si je peux donner des renseignements aux membres du forum, ce sera avec plaisir...😏😏😏
Rentré du Vietnam: donne renseignements
by Cristaline
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je viens de faire un tour organisé (jet tours) au vietnam😎
si je peux donner des renseignements aux membres du forum, ce sera avec plaisir...😏😏😏
si je peux donner des renseignements aux membres du forum, ce sera avec plaisir...😏😏😏
as-tu ressenti le sentiment "d'agressivité" de la part de la population, le sentiment d'être considérée comme un portefeuille sur patte de manière plutôt insistante ?
c'est un thème qui revient très souvent ici...
Merci
c'est un thème qui revient très souvent ici...
Merci
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
agressivite, pas vraiment...
insistance, peut-etre ; quand ils te sentent interressé par quelque chose, il ne te lachent pas...
mais cette situation, je l'ai rencontré dans d'autres pays...
tu regardes le lot de cartes postales du petit vendeur, simplement pour admirer les photos, et ce dernier te suit partout pour que tu lui achetes le lot de 10 CP...
et comme tu as revelé ton interet, tous les petits vendeurs te suivent pour te vendre autre chose...
mais tu ne dois pas te facher, ou elever la voix (tu perd la face pour un vietnamien), alors tu dis "non", et ils se lassent pour passer à un autre touriste...
pour ce qui concerne le portefeuille sur patte, c'est vrai que notre niveau de vie n'est rien en comparaison du leur, et le prix de la nuit à l'hotel est quelque fois équivalent à leur salaire mensuel, alors on peut suciter "l'envie"...
"le prix de la nuit à l'hotel est quelque fois équivalent à leur salaire mensuel"
Effectivement, vu le contraste entre notre budget voyages et l'importance du tourisme pour un pays comme le vietnam, il est peut être plus judicieux de voyager routard dans des petits hotels ou GH tenus par des locaux plutôt que d'engraisser JET TOURS ou autres TO avec 30% de commission.
Les TO te logent le plus souvent dans des chaines de multinationales qui reversent des dividendes à leurs actionnaires. Au global le petit vietnamien qui te croise dans son pays ne profitera que très peu de ton passage....
Séb.
Effectivement, vu le contraste entre notre budget voyages et l'importance du tourisme pour un pays comme le vietnam, il est peut être plus judicieux de voyager routard dans des petits hotels ou GH tenus par des locaux plutôt que d'engraisser JET TOURS ou autres TO avec 30% de commission.
Les TO te logent le plus souvent dans des chaines de multinationales qui reversent des dividendes à leurs actionnaires. Au global le petit vietnamien qui te croise dans son pays ne profitera que très peu de ton passage....
Séb.
Les TO te logent le plus souvent dans des chaines de multinationales qui reversent des dividendes à leurs actionnaires. Au global le petit vietnamien qui te croise dans son pays ne profitera que très peu de ton passage....
Tiens, la LCR a ouvert une filiale sur VF...😏
je vois pas le rapport entre se loger dans des hotels confortables et les grand méchants bouhhh tours operators....
Je pense que tu confonds tout... enfin bon, passons...🤪
Tiens, la LCR a ouvert une filiale sur VF...😏
je vois pas le rapport entre se loger dans des hotels confortables et les grand méchants bouhhh tours operators....
Je pense que tu confonds tout... enfin bon, passons...🤪
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Bonsoir,
Nous partons mon ami et moi au Vietnam le 20 janvier, et nous aimerions savoir si la taxe de sortie du vietnam existe toujours et si oui, à combien elle s'élève.
Merci pour ce renseignement.
Bonne année.
Michelle et Daniel
Nous partons mon ami et moi au Vietnam le 20 janvier, et nous aimerions savoir si la taxe de sortie du vietnam existe toujours et si oui, à combien elle s'élève.
Merci pour ce renseignement.
Bonne année.
Michelle et Daniel
non, je n'ai pas payé de taxe de sortie
mais comme je l'ai dit dans mon 1er message, je suis partie avec un tour operator (jet tours), et cette taxe était peut etre comprise dans le prix du voyage...
bon voyage !
mais comme je l'ai dit dans mon 1er message, je suis partie avec un tour operator (jet tours), et cette taxe était peut etre comprise dans le prix du voyage...
bon voyage !
