Train Ayutthaya - Chiang Mai
by Mélanie04
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous partons en famille (deux enfants, 10 et 13 ans) en Thaïlande en février prochain. C'est notre premier voyage en Asie.
J'avais prévu de prendre le train de nuit de Ayutthaya jusqu'à Chiang Mai (nuit du 15/02).
Mais maintenant que j'essaie de réserver, plusieurs questions se posent :
- Le train est-il un moyen de transport vraiment sûr ? J'ai lu plusieurs informations qui m'inquiètent. Beaucoup de déraillements.
- Faut-il vraiment réserver Bangkok/Chiang Mai plutôt que Ayautthaya/Chiang Mai ? Le prix sera-t-il différent ? Cela me semblerait logique.
- J'ai trouvé un site français qui propose d'acheter les billets pour nous et de nous les envoyer chez nous. Cela a l'air très pratique. Mais j'ai cherché des informations sur ce site et je n'ai rien trouvé (ni en bien ni en mal). Pourtant, j'ai des doutes. Il me semble que les règles du forum n'autorisent pas de nommer le site. Qu'en pensez-vous ?
- Au final, je me demande : Est-ce une bonne idée de réserver un train de nuit en Thaïlande (avec ses enfants) ? Si oui, comment s'y prendre précisément ? Je sais qu'il y a déjà eu des questions similaires sur le forum mais les réponses que j'ai lues n'étaient pas assez précises pour moi.
Je remercie par avance tous ceux qui prendront le temps de répondre.
Bonjour,
Oui le train est sûr, tu n'est pas dans le tiers monde. De plus la ligne Bangkok-Chiang Mai doit être la plus utilisée du pays. Et la compagnie de train vient de mettre des trains en service flambants neufs.
Pas besoin de réserver Bangkokg/Chiang Mai. A partir d'Ayutthaya, c'est très bien.
Si tu ne trouves pas d'infos sur le site... je me méfierai. Si tu vas à Bangkok quelques jours avant de partir vers le nord, tu peux facilement rejoindre la gare par le métro pour réserver vos billets.
Pour ta dernière question... je suppose que oui mais je n'ai pas d'enfants. Peut-être que d'autres personnes pourront te répondre.
Si ca peut t'aider, on a écrit un article en pratique sur la Thailande : http://viatori.net/2016/12/18/thailandeenpratique/
Bon voyage,
Oui le train est sûr, tu n'est pas dans le tiers monde. De plus la ligne Bangkok-Chiang Mai doit être la plus utilisée du pays. Et la compagnie de train vient de mettre des trains en service flambants neufs.
Pas besoin de réserver Bangkokg/Chiang Mai. A partir d'Ayutthaya, c'est très bien.
Si tu ne trouves pas d'infos sur le site... je me méfierai. Si tu vas à Bangkok quelques jours avant de partir vers le nord, tu peux facilement rejoindre la gare par le métro pour réserver vos billets.
Pour ta dernière question... je suppose que oui mais je n'ai pas d'enfants. Peut-être que d'autres personnes pourront te répondre.
Si ca peut t'aider, on a écrit un article en pratique sur la Thailande : http://viatori.net/2016/12/18/thailandeenpratique/
Bon voyage,
www.viatori.net
Bonsoir,
Nous l'avons fait cette année avec notre fille de 8 ans. (BK/CM) Une très belle expérience et du temps de gagner. J'avais réservé les billets sur le site et ils me les ont livré directement à l'hôtel la veille du départ !
Bien se couvrir au début car la clim est à fond. Ensuite il fait meilleur quand on tire les rideaux.
Je vous recommande vraiment ce trajet 😉
Nous l'avons fait cette année avec notre fille de 8 ans. (BK/CM) Une très belle expérience et du temps de gagner. J'avais réservé les billets sur le site et ils me les ont livré directement à l'hôtel la veille du départ !
Bien se couvrir au début car la clim est à fond. Ensuite il fait meilleur quand on tire les rideaux.
Je vous recommande vraiment ce trajet 😉
Bonjour,
Prendre le train en Thailande est surtout une expérience inoubliable quand on le prend de jour. Nous avons déjà pris ce train de nuit il y a une dizaine d'années et franchement on ne renouvellerait pas. Ce forum nous a entre autres appris qu'il y a plusieurs compagnies aériennes de qualité, dont Air Asia. Le vol dure une heure et quart. Il y a des promotions plusieurs fois par an et il n'est pas rare de payer un vol aller Bangkok - Chiang Mai autour de 40 euros. Pour deux personnes, bagages inclus ! Au cas où...
Prendre le train en Thailande est surtout une expérience inoubliable quand on le prend de jour. Nous avons déjà pris ce train de nuit il y a une dizaine d'années et franchement on ne renouvellerait pas. Ce forum nous a entre autres appris qu'il y a plusieurs compagnies aériennes de qualité, dont Air Asia. Le vol dure une heure et quart. Il y a des promotions plusieurs fois par an et il n'est pas rare de payer un vol aller Bangkok - Chiang Mai autour de 40 euros. Pour deux personnes, bagages inclus ! Au cas où...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Un grand merci pour vos réponses.
Concernant les vols intérieurs, Jojoone1, j'en ai déjà réservés deux (Chiang Mai/Krabi et Krabi/Bangkok). Alors, comme la sécurité sur les rails ne semble pas être un problème, je vais choisir cette option pour varier un peu les moyens de transport.
Nous allons donc tenter notre chance avec le train et je vais aller sur le site indiqué pour faire ma réservation.
Et je vais aussi consulter le dossier spécial Thaïlande.
Encore merci. 🙂
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Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)






