Safari au Kenya: 4x4 ou minibus?
by Mfenj
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Afin de finaliser notre safari au Kenya notre agence de voyage nous demande une option 4x4 ou minibus. Nous serons 4 avec un guide privé et le mois que nous avons choisi n'est pas pluvieux par contre certains trajets ont une durée de 6 heures. Afin de profiter au mieux des étapes nous privillégions le confort ou du moins le désir de terminer le séjour en forme.
Merci de nous faire part de votre expérience.
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Bonjour Marie-France,
Il existe des minibus 4x4 (Fiat, Mercedes, etc.). Leurs qualités de franchissement sont moins bonnes que celles des 4x4 à châssis court et à peu près équivalentes à celles des 4x4 à châssis long. Pour la saison sèche, cela peut suffire en apportant plus de confort en espace qu’un 4x4 et plus de possibilités de déplacement dans le véhicule pour les photos. Cependant, les minibus 4x4 ne courent pas les pistes. Un 4x4 à châssis long comme un Toyota Landcruiser avec 3 rangs de sièges passager est une bonne solution, c’est celle que je te conseille.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
PS : quel mois ton safari ? Tout d’abord, la notion de saison sèche est une approximation et ensuite, comme tout ce qui est naturel, les conditions climatiques peuvent être très différentes d’une année sur l’autre, sans parler même de dérèglement climatique. Et enfin, même en fin de saison sèche, il peut exister encore des pistes boueuses, voire inondées, et avec du black cotton...
Il existe des minibus 4x4 (Fiat, Mercedes, etc.). Leurs qualités de franchissement sont moins bonnes que celles des 4x4 à châssis court et à peu près équivalentes à celles des 4x4 à châssis long. Pour la saison sèche, cela peut suffire en apportant plus de confort en espace qu’un 4x4 et plus de possibilités de déplacement dans le véhicule pour les photos. Cependant, les minibus 4x4 ne courent pas les pistes. Un 4x4 à châssis long comme un Toyota Landcruiser avec 3 rangs de sièges passager est une bonne solution, c’est celle que je te conseille.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
PS : quel mois ton safari ? Tout d’abord, la notion de saison sèche est une approximation et ensuite, comme tout ce qui est naturel, les conditions climatiques peuvent être très différentes d’une année sur l’autre, sans parler même de dérèglement climatique. Et enfin, même en fin de saison sèche, il peut exister encore des pistes boueuses, voire inondées, et avec du black cotton...
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
Bonjour,
Demande à ton TO mais je pense que la plupart des minibus servant pour les safaris au Kenya sont 4X4. Ils ont cependant une garde au sol moins importantes que les 4X4 classiques.
A mon avis le choix dépend essentiellement de l'itinéraire choisi. Sur un safari classique : Amboseli, Nakuru, Massai Mara je pense que l'on peut faire l'économie et opter pour le minibus.
(la différence de prix est importante) Par contre lorsque l'on va un peu hors des sentiers battus (Aberdare NP, certains secteurs de Meru NP notamment ) là le véhicule 4X4 est indispensable.
Je n'ai jamais utilisé de minibus mais à priori sur les trajets entre les parcs ils sont sans doute plus confortables (tout dépend aussi du modèle et de l'état ....)
Si ton TO est sérieux il devrait pouvoir te conseiller.
Après c'est une question d'esthétique et aussi il faut bien le dire un peu de "snobisme" l'allure du minibus n'est pas très "chic" en safari.
Bonjour Marie-France,
La plupart des minibus de safari au Kenya (ou en Tanzanie, où ils sont beaucoup plus rares) NE sont pas 4x4, parfois même contrairement à ce qu'en disent des agences locales (peu sérieuses, certes) : les minibus 4x4 sont beaucoup plus chers, plus fragiles, donc plus couteux en entretien pour des performances inférieures aux voitures 4x4. Même quand ils sont 4x4, ils sont moins à même de franchir les parties boueuses des pistes que les 4x4 classiques : ils ont un empattement plus longs, ont une garde au sol insuffisante (même si les minibus 4x4 bénéficient d'une garde au sol augmentée), n'ont pas de châssis mais une carrosserie autoportante, n'ont parfois pas de vitesse courte et de blocages de différentiel inter-roues ou inter-pont. En prime, ils sont souvent plus chargés, avec plus de personnes transportées et plus de bagages...
Parier sur des pistes sèches partout est un pari perdu d'avance. J'ai vu plusieurs fois à Masai Mara, et même en fin de saison sèche (septembre), des 4x4 bien enlisés, ainsi que des pistes interdites aux minibus (non 4x4 je présume ?). Si les gnous migrent vers la partie nord de l'écosystème du Serengeti, au Kenya, à Masai Mara, une des raisons principales, c'est qu'il y pleut plus en été (le nôtre) qu'en Tanzanie, des pluies courtes le plus souvent mais violentes et qui laissent des fondrières ... Et il n'y a pas que la boue, le porte-à-faux plus important interdit le franchissement de certains gués avec des roches (notamment sur la Talek) où un 4x4 se contente (...) de taper un peu de l'arrière là où un minibus resterait coincé.

À Mara en septembre
À Mara en juin
Et puis, surtout, je suis d'accord avec Sylvie, que ce soit du snobisme ou pas, on perd une partie du plaisir, on s'éloigne du mythe du Out of Africa, de l'idée que l'on se fait du Safari avec un grand S...
Alors sacrifier un peu d'espace, de confort, de shillings avec un 4x4 ou sacrifier avec un minibus allure, capacités de franchir (presque) tous les obstacles et d'aller (presque) partout ? Un choix personnel...
Bonne journée, bonne réflexion et
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
La plupart des minibus de safari au Kenya (ou en Tanzanie, où ils sont beaucoup plus rares) NE sont pas 4x4, parfois même contrairement à ce qu'en disent des agences locales (peu sérieuses, certes) : les minibus 4x4 sont beaucoup plus chers, plus fragiles, donc plus couteux en entretien pour des performances inférieures aux voitures 4x4. Même quand ils sont 4x4, ils sont moins à même de franchir les parties boueuses des pistes que les 4x4 classiques : ils ont un empattement plus longs, ont une garde au sol insuffisante (même si les minibus 4x4 bénéficient d'une garde au sol augmentée), n'ont pas de châssis mais une carrosserie autoportante, n'ont parfois pas de vitesse courte et de blocages de différentiel inter-roues ou inter-pont. En prime, ils sont souvent plus chargés, avec plus de personnes transportées et plus de bagages...
Parier sur des pistes sèches partout est un pari perdu d'avance. J'ai vu plusieurs fois à Masai Mara, et même en fin de saison sèche (septembre), des 4x4 bien enlisés, ainsi que des pistes interdites aux minibus (non 4x4 je présume ?). Si les gnous migrent vers la partie nord de l'écosystème du Serengeti, au Kenya, à Masai Mara, une des raisons principales, c'est qu'il y pleut plus en été (le nôtre) qu'en Tanzanie, des pluies courtes le plus souvent mais violentes et qui laissent des fondrières ... Et il n'y a pas que la boue, le porte-à-faux plus important interdit le franchissement de certains gués avec des roches (notamment sur la Talek) où un 4x4 se contente (...) de taper un peu de l'arrière là où un minibus resterait coincé.

À Mara en septembre
À Mara en juinEt puis, surtout, je suis d'accord avec Sylvie, que ce soit du snobisme ou pas, on perd une partie du plaisir, on s'éloigne du mythe du Out of Africa, de l'idée que l'on se fait du Safari avec un grand S...
Alors sacrifier un peu d'espace, de confort, de shillings avec un 4x4 ou sacrifier avec un minibus allure, capacités de franchir (presque) tous les obstacles et d'aller (presque) partout ? Un choix personnel...
Bonne journée, bonne réflexion et
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
Bonjour,
J'étais dans le Masai Mara en janvier-février 2019, et je n'y ai vu aucun minibus.
Je suis d'ailleurs étonné qu'on puisse proposer une telle solution, tant elle me paraît incompatible avec le terrain, les franchissements, et l'approche des animaux...
Bonjour,
Si vous étiez dans le Mara et que vous n'avez pas vu de minibus c'est que vous êtes restés dans un secteur bien particulier de cette réserve......
J'y suis allée à plusieurs reprises (la dernière fois en juillet 2018 dans le secteur de la Talek) et j'y ai toujours vu de (très) nombreux minibus comme dans tous les autres parcs au Kenya d'ailleurs.
Sincèrement pour les personnes aillant un budget serré l'option minibus peut permettre de faire tout de même un beau safari. Certains franchissements seront déconseillés effectivement mais l'approche des animaux sera tout de même possible ( le hors piste étant de toute façon interdit et dangereux pour la faune).
Bonjour Sylvie , Bernard et les autres,
J-6
En Tanzanie en Février 2017, fortes pluies et pistes défoncées, nombreux guets. coté Franchissement un minibus n'avait dans ces conditions là aucune chance de passer que ce soit au Tarangire , Serengeti ou le Cratère, voir même Arusha NP. Mais il est vrai les minibus dans les parcs Tanzanien sont assez rares. Un minibus au Kenya pourquoi pas mais à condition que le terrain s'y prête parfaitement . Cette contrainte en impose une autre celle d'aller faire son safari à certaine période ou dans des zones limitées. Un 4x4 c'est la sécurité, un bonus d'insouciance, de liberté et d'aventure en prime.
Cordialement à tous
Cordialement à tous
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I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
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I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
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I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
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Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!