jeudi 02 juillet 2009 Afin de relancer une industrie touristique morose, le gouvernement thaïlandais a décidé de retirer les charges pour les demandes de visa touristiques. Effective depuis le 25 juin dernier jusqu’au 4 mars 2010, cette décision s’applique uniquement aux visas touristiques à une seule entrée pour tous demandeurs, y compris ceux éligibles pour des Visas on Arrival. Le gouvernement avait déjà lancé une initiative similaire en mars dernier, qui était arrivée à terme le 4 juin. D'autres mesures ont été prises pour relancer le tourisme, comprenant une réduction des redevances d'atterrissage pour les avions et la réduction des frais d'entrée dans les parcs nationaux. Le 1er Juin, des "voyages à forfait pour le transfert des passagers" ont été introduits permettant aux passagers faisant une escale de 6 à 12 heures à l'aéroport international de Suvarnabhumi de visiter plusieurs attractions de Bangkok et ses environs.
Thaïlande: le visa touristique désormais gratuit jusqu’en 2010
by Thuan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonne nouvelle ( source le petit journal )
jeudi 02 juillet 2009 Afin de relancer une industrie touristique morose, le gouvernement thaïlandais a décidé de retirer les charges pour les demandes de visa touristiques. Effective depuis le 25 juin dernier jusqu’au 4 mars 2010, cette décision s’applique uniquement aux visas touristiques à une seule entrée pour tous demandeurs, y compris ceux éligibles pour des Visas on Arrival. Le gouvernement avait déjà lancé une initiative similaire en mars dernier, qui était arrivée à terme le 4 juin. D'autres mesures ont été prises pour relancer le tourisme, comprenant une réduction des redevances d'atterrissage pour les avions et la réduction des frais d'entrée dans les parcs nationaux. Le 1er Juin, des "voyages à forfait pour le transfert des passagers" ont été introduits permettant aux passagers faisant une escale de 6 à 12 heures à l'aéroport international de Suvarnabhumi de visiter plusieurs attractions de Bangkok et ses environs.
jeudi 02 juillet 2009 Afin de relancer une industrie touristique morose, le gouvernement thaïlandais a décidé de retirer les charges pour les demandes de visa touristiques. Effective depuis le 25 juin dernier jusqu’au 4 mars 2010, cette décision s’applique uniquement aux visas touristiques à une seule entrée pour tous demandeurs, y compris ceux éligibles pour des Visas on Arrival. Le gouvernement avait déjà lancé une initiative similaire en mars dernier, qui était arrivée à terme le 4 juin. D'autres mesures ont été prises pour relancer le tourisme, comprenant une réduction des redevances d'atterrissage pour les avions et la réduction des frais d'entrée dans les parcs nationaux. Le 1er Juin, des "voyages à forfait pour le transfert des passagers" ont été introduits permettant aux passagers faisant une escale de 6 à 12 heures à l'aéroport international de Suvarnabhumi de visiter plusieurs attractions de Bangkok et ses environs.
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Bonne nouvelle pour ceux qui voudront rester plus de 30 jours.
Le tourisme est-il en si mauvaise posture que plusieurs annonces de ce genre soient mise en place?
DUC
Bonne nouvelle pour ceux qui voudront rester plus de 30 jours.
Le tourisme est-il en si mauvaise posture que plusieurs annonces de ce genre soient mise en place?
Bonjour ,
En effet oui voir ceci >>> La Thaïlande et le Mexique desertés par les touristes , l'article complet ICI .
Bonjour ,
En effet oui voir ceci >>> La Thaïlande et le Mexique desertés par les touristes , l'article complet ICI .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Dans le même genre, s'ils pouvaient re-délivrer des visas de 30 jours aux frontières terrestres (au lieu de 15 jours actuellement), ça serait bien sympa aussi... 🙂 et je pense aussi bien pour que les touristes restent en Thailande au lieu de ne faire qu'y passer... 🏴☠️
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
sa va venir 😉..
Inch Allah !!! enfin, lui ou un autre... 😏
Inch Allah !!! enfin, lui ou un autre... 😏
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
La gratuité du visa touristique, nous en parlons depuis plus d'une semaine, depuis que malo a signalé la mesure. Mais c'est bon de faire un rappel de temps en temps.
Mais il faut bien noter que le gouvernement thai parle de visa touristique, sans distinction. Il est donc faux d'exclure le double et le multiple entrée.
Donc visa touristique gratuit jusqu'au 4 Mars 2010. Simple, double et multiple entree (pour peu qu'ils soient accordés, a la discretion du fonctionnaire, bien sur).
D'autres membres en ont déja parlé sur VF : - Visa pour la Thaïlande (gratuit) - du 24 juin - Tourist Visa Fee Exempted Until 4 March 2010 - du 25 juin - Visa double entrée pour la Thaïlande gratuit au Laos - du 30 juin
Mais il faut bien noter que le gouvernement thai parle de visa touristique, sans distinction. Il est donc faux d'exclure le double et le multiple entrée.
Donc visa touristique gratuit jusqu'au 4 Mars 2010. Simple, double et multiple entree (pour peu qu'ils soient accordés, a la discretion du fonctionnaire, bien sur).
D'autres membres en ont déja parlé sur VF : - Visa pour la Thaïlande (gratuit) - du 24 juin - Tourist Visa Fee Exempted Until 4 March 2010 - du 25 juin - Visa double entrée pour la Thaïlande gratuit au Laos - du 30 juin
oui le truc des 15 jours .. est vraiment ridicule
mouais, je trouve ça normal au contraire et pas forcément une contrainte, si certains 'expats' n'avaient pas abusé des 30 jours, l'immigration n'aurait pas mis en place cette limite de 15 jours * 4.
Un séjour de plus de 30 jours, ça se prépare avec des visas de touristes 60j ou 2*60j...
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mouais, je trouve ça normal au contraire et pas forcément une contrainte, si certains 'expats' n'avaient pas abusé des 30 jours, l'immigration n'aurait pas mis en place cette limite de 15 jours * 4.
Un séjour de plus de 30 jours, ça se prépare avec des visas de touristes 60j ou 2*60j...
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La limitation de 4 visa run de 15 jours aux frontieres terrestres a pour but d'emmer.... les farangs residents sans visa adequate et qui, souvent, bossent au black en Thailande, pas les touristes. Malheureusement les fonctionnaires de l'immigration de font pas la difference....
Rien!
les farangs residents sans visa adequate et qui, souvent, bossent au black en Thailande
oui c'est ce que j'appelle expats entre guillemets :)
Malheureusement les fonctionnaires de l'immigration de font pas la difference....
Je cherche mais je vois pas comment pourraient-ils faire la différence ?
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oui c'est ce que j'appelle expats entre guillemets :)
Malheureusement les fonctionnaires de l'immigration de font pas la difference....
Je cherche mais je vois pas comment pourraient-ils faire la différence ?
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Simplement au nombre de tampons d'entree sur le passeport non? Entre le touriste qui apres 1 mois en Malaisie souhaite passer un mois en Thailande et celui qui a 120 tampons d'entrees en 6 ans, pas complique de faire la difference.....
Juste +1 . 😉
Juste +1 . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Simplement au nombre de tampons d'entree sur le passeport non? Entre le touriste qui apres 1 mois en Malaisie souhaite passer un mois en Thailande et celui qui a 120 tampons d'entrees en 6 ans, pas complique de faire la difference.....
Très juste, +2...😉
Très juste, +2...😉
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
Bjr, vous pensez vraiment qu'un officier puisse déduire formellement qu'un touriste et bon ou mauvais juste en comptant le nombre de tampons ? si c'était si simple...🙂
Je vous mets un contre-exemple : le visa = 30j (ou15, peu importe) sans limitations. Il y a 50 personnes qui attendent pour rentrer en Thaïlande, j'en prends 3 au hasard ->
- le touriste n°1 a déjà 10 visa run. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier c'est que ce voyageur fait le voyage de sa vie, a travaillé dur pour ce voyage d'un an, il vit de ses économies.
- le touriste n° 2 a 3 visa run. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier c'est qu'il travaille au black pendant 6 mois en tout, ensuite il retournera dans son pays.
- le touriste n° 3 lui vient pour la première fois, c'est son premier visa. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier, c'est qu'il fait un tour du monde et compte sur de petits boulots pour subvenir à ses besoins. Il restera que 10j en Thaïlande mais travaillera illégalement pour 2 jours.
Si l'officier applique votre solution, il met en taule le touriste n°1; accueille à bras ouvert le second, et le troisième, au delà de tout soupçon, rentre sans problème. Votre solution peut mettre la puce à l'oreille mais n'est pas fiable et quelque peu injuste! Faudrait 'fliquer' tout le monde, ce qui n'est humainement et financièrement pas possible. ++
Je vous mets un contre-exemple : le visa = 30j (ou15, peu importe) sans limitations. Il y a 50 personnes qui attendent pour rentrer en Thaïlande, j'en prends 3 au hasard ->
- le touriste n°1 a déjà 10 visa run. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier c'est que ce voyageur fait le voyage de sa vie, a travaillé dur pour ce voyage d'un an, il vit de ses économies.
- le touriste n° 2 a 3 visa run. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier c'est qu'il travaille au black pendant 6 mois en tout, ensuite il retournera dans son pays.
- le touriste n° 3 lui vient pour la première fois, c'est son premier visa. Ce que ne sait pas l'officier, c'est qu'il fait un tour du monde et compte sur de petits boulots pour subvenir à ses besoins. Il restera que 10j en Thaïlande mais travaillera illégalement pour 2 jours.
Si l'officier applique votre solution, il met en taule le touriste n°1; accueille à bras ouvert le second, et le troisième, au delà de tout soupçon, rentre sans problème. Votre solution peut mettre la puce à l'oreille mais n'est pas fiable et quelque peu injuste! Faudrait 'fliquer' tout le monde, ce qui n'est humainement et financièrement pas possible. ++
Nous venons de sortir de Thaïlande après avoir passé 3 semaines en décembre dernier et presque 2 mois en mai et juin... et on peut confirmer... il n y a vraiment aucun touriste... Hachille (notre van) était le seul véhicule garé sur le parking de Sukhothai... pareil à Ayuthaya... pas grand monde à Chiang Mai et Chiang rai... idem à Pucket où nous étions seuls pour bivouaquer sur la plage... de même à Ko Samui où des centaines de pancartes indiquent (terrain à vendre, maison à louer, chambres pas chères...)... seuls pour bivouaquer devant le pont de la rivière Kwai... immense parking vide de tout bus... bref de la place!
Nous n'avons pas payé nos visas 60jours pris au service des visas Thai de Vientiane au Laos...
Accueil parfait des douanes Thai ... qui nous ont même donné 6 mois de permi de rouler pour Hachille à la place des 1 mois habituel.. bref la Thaïlande est vide de touristes... les Thais ont toujours autant le sourire et l'accueil est à la hauteur de vos attentes... et les riz fris à 50 centimes d'euros ne plombent pas votre budget! et une bonne averse de mousson tous les jours durant une heure permet de rester se reposer... et d'apprécier une agréable fraîcheur retrouvée...
sans faire de pub... c'est le moment d'y aller!
Bon voyage!
Yann et Ge
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Bonjour
Ca tombe bien 😉 😇, car je suis interéssé aussi , j'envisage de partir en Thailande en Nov 2009 , pour 2 mois et demie 🙂😎(c'est la durée maxi du visa tourist , je crois ) Gratuit ? jusqu'à 2010 ? si c'est le cas , peut on le faire a l'ambassade de Thailande en France?😮😮
Autre chose est il possible de rebelotter 2 mois et demie pour l'année prochaine 😉😛( fin jan ou début fev 2010 ), heu !, c'est à dire après le expiration du 1er vsa?
Visa valable 2 mois et demie dans l'année ? , je ne sais pas sur quelle période dans l'année est calculée la durée de ce visa?😇🤪
Merci d'avance de m'éclairer
Ca tombe bien 😉 😇, car je suis interéssé aussi , j'envisage de partir en Thailande en Nov 2009 , pour 2 mois et demie 🙂😎(c'est la durée maxi du visa tourist , je crois ) Gratuit ? jusqu'à 2010 ? si c'est le cas , peut on le faire a l'ambassade de Thailande en France?😮😮
Autre chose est il possible de rebelotter 2 mois et demie pour l'année prochaine 😉😛( fin jan ou début fev 2010 ), heu !, c'est à dire après le expiration du 1er vsa?
Visa valable 2 mois et demie dans l'année ? , je ne sais pas sur quelle période dans l'année est calculée la durée de ce visa?😇🤪
Merci d'avance de m'éclairer
il est possible de prolonger un visa de 1 mois un visa de d'une durée initiale de 2 mois...
Pour "rebelotter" (tient j'aime bien l'expression!) il faut sortir du pays 90 jours avant d'y revenir avec un nouveau visa... parfois ils accepte de donner un "visa run" même si la durée des 90 jours de Visa est déjà atteinte...
voili voilou...
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Bonsoir
Pour la durée de 3 mois Ok !🙂 mais pour la prolongation avec "visa run" je ne sais pas vraiment ce que c'est? et comment l'obtenir ? sur place ? est -il possible de l'obtenir longtemps à l'avance à l'ambassade de Thailande à Paris? ex 2 fois 90 jours😇🤪 Merci d'avance
Pour la durée de 3 mois Ok !🙂 mais pour la prolongation avec "visa run" je ne sais pas vraiment ce que c'est? et comment l'obtenir ? sur place ? est -il possible de l'obtenir longtemps à l'avance à l'ambassade de Thailande à Paris? ex 2 fois 90 jours😇🤪 Merci d'avance
un visa run n'est en fait pas vraiment un visa... il s'obtient directement à la frontière à l'arrivée... c'est juste un coup de tampon vous autorisant à rester pour une certaine durée dans le pays... si vous arrivez par les airs on vous donne 1 mois et si vous entrez par une frontière terrestre on vous autorise 15 jours..
Le visa run permet de traverser rapidement le pays si vous entrez par la route... ou comme la plupart des visiteurs qui ne viennent en Thailande que 2 semaines... de visiter le pays sans avoir à demander un visa au préalable
Voilà
cordialement
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See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie