Quel aéroport fonctionne à Bangkok?
by Homer13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
nous partons le 19 pour bkk, finalement nous quel aéroport fonctionne à ce jour, pour notre arriver aucun problèmes car nous passons 3 nuits sur bangkok mais ensuite départ pour le laos et sur notre retour nous avons une correspondance à bkk entre le laos et phuket. Savez vous si il ont transférer tout les vols où simplement certaine compagnie car mon transfert se fait avec air asia ?
en principe Air Asia continue ses vols sur le nouvel aéroport je crois nbien, donc pas de soucis mais il est vrai que en ce mment, c'est le flou artistique, meme l'aeroport de Pattaya voit quelques vols detourner ....
le mieux c'est que tu prennes contact avec la compagnie aerienne qui te donnera le renseignement (normalement !)😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
je suis arrive ce matin de chiang mai a bangkok sans probleme.au nouvel aeroport
max24😎
Seul le nouvel aéroport fonctionne.
Comme vous parlez de Laos et de Phuket vous serez toujours au nouvel aéroport car les vols internationaux y resteront AINSI QUE LES VOLS à destinations de Phuket, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai vu le nombre important de gens en provenance des vols internationaux et à destiation de ces cités.
Donc ... cool
Comme vous parlez de Laos et de Phuket vous serez toujours au nouvel aéroport car les vols internationaux y resteront AINSI QUE LES VOLS à destinations de Phuket, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai vu le nombre important de gens en provenance des vols internationaux et à destiation de ces cités.
Donc ... cool
Seul le nouvel aéroport fonctionne.
Comme vous parlez de Laos et de Phuket vous serez toujours au nouvel aéroport car les vols internationaux y resteront AINSI QUE LES VOLS à destinations de Phuket, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai vu le nombre important de gens en provenance des vols internationaux et à destiation de ces cités.
Donc ... cool
je confirme, c' est Suvarnabhumi qui fonctionne. il est question de rouvrir Don Muang, peut-etre deja la semaine prochaine (?) mais pour certains vols domestiques seulement. en tout cas c' est ce que j' ai compris en posant quelques questions hier meme (pris un vol de Suv. a Chiang Rai avec Air Asia, et je n' etais pas sur, d' ou questions).
Comme vous parlez de Laos et de Phuket vous serez toujours au nouvel aéroport car les vols internationaux y resteront AINSI QUE LES VOLS à destinations de Phuket, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai vu le nombre important de gens en provenance des vols internationaux et à destiation de ces cités.
Donc ... cool
je confirme, c' est Suvarnabhumi qui fonctionne. il est question de rouvrir Don Muang, peut-etre deja la semaine prochaine (?) mais pour certains vols domestiques seulement. en tout cas c' est ce que j' ai compris en posant quelques questions hier meme (pris un vol de Suv. a Chiang Rai avec Air Asia, et je n' etais pas sur, d' ou questions).
Salut,
nous partons le 19 pour bkk, finalement nous quel aéroport fonctionne à ce jour,
Dans les medias nationaux, les autorites thailandaises ont declare que l'ancien aeroport de Don Muang pourrait etre ouvert en mars ou avril ! A moins que de nouveaux problemes serieux interviennent entre temps ? Donc pour le mois de fevrier, les departs et les arrivees sont toujours assures depuis Suvarnabhumi...
Dans les medias nationaux, les autorites thailandaises ont declare que l'ancien aeroport de Don Muang pourrait etre ouvert en mars ou avril ! A moins que de nouveaux problemes serieux interviennent entre temps ? Donc pour le mois de fevrier, les departs et les arrivees sont toujours assures depuis Suvarnabhumi...
Au dernières nouvelles (2 févirer)
A partir du 15 mars (à confirmer):
Suvarnabhumi Tous les vols internationaux Vols intérieurs THAI vers Phuket et Chiang Mai Tous les vols Air Asia
Don Muang Vols intérieurs Thai Airways, Bangkok Airways, Nok Air et Orient Thai
A partir du 15 mars (à confirmer):
Suvarnabhumi Tous les vols internationaux Vols intérieurs THAI vers Phuket et Chiang Mai Tous les vols Air Asia
Don Muang Vols intérieurs Thai Airways, Bangkok Airways, Nok Air et Orient Thai
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Thibaut
Désolé thv2001be,
Le mot important dans ton message est a confirmer. Parce que pour l'instant au 5 février, rien n'est décidé, et meme rien n'a été proposé au gouvernement. L'ouverture de Dom Muang est gelé, est ca c'est officiel, de la part du Ministre des Transports qui souhaite mener des études d'impact complémentaires, avant de proposer un éventuel plan.
Nous n'en sommes donc meme pas aux propositions de réouverture, donc je ne vois pas ce qui autorise a annoncer sur VF, des projets qui n'ont meme pas été proposés au gouvernement. Essayez au moins de citer vos sources, et d'éviter de semer la panique chez les voyageurs, parce que les messages d'affolement se multiplient sur différents forums, et ce n'est pas leur rendre service que d'annoncer des faux "scoops", surtout si tu n'en es pas sur.
Article: "Don Muang reopening put on hold" Bangkok post dans les breaking news du lundi 5 Février 2007
Le mot important dans ton message est a confirmer. Parce que pour l'instant au 5 février, rien n'est décidé, et meme rien n'a été proposé au gouvernement. L'ouverture de Dom Muang est gelé, est ca c'est officiel, de la part du Ministre des Transports qui souhaite mener des études d'impact complémentaires, avant de proposer un éventuel plan.
Nous n'en sommes donc meme pas aux propositions de réouverture, donc je ne vois pas ce qui autorise a annoncer sur VF, des projets qui n'ont meme pas été proposés au gouvernement. Essayez au moins de citer vos sources, et d'éviter de semer la panique chez les voyageurs, parce que les messages d'affolement se multiplient sur différents forums, et ce n'est pas leur rendre service que d'annoncer des faux "scoops", surtout si tu n'en es pas sur.
Article: "Don Muang reopening put on hold" Bangkok post dans les breaking news du lundi 5 Février 2007
Essayez au moins de citer vos sources, et d'éviter de semer la panique chez les voyageurs, parce que les messages d'affolement se multiplient sur différents forums, et ce n'est pas leur rendre service que d'annoncer des faux "scoops"...
Article: "Don Muang reopening put on hold" Bangkok post dans les breaking news du lundi 5 Février 2007
je me suis permis de mettre ceci la semaine derniere : "les autorites thailandaises ont declare que l'ancien aeroport de Don Muang pourrait etre ouvert en mars ou avril ! A moins que de nouveaux problemes serieux interviennent entre temps ?"
Declaration en direct du ministre competent devant les medias locaux...
Et si l'ont ne peut pas nier que les responsables se trouvent plutot tres embarrasses devant cette situation. Il ne faudrait peut etre pas oublier que d'ordinaire, ces derniers n'ont pas vraiment l'habitude de devoir se justifier en public pour des "problemes delicats a l'interieurs du pays". Meme concernant un aeroport de niveau international !
Cependant, ne vous emballez pas car de toute facon que se soit l'un ou l'autre, vous arriverez et vous repartirez... 😉
Article: "Don Muang reopening put on hold" Bangkok post dans les breaking news du lundi 5 Février 2007
je me suis permis de mettre ceci la semaine derniere : "les autorites thailandaises ont declare que l'ancien aeroport de Don Muang pourrait etre ouvert en mars ou avril ! A moins que de nouveaux problemes serieux interviennent entre temps ?"
Declaration en direct du ministre competent devant les medias locaux...
Et si l'ont ne peut pas nier que les responsables se trouvent plutot tres embarrasses devant cette situation. Il ne faudrait peut etre pas oublier que d'ordinaire, ces derniers n'ont pas vraiment l'habitude de devoir se justifier en public pour des "problemes delicats a l'interieurs du pays". Meme concernant un aeroport de niveau international !
Cependant, ne vous emballez pas car de toute facon que se soit l'un ou l'autre, vous arriverez et vous repartirez... 😉
Je suis rentré hier et toutes les informations que je fournis ici proviennent des journaux locaux (The Nation et Bangkok Post + journal télévisé de Channel 11) en date du 3 février 2007. Désolé s'il y a eu des changements entre temps mais je viens de reprendre le boulot et n'ai pas eu le temps de vérifier la presse locale.
Tout ce que je peux dire de plus, c'est qu'Air Asia n'a pas l'intention de déménager vers Don Muang et continuera à opérer depuis Suvarnabhumi en cas de réouverture de Don Muang.
Tout au long de mon séjour, Suvarnabhumi était un centre d'intérêt important dans les médias locaux: fissures dans les taxiways et les pistes, fermeture temporaire et détournement de 4 vols vers U-Tapao, sondage de piliers à la recherche de cadavres enfouis, rupture de la canalisation des sanitaires au niveau 3 et inondation du niveau 2, perte de sa certification, problèmes électriques, ...
Tout au long de mon séjour, Suvarnabhumi était un centre d'intérêt important dans les médias locaux: fissures dans les taxiways et les pistes, fermeture temporaire et détournement de 4 vols vers U-Tapao, sondage de piliers à la recherche de cadavres enfouis, rupture de la canalisation des sanitaires au niveau 3 et inondation du niveau 2, perte de sa certification, problèmes électriques, ...
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Thibaut
Pourtant, c'est une histoire qui a fait beaucoup de bruits dans les journaux locaux (surtout ceux en langue thaï) et j'en avais entendu parler il y a quelques semaines déjà...
J'ai vu le reportage (en Thaï 🤪) sur Channel 7 (ca devait être aux alentours du 21 janvier). Ils sondaient un pillier suspect à l'aide de radars. Et évidemment, ils n'ont rien trouvé.
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Thibaut
On en parle ici; il y a une photo du pillier en question (article du 11 novembre)
http://suvarnabhumi-tales.blogspot.com/
J'ai oublié un point sur les soudures de l'armature métallique... Voir article ci-dessous. http://www.bangkokpost.net/280107_Perspective/28Jan2007_pers007.php
J'ai oublié un point sur les soudures de l'armature métallique... Voir article ci-dessous. http://www.bangkokpost.net/280107_Perspective/28Jan2007_pers007.php
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Thibaut
La situation semblerait préoccupante ...
Le nouvel aéroport semblerait se dégrader si je comprends bien sur plusieurs points vitales pour un bon fonctionnement et surtout sécurité !
Attendons la suite, le feuilleton commence tout juste, il va y en avoir des épisodes ...
Si d'autres pistes se fissures dans les mois à venir cela rique de devenir un gros probléme à résoudre .
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
La source SVP car cela je n'ai jamais entendu parler dans quelque presse que ce soit ici !
Le feuilleton des rumeurs en tout genre va bon train...
Avant meme le debut les travaux, certains voyaient deja un mauvais presage du fait de la presence d'esprits sur les lieux qu'ils ne fallaient pas deranger ?
Aujourd'hui, on pourrait considérer que l'objectif principal du gouvernement est plutot de lancer les accusations en direction de l'investigateur de ce nouvel aéroport. C'est-a-dire l'ennemi public numero 1, l'ex-premier ministre Thaksin Shinawatra évincé du pouvoir en septembre 2006.
Alors depuis, le mot corruption lui est attribué a tous les verbes et conjugués a tous les temps...
Le feuilleton des rumeurs en tout genre va bon train...
Avant meme le debut les travaux, certains voyaient deja un mauvais presage du fait de la presence d'esprits sur les lieux qu'ils ne fallaient pas deranger ?
Aujourd'hui, on pourrait considérer que l'objectif principal du gouvernement est plutot de lancer les accusations en direction de l'investigateur de ce nouvel aéroport. C'est-a-dire l'ennemi public numero 1, l'ex-premier ministre Thaksin Shinawatra évincé du pouvoir en septembre 2006.
Alors depuis, le mot corruption lui est attribué a tous les verbes et conjugués a tous les temps...
bonjour.je suis un peu inquiéte car nous arrivons a bkk le 5/03 versmidi et nous devons repartir vers hat yai dans l'aprés midi devrons nous changer d'aéroport?merci
Bonjour,
Ne t'inquiètes pas sur place en cas de changement tu seras très bien informer par le personnel thaïs et avec le sourire en plus .
Bonjour,
Ne t'inquiètes pas sur place en cas de changement tu seras très bien informer par le personnel thaïs et avec le sourire en plus .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
sondage de piliers à la recherche de cadavres enfouis
Faut quand même pas faire d'amalgames foireux. Quel est le rapport entre cette sordide affaire de moeurs du mois de novembre au cours de laquelle une femme a été violée et assassinée ET les problèmes de l'aéroport ?
Faut pas non plus faire dans le sensationnalisme car avec votre "il y a une photo du pillier en question (article du 11 novembre) " qui est au singulier, vous écrivez dans votre poste initial pilierS et cadavreS le tout au pluriel !
Après cela on s'étonne, comme dans ce post, que des gens sont inquiets de venir ici à Bangkok !
Jusqu'à preuve du contraire il n'y a pas encore de morceaux d'aérogare qui s'écroulent comme à Roissy et il n'y a pas encore eu d'attaques à main armées comme à l'aéroport de Bruxelles.
Faut quand même pas faire d'amalgames foireux. Quel est le rapport entre cette sordide affaire de moeurs du mois de novembre au cours de laquelle une femme a été violée et assassinée ET les problèmes de l'aéroport ?
Faut pas non plus faire dans le sensationnalisme car avec votre "il y a une photo du pillier en question (article du 11 novembre) " qui est au singulier, vous écrivez dans votre poste initial pilierS et cadavreS le tout au pluriel !
Après cela on s'étonne, comme dans ce post, que des gens sont inquiets de venir ici à Bangkok !
Jusqu'à preuve du contraire il n'y a pas encore de morceaux d'aérogare qui s'écroulent comme à Roissy et il n'y a pas encore eu d'attaques à main armées comme à l'aéroport de Bruxelles.
Tout doux, tu vas faire un ulcer... 😉
Tu dois lire la presse nationale comme moi j'ai lu le Bangkok Post pendant des semaines et tu dois te rendre compte que les attaques de la presse envers l'aéroport sont quotidiennes; c'est tout ce que je voulais signaler dans mon post. Alors bon, pour les 2 maleureux "s" que j'ai laissé trainer.... Je suis encore plein jet lag, ne l'oublies pas 😛
Comme je crois l'avoir dit, le reportage sur le pillier était sur une chaine thaï. Bon c'est vrai que je n'ai pas compris grand chose et que ma copine m'a expliqué en détails ce qu'ils disaient et si mes souvenirs sont bons, les rumeurs parlaient de deux corps de femmes. Le pilier examiné était celui suspecté d'abriter un corps, mais si j'ai bien compris, d'autres ont été passé aux cribles. En voyant les images, je me suis souvenu de cette histoire peut-être sur ce forum d'ailleurs. Les thaïs qui sont très superstitieux font eux l'amalgame entre les événements (les fissures, les pannes de courant et la rupture des canalisations) et les esprits qui hantent les lieux. Ma copine n'était pas très rassurée à l'idée d'atterrir à Suvarnabhumi.
Si les avions sont trop lourds pour le revêtement actuel, qu'est-ce que ça va donner avec l'A380.🏴☠️
Bon bref, moi ça ne m'a pas inquiété de venir à Bangkok et le but n'était pas de flanquer la trouille aux gens.
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Thibaut
Je suis encore plein jet lag,
dis donc cachotier, tu étais parti ????????? ou ?????? dis tout, ou on t'envoi, ton compatriote pour te faire parler, dont j'ai oublié le nom, mais que vous avez affublè de celui d'une saucisse 😏😏
dis donc cachotier, tu étais parti ????????? ou ?????? dis tout, ou on t'envoi, ton compatriote pour te faire parler, dont j'ai oublié le nom, mais que vous avez affublè de celui d'une saucisse 😏😏
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tout doux : oui, effectivement il faut faire attention avant d'écrire et garder mesure. Les S ont une incidence certaine sur l'interprétation des choses.
Bon bref, moi ça ne m'a pas inquiété de venir à Bangkok et le but n'était pas de flanquer la trouille aux gens.
Il suffit de regarder après ton post initial, il y a eu directement quelque'un qui c'est manifesté pour dire son inquiétude.
Il est normal de parler des problèmes mais il faut garder mesure. Ce n'est pas à nous d'amplifier les choses inutilement. C'est tout. D'autant qu'il y a déjà assez de contre-vérités sur ce forum 😉😉😉😉😉
Bon bref, moi ça ne m'a pas inquiété de venir à Bangkok et le but n'était pas de flanquer la trouille aux gens.
Il suffit de regarder après ton post initial, il y a eu directement quelque'un qui c'est manifesté pour dire son inquiétude.
Il est normal de parler des problèmes mais il faut garder mesure. Ce n'est pas à nous d'amplifier les choses inutilement. C'est tout. D'autant qu'il y a déjà assez de contre-vérités sur ce forum 😉😉😉😉😉
Eh, oui, je suis revenu:
Bon voici mon itinéraire pour ce qui fut mon 17ème voyage en Thaïlande:
Bangkok 2 nuits Nakhon Sawan (et environs) + visite à Sukhothai: 4 nuits Pattaya: 3 nuits Koh Samet: 4 nuits Koh Chang: 4 nuits Bangkok: 4 nuits
J'écrirai un post plus complet sur mon voyage avec des photos mais bon, j'ai besoin de récupérer un peu.
Bangkok 2 nuits Nakhon Sawan (et environs) + visite à Sukhothai: 4 nuits Pattaya: 3 nuits Koh Samet: 4 nuits Koh Chang: 4 nuits Bangkok: 4 nuits
J'écrirai un post plus complet sur mon voyage avec des photos mais bon, j'ai besoin de récupérer un peu.
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Thibaut
Sans rancune. 😉 Sur place, les infos sont contradictoires et on ne sait qui croire. Pour certains experts, les fissures sont naturelles et sans danger; pour d'autres, elles sont la preuve d'un revêtement inadéquat et sont inquéitantes. Il n'empêche que les thais ont décidé de ne plus procéder aux réparations sans connaître la cause exacte du phénomène. Si c'était si grave que ça, je crois qu'ils auraient admis leur erreur, appliqué le plan B et seraient retournés à Don Muang depuis longtemps déjà. Mais la politique actuelle est plutôt de discréditer Thaksin aux yeux des thaïs; quitte à être la risée aux yeux du monde. J'espère cependant qu'à force de le critiquer, ils ne vont pas totalement discréditer ce magnifique ouvrage qu'est Suvarnabhumi, même s'il a des défauts.
Pour le reste, les faits sont là: la rupture de la canalisation des WC et l'innondation du hall des arrivées; ce qui m'a bien fait rire vu que les toilettes ont été déjà tant de fois critiquées.
Pour passer à autre chose, les travaux de liaison du train rapide suspendu vers l'aéroport ainsi que les extensions du Skytrain sont déjà bien avancés. Tout va très vite là bas. La plupart des piliers sont déjà en place. Certains piliers du projet Hopewell ont été utilisés.
Pour le reste, les faits sont là: la rupture de la canalisation des WC et l'innondation du hall des arrivées; ce qui m'a bien fait rire vu que les toilettes ont été déjà tant de fois critiquées.
Pour passer à autre chose, les travaux de liaison du train rapide suspendu vers l'aéroport ainsi que les extensions du Skytrain sont déjà bien avancés. Tout va très vite là bas. La plupart des piliers sont déjà en place. Certains piliers du projet Hopewell ont été utilisés.
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Thibaut
Je suis content de reprendre le travail pour me reposer un peu 😛
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Thibaut
Sans rancune ? Mais bien entendu, il n'y a pas de raison.
Infos contradictires ? Et oui et donc raison de plus de faire attention aux infos communiquées (et ceci s'adresse à tout le monde). Inutile d'en rajouter.
Il n'y a pas que le cas "taksin" il y a aussi cette terrible notion de "ne pas perdre la face" qui joue et fait des dégâts. Les têtes commencent à tombezr, et il est temps car l'image de la Thaïlande souffre de plus en plus et les thaïs commencent à s'en rendre compte.
Pour le reste, oui les travaux progressent et j'ai l'occasion de le voir lors de mes déplacements vers BKK (comme j'habite pas loin ...)
Infos contradictires ? Et oui et donc raison de plus de faire attention aux infos communiquées (et ceci s'adresse à tout le monde). Inutile d'en rajouter.
Il n'y a pas que le cas "taksin" il y a aussi cette terrible notion de "ne pas perdre la face" qui joue et fait des dégâts. Les têtes commencent à tombezr, et il est temps car l'image de la Thaïlande souffre de plus en plus et les thaïs commencent à s'en rendre compte.
Pour le reste, oui les travaux progressent et j'ai l'occasion de le voir lors de mes déplacements vers BKK (comme j'habite pas loin ...)
C'est officiel maintenant, Don Muang va réouvrir de façon permanente.
La date d'ouverture n'est pas encore précisée mais on parle de 45 à 60 jours.
Voir article du Bangkok Post. http://bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=116598
Voir article du Bangkok Post. http://bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=116598
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Thibaut
Dans l'article du Bangkok Post de ce jour 6 Février, page 5 il est clairement indiqué que les décisions seront prises lorsque l'on connaîtra exactement les travaux ... à faire
Nulle part il n'est fait mention de 45 à 60 jours !
Arrêtons de spéculer à la place des membres du gouvernement ThAï et des responsables d'AOT (Airport of Thailand). Cela devient de la désinformation.
Arrêtons de spéculer à la place des membres du gouvernement ThAï et des responsables d'AOT (Airport of Thailand). Cela devient de la désinformation.
Je n'invente rien! La désinformation, il la font eux même !!!
L'article publié sur leur site web (breaking news de ce jour) mentionne l'ouverture de Don Muang dans les 45 suivant l'établissement du plan de réouverture (qui doit être décidé durant les 2 prochaines semaines).
The Nation n'annonce pas de date par contre: http://nationmultimedia.com/2007/02/06/headlines/headlines_30026114.php
The Nation n'annonce pas de date par contre: http://nationmultimedia.com/2007/02/06/headlines/headlines_30026114.php
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Thibaut
Santé – La Thaïlande promeut le générique.-
L’opaque "Thaksinocratie" a beau avoir disparue, on entend encore tout et son contraire à propos des fameuses craquelures du tarmac de Suvarnabhumi découvertes il y a un an et demi. Samedi, par exemple, experts et professionnels des compagnies aériennes interrogés par le Bangkok Post se voulaient plutôt rassurants. "Tout va bien" semblaient-ils dire. Alors que The Nation était beaucoup moins optimiste, évoquant la visite surprise sur le tarmac d’une équipe du Premier Ministre. "Les craquelures semblent dangereuses", aurait affirmé un responsable présenté comme l’expert thaïlandais des surfaces aéroportuaires. Dans le même article, le vice-président de l’association de l’ingénierie de Thaïlande, suggére finalement de faire appel à des experts indépendants – donc étrangers – pour trancher sur la question car selon lui, il est trop difficile de trouver un ingénieur thaï qui ne soit pas impliqué dans le projet de construction de l’aéroport! (www.lepetitjournal.com - Bangkok) 5 février 2007
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Et c'est tellement confus cette histoire d'aéroports un jour un journal dit ça en autre journal dit ceci etc....
Donc le mieux c'est d'attendre et voir plus clair d'ici fin février ou début mars .
Donc le mieux c'est d'attendre et voir plus clair d'ici fin février ou début mars .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
C'est bien exact Barbot, et bien d'autres rumeurs circulent aussi.
Cela doit nous inciter à beaucoup, beaucoup de prudence dans des reprises d'infos.
D'ici peu nous verrons que les déclarations du Roi il y a 3 - 4 ans étaient non seulement bien vues, bien pensées mais aussi le fruit d'une excellente analyse de la situation de ces anciens marais.
De toute façon, à quoi sert de s'amuser à continuellement, jour après jour, répertorier, inventorier, répéter sans cesse les problèmes de cet aéroport. Il est jeune, doit faire sa maladie (voulue ou non) et cela n'empêche pas des MILLIONS de passager de l'utiliser à leur plus grande satisfaction.
Alors ce jeu des soi-disant "amoureux" de la Thaïlande qui ne cesse de la dénigrer, de mettre continuellement en avant les même problèmes ... alors là je comprend plus. Que l 'on aille en discuter sur un forum de politique thaï OK, mais pas dans du "voyage"
De toute façon, à quoi sert de s'amuser à continuellement, jour après jour, répertorier, inventorier, répéter sans cesse les problèmes de cet aéroport. Il est jeune, doit faire sa maladie (voulue ou non) et cela n'empêche pas des MILLIONS de passager de l'utiliser à leur plus grande satisfaction.
Alors ce jeu des soi-disant "amoureux" de la Thaïlande qui ne cesse de la dénigrer, de mettre continuellement en avant les même problèmes ... alors là je comprend plus. Que l 'on aille en discuter sur un forum de politique thaï OK, mais pas dans du "voyage"
les messages d'affolement se multiplient sur différents forums
n'y va pas... Je vais peut-être paraître inconsciente, mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi les gens paniquent lorsqu'on parle de fermeture/réouverture éventuelle de l'un ou l'autre aéroport. Mis à part ceux qui voyagent pour leur boulot et qui ont des réunions importantes programmées, ce sont quand même les VACANCESpour la plupart...
Au fig. État d'un esprit libre, disponible. Point de souci, point de lendemain, point de pression intérieure; mais une sorte de repos dans l'absence, une vacance bienfaisante, qui rend l'esprit à sa liberté propre (VALÉRY, Variété III, 1936, p. 267).
Mai pen rai ...😉😉😉
n'y va pas... Je vais peut-être paraître inconsciente, mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi les gens paniquent lorsqu'on parle de fermeture/réouverture éventuelle de l'un ou l'autre aéroport. Mis à part ceux qui voyagent pour leur boulot et qui ont des réunions importantes programmées, ce sont quand même les VACANCESpour la plupart...
Au fig. État d'un esprit libre, disponible. Point de souci, point de lendemain, point de pression intérieure; mais une sorte de repos dans l'absence, une vacance bienfaisante, qui rend l'esprit à sa liberté propre (VALÉRY, Variété III, 1936, p. 267).
Mai pen rai ...😉😉😉
Vous remarquerez que j'ai tranformé quelque peu le titre du post car....
Bangkok will have two international airports
🙂🙂 They are the champions!
Et oui! Comment ne pas perdre la face? C'est tout simple, on réouvre Don Muang en laissant le nouvel aéroport toujours ouvert (enfin, dans un premier temps...) Lire la suite de ce passionnant feuilleton ici: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=105200
Ce très cher forum anglais reprend les infos du journal "The Nation" ; infos en anglais ; bonben ceux qui ne savent pas lire l'anglais n'ont plus qu'à retourner à l'école😉 ;
C'est le Premier ministre qui l'a dit ...
cclub75 nous livre sa version qui me paraît être l'une des plus plausibles... réouverture de Don Muang ; Souvanapoum est toujours ouvert dans un premier temps, puis fermeture partielle ou totale de Souvanapoum pour réparations... puis.... ben, on verra bien à ce moment là (dans plusieurs mois) et d'ici là de l'eau aura coulé sous les ponts de Bangkok.....
Bangkok will have two international airports
🙂🙂 They are the champions!
Et oui! Comment ne pas perdre la face? C'est tout simple, on réouvre Don Muang en laissant le nouvel aéroport toujours ouvert (enfin, dans un premier temps...) Lire la suite de ce passionnant feuilleton ici: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=105200
Ce très cher forum anglais reprend les infos du journal "The Nation" ; infos en anglais ; bonben ceux qui ne savent pas lire l'anglais n'ont plus qu'à retourner à l'école😉 ;
C'est le Premier ministre qui l'a dit ...
cclub75 nous livre sa version qui me paraît être l'une des plus plausibles... réouverture de Don Muang ; Souvanapoum est toujours ouvert dans un premier temps, puis fermeture partielle ou totale de Souvanapoum pour réparations... puis.... ben, on verra bien à ce moment là (dans plusieurs mois) et d'ici là de l'eau aura coulé sous les ponts de Bangkok.....
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
La presse francaise, avec Le Monde, en fait echo.
Lire la petite synthèse ici :
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0, 1-0@2-3234, 36-863699@51-854443, 0.html
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
La réouverture de Don Muang ne faisait plus aucun doute depuis quelques semaines. Reste à savoir quand celà se fera. La grande nouveauté du jour, c'est l'annonce que Don Muang sera un aéroport international permanent et non domestique ouvert provisoirement comme évoqué précédemment.
Le futur nous dira ce qu'il adviendra de Suvarnabhumi. En attendant, wait and see...
Personnellement, je suis partisan pour centraliser les informations, même si les rebondissements sont fréquents. Ca nous permettera dans quelque années en relisant ce post de revivre la saga des aéroports de Bangkok.
AFP - mardi 06.02.2007, 11:58 Dans une étonnante volte-face, Bangkok a annoncé la réouverture de son ancien aéroport de Don Muang, face aux problèmes récurrents du nouvel aérogare de Suvarnabhumi, qui se voulait le symbole de la Thaïlande moderne. "Le gouvernement a décidé de maintenir deux aéroports internationaux pour notre pays car il y a eu de nombreux revers à l'aéroport Suvarnabhumi et nous devons nous préparer à gérer plus de passagers à l'avenir", a indiqué à la presse le Premier ministre Surayud Chulanont. "Il est donc nécessaire de disposer de Don Muang en tant que second aéroport international", a-t-il ajouté.
AFP - mardi 06.02.2007, 11:58 Dans une étonnante volte-face, Bangkok a annoncé la réouverture de son ancien aéroport de Don Muang, face aux problèmes récurrents du nouvel aérogare de Suvarnabhumi, qui se voulait le symbole de la Thaïlande moderne. "Le gouvernement a décidé de maintenir deux aéroports internationaux pour notre pays car il y a eu de nombreux revers à l'aéroport Suvarnabhumi et nous devons nous préparer à gérer plus de passagers à l'avenir", a indiqué à la presse le Premier ministre Surayud Chulanont. "Il est donc nécessaire de disposer de Don Muang en tant que second aéroport international", a-t-il ajouté.
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Thibaut
"Le gouvernement a décidé de maintenir deux aéroports internationaux pour notre pays car il y a eu de nombreux revers à l'aéroport Suvarnabhumi et nous devons nous préparer à gérer plus de passagers à l'avenir",
Voilà encore une dépêche de l'AFP qui fait dans le n'importe quoi. 2 Aéroports internationaux dans le pays ? Mais il y en a bien plus et depuis des années !
Franchement raconter et centraliser le n'importe quoi n'est d'aucune utilité. Moi j'abandonne ce post car il devient ridicule. Il y a bien d'autres choses plus intéressantes Heureusement que le ridicule ne tue pas !
The end.
Voilà encore une dépêche de l'AFP qui fait dans le n'importe quoi. 2 Aéroports internationaux dans le pays ? Mais il y en a bien plus et depuis des années !
Franchement raconter et centraliser le n'importe quoi n'est d'aucune utilité. Moi j'abandonne ce post car il devient ridicule. Il y a bien d'autres choses plus intéressantes Heureusement que le ridicule ne tue pas !
The end.
permets-moi de voyager ou bon me semble,
Lorque j'ai écrit "n'y va pas", c'était de l'humour. Voyage où bon te semble, ça m'est complètement égal. Quant à juger les gens, loin de moi cette idée, je m'étonne simplement de voir à quel point l'Occident est stressé.
Lorque j'ai écrit "n'y va pas", c'était de l'humour. Voyage où bon te semble, ça m'est complètement égal. Quant à juger les gens, loin de moi cette idée, je m'étonne simplement de voir à quel point l'Occident est stressé.
permets-moi de voyager ou bon me semble, et de prendre parti pour ceux et celles qui ne sont pas rassurés, pour des raison qui leur sont propre et que je me permets pas de juger.
Ceux qui ne sont pas rassures pour si peu de chose, le seront toute leur vie. 🤪
Que la Thailande decide de passer d'un aeroport a l'autre, qu'importe. Il est sur que le pays fera tout pour que cela se passe pour le mieux quitte meme a devoir prendre les gens par la main... 😉
Et meme si demain une piste doit s'enfoncer de trois metres dans le sol suite a l'atterrissage d'un gros porteur !
Ceux qui ne sont pas rassures pour si peu de chose, le seront toute leur vie. 🤪
Que la Thailande decide de passer d'un aeroport a l'autre, qu'importe. Il est sur que le pays fera tout pour que cela se passe pour le mieux quitte meme a devoir prendre les gens par la main... 😉
Et meme si demain une piste doit s'enfoncer de trois metres dans le sol suite a l'atterrissage d'un gros porteur !
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Bonjour à tous, me voilà revenue sur le forum.
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
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Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
Marsyork
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
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Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!







