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Trois semaines en Argentine-Chili
by Bamboo06
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous
aprés des heures de lectures je me décide enfin !!!!
aprés plusieurs voyages en Asie, je me dirige vers l'amerique du sud pour la première fois.
En Mars 2009 je prévois un vol Paris/BA puis direction peninsule de Valdes, El Calafate, Bariloche, puis passage au Chili et remontée sur Santiago en voiture et/ou bus ...
Les irréductibles des voyages au long cours diront que 3 semaines c'est trop court mais, faut bien travailler pour les prochains départ!!!...😉
Avez-vous des conseils sur les transports, les distances et hébergements ???
Je lis peu de commentaires sur les gens là-bas ...qu'en est-il ? les contacts avec les gens locaux sont trés importants pour moi...
Merci d'avance pour vos expériences....
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un grand voyage commence toujours par un premier petit pas ....
ce n'est pas les trois semaines qui sont trop courtes, c'est tout ce qu'on veut faire dans ce délais..
je ne connais pas la peninsule de Valdes, mais je crois que mars n'est pas l'époque des baleines par ex..
De là vers Bariloche ou El calafate, c'est loin!!! et un peu monotone.
Je connais surtout El calafate De là, une visite au parc national des glaciers, au Fitz roy (pres d'el Chalten) et au Perito Moreno demande 5J
Le Chili est proche, et il y a le parc nat des Torres del paine ainsi que le glacier Grey à voir.. La remontée vers Santiago est longue et merite des arrets. Valparaiso aussi...
Je compte y retourner en solo (là j'étais en formule trek en groupe), mais ce que tu veux faire, je ne le ferais pas à moins de 30j Bonvoyage.
Le Chili est proche, et il y a le parc nat des Torres del paine ainsi que le glacier Grey à voir.. La remontée vers Santiago est longue et merite des arrets. Valparaiso aussi...
Je compte y retourner en solo (là j'étais en formule trek en groupe), mais ce que tu veux faire, je ne le ferais pas à moins de 30j Bonvoyage.
merci pour tes conseils, on ferra surement trelew/el calafate par avion ainsi que el calafate/bariloche en avion si les connex. sont possibles sans repasser par BA. Je n'ai pas envie de rester les 3 sem. en Patagonie, donc j'hésite un peu... de plus le NOA argentin est trés pluvieux à cette période . En fait 3 semaines, c'est trop court ...ou trop long 😉
un grand voyage commence toujours par un premier petit pas ....
😏j'ai fait deux voyages de trois semaines, c'est correct mais il faut cibler.Je ne me déplace qu'en bus et tout est loin il ne faut pas être trop gourmand.Au Chili on se loge assez facilement chez l'habitant, nuit et desayuno, en Argentine il y a plein d'hospedajes très propres et sympas.A titre d'exemple, premier voyage:Santiago, Valparaiso La Serena et sa région puis Santiago, Mendoza, Cordaba, Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay), B.Aires.Récemment, Santiago, SanPedro de Atacama(superbe), traversée des Andes vers Salta(magnifique), NOA puis descente vers Mendoza par Cafayate.De Mendoza retour à Santiago.Chaque fois en trois semaines sans trop s'affoler.
Merci pour ce message.
Nous aimerions partir 6 semaines en milieu février 2009. Pourriez-vous nous dire vos coups de coeur pour ce très grand pays. Nous pensons voyager en autobus, avion et louer une voiture arriver à certaines destinations. Nous sommes du Québec et ne pensons pas y retourner une 2ième fois alors nous ne voulons pas manquer de sites intéressants.
Je vous remercie.
Nous aimerions partir 6 semaines en milieu février 2009. Pourriez-vous nous dire vos coups de coeur pour ce très grand pays. Nous pensons voyager en autobus, avion et louer une voiture arriver à certaines destinations. Nous sommes du Québec et ne pensons pas y retourner une 2ième fois alors nous ne voulons pas manquer de sites intéressants.
Je vous remercie.
