Je suis à la recherche d'endroits qui feraient des étapes agréables entre Ushuaïa et Buenos Aires; pour cette longue remontée terrestre, je dispose d'environ deux semaines. Avez-vous des coins sympas à me conseiller pour couper la route? La Péninsule de Valdès par exemple: est -elle intéressante en mars pour l'observation de la faune (je ne crois pas, mais, bon...)? Sinon, est-ce un endroit agréable pour lui-même ou seules les baleines en font l'intérêt? D'autres lieux sur la côte ? Merci pour vos suggestions!
Que voir et faire sur la côte argentine?
by Kelessuf
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Bonjour!
Je suis à la recherche d'endroits qui feraient des étapes agréables entre Ushuaïa et Buenos Aires; pour cette longue remontée terrestre, je dispose d'environ deux semaines. Avez-vous des coins sympas à me conseiller pour couper la route? La Péninsule de Valdès par exemple: est -elle intéressante en mars pour l'observation de la faune (je ne crois pas, mais, bon...)? Sinon, est-ce un endroit agréable pour lui-même ou seules les baleines en font l'intérêt? D'autres lieux sur la côte ? Merci pour vos suggestions!
Je suis à la recherche d'endroits qui feraient des étapes agréables entre Ushuaïa et Buenos Aires; pour cette longue remontée terrestre, je dispose d'environ deux semaines. Avez-vous des coins sympas à me conseiller pour couper la route? La Péninsule de Valdès par exemple: est -elle intéressante en mars pour l'observation de la faune (je ne crois pas, mais, bon...)? Sinon, est-ce un endroit agréable pour lui-même ou seules les baleines en font l'intérêt? D'autres lieux sur la côte ? Merci pour vos suggestions!
Il y a différentes étapes où l'on peut s'arrêter entre Buenos Aires et Ushuaïa. Pour la peninsule de Valdès vous ne verez pas de baleines car elles viennent entre septembre et décembre😕désolé...mais il y a des otaries, éléphants de mer, une multitude d'oiseaux marins, dont des manchots. Les côtes rocheuses, les falaises, la mer rendent l'endroit magnifique! Trelew est une ville fondée par des gallois, elle est donc riche de cette culture et se situe tout près de la peninsule de Valdès. Bien plus au nord Mar del Plata est une importante station balnéaire, plutôt agréable: grandes plages, cabanas traditionnelles, casinos, nombreux restaurants.
Bonjour!
Merci Risso83 pour votre réponse (+ celle des taons).
La Péninsule de Valdès sera donc une étape de quelques jours 🙂: je pensais bien que ce n'était pas la période des baleines, mais j'avais l'impression, confirmée par vos propos, que les paysages étaient sublimes. Par contre, Mar del Plata ne me semble pas vraiment indiqué (cela dit, je peux me tromper!) : en regardant une carte, je crois que pour rejoindre BA depuis Puerto Madryn, le plus "rapide" (ou du moins le plus "court") serait de quitter la côte à Bahia Blanca pour traverser La Pampa ( est-ce l'itinéraire des bus?). A voir, donc.
La Péninsule de Valdès se trouvant quand même à une quarantaine d'heures de bus d'Ushuaïa 🤪🤪et à une bonne vingtaine d'heures de BA 🤪, je dois trouver d'autres points de chute pour couper le trajet... Rio Gallegos (12 h d'Usuhaïa)? Comodoro Rivadavia? Puis, au nord, Viedma / Carmen de Patagones? Bahia Blanca? Il y a peu d'infos sur la côte argentine 🙁(sans doute parce que la plupart des gens font le trajet BA - Terre de Feu en avion ou passent par les Andes) et je dois avouer que là, franchement, je "sèche". Autre question, liée: en Argentine, quelle est la durée - type supportable en bus? Ça me donnerait une idée du nombre de "stops" à faire: 5h, 8h, 12h, 24h? Merci et bonne journée!
La Péninsule de Valdès sera donc une étape de quelques jours 🙂: je pensais bien que ce n'était pas la période des baleines, mais j'avais l'impression, confirmée par vos propos, que les paysages étaient sublimes. Par contre, Mar del Plata ne me semble pas vraiment indiqué (cela dit, je peux me tromper!) : en regardant une carte, je crois que pour rejoindre BA depuis Puerto Madryn, le plus "rapide" (ou du moins le plus "court") serait de quitter la côte à Bahia Blanca pour traverser La Pampa ( est-ce l'itinéraire des bus?). A voir, donc.
La Péninsule de Valdès se trouvant quand même à une quarantaine d'heures de bus d'Ushuaïa 🤪🤪et à une bonne vingtaine d'heures de BA 🤪, je dois trouver d'autres points de chute pour couper le trajet... Rio Gallegos (12 h d'Usuhaïa)? Comodoro Rivadavia? Puis, au nord, Viedma / Carmen de Patagones? Bahia Blanca? Il y a peu d'infos sur la côte argentine 🙁(sans doute parce que la plupart des gens font le trajet BA - Terre de Feu en avion ou passent par les Andes) et je dois avouer que là, franchement, je "sèche". Autre question, liée: en Argentine, quelle est la durée - type supportable en bus? Ça me donnerait une idée du nombre de "stops" à faire: 5h, 8h, 12h, 24h? Merci et bonne journée!
Helo!
Ben par exemple Valdés c sur que l interet majeur c est d observer la faune, mais le coin reste sympa. Un peu plus au sud de Valdés c moins touristique et tt aussi joli et fréquenté par les animaux. Sur la page info pays de ce site tu vas surement trouver des infos, je sais qu il y a pas mal de fotos aussi.
www.argentina-excepcion.com
ciaooo
cam
Ben par exemple Valdés c sur que l interet majeur c est d observer la faune, mais le coin reste sympa. Un peu plus au sud de Valdés c moins touristique et tt aussi joli et fréquenté par les animaux. Sur la page info pays de ce site tu vas surement trouver des infos, je sais qu il y a pas mal de fotos aussi.
www.argentina-excepcion.com
ciaooo
cam
Bonsoir..
Je t'invite à jeter un oeil (puis l'autre) sur la partie terrestre de www.hylas.ws et plus particulièrement sur la page ARGENTINE
http://www.hylas.ws/Terrestre/Recits/ARGENTINE/Argentine_FR.htm
Les ''Bosque Petrificado de Jaramillo'' sont à voir : c vraiment tip top et ''PUERTO DESEADO'' est un bonheur de nature
Bôôôô voyage
Je t'invite à jeter un oeil (puis l'autre) sur la partie terrestre de www.hylas.ws et plus particulièrement sur la page ARGENTINE
http://www.hylas.ws/Terrestre/Recits/ARGENTINE/Argentine_FR.htm
Les ''Bosque Petrificado de Jaramillo'' sont à voir : c vraiment tip top et ''PUERTO DESEADO'' est un bonheur de nature
Bôôôô voyage
www.hylas.ws
""POURQUOI VOYAGEZ-VOUS ?
POUR TROUVER CEUX QUI SAVENT ENCORE VIVRE EN PAIX""
merci Camille et Skargo pour vos réponses et les liens qui les accompagnent.
Puerto Deseado correspond bien à ce que je cherchais (à mi-chemin entre Rio Gallegos et Valdès). Et une étape de plus, une!🙂
Par contre, le Bosque Petrificado de Jaramillo (eh, Skargo, c'est à l'ouest, pas à l'est de Puerto Deseado😛), ça fera un gros détour.
Bon, Skargo, j'ai vu ton itinéraire et ça colle avec le mien pour la partie Buenos Aires- Terre de Feu (moi, c'est dans l'autre sens, et en bus). En combien de temps as-tu fait ce trajet? Et pour tes étapes, y en a-t-il que tu déconseillerais (genre "si j'avais su, j'aurais pas venu"), d'autres (en-dehors de Puerto Deseado et Valdès) que tu conseillerais vivement? Merci!
Nos escales principales seront : BAHIA BLANCA - LAS GRUTAS - PENINSULE de VALDES et Puerto MADRYN - CALETA OLIVIA - PUERTO DESEADO - PUERTO SAN JULIAN - RIO GRANDE et enfin la TIERRA DEL FUEGO ...
Bon, Skargo, j'ai vu ton itinéraire et ça colle avec le mien pour la partie Buenos Aires- Terre de Feu (moi, c'est dans l'autre sens, et en bus). En combien de temps as-tu fait ce trajet? Et pour tes étapes, y en a-t-il que tu déconseillerais (genre "si j'avais su, j'aurais pas venu"), d'autres (en-dehors de Puerto Deseado et Valdès) que tu conseillerais vivement? Merci!
Nos escales principales seront : BAHIA BLANCA - LAS GRUTAS - PENINSULE de VALDES et Puerto MADRYN - CALETA OLIVIA - PUERTO DESEADO - PUERTO SAN JULIAN - RIO GRANDE et enfin la TIERRA DEL FUEGO ...
OLA KelEssuf...
L'Est ? L'ouest ? Tout est relatif et tout dépend de l'endroit E où on est au moment M.. Tout dépend si on se dirige vers la Patagonie.. ou si on en revient
Pour répondre précisement à ta question, au niveau de la notion de temps.. difficile de te répondre car pour nous, la notion de temps est quasi absente.. puisqu'on avait tout notre temps. Toutefois, si tu détailles notre carnet de bord http://www.hylas.ws/Terrestre/Recits/Pays/Carnet_bord_Argen_Chili05_06.htm tu pourras faire tes petits calculs...
Quant aux trucs qu'on a aimé, cela aussi, c'est très relatif car chacun a ses gouts.. mais par exemple, l'ECOMUSEE de Puerto Madryn, pour moi, c bof, comme Valdès d'ailleurs (sauf les baleines qu'on a pas vu car arrivés trop tard). Par contre, la nature de Puerto Deseado, c top.. et USHUAIA... c'est bof aussi.. A voir le Musée de la Mer ou de ces coquillages, à Mar del Plata : fabuleux et à ne pas manquer : le PERITO MORENO, FRITZ ROY, LA CUEVA DE LAS MANOS (on a aimé) A ne pas louper, surtout, le NORD ou NOA de l'Argentine.. un délice andin
Toute l'Argentine est un bonheur.. et si tu aimes le vin, passe par MENDOZA et par BARILOCHE pour les chocolats..
Désolée pour le long délai de réponse, mais j'étais en voyage
@pluche Cordialement
PS et hors sujet : tu as zappé les dunes MERZOUGA (dommage) que j'adore et où j'allais souvent, à une époque de ma vie.. ou dans une autre vie
L'Est ? L'ouest ? Tout est relatif et tout dépend de l'endroit E où on est au moment M.. Tout dépend si on se dirige vers la Patagonie.. ou si on en revient
Pour répondre précisement à ta question, au niveau de la notion de temps.. difficile de te répondre car pour nous, la notion de temps est quasi absente.. puisqu'on avait tout notre temps. Toutefois, si tu détailles notre carnet de bord http://www.hylas.ws/Terrestre/Recits/Pays/Carnet_bord_Argen_Chili05_06.htm tu pourras faire tes petits calculs...
Quant aux trucs qu'on a aimé, cela aussi, c'est très relatif car chacun a ses gouts.. mais par exemple, l'ECOMUSEE de Puerto Madryn, pour moi, c bof, comme Valdès d'ailleurs (sauf les baleines qu'on a pas vu car arrivés trop tard). Par contre, la nature de Puerto Deseado, c top.. et USHUAIA... c'est bof aussi.. A voir le Musée de la Mer ou de ces coquillages, à Mar del Plata : fabuleux et à ne pas manquer : le PERITO MORENO, FRITZ ROY, LA CUEVA DE LAS MANOS (on a aimé) A ne pas louper, surtout, le NORD ou NOA de l'Argentine.. un délice andin
Toute l'Argentine est un bonheur.. et si tu aimes le vin, passe par MENDOZA et par BARILOCHE pour les chocolats..
Désolée pour le long délai de réponse, mais j'étais en voyage
@pluche Cordialement
PS et hors sujet : tu as zappé les dunes MERZOUGA (dommage) que j'adore et où j'allais souvent, à une époque de ma vie.. ou dans une autre vie
www.hylas.ws
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Salut!
Pour remonter en bus, au mois de mars et en deux semaines de Ushuaia jusqu'à Buenos Aires et bien sans hésiter je le fais en longeant les Andes! A moins que vous ne connaissiez déjà? Parce que les étapes le long de la côte...vous verrez par vous mêmes si vous le faites. Je suis d'accord avec les Skargo: le monumento nacional del bosque petrificado est ha-llu-ci-nant et Deseado...n'en parlons pas, mais à condition de disposer d'un véhicule dans les deux cas.
En revanche au-dessus...il y a quelques (nombreux) kilomètres dont on se passerait et des étapes aussi! ( genre Comodoro...) Lorsque je lis : en dessous de Valdes c'est joli aussi...j'ai un peu envie de rire même si je me doute que le "au dessous" en question ne doit pas être beaucoup plus bas que Punta Tumbo et que le "joli" du lieu tient beaucoup aux délicieux pinguinos...Non, vraiment, joli n'est pas le qualificatif approprié! Sauvage, désertique´abandonné, effrayant, lassant, impressionnant, tout ce que vous voulez mais pas joli.
Je peux vous garantir que, si vous y allez, vous n'allez pas trainer vos guêtres longtemps dans le coin et n'aurez pas besoin de 15 jours.
Tandis que la remontée en longeant les Andes, surtout à cette période, est sensationnelle et permet de supers étapes ( il n'y a en fait que le passage El Chalten-Bajo Caracoles qui est un peu rude puis Perito Moreno-Tecka).
( Ah, juste une précision, les baleines n'arrivent pas à Valdes en septembre mais dès la mi-mai...)
blondin
bonjour Marc!
Bon, la côte argentine n'a pas l'air de faire l'unanimité! En fait, je cherche à gagner BA au plus court (ou plutôt au plus rapide); les Andes, j'en viendrai (2 mois et demi au départ de Santiago pour arriver à Ushuaïa); j'avais donc pensé passer plus à l'est pour la remontée, histoire de varier les plaisirs, tout en sachant que ce sera peut-être un peu monotone. Si deux semaines c'est trop... tant mieux! J'aurai plus de temps ailleurs!
En tous cas, merci pour ce point de vue!
A bientôt!
Il y a 2 villes et un pueblo que je ne te recommande pas : Puerto Santa Cruz, 2 de tension, seule attraction ecouter l'ocean et aller taper la conversation a la station service seul lieu ouvert et pas de bus tous les jours pour en repartir ...😕
Rio Gallegos ... la ville ou j'ai quasi regrette que mon sac ne soit pas plus lourd tellement le vent etait violent ... rien a y voir de plus mais ville etape tout comme Comodoro qui ne presente pas d'interet a mon sens. Enfin sache que les 3 villes sont hors de prix point de vu hotel car "villes etapes" et les hoteliers le savent bien ¡
Ensuite c'est question de gout, mais en mars c'est encore la pleine saison et gaffe a la semaine sainte ou tout est pris d'assaut ¡
Ensuite c'est question de gout, mais en mars c'est encore la pleine saison et gaffe a la semaine sainte ou tout est pris d'assaut ¡
Pas très encourageant ni enthousiasmant, tout ça 😕...
Je pensais que ces étendues monotones auraient quelques adeptes quand même, des amoureux de la lenteur et de l'ennui (c'est bien tout ça, de temps en temps, en voyage).
Donc, mieux vaudrait prendre, s'il y en a, des bus confortables et de nuit, pour "tracer" (au moins certaines portions) et faire quelques petits détours (comme la forêt pétrifiée et Valdès) en y séjournant quelques jours pour récupérer du trajet?
Salut!
Séjourner au Bosque Petrificado, oublie-le! c'est en plein milieu du désert...
Ce que tu peux faire, c'est séjourner 3 jours à Puerto Deseado et contracter sur place des activités: remonter la ria en zodiac et visiter les réserves d'oiseaux, visiter les miradores (à 100 bornes déjà!) et enfin le bosque petrificado.
Le problème c'est que tous ces coins ne sont pas sur la route 3; on a l'impression comme ca mais en réalité il y a toujours 80 kms par-ci, 60 kms par-là ou plus...
D'accord avec sch, Rio Gallegos...!!! J'y ai passé 3 jours l'an dernier (obligé) si j'avais pu éviter...
blondin
Bonjour,
moi j'ai beaucoup aime puerto san julian, ou nous avons fait une ballade en bateau pour voir les pingoins et les dauphins.
Il y a un circuit cotier qui doit faire une 20 aime de km ou tu as une belle vue sur la cote.
cecile
moi j'ai beaucoup aime puerto san julian, ou nous avons fait une ballade en bateau pour voir les pingoins et les dauphins.
Il y a un circuit cotier qui doit faire une 20 aime de km ou tu as une belle vue sur la cote.
cecile
mes carnets de voyages (Nicaragua, Argentine, Thailande, Pérou-Bolivie) : http://www.passiflorae.fr/Voyages/ .
Un site sur les Passiflores : http://www.passiflorae.fr
Slt!
Je te recommende ce site web : www.argentina-excepcion.com Les rubriques infos-pays et circuits pourront te filer pas mal de pti renseignements sur les meilleurs endroit de la còte argentine. Voila j espere que ça t aidera un peu!
bye
Cam
Je te recommende ce site web : www.argentina-excepcion.com Les rubriques infos-pays et circuits pourront te filer pas mal de pti renseignements sur les meilleurs endroit de la còte argentine. Voila j espere que ça t aidera un peu!
bye
Cam
A Puerto San Julian, l'hotel municipal qui est aussi celui de l'Automovil Club Argentino est très bien; j'y ai couché plusieurs fois.
blondin
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Hi everyone! So happy to be back on this forum—it’s packed with such useful info! 🙂 My husband and I are planning a 2.5-week self-drive trip to Colombia at the end of the year, including some domestic flights. My first question is: is it possible, easy, and safe to do a road trip in Colombia?
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri





