Thaïlande: la situation au mercredi 19 mai
by Khunfred
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ok merci , donc fausse info qu'on m'a envoyer .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Ils dévieront sur Phuket et Krabi comme d'habitude !!!!
Sinon ils peuvent atterrir à Kamala aussi sur la grande avenue . 😏😏
Sinon ils peuvent atterrir à Kamala aussi sur la grande avenue . 😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
De nombreuses compagnies sur BKK ont fermé à 6pm. Certaines sont totalement bouclées, leurs employés placés en congé pour plusieurs jours par mesure de sécurité. (sources perso)
Arnaud Dubus (Fr-Info): les Rouges auraient "pris le contrôle" des sièges des provinces, à Khon Kaen et Ubon Ratchatani.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Ils dévieront sur Phuket et Krabi comme d'habitude !!!!
Sinon ils peuvent atterrir à Kamala aussi sur la grande avenue . 😏😏
phuket a une arrivee internationnal, chiang mai aussi, u tapao/pattaya aussi, si jamais y'a assez de "petit" aeroport pour dispatcher les arrivee
TV en ce moment un juge annonce que les incendieres seront condamner a vie si ils avouent ou peine de mort ....
Sinon ils peuvent atterrir à Kamala aussi sur la grande avenue . 😏😏
phuket a une arrivee internationnal, chiang mai aussi, u tapao/pattaya aussi, si jamais y'a assez de "petit" aeroport pour dispatcher les arrivee
TV en ce moment un juge annonce que les incendieres seront condamner a vie si ils avouent ou peine de mort ....
Je viens d'apprendre que Facebook interdit en Thaïlande pour le moment .??
Bonsoir Barbot, Pas de problème de connexion sur Facebook à Samui avec TOT. Bonne soirée
Bonsoir Barbot, Pas de problème de connexion sur Facebook à Samui avec TOT. Bonne soirée
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
je ne crois pas non plus que le chemin d'un pays se trouve dans la mise en place d'une enclave militante retranchée au milieu d'une capitale, ripostant aux attaques des forces de l'ordre.
les deux partis devront s'entendre et comprendre que seule la démocratie et les élections sont une chose favorable. Les responsables sont les leaders des deux camps.
La condition sociale et la représentation de la population paysanne ou même des Minorités (je souligne au passage que des milliers de Hmong ont été renvoyé au Laos il y a peu - ça fait réagir quelqu'un un peuple exploité et maltraité?? pas trop apparemment. une fois de plus les plus faibles ne sont pas défendus), ne peut s'obtenir par la violence sans créer une cission plus forte au sein de la population. J'ai l'impression en te lisant que ce combat sanglant est légitime! En tout cas que ces morts ne serviront pas à rien : mais si! Les morts ne profiteront pas des prétendues avancées pour le peuple paysan. Je crois surtout que c'est Taksin et une partie de la classe politique qui se réjouissent de voir des gens se battre et mourir pour eux gratuitement...
En ce qui concerne le combat : Obtenir la sympathie internationale, des touristes (pouvoir économique important), des religieux, voir de la royauté, me semble plus judicieux. Les actions symboliques, pacifistes et de grandes ampleurs feraient meilleur effet. Surtout dans un pays ou le bouddhisme et si présent...
L'intervention de l'armée est légitime après des mois de conflit. Malheureusement les rouges doivent se résoudre à retourner chez eux et à préparer dans le calme les nouvelles élections. On ne peut pas occuper indéfiniment une capitale !! Ce n'est pas un sitting Hyppie dans un champ, c'est le blocage d'une économie. Le manichéisme riche/pauvre ne convient pas à la situation qui est plus complexe.
Enfin je souri en lisant le modèle français que tu cites: le pays développé qui sait réagir face aux manifestations de grandes ampleurs. :D Je te rappelle qu'en mai 68 il y a eu des morts, et que les manoeuvres de la police ou des forces de l'ordre en général étaient plus que généreuses en coup - même sur de simples passants... On préfère montrer le côté bon enfant d'étudiants universitaires réclamant plus de libertés. Cela permet de cacher certaines heures pas très glorieuses...
Mais bon j'ai probablement tort ^^
les deux partis devront s'entendre et comprendre que seule la démocratie et les élections sont une chose favorable. Les responsables sont les leaders des deux camps.
La condition sociale et la représentation de la population paysanne ou même des Minorités (je souligne au passage que des milliers de Hmong ont été renvoyé au Laos il y a peu - ça fait réagir quelqu'un un peuple exploité et maltraité?? pas trop apparemment. une fois de plus les plus faibles ne sont pas défendus), ne peut s'obtenir par la violence sans créer une cission plus forte au sein de la population. J'ai l'impression en te lisant que ce combat sanglant est légitime! En tout cas que ces morts ne serviront pas à rien : mais si! Les morts ne profiteront pas des prétendues avancées pour le peuple paysan. Je crois surtout que c'est Taksin et une partie de la classe politique qui se réjouissent de voir des gens se battre et mourir pour eux gratuitement...
En ce qui concerne le combat : Obtenir la sympathie internationale, des touristes (pouvoir économique important), des religieux, voir de la royauté, me semble plus judicieux. Les actions symboliques, pacifistes et de grandes ampleurs feraient meilleur effet. Surtout dans un pays ou le bouddhisme et si présent...
L'intervention de l'armée est légitime après des mois de conflit. Malheureusement les rouges doivent se résoudre à retourner chez eux et à préparer dans le calme les nouvelles élections. On ne peut pas occuper indéfiniment une capitale !! Ce n'est pas un sitting Hyppie dans un champ, c'est le blocage d'une économie. Le manichéisme riche/pauvre ne convient pas à la situation qui est plus complexe.
Enfin je souri en lisant le modèle français que tu cites: le pays développé qui sait réagir face aux manifestations de grandes ampleurs. :D Je te rappelle qu'en mai 68 il y a eu des morts, et que les manoeuvres de la police ou des forces de l'ordre en général étaient plus que généreuses en coup - même sur de simples passants... On préfère montrer le côté bon enfant d'étudiants universitaires réclamant plus de libertés. Cela permet de cacher certaines heures pas très glorieuses...
Mais bon j'ai probablement tort ^^
S'il ne te reste que quelques secondes à vivre, prend simplement le temps d'ouvrir les yeux...
Silvestik
Arisaman Pongruangrong, a red-shirt leader, has been arrested, Matichon Online and Channel 7 reported.
Channel 7 said Arisaman was arrested in Plonechit area.
Matichon said Arisaman was taken to the Naresuan Border Patrol Police Base in Hua Hin.
The Nation
Channel 7 said Arisaman was arrested in Plonechit area.
Matichon said Arisaman was taken to the Naresuan Border Patrol Police Base in Hua Hin.
The Nation
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
les deux partis devront s'entendre et comprendre que seule la démocratie et les élections sont une chose favorable. Les responsables sont les leaders des deux camps.
maintenant seul la voix du plus fort comptera , ca c est thai , c est comme ça.d ailleurs le chef des jaunes a bien dit on va faire la guerre , il y aura des morts , les survivants feront la paix
maintenant seul la voix du plus fort comptera , ca c est thai , c est comme ça.d ailleurs le chef des jaunes a bien dit on va faire la guerre , il y aura des morts , les survivants feront la paix
Khon Kaen, les manifestants utilisent des grenades.
votre source svp. merci

votre source svp. merci


Bonjour,
j'ai une question qui s'adresse aux expats vivant à bangkok. je dois me rendre absolument à Bangkok (pas le choix) samedi prochain j'arrive par bus car j'habite au cambodge où je travaille pour une ong. j'ai copié les noms des quartiers déconseillés par l'ambassade de france mais je n'arrive pas à les identifier sur la carte de bangkok... je cherche une guesthouse qui serait toujours ouverte (car à ce que j'ai entendu certaines auraient fermées) et qui ne seraient pas dans ces quartiers... je dois également préciser que mon budget est limité alors ne m'indiquez pas d'hotel svp. j'ai lu plusieurs articles sur ce qui s'est passé aujourd'hui et regardé le vidéo sur youtube et à ce que j'ai compris il semble désormais impossible d'identifier un foyer au conflit qui se diffuse un peu partout dans la ville à cause des casseurs. j'aurai également besoin de savoir comment est la liberté de circulation pendant la journée en dehors des heures de couvre feu? est ce qu'il est possible de retirer de l'argent ou est ce que je ferai mieux de retirer au cambodge avant mon départ? est ce que toutes les zones touristiques sont fermées?! (je sais pour les principaux centres commerciaux car ca a été relaté dans la presse mais par exemple le palais royal?) est ce qu'il reste des touristes à bangkok? est ce que les casseurs sont vraiment des t shirts rouges? ou justes des personnes qui profitent de la situation? est ce qu'ils ont agressé des gens pour leur dérober des biens ou est ce des actes gratuits?! est ce que vous restez cloitrés chez vous (comme le recommende le ministère sur son site internet de conseil aux voyageurs) ou est ce que vous continué votre vie normale en allant au travail... est ce qu'il y a toujours autant de traffic pendant la journée ou est ce que certaines personnes ont peur et restent chez elles ce qui diminuerait le traffic? est il déconseillé de circuler en tuk tuk ou en métro ou bus public?! Merci d'avance pour vos réponses... rester en sécurité car même si certains quartier vous semble calme la situation semble bien partie pour dégénérée. bien cordialement,
Pour résoudre le problème politique et social, l'ouverture du dialogue se fait avec l'armée et ses M16 !