😏Bonjour, je ne connais pas le sud mais au nord du Chili San Pedro de Atacama vaut le déplacement, les sites à visiter sont grandioses.Si on peut ajouter la traversée des Andes vers Salta c'est magnifique.Bon voyage
Buenos dias
Effectivement faire ce grand tour en 3 semaines eST faisable, mais alors tu va survoler brievement l'ensemble Concentres, toi sur qq destinations Valdes en Mars, les baleines n'y sont plus, mais à punta tombo (à 100km) tu pourras encore voior des milliers de manchots
Calafate, et le perito moreno à ne pas louper à ce moment du voyage tu as déjà fait un tiers de ton parcours en temps, sinon plus Remonter à Bariloche, en avion c'est bien mais pour y faire quoi, descends plutot à Ushuaia et remonte vers le nord ensuite pour ralier le chili ( en avion)et faire qu'une seule étape mais intéressante, comme la région des lacs et chiloé tout proche Tout ça est bien sur virtuel, car comme le disent les autres voyageurs les distances sont énormes et ça prend pas mal de temps et tu ne pourras guère improviser Quand aux argentins ou chiliens ils sont absolument formidables, et ça c'est notre plus beau souvenir
Boubar la patagonie en combi VW http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chancelaye83/
Effectivement faire ce grand tour en 3 semaines eST faisable, mais alors tu va survoler brievement l'ensemble Concentres, toi sur qq destinations Valdes en Mars, les baleines n'y sont plus, mais à punta tombo (à 100km) tu pourras encore voior des milliers de manchots
Calafate, et le perito moreno à ne pas louper à ce moment du voyage tu as déjà fait un tiers de ton parcours en temps, sinon plus Remonter à Bariloche, en avion c'est bien mais pour y faire quoi, descends plutot à Ushuaia et remonte vers le nord ensuite pour ralier le chili ( en avion)et faire qu'une seule étape mais intéressante, comme la région des lacs et chiloé tout proche Tout ça est bien sur virtuel, car comme le disent les autres voyageurs les distances sont énormes et ça prend pas mal de temps et tu ne pourras guère improviser Quand aux argentins ou chiliens ils sont absolument formidables, et ça c'est notre plus beau souvenir
Boubar la patagonie en combi VW http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chancelaye83/
merci Boubar pour ta réponse, surtout à propos des argentins et chiliens .
C'est curieux comme sur les forums on trouve peu de sentiments sur les gens rencontrés...
C'est pour moi super important et conditionne tout le voyage, il est vrai aussi que j'ai rarement vu des gens "faire la gueule " ...ailleurs que chez nous ! ouaouhh ! 😉
cela dit, on me conseille vivement aussi le NOA mais je lis qu'en Mars les routes peuvent etre coupées because la pluie, d'autres disent que c'est surtout Janvier..... Bouhouh je suis perdue.... On en a des problemes dans la vie !!!!😉😛.
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cela dit, on me conseille vivement aussi le NOA mais je lis qu'en Mars les routes peuvent etre coupées because la pluie, d'autres disent que c'est surtout Janvier..... Bouhouh je suis perdue.... On en a des problemes dans la vie !!!!😉😛.
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un grand voyage commence toujours par un premier petit pas ....
Re bamboo
C'était notre deuxième séjour en Argentine, et je peux te confirmer que l'accueil est trés trés chaleureux de la part des Argentins et des Chiliens
c4EST vrai qu'en avion c'est possible, mais si tu veux rencontrer et parler avec eux, ne court pas dans tout les sens, ce qui ne n'apportera pas grand chose .
Prends ton temps, et va à leurs rencontres tu ne le regrettrera pas
S'il à peu de commentaires sur les gens, c'est parce que les voyageurs couurent aprés les sites à voir, ( attention de ne pas faire parti de ceux là) et ne prennent pas le temps de rencontrer les vrais autochtones.
Si tu vas à Valdes, prends le temps d'aller à Florentino Améghino ( à 100km) et va voir Oscar, à l'auberge DON SEGUNDO, en lui disant que tu viens de ma part, tu y sera accueilli les bras ouverts ( voir mes carnets de voyage)
C'est pourquoi je te redis vas dans des endroits peu fréquentés et là tu fera des rencontres magiques et tu pourras dire sur le forum, OUI, j'ai rencontré des gens formidables, mais pour celà j'ai cherché l'authentique, et je suis sorti des sentiers battus, et au fin fond de la pampa, j'ai rencontré Estéban, un gars avec qui nous avons partagé le maté et que je n'oublierai pas; Là, tu auras fais un beau voyage et tu pensera souvent à lui comme à tant d'autres.......
Quand à aller dans le nord, il va te falloir prolonger ton séjour si tu veux y aller ( ne te disperses pas)
Pour finir, y pas que des problèmes, dans la vie, y a que des solutions et je t'en propose une .....pour le reste à toi de voir
Hasta luego y buena suerte ( bonne chance) Boubar
Si tu vas à Valdes, prends le temps d'aller à Florentino Améghino ( à 100km) et va voir Oscar, à l'auberge DON SEGUNDO, en lui disant que tu viens de ma part, tu y sera accueilli les bras ouverts ( voir mes carnets de voyage)
C'est pourquoi je te redis vas dans des endroits peu fréquentés et là tu fera des rencontres magiques et tu pourras dire sur le forum, OUI, j'ai rencontré des gens formidables, mais pour celà j'ai cherché l'authentique, et je suis sorti des sentiers battus, et au fin fond de la pampa, j'ai rencontré Estéban, un gars avec qui nous avons partagé le maté et que je n'oublierai pas; Là, tu auras fais un beau voyage et tu pensera souvent à lui comme à tant d'autres.......
Quand à aller dans le nord, il va te falloir prolonger ton séjour si tu veux y aller ( ne te disperses pas)
Pour finir, y pas que des problèmes, dans la vie, y a que des solutions et je t'en propose une .....pour le reste à toi de voir
Hasta luego y buena suerte ( bonne chance) Boubar
re boubar
les problemes de la vie ...c'était du 2° ou 3° degrés....c'est un vrai cadeau que de n'avoir qu'à se poser des questions sur mes trajets de voyages (ou presque...)
je ne vais effectivement pas trop me disperser ...un verre de maté ça ne se refuse pas !
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un grand voyage commence toujours par un premier petit pas ....
Salut à tous !
Pour commencer c'est un très beau voyage que tu vas faire. Le contact avec les locaux se fait très facilement, les argentins sont chaleureux du Nord au Sud. En Mars à la Peninsula Valdès, il y aura pas de baleine, si c'est ce que tu recherche, par contre des colonnies d'elephant de mer, pinguoins.... après pour aller à El Calafate tu devras passé par Rio Gallegos (passage obligé...) mais si je serais toi, peut-être ça serais bien d'aller direct de puerto Madryn vers Bariloche, renseigne toi si c possible.... après Bariloche, tu vas adoré le parc Nahuel Huapi, il y a de super trek de 4 jours à faire, sans trop de difficulté pour un débutant, vers le lago Frias. Et je reviens à El Calafate, ne pas passé dans voir Le Perito Moreno, et de jolie balade à El Chaten. Ensuite, au Chili, il y a Chiloë, dont j'ai eut que de bons échos.
Tu peux consulter mon site, il y a quelques infos qui peuvent t'intéresser.
j'ai juste à te souhaiter bon voyage, suerte !!!
Jérémie
Pour commencer c'est un très beau voyage que tu vas faire. Le contact avec les locaux se fait très facilement, les argentins sont chaleureux du Nord au Sud. En Mars à la Peninsula Valdès, il y aura pas de baleine, si c'est ce que tu recherche, par contre des colonnies d'elephant de mer, pinguoins.... après pour aller à El Calafate tu devras passé par Rio Gallegos (passage obligé...) mais si je serais toi, peut-être ça serais bien d'aller direct de puerto Madryn vers Bariloche, renseigne toi si c possible.... après Bariloche, tu vas adoré le parc Nahuel Huapi, il y a de super trek de 4 jours à faire, sans trop de difficulté pour un débutant, vers le lago Frias. Et je reviens à El Calafate, ne pas passé dans voir Le Perito Moreno, et de jolie balade à El Chaten. Ensuite, au Chili, il y a Chiloë, dont j'ai eut que de bons échos.
Tu peux consulter mon site, il y a quelques infos qui peuvent t'intéresser.
j'ai juste à te souhaiter bon voyage, suerte !!!
Jérémie
Je voyage chaque année à vélo par période de 3/4 mois.
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Si tu permets un avis, et je pense q si tu écris, c'est pour avoir des points de vue- libre à toi de ne pas les suivre!!!- je ne pense pas q tu fasses le meilleur choix en passant par la peninsule de Valdes en mars. Il vaudrait mieux eliminer et aller directement à El Calafate en prenant 2 ou 3 jours pour faire une incursion a El Chalten. Avec 3 semaines pour tout cela, il te sera nécessaire de prendre l'avion de B Aires à El Calafate ou au moins à Rio Gallegos. Il doit y avoir quelques 3000km!. Par contre la route entre Rio Gallegos et El Calafate fait 300 km. Méfie toi aussi des difficultés que tu pourras avoir pour faire directement en bus El Calafate / Bariloche. Je ne me souviens plus exactement mais il me semble qu'il y a peu de liaison ou pas du tout. A vérifier! D'autre part, les voitures de location sont hors de prix ou impossibles si tu ne la laisses pas à l'agence où tu as prise. Si tu as besoin de discuter et si tu as un fixe, je peux t'appeler . De plus nous sommes voisins ou presque... mon mail perso: nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr si tu souhaites me donner ton téléphone. A bientôt peut-être.
Si tu permets un avis, et je pense q si tu écris, c'est pour avoir des points de vue- libre à toi de ne pas les suivre!!!- je ne pense pas q tu fasses le meilleur choix en passant par la peninsule de Valdes en mars. Il vaudrait mieux eliminer et aller directement à El Calafate en prenant 2 ou 3 jours pour faire une incursion a El Chalten. Avec 3 semaines pour tout cela, il te sera nécessaire de prendre l'avion de B Aires à El Calafate ou au moins à Rio Gallegos. Il doit y avoir quelques 3000km!. Par contre la route entre Rio Gallegos et El Calafate fait 300 km. Méfie toi aussi des difficultés que tu pourras avoir pour faire directement en bus El Calafate / Bariloche. Je ne me souviens plus exactement mais il me semble qu'il y a peu de liaison ou pas du tout. A vérifier! D'autre part, les voitures de location sont hors de prix ou impossibles si tu ne la laisses pas à l'agence où tu as prise. Si tu as besoin de discuter et si tu as un fixe, je peux t'appeler . De plus nous sommes voisins ou presque... mon mail perso: nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr si tu souhaites me donner ton téléphone. A bientôt peut-être.
Nicole
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Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?