Syrie-Jordanie en 4x4
by Nanouk
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je pars en 4x4 le 2 juillet pour la Syrie et la Jordanie.
Peut-on payer la taxe d'entrée des véhicules en euros ( et pas en dollars)?
Quelqu'un a-t-il des points GPS d'itinéraires sympas dans ces pays ?
Salaam !
Ouais, faut surtout pas rater le 34°23'17"-N - 17°13'27"E - C'est fantastique !!!
Et le p'tit restau 33°17'11"N - 18°11'59"E - Un régal !!!
Et paye la taxe d'entrée des véhicules, (qui n'existe pas) en dinars Irakiens, comme ça l'Etat Syrien pourra importer du pétrole pas cher directement d'Irak en contrebande 😛. Ou le douanier s'empocher un bon Bakshish sur votre dos 😄😄😄😄
Bon voyage, et n'oublie pas le cyber-dico Français - Arabe, parce que quand vous sortirez des axes routiers principaux, adieu les panneaux écrits en Latin.
Baraka alaoufik - Ce qui signifie : "la chance sur vous"
Beub
PS : C'est pour quoi le 4x4 ??? Les axes routiers même mineurs sont corrects. J'ai parcouru la Syrie du nord au sud et d'est en ouest en 2 roues motrices et ça passe partout.
Ouais, faut surtout pas rater le 34°23'17"-N - 17°13'27"E - C'est fantastique !!!
Et le p'tit restau 33°17'11"N - 18°11'59"E - Un régal !!!
Et paye la taxe d'entrée des véhicules, (qui n'existe pas) en dinars Irakiens, comme ça l'Etat Syrien pourra importer du pétrole pas cher directement d'Irak en contrebande 😛. Ou le douanier s'empocher un bon Bakshish sur votre dos 😄😄😄😄
Bon voyage, et n'oublie pas le cyber-dico Français - Arabe, parce que quand vous sortirez des axes routiers principaux, adieu les panneaux écrits en Latin.
Baraka alaoufik - Ce qui signifie : "la chance sur vous"
Beub
PS : C'est pour quoi le 4x4 ??? Les axes routiers même mineurs sont corrects. J'ai parcouru la Syrie du nord au sud et d'est en ouest en 2 roues motrices et ça passe partout.
"J'AI BESOIN DU LOIN" - Marius - Marcel Pagnol
Bon, ironie...
J'avais envie de répondre dans le même genre, mais on allait encore me dire que je me moquais, alors...
Pour la taxe, elle n'existe peut-etre pas officiellement, mais je doute que ça se passe sans encombre à la frontière, quand même...
Par contre c'est vrai, le 4x4 ne sert à rien...
Tiens, ramenez moi quelques dinars Irakiens, on en vend devant le forum à Amman...
Michel
J'avais envie de répondre dans le même genre, mais on allait encore me dire que je me moquais, alors...
Pour la taxe, elle n'existe peut-etre pas officiellement, mais je doute que ça se passe sans encombre à la frontière, quand même...
Par contre c'est vrai, le 4x4 ne sert à rien...
Tiens, ramenez moi quelques dinars Irakiens, on en vend devant le forum à Amman...
Michel
Pour passer sans problème la frontière, ça m'avait couté 5 paquets de Marlboro ... c'est fou comme tout s'est alors accéléré 😏😏😏 ...
Tiens, un petit aperçu de mon périple publié sur ce site : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=14064;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread
S'il y a des question un peu plus pertinentes, j'y répondrais volontiers 😉
Beub
Tiens, un petit aperçu de mon périple publié sur ce site : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=14064;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread
S'il y a des question un peu plus pertinentes, j'y répondrais volontiers 😉
Beub
"J'AI BESOIN DU LOIN" - Marius - Marcel Pagnol
Après vérification sur la carte, il doit y avoir une erreur car ces points ne se situent pas Syrie.
A propos de la taxe d'entrée je voudrais savoir à quelle date vous êtes entré en Syrie avec votre propre véhicule diésel depuis la Turquie.
Avez-vous des points GPS pour rallier le Wadi Rum à Aquaba par les pistes en Jordanie ?
Merci
Il persiste ... Il signe ... et surtout ... il nous fait bien marrer 😄😏😄😏😄
Merci Nanouk !!!
Merci Nanouk !!!
"J'AI BESOIN DU LOIN" - Marius - Marcel Pagnol
je recherche des infos précises pour les passages des frontières (possibilité de visas à la frontière? ou au consulat ): Turquie- Syrie, Syrie- Jordanie , il parait qu'il faut s'acquiter d'une taxe sur le diesel? Jordanie- Egypte, Egypte- Soudan, Soudan- Ethiopie , Ethiopie- Kenya. Le point délicat semble être le passage Jordanie- Egypte, si l'on passe par la route il y a le tampon d'Israel qui va me bloquer pour les pays suivants (😠 Soudan ) même sil je me fait tamponner sur une fiche séparée le poste d'entrée va figurer sur le passeport, il faut donc emprunter le ferry. Pour Egypte- Soudan, peut on emprunter la route jusqu'à la frontière ou ferry obligatoire sur la lac et à quel prix? le passage le long de la mer rouge est il envisageable? Le second passage problématique semble la frontière du kenya à Moyale, y a t'il un autre passage vers le lac Turkana. Je remercie d'avance 😊 ceux qui ont voyagé ds ces régions et qui peuvent me donner leurs avis sur le prix du diesel ( Syrie , Jordanie, Egypte, Soudan, Ethiopie , ) sur les pistes, les formalités, les points craignos, enfin tt renseignements susceptibles de m'éviter
Gab
Va voir ma réponse sur la discussion:
Voyage Turquie - Syrie - Liban - Jordanie en 4x4
Pour l'histoire des tampons Israëliens, on dit beaucoup de choses...
Si tu as ton visas pour le Soudan avant d'entrer en Israël, on dit aussi qu'à la frontière soudanaise, ils ne sont pas aussi zélés que dans les bureaux des ambassades. Si de surcroît, tu as beaucoup de tampons sur ton passeport, ils ne vont pas s'amuser à vérifier toutes les dates et toutes les entrées et sorties. Mais le risque existe.
Nous on entre en Egypte après Israël et on enverra la voiture par cargo d'Aqaba vers la Dar es Salaam. On peut aussi envoyer au Kenya, c'est possible.
A partir de la Jordanie, le ferry existe entre Aqaba et l'Egypte. Donc en prenant le ferry pas de problèmes avec les tampons, les dates etc... si l'on passe par Israël.
Il faut se renseigner par contre sur le passage Egypte-Soudan. Je ne sais pas non plus s'il est facile en ce moment d'avoir le visa Soudanais. Depuis que la Cour Internationale a délivré un mandat d'Arrêt contre le Président Soudanais, le pays est en train d'expulser les occidentaux et souhaite même que les humanitaires aient quitté le Soudan d'ici un an. Alors, se faire délivrer un visa dans ce contexte ne doit pas être évident. Mais là, je n'ai pas plus d'infos. En plus, quelquefois tout dépend de la nationalité... pour l'Iran nous avons eu nos visas en Turquie sans trop de problèmes en 3 semaines. On a rencontré 2 groupes d'Anglais, les uns ont demandé 2 fois et ont essuyé 2 refus en 3 mois, les autres ont dû demander 7 fois pour qu'enfin ils finissent par l'obtenir... Et à chaque demande tu paies...
Voilà, si d'autres questions n'hésite pas... Igor
Il faut se renseigner par contre sur le passage Egypte-Soudan. Je ne sais pas non plus s'il est facile en ce moment d'avoir le visa Soudanais. Depuis que la Cour Internationale a délivré un mandat d'Arrêt contre le Président Soudanais, le pays est en train d'expulser les occidentaux et souhaite même que les humanitaires aient quitté le Soudan d'ici un an. Alors, se faire délivrer un visa dans ce contexte ne doit pas être évident. Mais là, je n'ai pas plus d'infos. En plus, quelquefois tout dépend de la nationalité... pour l'Iran nous avons eu nos visas en Turquie sans trop de problèmes en 3 semaines. On a rencontré 2 groupes d'Anglais, les uns ont demandé 2 fois et ont essuyé 2 refus en 3 mois, les autres ont dû demander 7 fois pour qu'enfin ils finissent par l'obtenir... Et à chaque demande tu paies...
Voilà, si d'autres questions n'hésite pas... Igor
Bonjour,
Même s'il ne concerne que l'Afrique, Bradt publie "Africa Overland" qui donne pas mal d'infos et de pistes pour un voyage...overland...
L'entrée au Soudan se fait par le lac. A priori, vous êtes touriste, aurez demandé le visa touristique et visiterez les zones qui sont autorisées pour les touristes! CPI ou pas, si vous avez le visa, il n'y aura pas de soucis. Pour rappel, les zones problématiques demandent des permis spécifiques. Je vous souhaite bonne chance (et bcp de patience) pour les avoir!
Jef974 est un des derniers à l'avoir emprunté mais dans l'autre sens (non véhiculé) ou vous pourriez contacter la famille Sanagustin qui est passé par là il y a quelques mois, avec un camping-car adapté.
http://sanagustinvoyage.canalblog.com/ miguelodie@hotmail.fr
Je ne sais en dire plus. J'ai voyagé dans la région mais comme "piéton" et toujours pour des voyages distincts, sans passages de frontières terrestres
Michel
Même s'il ne concerne que l'Afrique, Bradt publie "Africa Overland" qui donne pas mal d'infos et de pistes pour un voyage...overland...
L'entrée au Soudan se fait par le lac. A priori, vous êtes touriste, aurez demandé le visa touristique et visiterez les zones qui sont autorisées pour les touristes! CPI ou pas, si vous avez le visa, il n'y aura pas de soucis. Pour rappel, les zones problématiques demandent des permis spécifiques. Je vous souhaite bonne chance (et bcp de patience) pour les avoir!
Jef974 est un des derniers à l'avoir emprunté mais dans l'autre sens (non véhiculé) ou vous pourriez contacter la famille Sanagustin qui est passé par là il y a quelques mois, avec un camping-car adapté.
http://sanagustinvoyage.canalblog.com/ miguelodie@hotmail.fr
Je ne sais en dire plus. J'ai voyagé dans la région mais comme "piéton" et toujours pour des voyages distincts, sans passages de frontières terrestres
Michel
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Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Thanks for your tips! Penlan
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi. Do you have any rental companies to recommend? The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Thanks for your tips! Penlan
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
Hi there,
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !






