Traversée par bateau France - Nouvelle-Zélande?
by Creaspray
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
j'ai 18ans, j'ai déjà été en Nouvelle-Zélande à 17ans seul et en avion pour 2 mois. Or j'aimerai essayé d'y allez ce coup si en bateau. Mais je ne cherche pas la croisière grand luxe ni même la croisière tout court.Juste un cargo ou quelque chose de ce type pour y aller.
Avez vous une idée pour trouver ce genre de transport?
Cordialement
ps:j'ai fait une recherche et je n'ai rien trouvé.
hey, je vais passer un an en nz avec un vvt et j'ai déjà pensé à ce moyen de transport, si tu as des news a propos d'un cargo qui puisse nous y emmener fais le moi savoir ;)
see u
see u
Attention les gars! Les voyages en cargo sont hors de prix. Du type 100€ minimum par jour. Sachant que le trajet dure plus d'un mois...
De plus, il n'est jamais possible d'aider ou de travailler pour réduire le coût de la traversée. C'est devenu un marché...
Lien
Bonne chance
Lien
Bonne chance
marco
Je suis très pessimiste...
D'après ce que m'ont dit de nombreux amis marins de plusieurs pays, le transport maritime de marchandises a beaucoup changé. Je crois que l'époque des voyages en cargo pour économiser le prix du billet d'avion est bel et bien révolue. La grande concurrence entre les armateurs a fait que tout est calculé pour réduire les coûts. Un passager, ça coûte de la nourriture, du carburant, de l'eau, du temps... Ca ajoute des soucis aux officiers et au capitaine car celui-ci est pénalement responsable de son équipage et des passagers. La haute mer reste dangereuse et sur les cargos les accidents ne sont pas rares. Supposons qu'un capitaine accepte un passager en dehors des "croisières" hors de prix qui se vendent parfois, ce qui serait déjà exceptionnel, je suis quasi certain que jamais un armateur ne donnera son accord. Les conditions de travail à bord peuvent s'avérer, disons... flexibles. Le code du travail, les normes de sécurité et autres conventions internationnales ne sont pas toujours respectés. Les armateurs préfèrent un minimum de publicité à ce sujet. Un équipage fonctionne un peu comme une société secrète. J'exagère à peine, mais on y accepte pas d'étranger facilement. Enfin, il existe une norme sur les bateaux, "une loi non-écrite" si tu préfères, qui dit que toute personne ou tout équipement embarqué doit être utile au travail ou à la vie à bord. Hélas, si tu ne paies pas le prix fort, cela ne serait pas ton cas. Si tu vas directement sur les quais de chargement et en admettant que la sécurité ne t'ejecte pas manu militari, tu ne trouveras pas grand monde car les marins n'ont plus le temps de rien. Les escales durent quelques heures tout au plus. Désolé pour ce tableau peu engageant, mais c'est la vérité. Bonne route
D'après ce que m'ont dit de nombreux amis marins de plusieurs pays, le transport maritime de marchandises a beaucoup changé. Je crois que l'époque des voyages en cargo pour économiser le prix du billet d'avion est bel et bien révolue. La grande concurrence entre les armateurs a fait que tout est calculé pour réduire les coûts. Un passager, ça coûte de la nourriture, du carburant, de l'eau, du temps... Ca ajoute des soucis aux officiers et au capitaine car celui-ci est pénalement responsable de son équipage et des passagers. La haute mer reste dangereuse et sur les cargos les accidents ne sont pas rares. Supposons qu'un capitaine accepte un passager en dehors des "croisières" hors de prix qui se vendent parfois, ce qui serait déjà exceptionnel, je suis quasi certain que jamais un armateur ne donnera son accord. Les conditions de travail à bord peuvent s'avérer, disons... flexibles. Le code du travail, les normes de sécurité et autres conventions internationnales ne sont pas toujours respectés. Les armateurs préfèrent un minimum de publicité à ce sujet. Un équipage fonctionne un peu comme une société secrète. J'exagère à peine, mais on y accepte pas d'étranger facilement. Enfin, il existe une norme sur les bateaux, "une loi non-écrite" si tu préfères, qui dit que toute personne ou tout équipement embarqué doit être utile au travail ou à la vie à bord. Hélas, si tu ne paies pas le prix fort, cela ne serait pas ton cas. Si tu vas directement sur les quais de chargement et en admettant que la sécurité ne t'ejecte pas manu militari, tu ne trouveras pas grand monde car les marins n'ont plus le temps de rien. Les escales durent quelques heures tout au plus. Désolé pour ce tableau peu engageant, mais c'est la vérité. Bonne route
marco
salut tout le monde j'avais pensé également à ce type de transport..mais les éclaircissements de marco sont clairs..merci bien d'ailleurs.
j'ai juste une question, savez vous s'il existe des croisières reliant l'europe (france serait idéal) à la nouvelle zélande?
je suis kiné et je me dis qu'il est peut être possible de trouver du boulot comme masseur sur ces bateaux de luxe....
merci à vous pour d'éventuels renseignements
bons voyages!
Salut Tony,
Il existe des paquebots ou des yachts prives qui font le tour du monde (par exemple le bateau "The World"), mais je ne pense pas qu'il existe des croisieres Europe-NZ ou Australie. Il est possible de travailler en tant que masseur sur ce genre de bateaux. Jette un oeil sur mon site, j'y donne quelques infos, ainsi qu'une liste d'agences de recrutement.
Par ailleurs, si tu envisages ce genre de travail pour la destination, je pense que tu perdras ton temps. Plusieurs raisons a' cela : tu ne pourras choisir ni ton embarquement ni ta destination. En fait, tu recevras un billet d'avion pour rejoindre les ports. Par exemple, si tu pars de Bordeaux : Bordeaux-Miami et San Francisco-Bordeaux. Travail sur une ou plusieurs croisiere(s) entre Miami et San Francisco. les contrats les plus courts sur paquebots ou yachts durent environ 4 mois. les recruteurs sont tres habiles pour determiner les motivations de chacun ; c'est leur metier. S'ils pensent que tu souhaites seulement aller d'un point A vers un point B, ta candidature ne sera pas retenue.
De l'Europe a' la NZ, le voyage en avion, certes bien moins romantique que le bateau, reste a' mon avis le seul moyen serieux.
Bon vent,
Il existe des paquebots ou des yachts prives qui font le tour du monde (par exemple le bateau "The World"), mais je ne pense pas qu'il existe des croisieres Europe-NZ ou Australie. Il est possible de travailler en tant que masseur sur ce genre de bateaux. Jette un oeil sur mon site, j'y donne quelques infos, ainsi qu'une liste d'agences de recrutement.
Par ailleurs, si tu envisages ce genre de travail pour la destination, je pense que tu perdras ton temps. Plusieurs raisons a' cela : tu ne pourras choisir ni ton embarquement ni ta destination. En fait, tu recevras un billet d'avion pour rejoindre les ports. Par exemple, si tu pars de Bordeaux : Bordeaux-Miami et San Francisco-Bordeaux. Travail sur une ou plusieurs croisiere(s) entre Miami et San Francisco. les contrats les plus courts sur paquebots ou yachts durent environ 4 mois. les recruteurs sont tres habiles pour determiner les motivations de chacun ; c'est leur metier. S'ils pensent que tu souhaites seulement aller d'un point A vers un point B, ta candidature ne sera pas retenue.
De l'Europe a' la NZ, le voyage en avion, certes bien moins romantique que le bateau, reste a' mon avis le seul moyen serieux.
Bon vent,
Michel
www.travailler-sur-les-yachts.blogspot.com
www.travailler-sur-les-yachts.blogspot.com
Bonjour, moi j'ai 19 ans je pars pour la nouvelle zélande en Octobre et j'aimerais bien y aller en bateau pour que se soit moins cher et je pense que sa peut etre sympa! Comme toi je trouve rien sur les recherches donc si tu trouve quelque chose merci de me le dire pour que je me renseigne!
merci
Non je n'ai rien trouvé... J'ai contacté des agences spécialisés dans le tourisme en Nouvelle Zélande et j'ai toujours reçu la même réponse.
"Nous ne proposons pas de traversée en bateau pour rejoindre la Nouvelle Zélande."
Je pense que l'avion reste le seul moyen pour y aller....
Bon voyage ;)
Bon voyage ;)
Bon ben ten pis c'est dommage merci en tout cas!!
Par contre ta pas des infos pour des billets pas trop cher meme si y faut passer par plusieurs pays?
merci
Il est possible d'y aller en cargo mais contrairement à ce que vous pensez, c'est bien plus cher que l'avion (environ 100 euros par jour, il y a bien 30 jours pour y aller).
Une agence à Paris est spécialisée dans la vente de voyages en cargo , c'est mer et voyages, voici leur site:
http://www.mer-et-voyages.info/cargo.php
Danielle
Une agence à Paris est spécialisée dans la vente de voyages en cargo , c'est mer et voyages, voici leur site:
http://www.mer-et-voyages.info/cargo.php
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Merci Danielle, effectivement c'est assez cher. Une adresse à garder sous le coude pour un futur tour du monde puisqu'il y a beaucoup d'escale!
@MarieClaire: Je n'ai pas d'astuce pour des billets pas cher, personnellement je regarde chez tous les sites de voyage et je compare minutieusement .... (je n'utilise pas la fonction "date flexible" de peur que le site me donne le billet le plus cher... à tort ou à raison...)
@MarieClaire: Je n'ai pas d'astuce pour des billets pas cher, personnellement je regarde chez tous les sites de voyage et je compare minutieusement .... (je n'utilise pas la fonction "date flexible" de peur que le site me donne le billet le plus cher... à tort ou à raison...)
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Any recommendations?
We always travel with simple accommodations
Hi everyone, we're heading to Australia next month. We have 7 days to go from Adelaide to Melbourne via the Great Ocean Road. Should we visit Kangaroo Island or not? We can't decide! Thanks for your advice.
We really want to see kangaroos and koalas in their natural habitat.
We really want to see kangaroos and koalas in their natural habitat.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to NZ at the end of January.
It’s peak season—do you think it’s necessary to book activities in advance (like a cruise to Milford Sound), or is it not essential?
Thanks
We’ll be in New Zealand starting March 15th. We’re considering renting a car from Christchurch to Auckland. We’ve read that a lot of ferries have been canceled—is that true? Would it be better to rent one car in the South Island and another in the North Island? Thanks, and happy New Year!
Hi,
When I hear our French friends talk about them, they’re the most beautiful islands in the world.
For those of you who’ve traveled extensively, is that really the case?
Are the prices for accommodation, even basic ones, justified? Isn’t a room in a family-run guesthouse at 150/200 € a bit much?
Are there other islands in Polynesia (non-French) that are just as "paradise-like" but more affordable?
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Hi everyone,
A quick introduction. I'm 27, I live in Picardy, and I'm getting married in 2017. We'd like to spend our honeymoon in French Polynesia for 3 weeks.
I'm open to all kinds of advice!!!
I think we'll use a travel agency because our work schedules don't leave us much time to organize the trip... Unless I change my mind! ;-)
But we don’t want our trip to turn into tourist clichés—we really don’t like that. That said, we *do* want to see those postcard-perfect beaches and landscapes!
We don’t dive, but I think we’ll try a beginner’s dive, and maybe even get our Level 1 certification, depending on how it goes (I read some comments about it on this forum).
Anyway, I’m looking for any information and internet links to make this trip a success.
This is THE trip of a lifetime, and it has to be perfect!
Thanks for your help!
I’m also checking out the different threads about Polynesia on this forum ;-)
Hi everyone,
What great news to read that Voyage Forum is back up and running—I’m so happy! 🙂 I need some advice for a trip we’re planning in 2025: New Caledonia and Australia.
We’ll arrive in Australia on September 1, 2025, and the plan is to spend 2 nights in Melbourne to explore the city, then rent a car to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, where we’ll arrive on September 12. Unfortunately, we won’t have time for the Great Ocean Road
I’ve checked several blogs for this route and here’s the itinerary I’ve put together:
9/4: Melbourne to Philip Island (140 km) – 1 night 9/5: Philip Island to Wilsons Promontory National Park – 2 nights 9/7: Raymond Island (free ferry to cross a 200 m sea channel) – Lakes Entrance – 1 night 9/8: Drive to Narooma (stop at Quarry Beach) – 1 night at "Bodalla Park Forest Rest Area" 9/9: Batemans Bay – Pebbly Beach – Dolphin Point – Jervis Bay – 1 night (to be found) 9/10: Jervis Bay and surroundings – 1 night at Bendeela Picnic Area 9/11: Blue Mountains National Park (1 hour from Sydney) – 1 night (to be found) 9/12: Arrival in Sydney
I know we won’t be able to see everything, and this 9-day route is just a starting point. The goal is to avoid rushing—if we see a place we like, we’ll stop, even if it means seeing less. A vacation where we don’t watch the clock too much! 🙂 Does this route (a mix of several blogs where not all stops are noted) seem realistic or too ambitious? Are there certain spots that are more worth prioritizing over the ones I’ve listed? For example, in one of the blogs I read, travelers skipped Blue Mountains National Park because they chose another site (which I’ve forgotten 😎).
For accommodation, we’ll likely be camping (free or paid), so if you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them! 😎
Our arrival in Sydney on September 12 depends on my hope to participate in the marathon on September 15, 2025. After that, we’ll leave Sydney on September 17 for Ayers Rock.
Thanks in advance for your tips and ideas—it’s always tricky to plan a route from a distance when time is limited.
And long live this site, which I’ve missed so much since 2020! 😎🙂
We’ll arrive in Australia on September 1, 2025, and the plan is to spend 2 nights in Melbourne to explore the city, then rent a car to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, where we’ll arrive on September 12. Unfortunately, we won’t have time for the Great Ocean Road
I’ve checked several blogs for this route and here’s the itinerary I’ve put together:
9/4: Melbourne to Philip Island (140 km) – 1 night 9/5: Philip Island to Wilsons Promontory National Park – 2 nights 9/7: Raymond Island (free ferry to cross a 200 m sea channel) – Lakes Entrance – 1 night 9/8: Drive to Narooma (stop at Quarry Beach) – 1 night at "Bodalla Park Forest Rest Area" 9/9: Batemans Bay – Pebbly Beach – Dolphin Point – Jervis Bay – 1 night (to be found) 9/10: Jervis Bay and surroundings – 1 night at Bendeela Picnic Area 9/11: Blue Mountains National Park (1 hour from Sydney) – 1 night (to be found) 9/12: Arrival in Sydney
I know we won’t be able to see everything, and this 9-day route is just a starting point. The goal is to avoid rushing—if we see a place we like, we’ll stop, even if it means seeing less. A vacation where we don’t watch the clock too much! 🙂 Does this route (a mix of several blogs where not all stops are noted) seem realistic or too ambitious? Are there certain spots that are more worth prioritizing over the ones I’ve listed? For example, in one of the blogs I read, travelers skipped Blue Mountains National Park because they chose another site (which I’ve forgotten 😎).
For accommodation, we’ll likely be camping (free or paid), so if you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them! 😎
Our arrival in Sydney on September 12 depends on my hope to participate in the marathon on September 15, 2025. After that, we’ll leave Sydney on September 17 for Ayers Rock.
Thanks in advance for your tips and ideas—it’s always tricky to plan a route from a distance when time is limited.
And long live this site, which I’ve missed so much since 2020! 😎🙂




