Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Vous qui passez sans les voir... Kao San Road Bangkok
by Sisifo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
un vieux grand pere dans le caniveau en france:
as tu pensé aussi que c'était son kharma ??????
Franca
Pour donner à réfléchir !!!!, 2 personnes marchent et apperçoivent 1 escargot sur le chemin. L'un pense qu'il serait d'une bonne action de l'écarter car il pourrait se faire écraser, l'autre pense qu'au contraire, il faut le laisser là avec le risque de se faire marcher dessus, ainsi il pourra vivre son karma et peut être renaitre sous une forme meilleure, lequel a raison ?
Pour donner à réfléchir !!!!, 2 personnes marchent et apperçoivent 1 escargot sur le chemin. L'un pense qu'il serait d'une bonne action de l'écarter car il pourrait se faire écraser, l'autre pense qu'au contraire, il faut le laisser là avec le risque de se faire marcher dessus, ainsi il pourra vivre son karma et peut être renaitre sous une forme meilleure, lequel a raison ?
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
je pense qu'il faut lui laisser son chemin de vie mais qu'on peut aussi l'adoucir et ça c'est le christianisme qui me le dit!
donc il peut vivre sa vie de mendiant mais je peux l'aider en lui donnant des pieces et du riz, je ne me decharge pas derriere le karma!
et peut etre que mon karma a moi c'est d'etre sur sa route ce jour la, et pourquoi cette rencontre?? si ce n'est pour changer le cours des choses..
bonne meditation
je pense qu'il faut lui laisser son chemin de vie mais qu'on peut aussi l'adoucir et ça c'est le christianisme qui me le dit!
donc il peut vivre sa vie de mendiant mais je peux l'aider en lui donnant des pieces et du riz, je ne me decharge pas derriere le karma!
et peut etre que mon karma a moi c'est d'etre sur sa route ce jour la, et pourquoi cette rencontre?? si ce n'est pour changer le cours des choses..
bonne meditation
la question binaire ne s'appliquait pas au mendiant mais à l'escargot, difficile d'adoucir son état non ? Bien entendu qu'il faut aider les plus nécessiteux, cela n'est pas une question de se cacher derrière son karma, au contraire c'est l'améliorer, les 2 sont liés, le sien le mien.
la question binaire ne s'appliquait pas au mendiant mais à l'escargot, difficile d'adoucir son état non ? Bien entendu qu'il faut aider les plus nécessiteux, cela n'est pas une question de se cacher derrière son karma, au contraire c'est l'améliorer, les 2 sont liés, le sien le mien.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
les deux ont raison, leur raison
<< .....notre soif de survie dans le futur nous rend incapables de vivre dans le présent .....>>. Chuang TZU
j'ai relu ton message et ce n'est pas clair! pour l'escargot comme pour le reste on peut essayer de faire quelque chose de toute facon si c'est son karma de se faire ecraser il le sera mais ce ne sera pas de ma faute!
il suffit de savoir si on passe sans les voir ou si on les voit c'est tout!
je travaille dans les jardins et je passe ma journee a sauver des insectes, ca peut paraitre pueril !
Euh! La photo n'est pas de moi mais de marigeri qui s'est embrouillé les pinceaux au moment de faire un copié/collé ;
je n'ai fait que reprendre les infos données dans son post et ...hop la boum
Rendons, donc à marigeri ce qui lui appartient.
Rendons, donc à marigeri ce qui lui appartient.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
et essayons de ne pas faire déraper un sujet sensible......😕
je respecte l’environnement, j’honore les gens que je rencontre et j’exprime ma gratitude envers la vie et tous les êtres vivants... parceque je sais que cahcun d'entre nous est important et que rien n'y personne ne doit être mis de côté !
as tu pensé aussi que c'était son kharma ??????
Franca
ah oui ! voilà j'y avais pas pensé au karma de ce pauvre vieux !!!!! il l'a surement mérité ! car vraiment il est pas beaucoup aidé, il devait etre la fois d'avant, un vieux rat d'égout qui s'est mal réincarné ...
En attendant une chose est certaine : si l'argent qui doit revenir au peuple thai je parle des plus modestes bien sur, ( je ne parle pas des chefs d'entreprises shino-thai ) serait moins détourné lorque celui-ci est prévus pour construire des routes, des écoles etc... ou par exemple, quant on sait que plus de la moitié des dons reçu par la thailande suite au tsusami a disparu, évaporé dans la nature, il y aurait surement des karmas qui s'amélioreraient beaucoup plus vite non??
