Trouver de bonnes agences locales et excursions au Vietnam?
by Thierry82
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je suis en train de préparer mon voyage au Vietnam pour cet été, et à la lecture du Routard et du Lonely Planet, je suis un peu embrouillé... Il semble que pour les excursions avec les agences locales on puisse tomber sur le meilleur et le pire. Comment s' y fier ? Si vous avez déjà expérimenté des agences locales pour les excursions baie d' Along, Hoi Han au départ de Danang, croisière Rivière des Parfums à Hué ou delta du Mekong en deux jours-1 nuit, pouvez-vous me dire avec quelle agence vous les avez faites et si vous en êtes satisfait ? Je préfère payer un petit peu plus cher mais être sûr de la qualité des prestations. Merci par avance à qui voudra bien me faire part de son expérience et de ses conseils. Thierry
Thierry
Ca fait 3 ans que je sillonne le Vietnam du nord en utilisant ODC Travel pour mes tours (comme j'ai le temps, je commence par prendre des excursions organisees et ensuite je retourne en solo (jeep et chauffeur ou bus public) pour ou j'ai envie de rester + longtemps. Toutes les excursions ODC sont un peu + cheres que la normale, mais sans reproche (les -cheres rognent sur la bouffe -qui peut etre degueu- et les kms). A noter l'impossibilite de visiter la baie d'Along en solo a cause des histoires de bateau et d'arnaque systematique si on se pointe tout seul. Pas besoin de s'organiser a l'avance; tous les hotels ont les connections necessaires et arrangent tout sur place. Pour des tours qui sortent de l'ordinaire, voir le site "voyage-au-vietnam.net". A Saigon, j'ai utilise les services IMPECS de Millenium Travel/TNK Travel (1 jour Mekong et 1j Tay Ninh/Cu Chi) 216 De Tham (la rue des Routards, le Kao San de Saigon a moins ringuard)
PS. Se mefier des guides; ils racontent souvent des conn. surtout Lonely Planet qui s'est vraiment gonfle la tete. Preferer le Routard, plus cultive, et qui signale les restaux et hotels "francophones", bien pratique car ces gens la adorent rencontrer des francais (a moins qu'ils ne se balladent en faisant la gueule comme de nombreux que je croise... Mon dieu mon dieu, qu'est-ce-qui "bouffe" les francais ces temps-ci?).
PS. Se mefier des guides; ils racontent souvent des conn. surtout Lonely Planet qui s'est vraiment gonfle la tete. Preferer le Routard, plus cultive, et qui signale les restaux et hotels "francophones", bien pratique car ces gens la adorent rencontrer des francais (a moins qu'ils ne se balladent en faisant la gueule comme de nombreux que je croise... Mon dieu mon dieu, qu'est-ce-qui "bouffe" les francais ces temps-ci?).
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Se méfier des guides, surtout du Routard ;-)
Tout va très vite dans les pays émergeant. Les guides, même récents, donnent souvent des informations obsolètes, spécialement en ce qui concerne les prix, l'inflation est galopante et les guides n'en tiennent pas compte. Si vous avez un guide imprimé en début 2008, les enquêtes (quand il y en a eu) sur place datent de plus d'un an ou deux.
Pour les agences, elles sont légion et proposent pratiquement toutes les mêmes circuits. Si vous avez un peu de temps, prenez le temps d'en visiter, posez vos questions et allez au feeling. Comme pour tout, il y a des catégories de prix, et ne rêvez pas, les moins chers ne pourront pas vous offrir du sur-mesure.
"Share what you know, learn what you don't"
PS. Se mefier des guides; ils racontent souvent des conn. surtout Lonely Planet qui s'est vraiment gonfle la tete. Preferer le Routard, plus cultive, et qui signale les restaux et hotels "francophones", bien pratique car ces gens la adorent rencontrer des francais (a moins qu'ils ne se balladent en faisant la gueule comme de nombreux que je croise... Mon dieu mon dieu, qu'est-ce-qui "bouffe" les francais ces temps-ci?).
justement !
c'est le routard qu'il ne faut absolument pas utiliser 🤪
autre conseil, eviter les sinh cafe et kim cafe, jadis, les enseignes originelles etaient de bonnes references et comme ce ne sont pas des marques deposees, de nombreuses agences douteuses sur hanoi et saigon ont egalement ouvert sous ce nom... elles vendent des prestations cage a lapins qui deversent des autocars entiers de clients avec des prestations minables a des prix ultra agressifs
justement !
c'est le routard qu'il ne faut absolument pas utiliser 🤪
autre conseil, eviter les sinh cafe et kim cafe, jadis, les enseignes originelles etaient de bonnes references et comme ce ne sont pas des marques deposees, de nombreuses agences douteuses sur hanoi et saigon ont egalement ouvert sous ce nom... elles vendent des prestations cage a lapins qui deversent des autocars entiers de clients avec des prestations minables a des prix ultra agressifs
slt,
tout a fait d'accord pour le sinh et le kim cafe pour le delta voir avec nature-mekong, un couple franco-vietnamien super sympa qui organise des tours a la carte et tu peux etre logé dans leurs chambres d'hotes.
Pour ce qui est des guides de toutes façon tu verras que les touristes ont au choix le lonely ou le routard qui est plutot bien fait pour le vietnam (réalise de plus par un redacteur super sympa!!!) et quelques rough guide egarés donc si tu choisis un hotel parmi ceux-ci tu tomberas forcement sur des français et des anglosaxons .
boris
Bonjour,
C'est vrai qu'il faut se mefier de certaine agence, je le sais de source sûr, on m'a expliqué comment ca se passait! J'ai des contact a Hanoi en qui on peut faire entièrement confiance et les desirs sont exaucés pour un prix très interessant. Je respecte les autres donc je reste discrete sur le forum public, ca me semble normal !
Chantal
C'est vrai qu'il faut se mefier de certaine agence, je le sais de source sûr, on m'a expliqué comment ca se passait! J'ai des contact a Hanoi en qui on peut faire entièrement confiance et les desirs sont exaucés pour un prix très interessant. Je respecte les autres donc je reste discrete sur le forum public, ca me semble normal !
Chantal
Bonjour,
Nous sommes actullement a Hue et nous souhaitons effectuer une croisiere de 2/3 jours sur la baie d halong et celle de Tu Long qui parait il est tres belle egalemenebt.Nous cherchons des croisieres qui combinebt les 2 mais c est pas evident., Et que penses tu de l ile de Cat Ba au large de la baie d Hanoi. y a t il du monde ? des anglo saxons ?
Et concernant Tam Coco, la baie d halong terrestre, qu en penses tu ? est ce que ca merte le detour et les tracasseries touristiques de nos amis les vietnamiens ?
Si tu as des contacts, c est avec plaisir.
Je te remercie
Cyrille Freyburger cyrillefreyburger@hotmail.com
Je te remercie
Cyrille Freyburger cyrillefreyburger@hotmail.com
Annabel & Cyrille
Asie 2008
Je t'envoi toutes les coordonnées de mon ami !
slt,
pour l'avoir rencontré plusieurs fois je peux aussi attester qu'il connait parfaitement cette destination, marié a une vietnamienne il parle la langue couramment ce qui facilite et il m'avait donnés de bons tuyaux, maintenant les guides frommers sont effectivement de bons guides!!!!
par contre les guides ne sont pas des bibles et surtout sur ce genre de destination ou, vu la croissance du pays, les prix changent enormement et a une vitesse qui rend tout guide dépassé trés rapidement.
de plus certains hoteliers et restaurateurs qui soudain voient arrivés des tas de touristes changent et de comportement et de prix!!!!
meme dans un LP australie (destination pourtant majeure pour eux) qui venait de sortir, il conseillait un super hotel sur darwin, quelle surprise en arrivant.....il etait fermé...depuis 6mois!!!!
tout n'est donc pas parfait dans ces guides (GDR et LP) mais ils restent somme toute les meilleurs sur la destination comparativement a d'autres que je ne cite meme pas.
cdt
boris
de plus certains hoteliers et restaurateurs qui soudain voient arrivés des tas de touristes changent et de comportement et de prix!!!!
les hotels serieux ne pratiquent qu'un changement de prix par an
c'est sur que si tu frequentes des hotels vietnamiens, le prix est a la tete du client...
les hotels serieux ne pratiquent qu'un changement de prix par an
c'est sur que si tu frequentes des hotels vietnamiens, le prix est a la tete du client...
Voir mon recent message "Tam Coc, Vietnam du Nord" qui explique tout en detail
PS. Celui qui ecrit que les hotels vietnamiens font payer a la tete du client doit vraiment avoir une tete a se faire rouler. Ce ne m'est jamais arriver en 6 mois (au total) de sillonnage du pays! De toute facon, se fait rouler qui veut bien; il suffit de verifier les prix AVANT et de dire "au revoir" si ca sent l'arnaque; c'est pas les hotels qui manquent, ni les agences de voyages, de location, etc.
PS. Celui qui ecrit que les hotels vietnamiens font payer a la tete du client doit vraiment avoir une tete a se faire rouler. Ce ne m'est jamais arriver en 6 mois (au total) de sillonnage du pays! De toute facon, se fait rouler qui veut bien; il suffit de verifier les prix AVANT et de dire "au revoir" si ca sent l'arnaque; c'est pas les hotels qui manquent, ni les agences de voyages, de location, etc.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Salut Thierry,
Il y a une agence locale qui est pas mal. Je suis passé par eux lorsque j'étais sur place ça s'est très bien passé. Je les ai rencontré au hasard quand j'étais à Saigon. Ils ont l'avantage d'être francophone.
Contacte les et je suis qu'ils vont te proposer qqch en retour. A toi de décider par la suite.
L'agences s'appelle Lotus Voyages je crois, le site est www.lotusvoyages.com
Si tu as des questions, n'hésite pas à me contacter
A+
Il y a une agence locale qui est pas mal. Je suis passé par eux lorsque j'étais sur place ça s'est très bien passé. Je les ai rencontré au hasard quand j'étais à Saigon. Ils ont l'avantage d'être francophone.
Contacte les et je suis qu'ils vont te proposer qqch en retour. A toi de décider par la suite.
L'agences s'appelle Lotus Voyages je crois, le site est www.lotusvoyages.com
Si tu as des questions, n'hésite pas à me contacter
A+
Bonjour,
C'est vrai qu'il faut se mefier de certaine agence, je le sais de source sûr, on m'a expliqué comment ca se passait! J'ai des contact a Hanoi en qui on peut faire entièrement confiance et les desirs sont exaucés pour un prix très interessant. Je respecte les autres donc je reste discrete sur le forum public, ca me semble normal !
Chantal
C'est vrai qu'il faut se mefier de certaine agence, je le sais de source sûr, on m'a expliqué comment ca se passait! J'ai des contact a Hanoi en qui on peut faire entièrement confiance et les desirs sont exaucés pour un prix très interessant. Je respecte les autres donc je reste discrete sur le forum public, ca me semble normal !
Chantal
Que voulez-vous dire par "faire le Nord en 3 jours" ? C'est absolument impossible, à moins que vous ne vous contentiez d'un AR en train de nuit à Sapa, le plus facile à faire, EN PLUS d'Halong, qui prend déjà 2 jours vu qu'il faut 7 heures de trajet AR pour y arriver
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
EN FAIT, voila notre programme par une agence plus deux jours 1/2 de visite à Hanoï par nos propres moyens. Qu'en pensez vous? Que pouvons nous rajouter?Nous sommes six femmes, la soixantaine..
Jour 1 - 8 mars 2012 : TRAIN DE NUIT À LAO CAI( sans repas)Transfert libre à la gare pour prendre le train à Lao Cai ( 4 lits /cabine)
Jour 2 – 9 mars : LAO CAI – LAO CHAI – TA VAN (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Arrivée a la gare de Lao Cai vers 05h. Accueil a la sortie de la gare, puis transfert a Sapa en voiture privée.
Apres le petit déjeuner et repos, marche sur chemin facile de 6 km vous conduit de la ville de Sapa au village des Hmong Noir : Lao Chai . Ce village se trouve au milieu d’un beau paysage, face au Mont Fansipan 3143m d’altitude
Puis vous continuez le chemin pour le village de Ta Van qui possède une grande forêt de bambou. Ce village est divisé en trois parties : près de la rivière les Giay, à mi-pente les Dao Rouge (avec de larges chapeaux rouges à pompons) et au plus haut du village les Hmong Noir.
Déjeuner dans une maison d’hôte au milieu du village. Nuit à maison d’hotes à Ta Van.
Jour 3 – 10 mars : TA VAN – SAPA - BAC HA (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Retour à Sapa en voiture pour visiter les 2 marchés de Sapa (marché normal et marché artisanal des minorités) et faire vos emplettes. Dejeuner a Sapa.
Transfert à Bac Ha en voiture privee ( 130km). Diner et nuit à Bac Ha.
Jour 4 – 11 mars ( dimanche) : BAC HA – LAO CAI – TRAIN POUR RETOUR HA NOI (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Apres petit dejeuner à l’hotel: un bon moment pour visiter le marché traditionnel de Bac Ha qui a lieu seulement le dimanche où des différents ethnies comme H'Mong fleur, Phu La, Dao noir... y viennent pour acheter et vendre leur produits. Vous aurez l’occasion de contempler les costumes colores et splendides des Hmong Fleuries. C’est aussi l’occasion de faire la fête avec beaucoup de vin de maïs, atour d’un grande poêle de fondu de cheval… Quitter le marché, vous faites un ballade en bateau sur la riviere Chay, le rendez vous est surprenant car perdu dans la montagne. Vous decouvrez un paysage magnifique tout au long du trajet, les villages vivant sur les deux cote des deux rives, les falaises féeriques, les grottes. Dejeuner encours de balade. Votre voiture vous prendra à la fin du voyage pour transfert a Lao Cai. Diner et prendre le train pour retour Ha Noi.
