Trek toute seule au pays Dogon en septembre 2012 (Mali)
by TowA
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous!
Je vais au Mali toute seule deux semaines fin septembre, j'aimerai faire un trek au pays Dogon. Sauriez-vous comment organiser ça sans avoir déjà un groupe? quelqu'un aurait-il des conseils, un contact, une association?
Merci d'avance!
Flo
Bonsoir,
au risque d'être désagréable, j'ai un seul renseignement : n'y va pas !!!!!
Et pour plus d'information, il suffit de regarder une carte du Mali, la position géographique du pays Dogon par rapport au territoire "pris" par les "islamistes".
Sinon, le trek pourrait bien durer assez longtemps....
au risque d'être désagréable, j'ai un seul renseignement : n'y va pas !!!!!
Et pour plus d'information, il suffit de regarder une carte du Mali, la position géographique du pays Dogon par rapport au territoire "pris" par les "islamistes".
Sinon, le trek pourrait bien durer assez longtemps....
Carpe Diem
Exécution sommaire, lapidation, mains ou membres coupés, intégrisme et charia à tous les repas, enlèvement, prise d'otage.......c'est quoi qui est plus terrible ???!!
Franchement chacun est libre de ses choix mais il existe des tas d'endroits où passer du bon temps en trek et en sécurité....
Franchement chacun est libre de ses choix mais il existe des tas d'endroits où passer du bon temps en trek et en sécurité....
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oh mon dieu je viens de rattraper mon retard sur l`actualite au Mali, c`est terrible... j`espere vraiment que les choses vont s`arranger pour le peuple malien... je sors de plusieurs mois d`autarcie et j`ai decide ca sur un coup de tete apres avoir discute avec un collegue de Gambia cette apres-midi... excusez-moi j`ai eu le reflexe "voyageforum" un peu prompt :) merci en tous cas!
salut
je pense que la visite de pays dogon doit etre un peu compliqué surtout pour les blanc.merci
ben oui, même si tu pourrai "passer" Sangha sans soucis apparent c'est pas vraiment conseillé pour l'instant.
Les barbus sont partout et pourtant en juillet le drapeau malien flottait encore sur Douentza, mais y est c'est fini.
patiente un peu et ça va se réguler, les maliens ne supportent pas non plus cette situation.
Il y a juste un léger problème d'organisation gouvernementale donc on attend... tous le monde attend...
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La situation du pays dogon au mali est plus que désespérée a en croire les locaux. Il faut éviter à tout prix le coin. Trois de mes amis sont pris en otage a tombouctou depuis novembre dernier pour avoir visiblement pas écouté les recommandations des locaux. J'ai visité le mali et notamment le pays dogon en novembre dernier et n'avait eu aucun souci sinon plusieurs mises en garde de la part de la population locale de ne pas me rendre au dela de Mopti et encore moins à Gao et Tombouctou. Peut être n'ont-ils pas écouté ou pas recu ces recommandations? Le Mali était déjà en zone rouge mais le reste du pays ne présentait pas d'insécurité particulière (entre l'ambassade de france et la réalité il y a une large distance). Il suffisait de rester prudent, mais depuis la situation a changé...
Actuellement, la zone et le pays tout entier est à déconseiller et c'est bien dommage pour les locaux qui n'ont plus aucune ressources et crevent de faim dans certains coins (déjà qu'en novembre c'était pas la joie). Le village qui m'avait accueillie n'avait recu aucun touriste depuis 3 ans et je ne vous dis pas l'accueil qu'ils m'ont réservé!
le pays tout entier? non nous n'y sommes pas encore.. déconseiller TOUT le pays est une opinion trop avancée tout autant que les allusions à la zone "rouge" du MAE..
le pays vacille et s'enlise mais n'en reste pas moins le Mali avec une population fière et ne soutenant pas la situation.
la situation sur Tombouctou était prévisible déjà après la clôture du festival au désert, qui devient pour l'instant une caravane du désert, en cours de projet.
Mais les maliens sont très protecteur avec leurs visiteurs et leur recommandation sont très appréciables.
Tes amis en otage à Tombouctou, n'ont peut être pas écouté, peut être si... en matière de guerre la seule recommandation c'est de fuir ou de faire face si on en a les moyens. Hélas certains n'ont pu appliquer aucune des deux options..
a ma connaissance il n'y a plus d'otage à Tombouctou depuis novembre 2011.
Ceci dit au passage il y a juste un point qui me m’interpelle véritablement c'est le fait que tu annonces que le village qui t'a accueilli crève de faim, et en parallèle tu dis qu'il faut éviter TOUT le pays..
tu n'encouragerait pas cette famine pas cette déclaration.
Attendu que j'étais encore à Bamako en juillet et que j'y retourne dans pas trop longtemps, et jusqu'à ségou au minimum.
bien à toi
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très beau couple
quel ramassi de connerie..... encore un blaireau qui doit passer ses vacances derriere des murs a jouer au tennis avec des expats et a payer ses faux masques dogon une fortune sans negocier....
Bref....
Les islamistes sont la mais je pense que les medias nous ont beaucoup noircis me tableau....
Il vaut mieux continuer de voir les petits africains mandiller...ca rassure en temps de crise...
" A main qui donne main qui dirige......."
" A main qui donne main qui dirige......."
Le blaireau te salue.
Pour le reste de la description, ça m'a provoqué une grande crise de rire ! Merci.
Carpe Diem
Pas compliqué de connaître les méthodes des bandits intégristes, pas besoin non plus d'être guide....Et on peut critiquer Calao.....
J'ose ajouter que non seulement, je guide de temps à autre mais j'habite en Afrique de l'ouest depuis toujours.
Pour te donner du grain à moudre, mon père et mon grand père y étaient eux aussi, ça sert pas de référence mais ça permet effectivement de savoir de quoi on parle. 😎
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Salut le Blaireau😠😏,
Le Messié Hallawané, il a pas du lire la date de ton post ou tu parlais des lapidations, donc comme dit ma petite fille c'est celui qui dit qu'il est!!!
Le Messié Hallawané, il a pas du lire la date de ton post ou tu parlais des lapidations, donc comme dit ma petite fille c'est celui qui dit qu'il est!!!
Effectivement il a été question dans les medias vu de France d'attaques isolées à Gao.....
Je ne pense pas queles barbus fassent des "razias" dans les villages dogons au pieds de la falaise de Bandiagara.....
Pour ce qui est des guides, lors de mon derniers voyages j'avais 22 ans je voyageais seul et on m'a imposé un guide qui était guere plus vieux que moi et dont les connaissances sur les dogons ne depassaient pas le contenu du guide du routard..... Pour vous dire....
Voila tout...
Je suis conscient que le peuple malien subit une grave crise depuis quelques années mais il sortira la tête haute de cette invasion....
Bonjour
En effet, je pense que les " barbus" n'oseront pas s'aventurer au Pays Dogon, ni même ou même plus bas, mais??? j'ai eu hier au téléphone mon fils adoptif qui habite et a une entreprise a Ségou, il n'est gère optimiste quant au devenir du Pays dans l'état actuel des choses, et a priori beaucoup de maliens sont assez déçus de leur nouveau président de la république, d'ailleurs il n'y a pas qu'eux...dans ce cas. Je suis moi même retournée en début d'année au Mali, voir mon post "Retour au Mali après 2 ans d'absence", et je me suis sentie parfaitement a l'aise, mais hormis des habitués ou quelques petites associations, je ne crois malheureusement pas au retour des touristes avant plusieurs années. Bonne journée
En effet, je pense que les " barbus" n'oseront pas s'aventurer au Pays Dogon, ni même ou même plus bas, mais??? j'ai eu hier au téléphone mon fils adoptif qui habite et a une entreprise a Ségou, il n'est gère optimiste quant au devenir du Pays dans l'état actuel des choses, et a priori beaucoup de maliens sont assez déçus de leur nouveau président de la république, d'ailleurs il n'y a pas qu'eux...dans ce cas. Je suis moi même retournée en début d'année au Mali, voir mon post "Retour au Mali après 2 ans d'absence", et je me suis sentie parfaitement a l'aise, mais hormis des habitués ou quelques petites associations, je ne crois malheureusement pas au retour des touristes avant plusieurs années. Bonne journée
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Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra






