J'ai le projet de partir cet été pour 1 mois en Asie du sud-est, au Cambodge et au Laos. 4 semaines donc.
Je commence tout juste à y réfléchir et me pose des questions sur le trajet.
Arrivée à Bangkok puis train jusqu'au Laos, redescendre jusqu'au Cambodge avant de reprendre l'avion à Bangkok, ou le contraire : Bangkok-Cambodge-remonter le Laos jusqu'à Luang Prabang et retour en train vers Bangkok.
Je ne sais pas encore comment organiser mon voyage, peut-être 2 semaines chacun. Il faut que je potasse mes guides pour avoir une meilleure idée mais vos avis et/ou conseils me seraient sans doute utiles !
Pour l'avoir fait, passe par le laos.
Bangkok - Vientiane - Luang Prabang - ViangVieng ? - La plaine des jarres (phonsavan) - la Zone Naturelle Protégée phu khao khuay - Pakse, chutes de Tad Fan et différentes cascades aux alentours - Champassak (temples) - Plateau des Boloven - Les 4000 îles -
frontière lao-thai.
Kratié - Phnom Penh - Siam Rèap (temples et Tonlè Sap) - frontière thai-cambodgienne (ya le seul casino de la zone côté khmer, car c'est interdit en Thailande ^^) - Bangkok
Tu peux faire un détour à Battambang voir Sihanoukville mais tu ne ratera pas forcément quelque chose si tu n'y vas pas.
S'il ne te reste que quelques secondes à vivre, prend simplement le temps d'ouvrir les yeux...
Silvestik
Je n'ai encore rien fixé et suis à l'écoute de toutes vos suggestions mais j'envisage de prendre un vol Bkk-Luang Prabang puis descendre le Laos puis le Cambodge, comme Rogerbarthas le conseillait.
Malheureusment j'ai appris aujourd'hui que la région des 4000 îles serait engloutie à cette époque là, et que je ne la verrai donc pas.
Je pars également cet été (mi-aout mi-septembre) seulement au Laos, quant tu parles de la région de 4000îles englouties, tu penses que ça ne vaut même pas la peine d'y aller?
T'as lu ça dans un bouquin ou sur un forum?
Je mettais déjà les treks dans le nord entre parenthèses à cause des conditions climatiques, donc à priori cette région à mettre aussi en suspend? 😕
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
Ecoute je ne suis encore jamais allée au Laos, donc je ne peux pas t'en dire plus. Par contre je suis allée hier me renseigner auprès de Voyageurs du monde et c'est que que la personne qui s'occupe du Laos et du Cambodge m'a dit. Je la crois. En effet, pendant la mousson pas étonnant que le Mékong recouvre tout !
Mais elle ne me déconseillait pas du tout d'y aller, au contraire. A part le nord, impraticable, il reste plein d'autre choses à voir.
Rassurez vous, les îles ne sont pas englouties en AOUT !🙂 Quelle drôle d'idée !D'ailleurs le mekong est au plus en octobre-NOv ...et les îles ne sont toujours pas englouties, du moins les principales cad celles où il y a des habitations. Pour les bancs de sable c'est une autre histoire...A part que l'année du tigre soit très méchante! LOL
Tu imagines bien que cette idée, je ne l'ai pas inventée moi même, n'étant jamais allée là-bas... Par contre je m'interroge sur la pertinence des "spécialistes" de Voyageurs du monde...😕
Je pense que les agences de voyage se doivent de donner les pires conditions possibles, afin d'éviter les spécialistes mécontents au retour du voyage (ben oui, la météo ça se prévoit! :p )
J'avais contacté "Vision du monde" histoire de connaitre leurs itinéraires pour me donner une première idée sur le Laos, et ils m'ont carrément avertis qu'ils ne faisaient aucun voyage en aout et septembre car le Laos serait impraticable!!
Je n'enlève donc pas cette partie des 4000 îles de mon itinéraire, qui de toute façon sera en partie improvisé sur place.