Jour 5 – 12 mars : HA NOI – CAT BA – BAIE LAN HA ET D’HALONG – JONQUE PRIVEE STANDARD 3 CABINES (petit déj ; dej ; diner)Le chauffeur et le guide francophone vous rencontrent à la gare pour le transfert de Ha Noi à l’île de Cat Ba. Arrivée à Cat Ba et embarquement sur jonque privée. Déjeuner de fruits de mer pendant que la jonque traverse la petite baie de Lan Ha, site protégé du Parc National de Cat Ba, rarement visitée par les bateaux de croisière de groupe. Nous entrons ensuite dans la célèbre baie d’Halong en direction des îles isolées, en croisant dans des passages inaccessibles aux grands bateaux de groupe. Possibilité de se baigner, de pêcher et de découvrir la baie en kayak. à bord. Visite du lagon de Hang Ca, accessible en traversant un tunnel en petite barque ou en kayak selon la jonque. Dîner de fruits de mer et nuit à bord dans la baie de Lan Ha. Jour 6- 13 mars :BAIE DE LAN HA – NINH BINH – TAM COC (petit déj ; dej ;diner)Petit déjeuner à bord. Navigation dans la baie de Lan Ha, en s’approchant au plus près des plus beaux pics et rochers. Visite d’un village de pecheur baignade, kayaking, etc. Déjeuner à bord. Débarquement à Cat Ba vers 12h00, puis bateau rapide pour retour à Hai Phong. Transfert en voiture privee à Ninh Binh. Diner et nuit à Tam Coc. Si arrivée tôt promenade sur la rivière aux trois grottes Jour 7 – 14 mars : TAM COC – HOA LU - BICH DONG (petit déj ; dej ; diner)Vous faites d’abord la promenade en bateau sur la rivière aux trois grottes. En route pour Hoa Lu, première capitale du Royaume du Vietnam, où vous visitez les deux superbes temples de Dinn Thien Hoang et Le Dai Han.Visite ensuite en bicyclette ou en voiture (votre choix) de la pagode de Bich Dong, construite en 3 étages sur une falaise, et le temple Thaï Vi Temple, construit pour honorer 4 rois de la dynastie des Tran (1225-1407) et la reine Thuan Tien.Après la promenade, temps libre pour visiter les nombreuses boutiques de broderies. Retour chez Loan pour un délicieux dîner (fondue vietnamienne).
Jour 8 - 15 mars : TAM COC – TRANG AN – TRAIN POUR HUE(petit déj ; dej ; diner)Départ de votre hôtel à 9h en route pour Trang An, achat des tickets de visite et embarquer en sampan pour une croisière en traversant une dizaine de grottes reliées par des magnifiques vallées (2h). puis visite du site HO DONG CHU’o’ng Déjeuner et temps libre. Diner et transfet ensuite a Ninh Binh pour le train de nuit en destination de Hue.
Jour 9 – 16 mars : ARRIVEE HUE Arrivée Hue vers 10h30 du matin. Fin du service
PRIX POUR 6 PERSONNES (400 $24 2400 $ SUPPLEMENT POUR HALONG : OPTION VOITURE PRIVEE : 148$ X 6 = 888$
Jour 1 - 8 mars 2012 : TRAIN DE NUIT À LAO CAI( sans repas)Transfert libre à la gare pour prendre le train à Lao Cai ( 4 lits /cabine)
Jour 2 – 9 mars : LAO CAI – LAO CHAI – TA VAN (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Arrivée a la gare de Lao Cai vers 05h. Accueil a la sortie de la gare, puis transfert a Sapa en voiture privée.
Apres le petit déjeuner et repos, marche sur chemin facile de 6 km vous conduit de la ville de Sapa au village des Hmong Noir : Lao Chai . Ce village se trouve au milieu d’un beau paysage, face au Mont Fansipan 3143m d’altitude
Puis vous continuez le chemin pour le village de Ta Van qui possède une grande forêt de bambou. Ce village est divisé en trois parties : près de la rivière les Giay, à mi-pente les Dao Rouge (avec de larges chapeaux rouges à pompons) et au plus haut du village les Hmong Noir.
Déjeuner dans une maison d’hôte au milieu du village. Nuit à maison d’hotes à Ta Van.
Jour 3 – 10 mars : TA VAN – SAPA - BAC HA (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Retour à Sapa en voiture pour visiter les 2 marchés de Sapa (marché normal et marché artisanal des minorités) et faire vos emplettes. Dejeuner a Sapa.
Transfert à Bac Ha en voiture privee ( 130km). Diner et nuit à Bac Ha.
Jour 4 – 11 mars ( dimanche) : BAC HA – LAO CAI – TRAIN POUR RETOUR HA NOI (petit déj ; dej ; diner)
Apres petit dejeuner à l’hotel: un bon moment pour visiter le marché traditionnel de Bac Ha qui a lieu seulement le dimanche où des différents ethnies comme H'Mong fleur, Phu La, Dao noir... y viennent pour acheter et vendre leur produits. Vous aurez l’occasion de contempler les costumes colores et splendides des Hmong Fleuries. C’est aussi l’occasion de faire la fête avec beaucoup de vin de maïs, atour d’un grande poêle de fondu de cheval… Quitter le marché, vous faites un ballade en bateau sur la riviere Chay, le rendez vous est surprenant car perdu dans la montagne. Vous decouvrez un paysage magnifique tout au long du trajet, les villages vivant sur les deux cote des deux rives, les falaises féeriques, les grottes. Dejeuner encours de balade. Votre voiture vous prendra à la fin du voyage pour transfert a Lao Cai. Diner et prendre le train pour retour Ha Noi.
Jour 5 – 12 mars : HA NOI – CAT BA – BAIE LAN HA ET D’HALONG – JONQUE PRIVEE STANDARD 3 CABINES (petit déj ; dej ; diner)Le chauffeur et le guide francophone vous rencontrent à la gare pour le transfert de Ha Noi à l’île de Cat Ba. Arrivée à Cat Ba et embarquement sur jonque privée. Déjeuner de fruits de mer pendant que la jonque traverse la petite baie de Lan Ha, site protégé du Parc National de Cat Ba, rarement visitée par les bateaux de croisière de groupe. Nous entrons ensuite dans la célèbre baie d’Halong en direction des îles isolées, en croisant dans des passages inaccessibles aux grands bateaux de groupe. Possibilité de se baigner, de pêcher et de découvrir la baie en kayak. à bord. Visite du lagon de Hang Ca, accessible en traversant un tunnel en petite barque ou en kayak selon la jonque. Dîner de fruits de mer et nuit à bord dans la baie de Lan Ha. Jour 6- 13 mars :BAIE DE LAN HA – NINH BINH – TAM COC (petit déj ; dej ;diner)Petit déjeuner à bord. Navigation dans la baie de Lan Ha, en s’approchant au plus près des plus beaux pics et rochers. Visite d’un village de pecheur baignade, kayaking, etc. Déjeuner à bord. Débarquement à Cat Ba vers 12h00, puis bateau rapide pour retour à Hai Phong. Transfert en voiture privee à Ninh Binh. Diner et nuit à Tam Coc. Si arrivée tôt promenade sur la rivière aux trois grottes Jour 7 – 14 mars : TAM COC – HOA LU - BICH DONG (petit déj ; dej ; diner)Vous faites d’abord la promenade en bateau sur la rivière aux trois grottes. En route pour Hoa Lu, première capitale du Royaume du Vietnam, où vous visitez les deux superbes temples de Dinn Thien Hoang et Le Dai Han.Visite ensuite en bicyclette ou en voiture (votre choix) de la pagode de Bich Dong, construite en 3 étages sur une falaise, et le temple Thaï Vi Temple, construit pour honorer 4 rois de la dynastie des Tran (1225-1407) et la reine Thuan Tien.Après la promenade, temps libre pour visiter les nombreuses boutiques de broderies. Retour chez Loan pour un délicieux dîner (fondue vietnamienne).
Jour 8 - 15 mars : TAM COC – TRANG AN – TRAIN POUR HUE(petit déj ; dej ; diner)Départ de votre hôtel à 9h en route pour Trang An, achat des tickets de visite et embarquer en sampan pour une croisière en traversant une dizaine de grottes reliées par des magnifiques vallées (2h). puis visite du site HO DONG CHU’o’ng Déjeuner et temps libre. Diner et transfet ensuite a Ninh Binh pour le train de nuit en destination de Hue.
Jour 9 – 16 mars : ARRIVEE HUE Arrivée Hue vers 10h30 du matin. Fin du service
PRIX POUR 6 PERSONNES (400 $24 2400 $ SUPPLEMENT POUR HALONG : OPTION VOITURE PRIVEE : 148$ X 6 = 888$
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Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.