Pendant ce temps là, un vieux monarque richissime se meurt, inconscient des troubles en son royaume...
Peut-être sait-il que tout est vain car comme le prédit une légende, sa dynastie s'éteindra après le 9eme monarque...
son nom c'est RAMA IX
Rien n'est permanent, tout n'est que illusion et il le sait !
Salut ! Juste pour dire que j'apprécie de lire des paroles sages...Il est pas étonnant de voir une telle tournure des événements en Thaïlande. J'ai pensé à un moment que si les moines étaient venus soutenir le peuple dans la rue, il y a fort à croire que les militaires n'auraient pas hésité à faire la même chose qu'en birmanie. Pour moi, un militaire est un militaire, c'est à dire une ..... ! Je pense comme tu dis, que la grande sagesse du Roi à pu lui faire comprendre qu'il n'y avait pas d'issue, et a donc décidé de ne pas se prononcer à la télé...😕
Salut ! Juste pour dire que j'apprécie de lire des paroles sages...Il est pas étonnant de voir une telle tournure des événements en Thaïlande. J'ai pensé à un moment que si les moines étaient venus soutenir le peuple dans la rue, il y a fort à croire que les militaires n'auraient pas hésité à faire la même chose qu'en birmanie. Pour moi, un militaire est un militaire, c'est à dire une ..... ! Je pense comme tu dis, que la grande sagesse du Roi à pu lui faire comprendre qu'il n'y avait pas d'issue, et a donc décidé de ne pas se prononcer à la télé...😕
il y a fort à croire que les militaires n'auraient pas hésité à faire la même chose qu'en birmanie.
un peu comme la journaliste birmane qui a ete maltraiter par le service de securiter des rouges... http://hilight.kapook.com/view/48728
avec comme seule excuse hoo on croyait qu'elle venait dire du mal de notre mouvement..... quand bien meme elle dise du mal, la liberter de presse?
un peu comme la journaliste birmane qui a ete maltraiter par le service de securiter des rouges... http://hilight.kapook.com/view/48728
avec comme seule excuse hoo on croyait qu'elle venait dire du mal de notre mouvement..... quand bien meme elle dise du mal, la liberter de presse?


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il y a fort à croire que les militaires n'auraient pas hésité à faire la même chose qu'en birmanie.
un peu comme la journaliste birmane qui a ete maltraiter par le service de securiter des rouges...
http://hilight.kapook.com/view/48728avec comme seule excuse hoo on croyait qu'elle venait dire du mal de notre mouvement..... quand bien meme elle dise du mal, la liberter de presse?
Je reste sans voix...et moi qui croyais que tous les rouges étaient irréprochables! 😕
Au moins, à présent, je sais l'affection que tu portes envers ces braves soldats ... 😐

Salut Marco......................résumé............
http://www.lifebangkok.com/many-reports-of-fires-looting-riots-as-worsening-crisis-spirals-into-mob-anarchy-wednesday-as-leaders-surrender-or-flee/
http://www.lifebangkok.com/many-reports-of-fires-looting-riots-as-worsening-crisis-spirals-into-mob-anarchy-wednesday-as-leaders-surrender-or-flee/
Salut Sawasdee ,
Merci pour ce lien , en effet comme ils disent c'est honteux comme stratégie . On verra demain si ça se calme si c'est pas le cas beaucoup de question à se poser celui qui est derrière tout ça , j'avais dit dans un post qu'il avait bien dit ''je mettrais le pays à feu et à sang"" dommage que je retrouve pas ce lien .
Merci pour ce lien , en effet comme ils disent c'est honteux comme stratégie . On verra demain si ça se calme si c'est pas le cas beaucoup de question à se poser celui qui est derrière tout ça , j'avais dit dans un post qu'il avait bien dit ''je mettrais le pays à feu et à sang"" dommage que je retrouve pas ce lien .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
FR24, Cyril PAyen à BKK:Des colonnes de fumées, provenant aussi de nombreux pneus incendiés, se dégageaient au-dessus de la capitale thaïlandaise, où l'armée a annoncé l'imposition d'un couvre feu de 20H00 mercredi soir (13H00 GMT) à 06H00.
Le gouvernement a reconnu que certaines parties de la ville n'étaient pas sous contrôle, alors que l'armée annonçait qu'elle allait "s'occuper de ceux qui provoquent des troubles".
"Cette nuit sera une nouvelle nuit de souffrances", a déclaré le porte-parole du gouvernement Panitan Wattanayagorn. Toutes les chaînes de télévision sont désormais alimentées de programmes sous contrôle du gouvernement.
Une unité d'élite de la police a été autorisée à tirer à vue sur les pillards ou émeutiers.
Les violences ont également gagné le nord-est du pays, dont sont originaires nombre de "chemises rouges". Des milliers de manifestants ont ainsi incendié le siège du gouvernement de la province d'Udon Thani, selon le gouverneur Amnat Pagarat, qui a assuré que l'armée avait repris le contrôle
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
BANGKOK Assoc Press- Au moins six nouveaux corps ont été retrouvés mercredi dans un temple bouddhiste situé dans la zone qu'occupaient les Chemises rouges à Bangkok jusqu'à l'assaut des forces thaïlandaises à l'aube, selon des témoins. Selon ces témoins, le temple Wat Pathum Vanaram servait de refuge pour les manifestants anti-gouvernementaux cherchant à se protéger des violences de rue. Des centaines de personnes s'y étaient réfugiées après que l'armée thaïlandaise ait donné l'assaut contre le camp retranché des Chemises rouges plus tôt dans la journée et obtenu la reddition des principaux meneurs du mouvement antigouvernemental. Le journaliste canadien Mark MacKinnon, qui se trouvait dans le temple, a dit que la situation y était dangereuse, des balles sifflant au-dessus des têtes, jusqu'à la négociation d'un cessez-le-feu tard dans la soirée de mercredi. Le volontaire médical Anan Thongniem a précisé que parmi les morts se trouvaient deux manifestants, un garde des manifestants et deux médecins. Ces nouveaux décès porteraient à 12 au moins le nombre de personnes tuées dans la journée.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Au moins six nouveaux corps ont été retrouvés mercredi dans un temple bouddhiste situé dans la zone qu'occupaient les Chemises rouges à Bangkok jusqu'à l'assaut des forces thaïlandaises à l'aube
En effet bien triste tout ça , et à mon avis on saura jamais le nombre de victimes exact . 🤪
En effet bien triste tout ça , et à mon avis on saura jamais le nombre de victimes exact . 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Oui comme tu dis tristes images qui passe en boucle sur le Net . 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Et bien ! Il est fort le père Abhisit pour son premier mandat de premier ministre ! On pourrait le surnommer "Abhisit le sanglant" ou "le boucher de Lumpini".
Quoi qu'il en soit, Monsieur Thaksin est un enfant de coeur en comparaison avec la dictature Abhisitienne.
D'après des connaissances Thaï, le pire est a venir...... les exactions de l'armée vont continuer.
D'après des connaissances Thaï, le pire est a venir...... les exactions de l'armée vont continuer.
On ne désire pas ce qu'on ne connaît pas.
On écrit pour raconter, non pour prouver.
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il y a fort à croire que les militaires n'auraient pas hésité à faire la même chose qu'en birmanie.
un peu comme la journaliste birmane qui a ete maltraiter par le service de securiter des rouges...
http://hilight.kapook.com/view/48728avec comme seule excuse hoo on croyait qu'elle venait dire du mal de notre mouvement..... quand bien meme elle dise du mal, la liberter de presse?
Je reste sans voix...et moi qui croyais que tous les rouges étaient irréprochables! 😕
Au moins, à présent, je sais l'affection que tu portes envers ces braves soldats ... 😐

Phasathai... avec le grand respect que je donne à tout le monde ici... tu ne va pas me dire que tu es un supporter des REDS? As tu écouter toute la propagande des leaders pendants ces 2 mois? sais tu comment ça se passait à l'intérieure? je ne pense pas... tu demandera à ta copine de traduire les paroles... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNZFcYbYsM (BURN BANGKOK...) et bien avant que les militaires interviennent) tu peux aussi matter ceci http://tnews.teenee.com/politic/50814.html ... attention aux images choc. Quoi? surpris? les reds on des armes? allons allons... Passons à ce qui sait passer cette après midi, 2 leader sont se rendu à 14h (le leader chanteur c'est enfui la queue entre les jambes!) avec comme mots d'ordre "arrêter et rentrer chez vous" ben ouai...lui il s'en tape...il est plein de $$$ , mais c'est pauvre gens d'issan... ça c'est autre choses. Alors vers 16h c'est protestant pacifiste 😮...se sont diriger chez Channel 3 et on tout peter, mis le feu alors qu'ils y avaient des gens à l'intérieure! Ils ne se sont pas aretter la... c'était super car à coter de ça on trouve les bureaux de Bangkok Bank, alors pareil que pour channel 3... je suis arriver sur les lieux à 18h... y avait encore des gens bloquer à l'intérieur! 1h plus tard à dans un 7/11 pres de Onut ils ont pris les gens en otages et on fait peter une bombe... Je passe aussi sur le l'immeuble de kasikorn bank, .. et la palme... CENTRAL WORLD! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuCLcjRIbJc
Alors prend un peu la place d'un militaire 5 sec... à sachant que et la je précise certain reds sont armée de fusils, de lance grenade, de c4, ... tu irais au combat avec une pair de boxe toi???? Je ne suis pas un pro jaune ou un pro rouge, mais faut pas blamer l'armée...elle à assée été patiente...
Salut,
Pour situer les quartiers à éviter en ce moment regarde la carte sur ce lien http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.759352,100.540352&spn=0.01436,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=0004869f2de35f7406e34 C'est mis à jour régulièrement et j'ai vérifié certaines infos, ça colle.
Si tu veux une GH pas chère et loin de ces quartiers, il y a la Bamboo GH. C'est à proximité de la Chao Phraya, pas chère (330 bahts en déc 2008) et simple ; sanitaires collectifs. C'est facile d'accès si les transports fonctionnent sur la Chao Phraya, mais je n'ai pas réussi à avoir de réponse là-dessus.
Pour le reste je ne suis pas en Thaïlande et encore moins à Bangkok, donc je ne peux pas te répondre. J'ai lu que la circulation était difficile et de toute façon il y a une semaine fériée décidée depuis le week-end dernier, donc plein de choses fermées en prévision de la situation actuelle.
Bon courage à toi. A ta place je téléphonerais à l'Ambassade si ton déplacement est obligatoire. Romuh
Pour situer les quartiers à éviter en ce moment regarde la carte sur ce lien http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.759352,100.540352&spn=0.01436,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=0004869f2de35f7406e34 C'est mis à jour régulièrement et j'ai vérifié certaines infos, ça colle.
Si tu veux une GH pas chère et loin de ces quartiers, il y a la Bamboo GH. C'est à proximité de la Chao Phraya, pas chère (330 bahts en déc 2008) et simple ; sanitaires collectifs. C'est facile d'accès si les transports fonctionnent sur la Chao Phraya, mais je n'ai pas réussi à avoir de réponse là-dessus.
Pour le reste je ne suis pas en Thaïlande et encore moins à Bangkok, donc je ne peux pas te répondre. J'ai lu que la circulation était difficile et de toute façon il y a une semaine fériée décidée depuis le week-end dernier, donc plein de choses fermées en prévision de la situation actuelle.
Bon courage à toi. A ta place je téléphonerais à l'Ambassade si ton déplacement est obligatoire. Romuh
D'après des connaissances Thaï, le pire est a venir...... les exactions de l'armée vont continuer


la dictature Abhisitienne.
de quel dictature tu parles ? il a été élu au parlement, tu veux refaire les lois thaïs ?
de quel dictature tu parles ? il a été élu au parlement, tu veux refaire les lois thaïs ?
D'après des connaissances Thaï, le pire est a venir...... les exactions de l'armée vont continuer
qui cherche trouve !
qui cherche trouve !
les monks y passent aussi


Et les Hmong qu'il a expulsé par milliers vers le Laos et dont personne n'a plus entendu parler tu en penses quoi ?
mmm, le parlement thaï à majorité rouge pourra te répondre
mmm, le parlement thaï à majorité rouge pourra te répondre
Quoi qu'il en soit, Monsieur Thaksin est un enfant de coeur en comparaison avec la dictature Abhisitienne.
les familles des victimes de Takbai ne sont pas d'accord avec toi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWiH2S2XkI
et
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLjWKpzjOM&feature=related
les familles des victimes de Takbai ne sont pas d'accord avec toi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWiH2S2XkI
et
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLjWKpzjOM&feature=related
les monks y passent aussi
des vrais ou des faux. si c'est des vrais, ils ont transgressé 2 lois, celle de l'état d'urgence et celle du code monastique, grave M.Le procureur !
des vrais ou des faux. si c'est des vrais, ils ont transgressé 2 lois, celle de l'état d'urgence et celle du code monastique, grave M.Le procureur !

Long life Abbhisit.
Oui, un grand homme, patient, qui a su tempéré l'armée qui voulait en finir avec les rouges depuis belle lurette. il a su négocié, proposer sa démission en septembre mais les rouges lui ont craché dans la main tendue.
Donc acte, ouvrez les vannes, on purge point
si c'est des vrais, ils ont transgressé 2 lois
a partir d aujourhui ils sont tous considérés comme des terroristes. le supreme court n est pas encore d accord sur tous les points de charge , le court n a pas encore accepter " taksin comme terroriste". ils vont tous passer a la casserole pour terrorisme.
a partir d aujourhui ils sont tous considérés comme des terroristes. le supreme court n est pas encore d accord sur tous les points de charge , le court n a pas encore accepter " taksin comme terroriste". ils vont tous passer a la casserole pour terrorisme.
Alors prend un peu la place d'un militaire 5 sec...🙁😏😏😏
...on m'a donné ce choix (imposé) en 1987 ! Mais plutôt mourrir ...Tuer quelqu'un que je ne connais pas, c'est pas mon truc. Comme je l'ai déjà dit sur ce forum, je suis un ancien P4 (par choix) et fier de l'être 😇. Fier d'avoir une conscience. Je méprise autant les gens animés par une haine gratuite, quelle que soit leur couleur (rouge ou jaune), que ceux qui ont choisi certains métiers parce que ça leur procurait un semblant de pouvoir ; le paroxisme de l'ignorance. Tu me diras ce que tu en pense, mais moi, j'associe la couleur (en Thaïlande) jaune au fric et à la répression, et le rouge, à la pauvreté et à l'envie de démocratie. A force d'injustice, j'arrive à comprendre qu'on puisse en venir à crever du flic ou du militaire. Un chien à force d'être battu, fini par mordre, et je suis désolé, ce n'est pas un chien méchant, c'est un chien qu'on a rendu méchant ! Je suis pour le partage et la transparence. S'il n'y avait pas des gens qui cherchent à marcher sur les autres dans ce monde, il y aurait presque pas de conflit. Il faut être un âne pour tuer quelqu'un sans avoir cherché le pourquoi du comment, et chaque pays dispose d'une multitude de troupes prêtes à mater ceux qui se rebellent contre leur bourreaux. Il est bien rôdé le système ...
tu ne va pas me dire que tu es un supporter des REDS
Je n'ai pas voté pour Besancenot non plus (je n'ai d'ailleurs jamais voté pour qui que ce soit), et pourtant j'adhère à la plupart de ses idées, mis à part l'utopie. Comment ne pas avoir un sentiment de rattachement par rapport à un camp, lorsqu'un est égoïste, et l'autre a envie de partager...je te laisse trouver le mien ! Grace aux militaires, je pourrais te faire remémorer l'histoire du tibet, ou de la birmanie, ou de la Corée du nord...et encore il s'agit que d'une petite partie du monde. Chaque continent a ses héros en uniforme ! Du respect pour les gens respectueux ? j'en ai à revendre ; par contre, tendre l'autre joue c'est pas mon truc. Le dominant peut à son tour devenir dominé et inversement...prouvé scientifiquement avec des rats de labo (pauvres rats, il faut être con pour faire de telles expériences!). Moi je fais partie des indépendants. Je laisse tranquille... qu'on me laisse tranquille, ou, qui s'y frotte s'y pique! Rassures-toi, je considère que ceux qui mettent le feu à des immeubles où il y a des gens à l'intérieur sont des criminels.
mais faut pas blamer l'armée...elle à assée été patiente...😕😕😕
Patiente de quoi ? Les soldats n'ont rien décidé ; ça c'est décidé en haut lieu par un petit groupe de terroristes qui imposent leur dictature. Les idiots en treilli n'ont fait qu'obéir sans état d'âme (bon d'accord, faudrait qu'ils en est une).
Allez, faites-vous plaisir, massacrez-moi virtuellement ! 🏴☠️🏴☠️ 😉
...on m'a donné ce choix (imposé) en 1987 ! Mais plutôt mourrir ...Tuer quelqu'un que je ne connais pas, c'est pas mon truc. Comme je l'ai déjà dit sur ce forum, je suis un ancien P4 (par choix) et fier de l'être 😇. Fier d'avoir une conscience. Je méprise autant les gens animés par une haine gratuite, quelle que soit leur couleur (rouge ou jaune), que ceux qui ont choisi certains métiers parce que ça leur procurait un semblant de pouvoir ; le paroxisme de l'ignorance. Tu me diras ce que tu en pense, mais moi, j'associe la couleur (en Thaïlande) jaune au fric et à la répression, et le rouge, à la pauvreté et à l'envie de démocratie. A force d'injustice, j'arrive à comprendre qu'on puisse en venir à crever du flic ou du militaire. Un chien à force d'être battu, fini par mordre, et je suis désolé, ce n'est pas un chien méchant, c'est un chien qu'on a rendu méchant ! Je suis pour le partage et la transparence. S'il n'y avait pas des gens qui cherchent à marcher sur les autres dans ce monde, il y aurait presque pas de conflit. Il faut être un âne pour tuer quelqu'un sans avoir cherché le pourquoi du comment, et chaque pays dispose d'une multitude de troupes prêtes à mater ceux qui se rebellent contre leur bourreaux. Il est bien rôdé le système ...
tu ne va pas me dire que tu es un supporter des REDS
Je n'ai pas voté pour Besancenot non plus (je n'ai d'ailleurs jamais voté pour qui que ce soit), et pourtant j'adhère à la plupart de ses idées, mis à part l'utopie. Comment ne pas avoir un sentiment de rattachement par rapport à un camp, lorsqu'un est égoïste, et l'autre a envie de partager...je te laisse trouver le mien ! Grace aux militaires, je pourrais te faire remémorer l'histoire du tibet, ou de la birmanie, ou de la Corée du nord...et encore il s'agit que d'une petite partie du monde. Chaque continent a ses héros en uniforme ! Du respect pour les gens respectueux ? j'en ai à revendre ; par contre, tendre l'autre joue c'est pas mon truc. Le dominant peut à son tour devenir dominé et inversement...prouvé scientifiquement avec des rats de labo (pauvres rats, il faut être con pour faire de telles expériences!). Moi je fais partie des indépendants. Je laisse tranquille... qu'on me laisse tranquille, ou, qui s'y frotte s'y pique! Rassures-toi, je considère que ceux qui mettent le feu à des immeubles où il y a des gens à l'intérieur sont des criminels.
mais faut pas blamer l'armée...elle à assée été patiente...😕😕😕
Patiente de quoi ? Les soldats n'ont rien décidé ; ça c'est décidé en haut lieu par un petit groupe de terroristes qui imposent leur dictature. Les idiots en treilli n'ont fait qu'obéir sans état d'âme (bon d'accord, faudrait qu'ils en est une).
Allez, faites-vous plaisir, massacrez-moi virtuellement ! 🏴☠️🏴☠️ 😉

Triste image de soldatesque enchainant des moines !!!😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕 Le régime Thaï du PM actuel ne vaut pas plus que le régime de Than Shew en birmanie qui a fait tirer sur le peuple en 2008 et fait assassiner les opposants dont un grand nombre de Bikhus... N'oublions pas que les bikhus viennent du peuple, sont des renonçant et ont un sens profond de la réalité de leur pays... Ces images feront plus de mal auprès de la population Thaï que les malheureuses victimes civiles tuées par le pouvoir... je n'entends plus les thuriféraires du régime comme Megwan et consorts... auraient-ils honte de ce qui se passe maintenant ? Je l'espère sans attendre actes de contrition de leur part 🏴☠️😕😕
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First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM). Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do???? We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc. Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
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Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else. Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening. We’ll be there at the end of October. Thanks!
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Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
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Hi,
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I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
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After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
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Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
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Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
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I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
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For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
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For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
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From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
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Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
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We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
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Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.













