Bonjour à tous,
j'ai eu plusieurs son de cloches différents pour le palu en Afrique du Sud pour le mois d'Aout.
doit t on prendre un traitement dans le Kruger ? Si oui, quel niveau (malarone ?) ?
Merci
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Risque de paludisme dans le Parc Kruger en août?
by Ygandalf
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
doit t on prendre un traitement dans le Kruger ?
Le risque est plus qu'infime.
C'est à toi de juger si ce risque te parait plus important que les effets secondaires d'un médicament.
malarone ?
Oui.
Personnellement, je n'ai pris de Malarone pour aucun de mes séjours en AFS même en saison des pluies.
En revanche, j'ai pris ce médoc pour le Botswana et le Mozambique.
Le risque est plus qu'infime.
C'est à toi de juger si ce risque te parait plus important que les effets secondaires d'un médicament.
malarone ?
Oui.
Personnellement, je n'ai pris de Malarone pour aucun de mes séjours en AFS même en saison des pluies.
En revanche, j'ai pris ce médoc pour le Botswana et le Mozambique.
Deux observations:
1/En août, en hiver donc dans cette région, les conditions, tant de températures que d'hygrométrie sont, et depuis quelques mois, les plus défavorables de l'année pour la reproduction des moustiques.
2/Le Kruger est en limite des grandes zones à risque.
Je ne suis pas médecin non plus😇. Seules les femelles sont dangereuses😎.
Je ne suis pas médecin non plus😇. Seules les femelles sont dangereuses😎.
De toutes les espèces ?🤪😄
Pour certaine espèce le poète dit qu'elle est l'avenir...😮
Meme question mais en Octobre.
J'y vais 4 jours en tout debut de mois d'octobre. Je vais aller voir un docteur mais je voulais un avis de voyageurs avant... Avec ou sans traitements?
Merci par avance,
J'y vais 4 jours en tout debut de mois d'octobre. Je vais aller voir un docteur mais je voulais un avis de voyageurs avant... Avec ou sans traitements?
Merci par avance,
L'homme qui veut s'instruire doit lire d'abord, et puis voyager pour rectifier ce qu'il a appris.
La réponse est la même.
Risques très faibles versus effets secondaires.
Risques très faibles versus effets secondaires.
Ce poète est clairvoyant. 😄
Je nuancerais, une fois n'est pas coutume, et à la marge, la réponse d'Attila😉. Le niveau de risque évolue légèrement: les températures minimales augmentent de 5/7° et il pleut six fois plus qu'en août; les conditions sont un peu plus propices au re-développement des moustiques.
Je pense que dans le lien proposé par Pierre-le-laconique😉, sur le même sujet, on doit évoquer un aspect qui ne l'a pas été ici: se protéger des piqures!
Je pense que dans le lien proposé par Pierre-le-laconique😉, sur le même sujet, on doit évoquer un aspect qui ne l'a pas été ici: se protéger des piqures!
Ce poète est clairvoyant. 😄
Peut-on se fier, en l'espèce, au poète qui, bien tardivement, fit son coming out?😇
Peut-on se fier, en l'espèce, au poète qui, bien tardivement, fit son coming out?😇
La clairvoyance passe par le détachement.
L'orientation sexuelle n' a donc rien à voir là dedans...😇
L'orientation sexuelle n' a donc rien à voir là dedans...😇
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Encore une petite intervention sur la Malaria et les prophylaxies (ou non !!).
Parmi toutes les interventions (judicieuses et éclairées - ??) de ce post, il me manque une information essentielle:
UNE SEULE PIQURE SUFFIT
J' ai voyagé dans la région en AFS (dont Kruger), Moz, Malawi, Botswana, Zambie, Zimbabwe et Nord Namibie (Caprivi), toutes régions sujettes à paludisme..
C' est vrai que cette année (Avril / Mai / Juin) je n' ai vu quasiment aucun moustique au Kruger, ni non plus au Mozambique (même au bord du Zambèze), ni non plus au Malawi (Shire River et bords du lac).
Pas plus d' ailleurs qu 'on ne voit beaucoup de moustiques en saison sèche dans l' Okavango, à Moremi ou à Chobe.
J' ai néanmoins pris comme un brave garçon ma prophylaxie (Lariam, qui ne provoque chez moi pas plus d' effets secondaires que de l' aspirine). C' est aussi le conseil d' un camarade médecin (chirurgien) renommé de Capetown. Je n' ai pas l' habitude de jouer à la roulette Russe, qu 'il y ait une ou six balles dans le barillet..
J' ai bien sûr également des "repellents" efficaces, et même partiellement des vêtements traités anti insectes (Fjall Räven Suède).