Laisla: pour ce qui est du sens du parcours, j'avoue que je le ferai plutôt du nord au sud. On m'avait dit dans un message qu'il était plus simple de descendre le Mékong que de le remonter (si tu envisages une partie en bateau). Après, je n'y suis pas encore allée non plus! 🙂
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
Salut Laisla
je me suis posé la meme question il y a 2ans ... et j ai choisi de partir par le nord de la Thailande puis Laos pour finir par le cambodge pour 3 raisons (non essentielles mais qui étaient les miennes) : 1) Finir par qq jours au bord de la mer 2) pb de visa + facile à obtenir au passage à la frontière Laos-cambodge et descente du Mékong en bateau (et comme l'ont dit certains faire le nord plus "humide" avant. Ceci dit, je n ai jamais été géné dans mes déplacements n ayant pas été au nord-nord du laos. Je vous conseille d'aller de BKK au nord Thailande en train (visiter Chang Mai ++) puis aller a chang Rai et traverser la frontiere (Houessai) Visa au passage SANS PASSER par quelque intermediaire. Je suis ensuite descendu en bateau jusqu à LPB en 2 jours ... C'est un peu long. A refaire je ferai une boucle en bus dans le nord laos (Louang Namtha et Boten à la frontière chinoise puis oudom sai et je ne reprendrai le bateau qu a mi-parcours à Pakbeng). 2 jours entiers le c. sur une planche dans un bateau surchargé c'est un peu long.
LuangPraBang, c'est le mieux du Laos avec les 4000 iles. Tu peux meme faire une excursion (2/3 jours vers Pakmong et Nong Khiaw.
Ensuite route vers le sud via la plaine des jarres, puis vang vieng et enfin Vientiane... où il n y a rien à voir et à faire!
Descente en bus jusqu a Pakse. Bonne base pour visiter le plateau des bolovens : les chutes de tad fan, saravanne et surtout le site de tad Lo.
Et enfin les 4000iles : en aout je les ai faites en vélo (pas en pédalo!!!) Le calme, le plaisir, les paysages . TOUT . Difficile d en repartir!
Passage de la frontière dans une forêt (on se serait cru dans un camp de la 2ème guerre) Route directe vers Phnom Penh.
Vu la configuration du cambodge les choix d itinéraires sont nombreux : le sud, l'est , le nord ... une seule certitude : phnon penh et angkor. Possibilité d aller de Siem Reap à Battambang en bus ou en bateau par le lac Tonle sap (très interessant au départ et à l'arrivée mais très long voire peu sécurisant). Battambang-Pailin par la route afin de rejoindre la cote thailande et l ile de ? (je ne me rappelle plus). Belle fin de sejour au bord de la mer. Retour en bus a BKK
Je dois pouvoir retrouver des adresses si besoin mais "celui qui cherche trouve"
a +, dans l attente d y retourner pour faire le nord laos, vietnam et sud chine
gégé😏
Je viens aussi de lire ton message, c'est un grand périple que tu as fait, tu es partie combien de temps pour faire tout ça ?
Pour revenir sur ton passage au Cambodge, tu as fait quoi exactement comme trajet? De quel endroit tu es parti du Laos, pour arriver à Phnom Penh apparement?
Finalement pour une virée à Angkor (au risque de faire râler "rogerbarthas" un adepte du Cambodge qui prône le fait que les touristes ne font que survoler le pays et qu'il a bien raison 😉 ), je me demande si le plus simple ne serait pas de faire un aller-retour depuis Bangkok à la fin du voyage, non?
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
En effet mon coeur a beaucoup balancé entre le Laos et le Cambodge, et puis s'est penché un peu plus du côté laotien (pour cette année 😉 )
Cependant je n'arrive pas totalement à décrocher d'Angkor et voudrais aussi en profiter le plus tôt, j'ai un peu peur de l'explosion touristique dans ces pays là.
Comme tu dis, le problème c'est la mousson. Tu parles même de sérieux problème, qu'entends tu par là? Pour moi la saison des pluies en Asie du sud-est (en tous cas au Laos), c'est plus synonyme de grosse pluie courte et quotidienne, que les grosses inondations qu'on peut voir dans certains pays. Quand est-il du Cambodge alors?
J'ai supprimé le nord-nord du Laos et les treks dans cette région là, voilà pourquoi je commence à repenser à la région de Siem Reap.
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
salut Pepito
salut Fleuf...
On a mis près de 5 semaines car on a attendu qq jours a BKK un copain de Belgique et on y a passé qq jours à la fin.
La seule réserve de la météo est que l on n a pas pu aller faire du trek dans le nord laos sinon les routes etaient praticables.
Il y a certainement d'autres bons coins au Laos mais malgré la durée de notre périple nous n avons pas pu découvrir tous les endroits que l'on aurait voulu. Nous avons squeezé toute la partie de Vientiane à Paksé (trajet soi disant "direct" en bus mais avec arrêt et changement en cours de route sans connaitre l heure du redépart. Mais c'est ça l'intérêt de ce type de découverte. On a rencontré une australienne qui a ensuite passé 8 jours avec nous et des canadiens qui ont également partagé qq aventures ... et j ai même connu un (super)collègue de travail d'une ville voisinne. C'est cà la vie.
Au Cambodge nous ne sommes pas descendus dans le sud. On devait s'arreter a Kratie au départ ...mais on en est reparti aussitôt. D'autres y ont peut être passé des moments inoubliables. Il n'y a pas de vérité. On reçoit bien souvent que ce que l'on donne.
QQ jours à Phnom penh (très sympa). trajet en bus pour angkor (on a hésité avec le bateau) avec arrêt en cours de route.
3 jours de visite en tuktuk (mais je le referai en velo, au moins une journée, c'est tellement plein de sensations). Ne pas oublier les maisons flottantes ...
J ai retrouvé le nom de l ile (Ko Chang) sur la cote de la thailande, près du cambodge ou j ai pris qq jours de repos en fin de sejour.
a + pour de nouvelles aventures...
Qui veut m accompagner dans un périple nord laos, vietnam et sud chine
Gege😏😄🤪😎😉
Le problème est dés l'instant ou tu quittes le bitume, le goudron.Déjà tu as sucré les treks, mais dis toi que tu vas sucrer ce qui pour moi est le véritable charme de ces pays, les pistes, les villages hors routes. Le vélo impossible, en peu de temps les gardes boues ont fait leur office et la roue ne tourne plus...
Mais bon, il y aura de belles couleurs vertes.Les urbains aiment bien cette période. dans l'idéal, il faudrait que tu puisses changer tes dates...pas tjs possible. Hélas!!!
Je suis en partie d accord avec rogerbarthas, mais en partie seulement. Je ne fais pas la différence entre le Cambodge OU le Laos mais entre le nord-nord et le reste .
On peut faire en été la thailande (tel que je l ai fait), le Laos jusqu a hauteur de Luangparabang et le cambodge, ce qui exclut naturellement les treks du nord. Comme on n a jamais le temps (ou les moyens) de tout faire (et puis est ce le but?) je pense qu'il faut distinguer ces 2 expéditions : Cambodge-laos (sud et milieu)-nord thailande et découverte du nord laos, nord vietnam et sud chine ...
Comme je recherche des coequipiers pour ces treks au nord en oct-nov... 2010 je vous conseille (egoistement) de repousser à une autre fois le sud et de m accompagner a l automne prochain. Ouaf, ouaf...
Par contre j ai fait bcp de velo, de marche a pied dans la campagne en été sans avoir les garde boues envasés...
Mais peut etre ai je eu de la chance, comme dab ...! le surnom qu on m a donné est : barakagérard
gege
Oui c'est clair qu'en quittant les grands axes, la circulation doit être plus difficile. Mais on va dire que je suis une mi-urbaine, alors déjà me retrouver dans un pays où je vais voir des grands champs, des cascades (avec beaucoup d'eau donc!) et des rizières vertes, je serais super heureuse !!
Et puis mes vacances sont assez courtes finalement, alors je ne pourrais pas de toute façon quitter vraiment les grands axes, à moins de me cantonner à une seule région. Mais dans ce cas là, j'ai peur aussi de rester à un seul endroit et que c'est pile là où il va tomber un déluge pendant 10 jours et rester cloisonner dans une chambre de guesthouse. 🤪
Pour ce qui est de changer les dates... en effet pas trop le choix. On a déjà décalé pour finir mi-septembre histoire d'avoir des prix d'avion plus abordables, mais on ne peut pas plus. Au moins ça sera vert le pays!! 😉
De toute façon l'Asie j'adore (enfin pour le minuscule bout que je connais), les gens, le calme, la nourriture... alors j'y retournerai, à d'autres saisons, et pour voir les pays plus en profondeur !!
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
Ah je n'avais pas vu ta réponse dans le forum avant de répondre à ton MP, désolée !Au moins tu me "rassures" sur le fait que faire le nord-nord du Laos en période des pluies, c'est pas le top. Ok ça doit bien se faire et tout dépend des conditions climatiques du moment où on part, mais c'est quand même pas la région la plus facile à faire. Je me la garde donc pour plus tard.
Pour ce qui est de la faire en automne cette année, je ne suis pas contre, mais c'est mon employeur qui va tirer la gueule !! 😛
Et puis je connais déjà le nord de la Thaïlande pour y avoir fait des treks formidables, alors ça sera pour une prochaine fois (je partage ton avis sur Chiang Mai, certes assez touristique, mais tellement à faire et à voir aux alentours !)
Quand tu parles des maisons flottantes au Cambodge, c'est autour de Siem Reap?
Pour la partie Vientiane - Paksé, je pense aussi la squizer pour ce premier voyage. On va dire que j'aime bien voir l'ensemble d'un pays (j'ai la bougotte) avant de me concentrer sur une seule région. Tu as mis combien de temps au final pour faire ça en bus?
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
Je ne fais pas la différence entre le Cambodge OU le Laos mais entre le nord-nord et le reste .
Oui, moi non plus je ne fais pas de différences dans la généralité .
Je parlai juste du désir ou pas d'un séjour balnéaire
Si ce désir existe, il vaut mieux commencer par le Cambodge, car MI-Aout est en général moins pluvieux que MI-Septembre.
On peut faire en été la thailande (tel que je l ai fait), le Laos jusqu a hauteur de Luangparabang et le cambodge, ce qui exclut naturellement les treks du nord. Comme on n a jamais le temps (ou les moyens) de tout faire (et puis est ce le but?) je pense qu'il faut distinguer ces 2 expéditions : Cambodge-laos (sud et milieu)-nord thailande et découverte du nord laos, nord vietnam et sud chine ...
Comme je recherche des coequipiers pour ces treks au nord en oct-nov... 2010 je vous conseille (egoistement) de repousser à une autre fois le sud et de m accompagner a l automne prochain. Ouaf, ouaf...
Par contre j ai fait bcp de velo, de marche a pied dans la campagne en été sans avoir les garde boues envasés...
Tu parles en été - moi je te parle à partir de la mi Aout - plutôt fin aout d'ailleurs (dans la plaine centrale du cambodge)!
A cette période, c'est là ou les conditions de voyage sont les plus favorables.
MI-Aout est en général moins pluvieux que MI-Septembre.
Dis donc tu arrives à bien distinguer les saisons...
Sachant que je n'ai aucune envie balnéaire pour cet été en Asie, que conseilles tu finalement, pour l'itinéraire du début de ce sujet: partir du Cambodge (uniquement Siem Reap pour ma part) et remonter jusqu'à Luang Prabang, ou l'inverse?
Ou peut importe peut-être?
Pour me rendre au Cambodge, j'hésite encore de faire un aller-retour depuis Bangkok tout simplement, ou de faire une boucle en passant la frontière depuis le Laos, se rendre à Siem Reap, et retour à Bangkok.
Ce n’est pas l’homme qui fait le voyage mais le voyage qui fait l’homme
Ne rêve pas ta vie, mais vis tes rêves
elle est taquine cette Fleuf mon cher Bartabas. Elle va te faire tourner en bourrique!
Donc t as bien compris Fleu : tu commences par le nord (Laos) et tu nous envoies régulièrement des cartes postales afin que l on puisse te suivre et vérifier...
Une raison de plus de commencer par le Laos(s'il y en avait besoin!!!) : s'il fait beau tu te fais plaisir en decouvrant le nord-nord en trek et tu oublies Angkor au retour (ou bien tu raccourcis), s'il fait mauvais, tu restes sur LPB et tu redescends rapidement dans le sud et tu passes plus de temps au cambodge (Angkor +...)
Pour répondre à une autre question : Il y a une liaison directe en bus ente Pakse et Siam Reap (avec arret possible aux 4000iles, à ne pas manquer) avant de poursuivre ta route retour vers BKK. C est donc inutile de faire un A/R BKK/angkor
a bientot pour de nouvelles aventures
gege
Tu oublies que je mets en garde sur ton premier Fil (post, message)
Les raisons :1- Finir par la mer ...
Tu oublies que ton voyage tu l'as fait un mois avant ... Fin aout , les profs , ils sont toujours au boulot , non ? D'ailleurs tu réponds pas à ma question sur tes dates ... Au fond, tu étais peut être en dispo, et tua s fait le voyage fin octobre et tu as retrouvé la mer, mi novembre.
Donc pour ceux qui partent mi AOUT et qui veulent un peu de mer faire le trajet dans l'autre sens est évident pour ceux qui connaissent !
Je passe sur les autres raisons (c'est très dur de faire un visa Laos à PNh) et ne retient que la personnelle !
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Merci de vos retours
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Martine
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Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!