D'aprés ma tante marthe, ce viel homme " ne serait pas nait dans le bon caniveau ! "😕
j'ai pas trés bien compris ce qu'elle voulais exprimer !? bon, c'est pas grave ...🤪
ah oui ! voilà j'y avais pas pensé au karma de ce pauvre vieux !!!!! il l'a surement mérité ! car vraiment il est pas beaucoup aidé, il devait etre la fois d'avant, un vieux rat d'égout qui s'est mal réincarné ...
En attendant une chose est certaine : si l'argent qui doit revenir au peuple thai je parle des plus modestes bien sur, ( je ne parle pas des chefs d'entreprises shino-thai ) serait moins détourné lorque celui-ci est prévus pour construire des routes, des écoles etc... ou par exemple, quant on sait que plus de la moitié des dons reçu par la thailande suite au tsusami a disparu, évaporé dans la nature, il y aurait surement des karmas qui s'amélioreraient beaucoup plus vite non??
D'aprés ma tante marthe, ce viel homme " ne serait pas nait dans le bon caniveau ! "😕
j'ai pas trés bien compris ce qu'elle voulais exprimer !? bon, c'est pas grave ...🤪
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
" Quant à celui qui a parlé de laideur ou du droit d'être ou non photographié, cela n'a rien à voir, j'accorde énormément de respect à la personne humaine et je suis contre la propagation de l'image d'autrui sans son autorisation. Si je parle avec une de ces personnes et qu'après une conversation qui aura établi un lien, si ténu soit-il, je le prends en photo, , il saura que c'est par affection et pour garder un souvenir de lui et non par voyeurisme et dans ce cas, je suis persuadée que j'aurai droit à un sourire, un vrai. "
c'est moi qui est parlé de laideur, mais j'ai dis ceci remettons les choses en place :
la phrase était " ou s'arrete la beauté et ou commence la laideur ? tout çà pour dire pourquoi n'aurait-il pas droit à etre pris en photo, meme si son karma n'est pas trés bon selon certains!😉
Ton non !! catégorique, m' a un peu heurté ! et doisneau alors ! 😠 ( s'écrit ma tante Marthe dans mon dos )il aurait fini en prison et adieu cet héritage de magnifiques photographies . il a photographié l'amour, le couple, les enfants, la famille et les miséreux aussi ... " B on je quitte ce post qui a l'air d'avoir échauffé l esprit de ma tante !! "
c'est moi qui est parlé de laideur, mais j'ai dis ceci remettons les choses en place :
la phrase était " ou s'arrete la beauté et ou commence la laideur ? tout çà pour dire pourquoi n'aurait-il pas droit à etre pris en photo, meme si son karma n'est pas trés bon selon certains!😉
Ton non !! catégorique, m' a un peu heurté ! et doisneau alors ! 😠 ( s'écrit ma tante Marthe dans mon dos )il aurait fini en prison et adieu cet héritage de magnifiques photographies . il a photographié l'amour, le couple, les enfants, la famille et les miséreux aussi ... " B on je quitte ce post qui a l'air d'avoir échauffé l esprit de ma tante !! "
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
pour moi kao san reste un petit village, et tous ces thais des provinces qui y bossent et ils gardent encore ce reespect et ces traditions, et ils doneront toujours un petit queqchose pour les plus demunis
pour moi kao san reste un petit village, et tous ces thais des provinces qui y bossent et ils gardent encore ce reespect et ces traditions, et ils doneront toujours un petit queqchose pour les plus demunis
C'est formidable de voir la difficulte qu'on la plupart des visiteurs de la Thailande a faire la part des choses. C'est-a-dire, entre ces thailandais que l'on peut cotoyer tous les jours sans peine car eternellement dans la rue a essayer de gagner leur croute au quotidien... Et les tauliers des etablissements qui comme le "disneyland" de la rue de Khao San, vous ne rencontrerez jamais ! Pourtant, ce sont ces derniers que vous enrichissez lors de vos sejours ? Donc, continuez a donner encore plus aux attendrissants mendiants car n'oubliez pas qu'ils doivent payer leur place a ceux nommes ci-dessus et verser quelques pourcentages a la Marée Chaussée qui d'un bout a l'autre de l'artere assurent votre securite... 🙂
C'est formidable de voir la difficulte qu'on la plupart des visiteurs de la Thailande a faire la part des choses. C'est-a-dire, entre ces thailandais que l'on peut cotoyer tous les jours sans peine car eternellement dans la rue a essayer de gagner leur croute au quotidien... Et les tauliers des etablissements qui comme le "disneyland" de la rue de Khao San, vous ne rencontrerez jamais ! Pourtant, ce sont ces derniers que vous enrichissez lors de vos sejours ? Donc, continuez a donner encore plus aux attendrissants mendiants car n'oubliez pas qu'ils doivent payer leur place a ceux nommes ci-dessus et verser quelques pourcentages a la Marée Chaussée qui d'un bout a l'autre de l'artere assurent votre securite... 🙂
justement le probleme est la! faut il leur donner de l'argent qu'ils se font raquetter ou bien leur donner de quoi se nourrir? je ne comprends pas non plus pourquoi ils doivent mendier puisque les temples leur donnent soit disant a manger??il y a un age décent pour le faire ! ne peuvent ils pas rester dormir en paix le soir au lieu de se trainer dans le caniveau???
a qui profite le crime???
merci pour ton post!
ça fait deux mois que je suis a bkk...je me suis promenée qu'une seule fois sur sukhumvit, et y ai gardé un très mauvais souvenir. ton post m'a donné à réfléchir, en fait à changer d'avis car je ne voulais plus y mettre les pieds, écoeurée....mais du coup je me rend compte que c'est fuir, éviter la misère, non pas pour ne garder que de bons souvenirs, mais trop lourd a voir, trop choquant...
quand j'y suis allé, je n'ai vu que des hôtels de luxe, des boutiques de luxe et des farangs, les mains pleines. mais j'y ai vu aussi, et là com a chaque fois que j'y repense, j'ai les larmes aux yeux, le coeur lourd, des remords, une femmes ss un de ces hôtels, tenant dans ses bras un enfant d'une dizaine d'année agonisant, d'une maigreur insoutenable, qu'elle carressait...j'avais le miens dans les bras tout potelé, plein de vie...je me suis mise a pleurer, mon mari m'a éloignée, mais je n'arrivais pas a partir, à laisser cet enfant...je me retourne et vois un homme sans jambes, il sanglotait, mon mari lui a donné un billet de 100bths(ainsi qu'a la mère)et il a éclater en pleure en nous saluant(wai)on le lui a rendu mais j'étais inccapable de quoi que ce soit, je n'avais jamais été confrontée a une telle misère!!mon mari m'a poussée a partir et maintenant je suis hantée par cette femme et son enfant, ce vieil homme aussi, et je n'ai rien fais de plus que donner un billet, j'aurais tant voulu permettre qu'il soit soigné, sauvé...
je vais aller le voir ton vieil homme...et lui remplir son gobelet, avec un tit sac de provisions....je regarde la rue autrement depuis, même si je n'en ai vu que dans ce quartier...
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
Lors de mes errances pédestres dans Bangkok j’ai eu l’impression qu’une part importante de la ville était bidonvilloise.
J’ai vu énormément de personnes sans toit et comparativement à leur nombre très peu de mendiants, excepté du côté de Kao San Road et d’autres quartiers riches en touristes.
C’est aussi du côté de Kao San Road que j’ai vu des mendiants une clope au bec, en dehors de ce quartier je n’ai croisé que des pauvres qui semblaient exclure la cigarette de leurs priorités.
Je ne serais pas surpris que mendier dans les quartiers touristiques soit une activité des plus lucratives et les propos d’Observateur concernant le business mendiant de KSR sont probablement justes, cette rue étant effectivement très surveillée par une police corrompue.
La misère peut exister en France et dans ce pays, que je connais moins mal que la Thaïlande, j’ai l’impression que les « dons » aux mendiants ont pour principal effet, non pas de les aider à manger (même un RMI permet de manger à sa faim en France si on dort à la rue, et c’est sans parler des soupes populaires), non pas de les aider à trouver un hébergement stable (seuls les revenus réguliers et déclarés peuvent servir de sésame à un logement), mais plutôt le plus souvent de les maintenir dans un statut de « plus malheureux que nous » en leur permettant généralement de s’enfoncer dans l’alcoolisme et le tabagisme.
J’ai bien l’impression qu’en France « donner » à un « sdf » (qui pourra parfois n’en avoir que l’apparence) c’est souvent se donner à soi-même bonne conscience.
Je connais moins bien la Thaïlande mais je ne serais pas étonné que des phénomènes analogues y aient cours.
Oui la misère financière ne retire pas à un individu son humanité mais je ne suis pas certain que tous les « dons » qu’on puisse faire à une personne apparemment démunie sur le plan matériel lui fassent vraiment du bien. Il est certainement difficile de savoir vraiment à qui on a à faire, et ce même dans son propre pays.
J’ai un ami qui a eut récemment l’occasion d’embaucher des personnes aux profils marginaux, des personnes dont les handicaps les exposaient à connaître l’exclusion sociale. Cet ami ne travaillant pas pour une entreprise philanthropique a pris de gros risques et a sans doute vraiment aidé des gens ayant un réel besoin de main tendue. Je ne sais pas si j’aurais eu son courage, je ne sais pas combien de ceux qui mettent leur pièce ou leur billet dans un gobelet auraient le courage d’embaucher une personne fortement handicapée (physiquement, psychiquement ou socialement). Etant moi-même demandeur d’emploi je ne suis pas en posture d’embaucher qui que ce soit mais je dispose d’un appartement assez grand et pourrais à la rigueur dépanner quelqu’un sur le plan de l’hébergement, or j’avoue que je n’ai pas les tripes de proposer à un sdf, ne serait-ce que pour une période limitée, d’être hébergé chez moi, chose qui pourrait pourtant sans doute l’aider à se « réinsérer » si jamais il en avait le désir.
Finalement je crois que je vais aller à la place offrir du pain à un sympathique clochard installé intelligemment devant ma boulangerie (je n’ai pas les moyens de donner une coupure à celui qui guette devant le distributeur automatique de billets). Avec une telle action je devrais pouvoir afficher une bonne conscience et écarter tout risque de me voir affubler d’une image d’égoïste –radin, quand bien même l’action en question aura probablement enfoncé davantage quelqu’un dans la marginalisation.
Nombre d’actions décrites dans cette trame semblent s’écarter de l’achat de bonne conscience mais je souhaitais quand même réagir par rapport à la description peut-être trop politiquement correcte de la mendicité qui semble oublier que celle-ci est dans bien des cas un business basé sur la culpabilité des donateurs (mendier avec des enfants ou des animaux augmente les recettes).
A propos militez-vous pour améliorer dans votre pays les conditions de vie des personnes atteintes de handicaps physiques? 🤪
J’ai vu énormément de personnes sans toit et comparativement à leur nombre très peu de mendiants, excepté du côté de Kao San Road et d’autres quartiers riches en touristes.
C’est aussi du côté de Kao San Road que j’ai vu des mendiants une clope au bec, en dehors de ce quartier je n’ai croisé que des pauvres qui semblaient exclure la cigarette de leurs priorités.
Je ne serais pas surpris que mendier dans les quartiers touristiques soit une activité des plus lucratives et les propos d’Observateur concernant le business mendiant de KSR sont probablement justes, cette rue étant effectivement très surveillée par une police corrompue.
La misère peut exister en France et dans ce pays, que je connais moins mal que la Thaïlande, j’ai l’impression que les « dons » aux mendiants ont pour principal effet, non pas de les aider à manger (même un RMI permet de manger à sa faim en France si on dort à la rue, et c’est sans parler des soupes populaires), non pas de les aider à trouver un hébergement stable (seuls les revenus réguliers et déclarés peuvent servir de sésame à un logement), mais plutôt le plus souvent de les maintenir dans un statut de « plus malheureux que nous » en leur permettant généralement de s’enfoncer dans l’alcoolisme et le tabagisme.
J’ai bien l’impression qu’en France « donner » à un « sdf » (qui pourra parfois n’en avoir que l’apparence) c’est souvent se donner à soi-même bonne conscience.
Je connais moins bien la Thaïlande mais je ne serais pas étonné que des phénomènes analogues y aient cours.
Oui la misère financière ne retire pas à un individu son humanité mais je ne suis pas certain que tous les « dons » qu’on puisse faire à une personne apparemment démunie sur le plan matériel lui fassent vraiment du bien. Il est certainement difficile de savoir vraiment à qui on a à faire, et ce même dans son propre pays.
J’ai un ami qui a eut récemment l’occasion d’embaucher des personnes aux profils marginaux, des personnes dont les handicaps les exposaient à connaître l’exclusion sociale. Cet ami ne travaillant pas pour une entreprise philanthropique a pris de gros risques et a sans doute vraiment aidé des gens ayant un réel besoin de main tendue. Je ne sais pas si j’aurais eu son courage, je ne sais pas combien de ceux qui mettent leur pièce ou leur billet dans un gobelet auraient le courage d’embaucher une personne fortement handicapée (physiquement, psychiquement ou socialement). Etant moi-même demandeur d’emploi je ne suis pas en posture d’embaucher qui que ce soit mais je dispose d’un appartement assez grand et pourrais à la rigueur dépanner quelqu’un sur le plan de l’hébergement, or j’avoue que je n’ai pas les tripes de proposer à un sdf, ne serait-ce que pour une période limitée, d’être hébergé chez moi, chose qui pourrait pourtant sans doute l’aider à se « réinsérer » si jamais il en avait le désir.
Finalement je crois que je vais aller à la place offrir du pain à un sympathique clochard installé intelligemment devant ma boulangerie (je n’ai pas les moyens de donner une coupure à celui qui guette devant le distributeur automatique de billets). Avec une telle action je devrais pouvoir afficher une bonne conscience et écarter tout risque de me voir affubler d’une image d’égoïste –radin, quand bien même l’action en question aura probablement enfoncé davantage quelqu’un dans la marginalisation.
Nombre d’actions décrites dans cette trame semblent s’écarter de l’achat de bonne conscience mais je souhaitais quand même réagir par rapport à la description peut-être trop politiquement correcte de la mendicité qui semble oublier que celle-ci est dans bien des cas un business basé sur la culpabilité des donateurs (mendier avec des enfants ou des animaux augmente les recettes).
A propos militez-vous pour améliorer dans votre pays les conditions de vie des personnes atteintes de handicaps physiques? 🤪
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
Bonjour,
tout a fait d'accord.
A propos militez-vous pour améliorer dans votre pays les conditions de vie des personnes atteintes de handicaps physiques? 🤪 : en réponse :
a méditer, réfléchir sur notre participation... plutot que de se retrancher derrière de belles phrases...... Bon week end à tous Franca
a méditer, réfléchir sur notre participation... plutot que de se retrancher derrière de belles phrases...... Bon week end à tous Franca
<< .....notre soif de survie dans le futur nous rend incapables de vivre dans le présent .....>>. Chuang TZU
je trouve le ton méprisant! nous avons exprimé ce que nous ressentons, alors que les phrases soient belles ou non on s'en fout, le but n'est pas là!!! et le contenu exprime justement une remise en question de notre participation!
alors stp avant d'envoyer bouler les autres en étant blessante, reflechis un peu! ferais-tu et penserais-tu mieux que tout le monde??? ou n'es-tu tout simplement pas capable de méditer, réfléchir et en parler en même temps? désolée de semblé agressive mais je l'ai pris com une insulte alors que j'étais sincère....et les autres aussi du reste!!
plutot que de se retrancher derrière de belles phrases......
plutot que de se retrancher derrière de belles phrases......
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
Je ne serais pas surpris que mendier dans les quartiers touristiques soit une activité des plus lucratives et les propos d’Observateur concernant le business mendiant de KSR sont probablement justes, cette rue étant effectivement très surveillée par une police corrompue.
Salut les copains🙂!
Je suis bien d accord avec toi!
Ce sujet de conversation me fait penser a cette phrase...Generaliser c est le meilleur moyen de se tromper!
De dire vous membre de vf, vous allez en vacances et vous vous en foutez des pauvres etc.C est mal connaitre les personnes qui frequentent ce forum...
A plus Lexa😎
Salut les copains🙂!
Je suis bien d accord avec toi!
Ce sujet de conversation me fait penser a cette phrase...Generaliser c est le meilleur moyen de se tromper!
De dire vous membre de vf, vous allez en vacances et vous vous en foutez des pauvres etc.C est mal connaitre les personnes qui frequentent ce forum...
A plus Lexa😎
pas besoin d aller a ksr pour voir de la misere quand a ceux que tu vois a ksr en journee tu risques de les revoir le soir du cote de nana plaza et les marches environent ne t en fait pas pour eux depuis des annees que je vais la bas dans ksr c est tjrs les memes c est la vie.........
bonjour
mais je l'ai pris com une insulte alors que j'étais sincère....et les autres aussi du reste!!
désolée si tu t'es sentie agressée, loin de moi cette pensée, ou réflexion, je parlais de certaines personnes qui ont écrit au sujet de cette discussion, si tu es sincère pourquoi te sens tu agressée alors.. ce n'était en aucun cas tourné vers toi.... je n'ai aucune prétention de penser ou réfléchir mieux que tout le monde, seulement un peu de tolérance ne peut pas faire de mal. Je te souhaite un bon week end Franca
désolée si tu t'es sentie agressée, loin de moi cette pensée, ou réflexion, je parlais de certaines personnes qui ont écrit au sujet de cette discussion, si tu es sincère pourquoi te sens tu agressée alors.. ce n'était en aucun cas tourné vers toi.... je n'ai aucune prétention de penser ou réfléchir mieux que tout le monde, seulement un peu de tolérance ne peut pas faire de mal. Je te souhaite un bon week end Franca
<< .....notre soif de survie dans le futur nous rend incapables de vivre dans le présent .....>>. Chuang TZU
Lui, c'est pas un pauvre vieux thai:
30.000 baht par mois! de midi à 19h...
Le journaliste lui dit:"mais vous pourriez faire le prof à 20/25.000 baht par mois";"oui, mais ils m'ont offert que 12h par mois, c'est mieux ici"!
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=111686
Vous pouvez soit regarder la vidéo soit lire le texte qui reprend le dialogue de la vidéo
Rien qu'une confirmation, déjà: un prof d'anglais gagne entre 20 et 25.000 baht par mois; on est loin des chiffres fantaisistes claironnés par certains "expat" français qui, bien sûr, plus fort que le môôôônde entier, gagnent des cent et des mille.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=111686
Vous pouvez soit regarder la vidéo soit lire le texte qui reprend le dialogue de la vidéo
Rien qu'une confirmation, déjà: un prof d'anglais gagne entre 20 et 25.000 baht par mois; on est loin des chiffres fantaisistes claironnés par certains "expat" français qui, bien sûr, plus fort que le môôôônde entier, gagnent des cent et des mille.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Exact un prof c'est 20 000 b par mois (pour les personnes qui parlent anglais nativement) (au mieux 25 000 si vous avez deja une experience d'enseignement et leles diplomes qui vont bien -dans les grandes ecoles privees -Saint Gabriel notament - ca peut monter un peu plus-).
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
j'ai jamais dit ça! j'ai juste constaté ce soir la que beaucoup de touristes plein de fric ne voyaient rien d'autre que ce qui les interessait c'est a dire acheter c'est juste une constatation mais ça peut faire reflechir et j'en suis bien contente
c'est mieux que de ne rien faire et de critiquer non??
loin de moi le sentiment de me sentir agresse mais c est vrai que quand tu vois des touristes depenser auttant d argent avec leur air superieur je comprends aissement ta reflection mais ne t en fais pas pour moi je reste ZEN Ste
Bonjour Thuan,
est ce que cela signifie que les personnes en grande diffculté puissent manger au temple ?
Salut🙂,
ce qui m a choque c est ton titre le VOUS qui passez sans les voir... .Le Vous, nous pointent du doigt😐! Je pense qu il aurait ete plus juste que tu ecrive CES TOURISTES QUI PASSENT SANS LES VOIR...
A plus Lexa😎
ce qui m a choque c est ton titre le VOUS qui passez sans les voir... .Le Vous, nous pointent du doigt😐! Je pense qu il aurait ete plus juste que tu ecrive CES TOURISTES QUI PASSENT SANS LES VOIR...
A plus Lexa😎
je ne comprends pas non plus pourquoi ils doivent mendier puisque les temples leur donnent soit disant a manger??il y a un age décent pour le faire ! ne peuvent ils pas rester dormir en paix le soir au lieu de se trainer dans le caniveau???
a qui profite le crime???
Parce que la plupart sont les esclaves ordinaires de la Thailande... 😕 En l'occurence, les birmans et les cambodgiens qui representent le gros du troupeau. Et dans un pays nationaliste, cela ne pardonne pas ! Donc pas droit au repas dans les pagodes... 😊
Parce que la plupart sont les esclaves ordinaires de la Thailande... 😕 En l'occurence, les birmans et les cambodgiens qui representent le gros du troupeau. Et dans un pays nationaliste, cela ne pardonne pas ! Donc pas droit au repas dans les pagodes... 😊
Et qu'est-ce qu'il y en a des vrais saletes pour leurs compatriotes, ce sont eux d'ailleurs qui ont des esclaves birmans dans leurs super baraques.
Faut voir comment ils traitent le thai non friques.
Ce n'est pas sur que celles et ceux qui sejournent quelques jours, les yeux epanouis... Puissent comprendre ! 😊
Ce n'est pas sur que celles et ceux qui sejournent quelques jours, les yeux epanouis... Puissent comprendre ! 😊
bien sur que pour connaitre la thailande et les thais, il faut rentrer dans la melée et savoir recevoir des gnons, oublier de temps en temps le sable blanc des plages, l'eau qui y est si clair que l'on peut voir au la Tour eiffel à 10 000kms de là!
et aussi et sourtout dialoguer avec les gens, les thais, de choses sérieuses et c'est souvent à ce moment là que le masque tombe ....
et aussi et sourtout dialoguer avec les gens, les thais, de choses sérieuses et c'est souvent à ce moment là que le masque tombe ....
je n'ai point d'ennemis, mais si je dois en avoir un, fais que sa force soit égale à la mienne et que seule la vérité chante victoire.
Pour donner à réfléchir !!!!, 2 personnes marchent et apperçoivent 1 escargot sur le chemin. L'un pense qu'il serait d'une bonne action de l'écarter car il pourrait se faire écraser, l'autre pense qu'au contraire, il faut le laisser là avec le risque de se faire marcher dessus, ainsi il pourra vivre son karma et peut être renaitre sous une forme meilleure, lequel a raison ?
Cher Salsa3,
Tu oublis la fin de l’histoire qui prend alors tout son sens. Je me permets de la relater tel que je la connais : Deux moines bouddhistes se promènent dans le jardin du temple. Sur leur chemin ils voient un escargot. L’un des moines veut l’écarter afin qu’il ne se fasse pas écraser et qu’il puisse poursuivre son karma et l’autre veut au contraire l’écraser afin qu’il n’aille ruiner le travail du frère jardinier. Comme aucun des deux n’arrive à convaincre son compagnon, ils décident de demander conseil à leur supérieur. Toute la discussion a été suivie par un troisième moine qui les accompagne auprès de leur supérieur. Là bas, le premier explique son point de vu avec le carma, etc… A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison et le moine s’en va content. Ensuite vient le deuxième moine et il lui explique son point de vu avec les salades du jardinier etc... A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison et le moine s’en va content. Le troisième moine qui a observé la scène vient voir le supérieur et lui reproche d’avoir donné raison aux deux moines en disant que des deux opinions différentes il devait forcement y en avoir une fausse. A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison.
Cher Salsa3,
Tu oublis la fin de l’histoire qui prend alors tout son sens. Je me permets de la relater tel que je la connais : Deux moines bouddhistes se promènent dans le jardin du temple. Sur leur chemin ils voient un escargot. L’un des moines veut l’écarter afin qu’il ne se fasse pas écraser et qu’il puisse poursuivre son karma et l’autre veut au contraire l’écraser afin qu’il n’aille ruiner le travail du frère jardinier. Comme aucun des deux n’arrive à convaincre son compagnon, ils décident de demander conseil à leur supérieur. Toute la discussion a été suivie par un troisième moine qui les accompagne auprès de leur supérieur. Là bas, le premier explique son point de vu avec le carma, etc… A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison et le moine s’en va content. Ensuite vient le deuxième moine et il lui explique son point de vu avec les salades du jardinier etc... A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison et le moine s’en va content. Le troisième moine qui a observé la scène vient voir le supérieur et lui reproche d’avoir donné raison aux deux moines en disant que des deux opinions différentes il devait forcement y en avoir une fausse. A la fin de son explication le supérieur lui confirme qu’il a raison.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
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bnjour,
c'est une réponse que j'avais déja faite a salsa3
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Bonne journée Franca
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Bonne journée Franca
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So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
Hi,
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Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
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When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
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3 nights in Bangkok
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Hi,
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I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
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Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
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Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
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Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.