont difficillent et il est pas sur de voir des fauves, a moins que, au cours de la nuit le lion s'invite autour du feux, et la ! tous aux tentes sans précipitations...... !!!!!!
Pour chobé, seul les safaris en bateau sont interessants, attention aux crocos !!! un touriste temeraire s'est fait croquer.... il y a egalement des manbas noir et des cobras, nous en avons tué un de 2.50m, un autre manbas a tourné autour de ma tente la nuit, ils cherche la chaleur, alors bien fermer les tentes la nuit, et bien regarder ou l'on met les pieds au cours du pipi, la nuit.
Victoria falls, merveilleux!!! pas mal de choses a faire, la montée des gorges en jet est superbe, livingstone pas terrible!!! mais attention pas de marche a pied entre la ville et les chutes, les bushmens agressent les touristes pour les dévalisser. il ya un village a coté des chutes qu'il faut visiter c'est sympa.
Voila, a part cela c'est déja pas mal, le kalahari et les les pans du mkgadikgadi c'est pas terrible!!!!
C'est mon commentaire, j'ai fait beaucoup de safari en afrique, namibie, kenya tansanie, mais pour un premier safari c'est un peu raid, surtout le camping !!!
Bon voyage a tous, en etant prudent, il n'y aura pas de problemes, et au retour on peu se vanter d'etre un peu "tarzan", difficille quand meme de voyager seul .... pour ma part je ne suis pas candidat....
ce voyage, etait organisé sur place par kiboko aventures avec transport en camion .
Salut Jambobuana, et merci pour ton récit.
Alors il est possible de sortir de la tente la nuit ? Je pensais que non à cause du risque de se trouver nez à nez avec une hyène. J’ai lu qu’elles venaient chercher les reliefs des repas lorsque le feu de camp était éteint. D’ailleurs à ce sujet ce que nous redoutons le plus est la « tourista » si nous ne pouvons aller aux toilettes la nuit, il est en effet difficile de maîtriser ce genre d’envie. La plus part du temps nous serons en bivouac, et non en camping. En fait les cinq premiers jours, nous serons dans le Parc de CHOBE nord puis CHOBE sud – SAVUTI – rivière KWAI en bivouac. Ensuite MOREMI –MAUN –DELTA DE L’OKAVANGO pour deux nuits en camping, et une en bivouac sur les berges de l’OKAVANGO. Après désert du KALAHARI – MAKGADIKGADI PANS encore une nuit de bivouac. Puis KASANE avec une nuit dans un camping près du fleuve CHOBE, après quoi nous finissons avec deux jours aux chutes VICTORIA avec deux nuits en Lodge (il est probable qu’on appréciera de dormir dans une vraie chambre sur de bons matelas….)
En fait ce n’est pas notre premier safari, car l’an dernier, en juillet nous étions au KENYA pour une version beaucoup plus luxe – en fait nous étions tous les soirs dans des Loges, tous plus beau les uns que les autres. Mais en réalité ce que nous avions préféré c’était les deux dernières nuits dans le Massaï Mara au « Mara Fig Tree Camp » un camp superbe installé sur les bords de la rivière Talek affluent de la Mara River. Pourtant notre premier contact en arrivant à notre tente était un magnifique spécimen de maba noir – drôle d’accueil non ? Et puis les bruits des scènes de chasse la nuit… La proximité des animaux…. C’est un peu ce qui à motivé notre choix pour la destination du BOTSWANA en juillet prochain. Aussi pur découvrir un autre coté de l'AFRIQUE - Cest un continent vraiment merveilleux.
Nous partons avec « NOMADE », ce sera la première fois, mais il paraît qu’ils sont bien ???
il y a deux choses à prendre en compte dans le camping en afrique
c'est de surestimer le danger
et de sous estimer le danger
les animaux n'attaquent pas, sauf s'ils sont surpris ou coincés
il vaut donc mieux éviter de sortir de la tente la nuit
mais si on sort autant avoir repéreer les lieux la veille
et le faire plutôt bruyament que discrètement
Petit guide pour la photo en voyage... en cours de rédaction..
Quand un sage me montre du doigt la lune, moi je m'en tape je continue de rêver aux étoiles.
OK et merci,
Est-il vrai qu'il ne faut pas éclairer de lumière à l'intérieur de la tente? Car j'ai lu que les fauves avaient tendance à prendre les tentes pour des constructions en dur... et que la lumière leur permettrai de considérer la fragilité de l'édifice. Pour ma part je ne comprends pas trop car il me semble qu’une hyène, lion… ont un odorat développé et qu’ils doivent bien sentir notre présence à travers la toile.
😕
En fait, le Kalahari est très vaste. le nord en effet n'est pas très palpitant et ne ressemble pas vraiment à un désert.
Par contre sa partie du sud au nord de l'Afrique du sud est très belle : ondulations de dunes oranges, végétation vert tendre (c'était en février et il avait beaucoup plu!), la couleur orange des dunes se reflète dans la base des cumulus . On avait vu plein de lions (à les toucher!!! mais on n'a pas essayé) avec des petits. sinon: gnous, antilopes, outardes, zèbres, suricate, un guépard aussi. Ni girafes, ni éléphant.
bref, il y a Kalahari et Kalahari...
Marie
Oui, bien sûr ...Mais je parlais de la partie que j'ai vue, entre Nata et Maun, et là c'est pas super. MAIS, c'est là que j'ai vu pour la deuxième fois de ma vie, des lycaons, cinq, traverser tranquillement la route et nous regarder pendant des minutes entières..! Grand moment !🙂
Rebonjour Alain,
Merci de ta reponse, je vois que tu n'est pas completement novice en la matiere, et que les info arrivent a la pelle concernant le botswana, alors acuna matata!!! le kalahari n'est pas super entre joburg et maun par contre comme l'explique la demoiselle, il est vraiment superbe coté namibie, j'ai fait cette partie avec un 4x4 de loc, et je pense que la namibie est le plus beau pays d'afrique australe autant par les paysages que par les endemies, qu'elles soient vegetales ou animales, pour les humains les"himbas" du kaokoland c'est super, mais a l'epoque ou j'etais sur place il y avait difficultés pour s'y rendre causses guerre avec l'angola.
Mais le bostwana, c'est tres sauvage, les écosystemes y sont differrents, et il ne faut pas comparer avec le kenya ou la tanzanie, les safaris sont plus sauvage et un peu moins parc ou reserve, cela n'est pas mal non plus, le paysage n'est pas aussi varié.
Pour ma part je ne me lasse pas de parcourir ces pays, et je vous souhaitent de les apprécier chacun pour ce qu'ils sont.
Bon voyage a toute la famille, et un petit matelas autogonflable en plus pour la maman ne sera pas du luxe
Amicalement,
😛 Juste de passage sur le net le temps de me rendre compte de tous vos messages. Ce soir nous avons du monde à dîner. Aussi je serai bref. Politesse olblige....
Encore un grand merci à tous. Je suis vraiment touché par votre sympatie.A plus pour de nouveaux échanges.
Amicalement.
Alain.
Nous sommes partis au Botswana en famille il y a deux ans avec Nomade. Voyage super, apparemment la copie conforme de ce que vous allez faire. Nous étions cinq et avions demandé un voyage exclusif (pas d'autres personnes). En fait Nomade sous traite à une agence locale et j'espère pour vous qu'ils ont gardé la même agence : Endeavour safaris.
Vous trouverez sur Internet un récit en photos de notre voyage : http://voyage-botswana.over-blog.com/
Par rapport à votre voyage : je pense et j'espère que vous serez en camps HATAB dans les réserves : ce sont des campings exclusifs, beaucoup plus propres que les campings publics. En plus vous vous retrouvez seuls dans la nuit africaine tous les soirs. Frissons garantis, nuits blanches assurées mais nous avons adoré : les lions et les hyènes visitent le camp la nuit, les éléphants mangent les branches au dessus de vos têtes. Difficile d'aller faire pipi la nuit. Au niveau serpent et scorpions, pas de problèmes car il fait trop froid, on voit des serpents mais ils sont un peu endormis.
Notre seule vraie frayeur a été un jour avec des hippos sur le delta, mais les décharges d'adrénaline ont été bien sur plus nombreuses
La présence d'un guide est un plus : nous avons délaissé les attroupements de sudafricains qui voyageaient en convois et se précipitaient dès qu'ils voient une voiture arrêtée. Nous avons été dans des endroits un peu plus isolés en sortant des sentiers battus et avons pu ainsi observer des lions des après midi entières sans personne autout de nous.
Attention aux températures : il y a deux ans au mois de Juillet, il y a eu une période de quinze jours où il faisait 0°C le matin. En Aout, nous avions 5°C. Prévoir des polaires et des duvets bien chauds. Sinon dans la journée il fait entre 25 et 30 °C donc pas de problèmes
Mkadikgadi Pans : pas terrible, mais c'est une halte obligée sur la route entre Moremi et Kasane (sinon l'étape est longue sur une route toute droite avec une limitation à 80 km/h où, oui ! nous avons été arrêté pour excès de vitesse). En fait les pans sont désertés en cette saison car il n'y a plus d'eau. Ce serait intéressant de les visiter et d'entrer franchement dans les pans mais je pense que votre programme ne le permet pas.
Si vous souhaitez plus de renseignements, vous pourrez trouver notre adresse email sur le blog référencé ci dessus.
Nous y retournerons en Octobre 2007, en nous concentrant sur Moremi et Savuti.
J'ai déjà répondu mais voudrais rajouter un détail : nous avions comme antipalu de la savarine et nous avons eu comme effet secondaire des problèmes intestinaux : dur, dur la nuit. Je peux témoigner qu'on peut sortir de sa tente la nuit mais c'est très peu agréable... L'année suivante à Mada nous avons pris Malarone : c'est plus cher, mais c'est parfait. Dans tous les cas, éviter le Lariam (notre agence de voyages nous avait raconté qu'ils avaient des rapatriements chaque année de clients sous Lariam - les bouffées délirantes sont peu compatibles avec les nuits au milieu des lions)
Merci beaucoup pour ces conseils.
Ne tennez pas compte du la question que je vous ai envoyer par mail (adresse prise sur votre blog)
Nous vous souhatons aussi un bon voyage pour 2007. Et ceux qui précèderons.
Alain
Je suis dans les préparatifs d'un périple au Botswana pour le mois d'Octobre 2025 Je suis dans le prolongement d'un voyage en Namibie réalisé en Janvier 2025.…
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy