.le visa a UB pour la chine posible... voir infos sur el site de l ambassade chine en mongolie... pour delai je ne sais pas maintenant... tout cela change vite dont parfois impossible de donner infos précises
par contre le transmongolien ne circule que 2/3f semain eet en été mieux avoir réserver en avance pour être sur d'avoir une place, ainsi que aux rentrées scolaires car les mongols vont aussi étudier en Chine!
une agence efficace pour reserver en avance oceantravel de pekin efficace!
mais il y a aussi la solution mini budget qui elle est quotidienne et pas besoin de réserver, ou bien un jour avant pour être sur!
DEPUIS LA CHINEPekin-U.B. avec le TRANSMONGOLIEN 1-2 fois/semaine selon saison.
Ocean Travel est une agence efficace à contacter email: oceantravelcn@yahoo.com.cn très efficace, trouve toujours une solution même au dernier moment, peut procurer places sur avion comme sur train, on retire les billets à l'agence Ocean Traval près du Square Tien an Men, paiement en avance pas CB, transfert.. Prix selon train et classe de 200$ à 400$ (2012)
A Pekin le transmongolien part de la gare appelée "Central Station". Sur les guides parfois signalée gare ferroviaire de Beijing. Ce qui ne veut pas dire grand-chose car des gares il y en a plusieurs. Celle qui nous intéresse se situe à côté du métro BEI JING ZHAN (ligne 2) et porte aussi comme nom "Beijing Railway Station"( située au sud-est de la Cité Interdite) (vérifier!)
Si malgré tout vous ne trouvez pas de billets avion ou train il vous reste la solution suivante:
OPTION MINI BUDGET: PEKIN – UB - PEKIN
- prix environ 50€ au lieu de 200-350€ (prix 2012)
- prendre le bus départ 16.00 (vérifier) prix 2009: 180 yuans (18€) pour Erlian (Ereen, Erenhot), ville frontière Chine/Mongolie. Il existe aussi une autre gare des bus à 2km au sud de la gare LuiliQiao qui a des départ pour Erlian vers 17h et même prix
- Trajet 12h environ, arrivée au petit matin, pour finir la nuit dans un hôtel prendre un taxi spécial grands bagages pour 10 yuans par personne ; ensuite de votre hôtel en Chine à la gare de train en Mongolie le coût du trajet est 90 yuans par personne
- il existe aussi un train qui relie Pékin à Erlian et Zamyn Uud (vérifier à la gare horaires, prix)
- ouverture de la douane a 9.30
-passer la douane en jeep (70 yuans par personne, se grouper) ou prendre le bus de midi pour Zamyn Uud (côté mongol)
- prendre le train quotidien pour UB ( départ Zamyn Uud à 16.00 arrive vers 7.00 UB, environ 16 €, verifier sur place)
- Idem pour retour (UB- Zamyn Uud train quotidien vers 16.00 e dim/jeu direct Ub- Erlian 12-15h trajet)
Existe aussi la solution Pekin- KHOKH KHOT - UB et retour avec changement à Jinning 2/ semaine (UB-KHOKH KHOT : lun/ven)
http://www.china-train-ticket.com/index.html#beijing , http://www.chinatripadvisor.com/english/, http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/http://www.china-train-ticket.com/
PS : A UB difficultés achat billet pour Moscou & Pékin pour transibérien et transmongolien, être prévoyant si pas trop de temps à disposition car on ne peut pas réserver sur tous les trains en avance. Attention aussi aux périodes scolaires / universitaires car places réservées en avance par les étudiants retournant en Chine ou Russie pour continuer leurs études.
PS : ATTENTION ne vous précipitez pas hors du train à peine vous arrivez à U.B c’est à ce moment là qu’opèrent les VOLEURS à la sauvette, certains de toute façon monteront à bord donc surveillez ++++ vos bagages et n’utilisez sous aucun prétexte les porteurs !
valable dans les 2 sens certes!!!!
rentre de notre 6eme voyage en mongolie donc pour plus d'infos pratiques, idees, contacts et plus voir mes apges http://www.terramonoglia.com et me contacter pour plus
absente du 30-18 juin
bon voyage et recherches
un mongol nait sous la yourte et meurt à cheval (proverbe mongol)
bonjour,
je reviens sur cet ancien post, le départ approche pour mon tour du monde (1 mars) et quelques questions se rajoute pour mon trajet vers la Mongolie.
j'arriverais à Pékin d'Indonésie en passant par Kuala Lumpur (vol prévu le 03/09) et j'aimerais faire un trajet avec le transmongolien pour la Mongolie. je retournerais après à Pékin pour descendre la chine du nord au sud. alors voila mes questions:
- ça vaut vraiment la peine le transmongolien?
- est ce qu'il est intéressant de faire des arrêts sur la route du transmongolien?
- dans quel sens c'est le plus intéressant pékin oulan bator ou oulan pékin?
- niveau visa, j'ai vu que j'ai droit à un visa transit de 3jours à Pékin mais je suppose qu'il me faut une preuve de sortie. un billet transmongolien est valable? si je fais l'option "mini budget" ça va poser problème non?
- le visa pour la Mongolie je peux le prendre à Pékin et ensuite prendre celui pour la chine à Oulan bator?
- donc je compte faire un allé ou un retour avec le transmongolien et l'autre trajet retour vers Pékin soit par avion ou soit avec ton option petit budget (en fonction du temps)
voilà, ça fait pas mal de questions mais comme vous m'avez l'air bien au courant sur la Mongolie j'en profite ;)
merci
le transmongolien fait le meme trajet dans les 2s esn et oui cela peut valoir la piene si on aime les traisn, bonne ambiance, 30h environ de trajet... a evaluer..
le mini budget peut poser problemes , els chinois ne sont aps tres arrangeants aussi... aussi on a du mal a voir uen reservation pour faire voir la sortie du territoire, mais a pekin il y a l agence ocena travel pres de tienan mem, voir sur mon site; comment y aller et on a adresse web eux peuvent surement arranger els choes, et eux peuvent reserver transmongolien, attention pas quotidien en hiver 1-2 fois semaine
se renseigner à cette agence super efficace (terramongolia.com)
oui a pekin ou même aux derneires nouvelles a erlian frontiere sino mongole on peut faire visa pour la Mongolie, il faut compter 3j ouvrables... et a Ub on peut faire visa pour la chine, eux voudront aussi une billet de sortie du terriotire chinois
un visa de transit de 3j pekin est peu pour faire des démarches y penser...
je en sais aps si ai pu expliquer mais ausis les choses changent vite et souvent les questiosn amdminsitratives sont els pires a traiter car on est souvent dans le faux d'un jour à l'autrte. une bonen solution est aussi de voir avec les sites des ambassades concernées dans le apys concernés pour avoir des confirmation
(ambasade de chine en mongolie...)
ne pas hésiter a me recontacter pour voir les soucis ou points à eclairsir..
encore uneidée: voir avec uen agence comme action visa qui pourrait être utile pour avoir certain visa ou bien expliquer commet faire ou les papiers à produire???
bon voyage
un mongol nait sous la yourte et meurt à cheval (proverbe mongol)
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire vos messages très utiles, car nous envisageons nous aussi de prendre le Transmongolien dans le sens Pékin - OulanBator, aux alentours du 5/6 Août prochain. Si j'ai bien compris les impératifs administratifs, in est nécessaires aux ressortissants Français d'avoir un visa pour la Chine, mais pas (plus) pour la Mongolie.
En revanche, savez-vous s'il y a une procédure particulière pour les Français sortant de Chine vers la Mongolie (en l'occurence par le Transmongolien), sachant que nous repartirons en France depuis OulanBator ?
Merci, et bons vents à Julienbelge pour son tour du monde !
non il ne devrait pas y avoir de lezard dnas le sens chine-mongolie! une fois le ticket de train en poche et le billet avion pour le retour depuis Ub au cas ou on vous demanderait quelque chose, on sort tranquille de la chine vers les steppes mongoles.
au besoin autres infos pratiques sur mes pages avec contacts, bons plans... www.terramongolia.com ne pas hésiter à user et abuser...
bon voyage
un mongol nait sous la yourte et meurt à cheval (proverbe mongol)
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My husband and I are heading to South Korea from September 19 to October 6. We know the timing might not be ideal because of Chuseok, but for various reasons, we didn’t have other date options. Plus, this period coincides with some festivals we’ve been eager to check out: the Andong Mask Dance Festival, the Jinju Lantern Festival, and the Hwaseong Festival in Suwon.
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So here’s my question: Given that several of our trips fall during or around festivals, will it be possible to book bus/train tickets once we’re there, or is there a risk they’ll already be sold out? Specifically for Seoul-Andong, Busan-Jinju, and Jinju-Suwon.
I was thinking of booking everything on our first day in Seoul.
And if it’s better to plan ahead, how should we go about it? I can’t seem to access the Korail (letskorail) or Kobus websites.
Thanks in advance for your answers and help—and sorry for the long post! :)
I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
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Lyon
Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
Saint-Gervais-les-Bains (with Chamonix and a day in Aosta)
Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
Hi! I’d like to make stops across France, starting from Reims, and travel by train using the Intercités. I want to discover the landscapes and picturesque villages, and make some stops along the way. Could you give me some tips? Thanks!
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
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I’m particularly interested in details on:
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- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
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Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
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Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
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b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
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A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
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HuancayoHuancayo
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We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
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I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
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We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
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Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.