Si c' est une question d' effets secondaires, ils sont minimes à dérisoires (et les médocs concernés ne provoquent pas de maladies...). Si c' est une question de fric, je crois qu 'il vaut mieux ne pas entreprendre de voyages dans la région si on est à 40 € près.
A+
Encore une petite intervention sur la Malaria et les prophylaxies (ou non !!).
Parmi toutes les interventions (judicieuses et éclairées - ??) de ce post, il me manque une information essentielle:
UNE SEULE PIQURE SUFFIT
J' ai voyagé dans la région en AFS (dont Kruger), Moz, Malawi, Botswana, Zambie, Zimbabwe et Nord Namibie (Caprivi), toutes régions sujettes à paludisme..
C' est vrai que cette année (Avril / Mai / Juin) je n' ai vu quasiment aucun moustique au Kruger, ni non plus au Mozambique (même au bord du Zambèze), ni non plus au Malawi (Shire River et bords du lac).
Pas plus d' ailleurs qu 'on ne voit beaucoup de moustiques en saison sèche dans l' Okavango, à Moremi ou à Chobe.
J' ai néanmoins pris comme un brave garçon ma prophylaxie (Lariam, qui ne provoque chez moi pas plus d' effets secondaires que de l' aspirine). C' est aussi le conseil d' un camarade médecin (chirurgien) renommé de Capetown. Je n' ai pas l' habitude de jouer à la roulette Russe, qu 'il y ait une ou six balles dans le barillet..
J' ai bien sûr également des "repellents" efficaces, et même partiellement des vêtements traités anti insectes (Fjall Räven Suède).
Si c' est une question d' effets secondaires, ils sont minimes à dérisoires (et les médocs concernés ne provoquent pas de maladies...). Si c' est une question de fric, je crois qu 'il vaut mieux ne pas entreprendre de voyages dans la région si on est à 40 € près.
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Si c' est une question de fric, je crois qu 'il vaut mieux ne pas entreprendre de voyages dans la région si on est à 40 € près.
Si le problème n'est que financier, il existe des mutuelles qui remboursent la Malarone et autres.
Par ailleurs, le doxypalu peut dans certaines régions remplacer la Malarone.(Mais il faut investir dans de l'écran total...)
Ce médicament a l'avantage de soigner d'autres maladies et donc d'avoir un prix encadré par la sécu. Il est donc abordable.
Pour la Malarone, le prix étant libre, il convient de se reporter aux discussions sur ce forum où sont nommées les pharmacies ne pratiquant pas des marges astronomiques sur ce produit.
Si c' est une question d' effets secondaires, ils sont minimes à dérisoires
Il ne s'agit pas que des effets secondaires sur les personnes les ingérant.
Il s'agit aussi des effets secondaires de la surmédicalisation qui fait que la résistance aux médicaments se développe et que ceux ci finissent par ne plus faire d'effet...😕
(Comme pour les antibios)
C'est pourquoi, il ne me semble pas utile de se bourrer d'anti palu pour le Kruger surtout quand on rejoint le soir le confort de camps régulièrement passés à la sulfateuse.D'ailleurs, aucun logement n'est équipé de moustiquaire...
Le problème est différent pour des voyages plus rustiques dans des pays voisins.
J' ai bien sûr également des "repellents" efficaces,
C'est la protection numéro 1 !😉
(avec les manches longues et les pantalons...)
Si le problème n'est que financier, il existe des mutuelles qui remboursent la Malarone et autres.
Par ailleurs, le doxypalu peut dans certaines régions remplacer la Malarone.(Mais il faut investir dans de l'écran total...)
Ce médicament a l'avantage de soigner d'autres maladies et donc d'avoir un prix encadré par la sécu. Il est donc abordable.
Pour la Malarone, le prix étant libre, il convient de se reporter aux discussions sur ce forum où sont nommées les pharmacies ne pratiquant pas des marges astronomiques sur ce produit.
Si c' est une question d' effets secondaires, ils sont minimes à dérisoires
Il ne s'agit pas que des effets secondaires sur les personnes les ingérant.
Il s'agit aussi des effets secondaires de la surmédicalisation qui fait que la résistance aux médicaments se développe et que ceux ci finissent par ne plus faire d'effet...😕
(Comme pour les antibios)
C'est pourquoi, il ne me semble pas utile de se bourrer d'anti palu pour le Kruger surtout quand on rejoint le soir le confort de camps régulièrement passés à la sulfateuse.D'ailleurs, aucun logement n'est équipé de moustiquaire...
Le problème est différent pour des voyages plus rustiques dans des pays voisins.
J' ai bien sûr également des "repellents" efficaces,
C'est la protection numéro 1 !😉
(avec les manches longues et les pantalons...)
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