Entierement d'accord ! "ils" mettent generalement les clients dans des grands bazars a $50 alors qu'on est merveillement acceuillis dans des ptes guesthouses sympas a $10. Et je ne parle pas des restaux ! A Angkor, j'ai assiste au retour des bus a midi pour aller manger de la cuisine lambda ds un restau climatise de Siem Reap, pendant que moi, je me regalais d'une soupe delicieuse a une pte table dehors avec Angkor Wat en face; il est vrai que 30% d'une soupe...Vaut mieux enfermer les clients ! Et bien sur, je ne parle pas de "Moi petites routes pas connaitre " !
Bon, il faut de tout pour faire un monde, et tout le monde n'a pas une mentalite d'aventurier Routard. Ce que je reproche le plus aux TO, c'est que, en plus de s'engraisser, ils engraissent surtout les riches qui ont construit les hotels et les grands restaux de groupes, et que le menu peuple ne voit rien passer a part le prix de ventes des souvenirs et les fameuses bouteilles d'eau (pour lesquels ce genre de clients negocient generalement a mort pour payer 1000 dong de moins, soit 38 centimes euro 🏴☠️ ). Certains diront "ca cree des emplois"; c'est vrai, mais s'ils savaient combien est payee une bonne d'hotel ou une serveuse de restau (sans compter les horaires; j'ai une amie viet qui fait tout le boulot de receptionniste/reservations d'excursions : 10h/jour pendant 6 jours et demie et aucune vacances sauf 4 jours pour le Tet !). Et tout est a l'avenant: a Tam Coc par ex. le bateau coute 60 000 dong/pers + disons 20% min. donc le clt paie en realite au moins 72 000; les rameuses st payees 40 000 pour 3h AR de boulot epuisant; ca fait 1, 50 euro, et certains touristes gueulent parce qu'elles essaient de vendre la seule chose qui leur rapporte un peu plus, leurs superbes broderies a la main (car, en plus de ramer tte la journee, eles brodent la nuit 😕 ) et refilent -pas tous- 1000 dong de pourboire en pensant etre genereux.
Ceci dit, un grand merci a notre VF pour proposer de renseigner les lecteurs que ca intrerresse; ce n'est pas tous les jours que les visteurs propsent cela sur le Forum !
Bon, il faut de tout pour faire un monde, et tout le monde n'a pas une mentalite d'aventurier Routard. Ce que je reproche le plus aux TO, c'est que, en plus de s'engraisser, ils engraissent surtout les riches qui ont construit les hotels et les grands restaux de groupes, et que le menu peuple ne voit rien passer a part le prix de ventes des souvenirs et les fameuses bouteilles d'eau (pour lesquels ce genre de clients negocient generalement a mort pour payer 1000 dong de moins, soit 38 centimes euro 🏴☠️ ). Certains diront "ca cree des emplois"; c'est vrai, mais s'ils savaient combien est payee une bonne d'hotel ou une serveuse de restau (sans compter les horaires; j'ai une amie viet qui fait tout le boulot de receptionniste/reservations d'excursions : 10h/jour pendant 6 jours et demie et aucune vacances sauf 4 jours pour le Tet !). Et tout est a l'avenant: a Tam Coc par ex. le bateau coute 60 000 dong/pers + disons 20% min. donc le clt paie en realite au moins 72 000; les rameuses st payees 40 000 pour 3h AR de boulot epuisant; ca fait 1, 50 euro, et certains touristes gueulent parce qu'elles essaient de vendre la seule chose qui leur rapporte un peu plus, leurs superbes broderies a la main (car, en plus de ramer tte la journee, eles brodent la nuit 😕 ) et refilent -pas tous- 1000 dong de pourboire en pensant etre genereux.
Ceci dit, un grand merci a notre VF pour proposer de renseigner les lecteurs que ca intrerresse; ce n'est pas tous les jours que les visteurs propsent cela sur le Forum !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Pourquoi toujours cracher sur les gros hotels?
Certains hotels font de tres belles choses. Accor a tres bien conserve le metropole et egalement le palace a dalat ou la residence a hue. Ce sont de tres beaux endroits. Voyager en guest house est tres bien egalement. Mais parfois les gens aiment se faire de petits plaisirs. Ca ne veut pas dire que tous les gens qui vont dans des hotels a 50 $ ou plus la chambre vont pas se melanger a la population ou ne vont pas dormir dans des ethnies apres... Il faut une demi mesure...
Certains hotels font de tres belles choses. Accor a tres bien conserve le metropole et egalement le palace a dalat ou la residence a hue. Ce sont de tres beaux endroits. Voyager en guest house est tres bien egalement. Mais parfois les gens aiment se faire de petits plaisirs. Ca ne veut pas dire que tous les gens qui vont dans des hotels a 50 $ ou plus la chambre vont pas se melanger a la population ou ne vont pas dormir dans des ethnies apres... Il faut une demi mesure...
Bonjour,
Nous partons au vietnam le 28 janvier avec asia circuit du nord au sud de 15 jours
Nous avons 3 nuits en train couchettes
Avez vous eu l'occasion de tester
Merci de vos commentaire
Mon épouse est un peu inquiete....
bonjour et bonne année 2010
je me permet un peu de me moquer sans mechanceté aucune mais dire que vous pouvez donner des rensignements sur la pays en ayant fait le vietnam en voyage organisé mes fais un peu rire jaune(sans jeux de mots foireux).
qu avez vous vue sur place ce que l ont a bien voulus vous faire voir, les sites touristiques c est clair mais la population j en doute?
sur les sites touristiques ce ne sont pas des vietnamiens mais ce sont des marchands et font du commerces et ne sont pas la pour vous faire risettes.
je suis francais et je vais effectué mon troisieme sejour du 8 au 31 janvier , je ne suis pas un voyageur sac a dos et ne frequente pas non plus les hotels pour touristes occidentaux.
une difference de taille je suis en contact avec la vrai population reelle et je vous signale que le salaire moyen tourne autour de 70 euros , donc sur les sites a touristes vous depensez parfois plus qu un salaire mensuel en quelques minutes, les vietnamiens ne sont pas jaloux de l argent, pas de rivalité pauvres riches car vous avez surement pas vus ques les classes sociales vivent cote a cote sans s entretuer?
si ma manière de voyager, c'est d'avoir recours au service d'un TO, c'est mon droit !
je sais que ce que je verrez est déterminé par lui, mais n'oubliez pas que c'est moi qui choisi le TO, et que je le fait en fonction du programme qu'il propose
alors, peut-être que je n'ai pas vu, tout ce qu'un "voyageur à sac à dos" verra au même endroit, mais j'ai vu autre chose... et si j'ai les moyens de me payer des hotels 3 ou 4 etoiles, encore une fois c'est mon droit !
quand j'interviens sur VF, forum du voyage, c'est bien du voyage en général auquel je pense...
je ne veux pas de polémique...
alors, peut-être que je n'ai pas vu, tout ce qu'un "voyageur à sac à dos" verra au même endroit, mais j'ai vu autre chose... et si j'ai les moyens de me payer des hotels 3 ou 4 etoiles, encore une fois c'est mon droit !
quand j'interviens sur VF, forum du voyage, c'est bien du voyage en général auquel je pense...
je ne veux pas de polémique...
Hello!
On part pour le Vietnam avec des amis fin mars/debut avril pour 2 semaines.
On pensait arriver a Ho Chi Minh, aller a Nha trang, et finir par Hanoi at la baie d Halong - les incontournables j imagine...? ce sera un peu en stress, on pense finir le sejour au Laos en prenant l avion depuis Hanoi.
Des infos et conseils sur les transports, hebergements et choses a decouvrir absolument??
Un grand merci pour ton aide
On part pour le Vietnam avec des amis fin mars/debut avril pour 2 semaines.
On pensait arriver a Ho Chi Minh, aller a Nha trang, et finir par Hanoi at la baie d Halong - les incontournables j imagine...? ce sera un peu en stress, on pense finir le sejour au Laos en prenant l avion depuis Hanoi.
Des infos et conseils sur les transports, hebergements et choses a decouvrir absolument??
Un grand merci pour ton aide
On pensait arriver a Ho Chi Minh, aller a Nha trang, et finir par Hanoi at la baie d Halong - les incontournables j imagine...? ce sera un peu en stress, on pense finir le sejour au Laos en prenant l avion depuis Hanoi.
A HCM ville, à part les classiques monuments de la période colionale française comme l'Eglise Notre Dame, La Poste, la Mairie, le Théâtre, il y a le marché Bên Thành, le quartier chinois Cholon, le musée de l'Histoire du ViêtNam où vous pouvez assister également à un spectacle des marionnettes sur l'eau.
Vous pouvez flâner dans les rues de Saigon: Trân Hung Dao, Cách Mang Tháng Tám, Diên Biên Phu, 3 Tháng 2, Nguyên Trai, etc ... ou vous rendre dans la presqu'île de Bình Quoc, un prémisce de ce qu'est le Delta du Mékong, ou au parc Dai Nam Van Hiên dans le district voisin de Thu Duc....
Empruntez les bus locaux en dehors des heures d'affluence scolaire pour faire connaissance avec la ville.
De HCM à Nha Trang, prenez un bus touristique à partir de Pham Ngu Lao, la cie Trà La Viên par exemple, qui part le soir autour de 20 Heures, en siège couchette. A Nha Trang, vous avez l'inévitable Tour Cham Ponagar, la pagode Long Son, la station thermale de Thác Bà et si vous avez une âme humanitaire, une petite visite au village SOS Enfant au Nord de Nha Trang.
Vous pouvez faire un tour des 4 îles comprenant l'île Mùn, un spot de snorkeling pour admirer les beaux poissons multicolores, l'aquarium marin Trí Nguyên, et l'île de Hòn Tám pour une baignade à la plage.
Vous pouvez vous rendre à 50 km au Nord de Nha Trang pour passer quelques jours de farniente balnéaire de Doc Let ou de Jungle Beach.
De Nha Trang à Hà Nôi, vous pouvez prendre l'avion. Logez-vous dans le vieux quartier du Lac Hoàn Kiêm, vous pouvez visiter le musée ethnographique et le temple de littérature qui sont à proximité.
Pour la baie d'Halong, vous avez le choix des cie qui vous proposent des croisières dont la qualité des prestations dépend des tarifs. Je fais bref parce que vous n'avez que 2 semaines au ViêtNam🙂
A HCM ville, à part les classiques monuments de la période colionale française comme l'Eglise Notre Dame, La Poste, la Mairie, le Théâtre, il y a le marché Bên Thành, le quartier chinois Cholon, le musée de l'Histoire du ViêtNam où vous pouvez assister également à un spectacle des marionnettes sur l'eau.
Vous pouvez flâner dans les rues de Saigon: Trân Hung Dao, Cách Mang Tháng Tám, Diên Biên Phu, 3 Tháng 2, Nguyên Trai, etc ... ou vous rendre dans la presqu'île de Bình Quoc, un prémisce de ce qu'est le Delta du Mékong, ou au parc Dai Nam Van Hiên dans le district voisin de Thu Duc....
Empruntez les bus locaux en dehors des heures d'affluence scolaire pour faire connaissance avec la ville.
De HCM à Nha Trang, prenez un bus touristique à partir de Pham Ngu Lao, la cie Trà La Viên par exemple, qui part le soir autour de 20 Heures, en siège couchette. A Nha Trang, vous avez l'inévitable Tour Cham Ponagar, la pagode Long Son, la station thermale de Thác Bà et si vous avez une âme humanitaire, une petite visite au village SOS Enfant au Nord de Nha Trang.
Vous pouvez faire un tour des 4 îles comprenant l'île Mùn, un spot de snorkeling pour admirer les beaux poissons multicolores, l'aquarium marin Trí Nguyên, et l'île de Hòn Tám pour une baignade à la plage.
Vous pouvez vous rendre à 50 km au Nord de Nha Trang pour passer quelques jours de farniente balnéaire de Doc Let ou de Jungle Beach.
De Nha Trang à Hà Nôi, vous pouvez prendre l'avion. Logez-vous dans le vieux quartier du Lac Hoàn Kiêm, vous pouvez visiter le musée ethnographique et le temple de littérature qui sont à proximité.
Pour la baie d'Halong, vous avez le choix des cie qui vous proposent des croisières dont la qualité des prestations dépend des tarifs. Je fais bref parce que vous n'avez que 2 semaines au ViêtNam🙂
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Je n'ai pas été passionnée par le Vietnam......mais je pense qu'avec un TO on est moins à la merci de la mafia locale qui en fait empêche les vraies relations commerciales avec la population blog http://chrisoma.travelblog.fr.........merci à ceux qui ne sont pas d'accord de ne pas me tomber dessus:cela ne sert à rien:je ne fais qu'exprimer mon vécu!
marieva la bretonne
en fait au VN comme ailleurs il faut savoir se debrouiller....
mais surtout avec le sourire et tout se passera mieux
amicalement
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
Bonjour,
J'ai lu vos articles sur le VN dans votre blog et suis tres choquee de certains de vos propos.
En effet, dans votre article sur le trajet Baie d'Ha Long - Sa Pa, vous parlez de "mafia locale" et dites que c'est comme ca que "fonctionne majoritairement le Viet Nam". Qu'il y ait des arnaques et des tentatives d'arnaques faites par certains, c'est une chose averee, inutile de se cacher et d'ailleurs cela se passe dans de nombreux endroits du globe, c'est un fait. Mais de la a parler de "mafia locale", je m'insurge.
Premierement, la "mafia locale" (mafia vietnamienne) ne s'interesse que tres peu aux touristes, elle a bien d'autres creneaux de "business". Deuxiemement, ce n'est pas comme ca que fonctionne majoritairement le Viet Nam, vous insultez le peuple vietnamien dans vos propos. Ils ont des defauts, soit, comme tout un chacun, mais les traiter de mafieux dans leur ensemble, c'est extremement choquant. Vous ne savez RIEN des pratiques mafieuses ni de leurs cibles alors, s'il vous plait, taisez-vous.
Cordialement, Pat
J'ai lu vos articles sur le VN dans votre blog et suis tres choquee de certains de vos propos.
En effet, dans votre article sur le trajet Baie d'Ha Long - Sa Pa, vous parlez de "mafia locale" et dites que c'est comme ca que "fonctionne majoritairement le Viet Nam". Qu'il y ait des arnaques et des tentatives d'arnaques faites par certains, c'est une chose averee, inutile de se cacher et d'ailleurs cela se passe dans de nombreux endroits du globe, c'est un fait. Mais de la a parler de "mafia locale", je m'insurge.
Premierement, la "mafia locale" (mafia vietnamienne) ne s'interesse que tres peu aux touristes, elle a bien d'autres creneaux de "business". Deuxiemement, ce n'est pas comme ca que fonctionne majoritairement le Viet Nam, vous insultez le peuple vietnamien dans vos propos. Ils ont des defauts, soit, comme tout un chacun, mais les traiter de mafieux dans leur ensemble, c'est extremement choquant. Vous ne savez RIEN des pratiques mafieuses ni de leurs cibles alors, s'il vous plait, taisez-vous.
Cordialement, Pat
.......je savais bien que certaines personnes réagiraient........le terme de mafia locale:ce n'est pas moi qui l'ai employé mais un chauffeur de mini bus qui se considère aussi arnaqué car il n'est pas payé ce qui a été convenu par celui qui nous a fait payer le prix du trajet.......et il n'est pas le seul à constater ce phénomène......et nous nous l'avons vécu tout au long de notre périple....y compris avec de la violence .....ce que je n'ai pas souligné dans mon blog: deux australiens se sont fait agresser parce qu'ils ne voulaient pas aller dans l'hôtel ou ils avaient été conduits "par erreur" par le taxi!Arnaque mentionnée dans tous les guides!
Ceci dit je comprend que vous vous sentiez concernée car vous avez choisi de vivre dans ce pays......ce n'est pas pour cela qu'il y a lieu d'occulter ce que certaines personnes y ont vécu pour ne pas dire ce qu'elles y ont subi!
.....et sans rancune ni agressivité!
marieva la bretonne
oui en effet c est pas faux lol
e terme de mafia locale:ce n'est pas moi qui l'ai employé mais un chauffeur de mini bus qui se considère aussi arnaqué car il n'est pas payé ce qui a été convenu par celui qui nous a fait payer le prix du trajet.......et il n'est pas le seul à constater ce phénomène......
D'accord avec le chauffeur de minibus, nombre d'agences sous-paient leurs chauffeurs et leurs guides, j'en connais beaucoup (chauffeurs et guides) et je suis toujours effaree lorsqu'ils me disent combien ils recoivent. Un exemple concret arrive l'ete dernier a un de mes amis guide a Nha Trang : il a recu 190.000 VND de l'agence (200.000 - 10.000 pour "papiers") pour une journee qui avait ete facturee 800.000 VND au client; or, le guide/chauffeur se sert de sa propre moto et paie lui-meme l'essence et les tickets d'entree aux sites ! Ceci dit, rien a voir une fois encore avec la "mafia" (terme utilise par les Vietnamiens lorsqu'ils s'adressent aux etrangers dans le but de se faire comprendre. Enfin soit, on ne va pas polemiquer sur le sujet, c'est trop complique et ce n'est pas le sujet du forum.
deux australiens se sont fait agresser parce qu'ils ne voulaient pas aller dans l'hôtel ou ils avaient été conduits "par erreur" par le taxi!Arnaque mentionnée dans tous les guides!
C'est bien triste pour eux, mais une fois de plus, il ne faut pas faire d'un cas (et meme de plusieurs cas particuliers) une generalite. C'est cette generalisation qui me fait dresser les cheveux sur la tete.
ce n'est pas pour cela qu'il y a lieu d'occulter ce que certaines personnes y ont vécu pour ne pas dire ce qu'elles y ont subi!
D'accord, il faut relater ses experiences, bonnes et mauvaises. Je suis la premiere a pousser mon coup de gueule sur certaines pratiques et certaines personnes ici au VN. Il m'arrive encore tres souvent de sortir de mes gonds dans les situations de la vie courante et cela etonne plus d'un, notamment mon copain qui deteste ca, je devrais, selon lui "garder tout a l'interieur". Neanmoins, et je le repete, il ne faut pas generaliser ni dans un sens, ni dans l'autre. Le VN, comme beaucoup de pays en developpement touristique n'est ni Bisounoursland, ni Arnaqueland. Le Viet Nam est tel qu'il est avec ses defauts et ses qualites, ses gens biens et ses saligauds, ses courageux et ses faineants, ses sourires et ses "je te tire la gu..." Bref, un pays, une nation, des peuples (le pluriel est volontaire), des mentalites, des modes de vie, des joies et des peines, des bons jours et des mauvais.
Petite histoire du jour : Je rentre de Saigon vers Can Tho, un dimanche soir, mauvaise idee (je le sais, mais je n'ai pas trop le choix). Arrivee a proximite de l'embarcadere du ferry, file d'attente de deux km environ. Apres une heure, la moitie des passagers a quitte le bus et je me decide a faire de meme (on n'a pas fait 500 m). Je demande a un xe-om combien pour aller jusqu'a l'embarcadere (1, 5 km maxi). Il me dit 10.000 VND. Cher, mais bon, je gagne une grosse heure, j'accepte. Arrives a destination, il me propose de m'emmener jusqu'a Can Tho (facon de parler, on y sera deja a la sortie du ferry, mais il parle du centre ville). Je ne reponds pas, mais reste avec lui a attendre le ferry, je me dis que je lui donnerai 10.000 VND de plus pour aller jusqu'a chez moi (1.5 km du debarcadere). Sur le bateau, il part et revient en me disant qu'il veut bien m'emmener au centre (3 km) pour 70.000 VND. Je rigole et lui demande s'il plaisante. Il diminue a 50.000 VDN, ce que je refuse. Je lui demande combien jusqu'ici (on est tjs sur le ferry) et il me demande 20.000 VND que je lui donne meme si le prix initial etait de 10.000 VND jusqu'au ferry (on etait dessus, il a fait 20 m de plus que prevu 😉). Qu'aurais-je du faire ? Me disputer avec lui pour 10.000 VND devant 20 personnes ? Pfff... Il a joue, il n'a pas tout perdu, j'ai laisse courir, je n'ai pas tout perdu... QQ personnes parlant l'anglais ont assiste a la scene et je leur ai fait la reflexion suivante "c'est quand meme grave, nous les etrangers, ils croient toujours que nous sommes stupides et allons payer 5 fois le prix". Reponse : "Non, ils ne croient pas que les etrangers sont stupides, mais ils essaient, ils pensent que les etrangers ne connaissent pas les prix courants et donc qu'ils peuvent faire une bonne affaire". Finalement, ce que l'on prend pour du non-respect est tout simplement du business a leurs yeux. Ils ont approuve mon geste (j'ai cloture "l'entretien" sans que lui ni moi ne perdions la face, sans qu'on se fache et hausse le ton). En ne descendant pas de la moto avant l'embarquement, j'ai laisse une porte ouverte, il a essaye de la franchir avec un tigre, je lui ai laisse un chat, personne n'a perdu.
Cette petite histoire pour illustrer le fait que les choses ne se passent pas ici comme en Europe, qu'il vaut mieux lacher un peu de mou de chaque cote pour eviter de "criser" a chaque transaction. Et surtout, bien se renseigner sur les prix courants AVANT d'envisager une transaction. Je devrais le savoir depuis le temps, au fond, l'ane, c'est moi 😉.
Cordialement, Pat
D'accord avec le chauffeur de minibus, nombre d'agences sous-paient leurs chauffeurs et leurs guides, j'en connais beaucoup (chauffeurs et guides) et je suis toujours effaree lorsqu'ils me disent combien ils recoivent. Un exemple concret arrive l'ete dernier a un de mes amis guide a Nha Trang : il a recu 190.000 VND de l'agence (200.000 - 10.000 pour "papiers") pour une journee qui avait ete facturee 800.000 VND au client; or, le guide/chauffeur se sert de sa propre moto et paie lui-meme l'essence et les tickets d'entree aux sites ! Ceci dit, rien a voir une fois encore avec la "mafia" (terme utilise par les Vietnamiens lorsqu'ils s'adressent aux etrangers dans le but de se faire comprendre. Enfin soit, on ne va pas polemiquer sur le sujet, c'est trop complique et ce n'est pas le sujet du forum.
deux australiens se sont fait agresser parce qu'ils ne voulaient pas aller dans l'hôtel ou ils avaient été conduits "par erreur" par le taxi!Arnaque mentionnée dans tous les guides!
C'est bien triste pour eux, mais une fois de plus, il ne faut pas faire d'un cas (et meme de plusieurs cas particuliers) une generalite. C'est cette generalisation qui me fait dresser les cheveux sur la tete.
ce n'est pas pour cela qu'il y a lieu d'occulter ce que certaines personnes y ont vécu pour ne pas dire ce qu'elles y ont subi!
D'accord, il faut relater ses experiences, bonnes et mauvaises. Je suis la premiere a pousser mon coup de gueule sur certaines pratiques et certaines personnes ici au VN. Il m'arrive encore tres souvent de sortir de mes gonds dans les situations de la vie courante et cela etonne plus d'un, notamment mon copain qui deteste ca, je devrais, selon lui "garder tout a l'interieur". Neanmoins, et je le repete, il ne faut pas generaliser ni dans un sens, ni dans l'autre. Le VN, comme beaucoup de pays en developpement touristique n'est ni Bisounoursland, ni Arnaqueland. Le Viet Nam est tel qu'il est avec ses defauts et ses qualites, ses gens biens et ses saligauds, ses courageux et ses faineants, ses sourires et ses "je te tire la gu..." Bref, un pays, une nation, des peuples (le pluriel est volontaire), des mentalites, des modes de vie, des joies et des peines, des bons jours et des mauvais.
Petite histoire du jour : Je rentre de Saigon vers Can Tho, un dimanche soir, mauvaise idee (je le sais, mais je n'ai pas trop le choix). Arrivee a proximite de l'embarcadere du ferry, file d'attente de deux km environ. Apres une heure, la moitie des passagers a quitte le bus et je me decide a faire de meme (on n'a pas fait 500 m). Je demande a un xe-om combien pour aller jusqu'a l'embarcadere (1, 5 km maxi). Il me dit 10.000 VND. Cher, mais bon, je gagne une grosse heure, j'accepte. Arrives a destination, il me propose de m'emmener jusqu'a Can Tho (facon de parler, on y sera deja a la sortie du ferry, mais il parle du centre ville). Je ne reponds pas, mais reste avec lui a attendre le ferry, je me dis que je lui donnerai 10.000 VND de plus pour aller jusqu'a chez moi (1.5 km du debarcadere). Sur le bateau, il part et revient en me disant qu'il veut bien m'emmener au centre (3 km) pour 70.000 VND. Je rigole et lui demande s'il plaisante. Il diminue a 50.000 VDN, ce que je refuse. Je lui demande combien jusqu'ici (on est tjs sur le ferry) et il me demande 20.000 VND que je lui donne meme si le prix initial etait de 10.000 VND jusqu'au ferry (on etait dessus, il a fait 20 m de plus que prevu 😉). Qu'aurais-je du faire ? Me disputer avec lui pour 10.000 VND devant 20 personnes ? Pfff... Il a joue, il n'a pas tout perdu, j'ai laisse courir, je n'ai pas tout perdu... QQ personnes parlant l'anglais ont assiste a la scene et je leur ai fait la reflexion suivante "c'est quand meme grave, nous les etrangers, ils croient toujours que nous sommes stupides et allons payer 5 fois le prix". Reponse : "Non, ils ne croient pas que les etrangers sont stupides, mais ils essaient, ils pensent que les etrangers ne connaissent pas les prix courants et donc qu'ils peuvent faire une bonne affaire". Finalement, ce que l'on prend pour du non-respect est tout simplement du business a leurs yeux. Ils ont approuve mon geste (j'ai cloture "l'entretien" sans que lui ni moi ne perdions la face, sans qu'on se fache et hausse le ton). En ne descendant pas de la moto avant l'embarquement, j'ai laisse une porte ouverte, il a essaye de la franchir avec un tigre, je lui ai laisse un chat, personne n'a perdu.
Cette petite histoire pour illustrer le fait que les choses ne se passent pas ici comme en Europe, qu'il vaut mieux lacher un peu de mou de chaque cote pour eviter de "criser" a chaque transaction. Et surtout, bien se renseigner sur les prix courants AVANT d'envisager une transaction. Je devrais le savoir depuis le temps, au fond, l'ane, c'est moi 😉.
Cordialement, Pat
je devrais le savoir depuis le temps, au fond, l'ane, c'est moi 😉.
Eh bien cet âne là .........je lui donne volontiers du foin.....!vietnamien, français, belge......comme il préfère!😉
Cordialement
marieva la bretonne
Eh bien cet âne là .........je lui donne volontiers du foin.....!vietnamien, français, belge......comme il préfère!😉
T'as pas plutot du salami a l'ail ??? Ici, il n'est pas bon et coute la peau des fesses.😉
T'as pas plutot du salami a l'ail ??? Ici, il n'est pas bon et coute la peau des fesses.😉
Bonsoir, vous avez eu raison de ne pas vous laisser faire et ce type de comportement est irritant mais vous le rencontrerez encore bien sur chez d'autres personnes car il est compréhensible que certains veuillent profiter un peu de l'argent de ceux qui ont la chance d'en avoir ( tous les occidentaux à leur yeux en font partie).
Mais cela n'est pas organisé comme en occident où certes les prix sont affichés mais on peut souvent obtenir un rabais en demandant. Et puis avec les soldes les rabais peuvent être de 50, 60 ou 70% . On fait donc une bonne affaire à moins qu'on se soit fait "avoir" en achetant au prix fort ?
Que penser des prix des parfums en Europe où il faut au minimum en 2010, 60 € pour 100 ml C'est parait-il du rêve et cela n'a donc pas de prix !!!!
Le cout du "liquide" est de 1% du prix (soit 0, 5€), le reste étant la publicité (ca coute cher les top models pour vanter le rêve) le marketing, le bénéfice de l'industriel et la marge du commerçant)
Que la sérénité soit avec vous même si c'est parfois dur d'être loin de chez soi et surtout de sa culture
Mais cela n'est pas organisé comme en occident où certes les prix sont affichés mais on peut souvent obtenir un rabais en demandant. Et puis avec les soldes les rabais peuvent être de 50, 60 ou 70% . On fait donc une bonne affaire à moins qu'on se soit fait "avoir" en achetant au prix fort ?
Que penser des prix des parfums en Europe où il faut au minimum en 2010, 60 € pour 100 ml C'est parait-il du rêve et cela n'a donc pas de prix !!!!
Le cout du "liquide" est de 1% du prix (soit 0, 5€), le reste étant la publicité (ca coute cher les top models pour vanter le rêve) le marketing, le bénéfice de l'industriel et la marge du commerçant)
Que la sérénité soit avec vous même si c'est parfois dur d'être loin de chez soi et surtout de sa culture
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Bonjour à tous, me voilà revenue sur le forum.
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
Marsyork
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
Marsyork
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!