Utilité du bâton de marche lors de randonnées?
by Lula
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Tout est dans le titre.
Vous éclairez ma lanterne?
Merciiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
Salut
Pour ma part, j’en utilise deux, surtout en descente et lors de montées bien raides où, raccourcis, ils peuvent aider à se maintenir (un peu comme un piolet). Indéniablement, ils permettent de limiter la charge sur les genoux. La preuve, il n’est pas rare qu’en début de trek, quelques douleurs musculaires apparaissent dans les bras. Il semble évident que la charge exercée sur les bras dans la journée l’aurait été sur les genoux sans les bâtons.
Outre l’utilisation classique, le bâton de randonnée peut servir à pleins de choses : - repousser un chien un peu trop entreprenant - indiquer une direction - faire sécher les chaussettes au bivouac - traverser un gué - maintenir surélevée une cape de pluie comme abri temporaire. - repousser des broussailles sur le chemin, et mille autres usages à la convenance et selon l’imagination de chacun.
Un truc tout bête, notamment lorsque le sac est lourd, ce qui est notre cas lors de nos treks en autonomie : en position debout, le sac sur le dos pendant que l’on observe un paysage ou autre, le bâton placé sous le fond du sac permet de soulager quelques instants les épaules et le dos. C’est tout bête mais bien utile.
Autre utilisation : caler l’appareil photo pour des prises de vues à ouverture plus lente.
En revanche, attention aux descentes raides dans les rochers : les bâtons sont impeccables pour s’emberlificoter les guiboles. Pour ma part, je les replie dans ces conditions.
Je crois que j’aurais maintenant bien du mal à m’en passer lors de nos treks, et pourtant j’étais plutôt réticent au début. A noter que j’utilise maintenant les mêmes depuis 6 ans et qu’ils sont toujours en vie, à part les rondelles usées remplacées 2 fois.
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Pour ma part, j’en utilise deux, surtout en descente et lors de montées bien raides où, raccourcis, ils peuvent aider à se maintenir (un peu comme un piolet). Indéniablement, ils permettent de limiter la charge sur les genoux. La preuve, il n’est pas rare qu’en début de trek, quelques douleurs musculaires apparaissent dans les bras. Il semble évident que la charge exercée sur les bras dans la journée l’aurait été sur les genoux sans les bâtons.
Outre l’utilisation classique, le bâton de randonnée peut servir à pleins de choses : - repousser un chien un peu trop entreprenant - indiquer une direction - faire sécher les chaussettes au bivouac - traverser un gué - maintenir surélevée une cape de pluie comme abri temporaire. - repousser des broussailles sur le chemin, et mille autres usages à la convenance et selon l’imagination de chacun.
Un truc tout bête, notamment lorsque le sac est lourd, ce qui est notre cas lors de nos treks en autonomie : en position debout, le sac sur le dos pendant que l’on observe un paysage ou autre, le bâton placé sous le fond du sac permet de soulager quelques instants les épaules et le dos. C’est tout bête mais bien utile.
Autre utilisation : caler l’appareil photo pour des prises de vues à ouverture plus lente.
En revanche, attention aux descentes raides dans les rochers : les bâtons sont impeccables pour s’emberlificoter les guiboles. Pour ma part, je les replie dans ces conditions.
Je crois que j’aurais maintenant bien du mal à m’en passer lors de nos treks, et pourtant j’étais plutôt réticent au début. A noter que j’utilise maintenant les mêmes depuis 6 ans et qu’ils sont toujours en vie, à part les rondelles usées remplacées 2 fois.
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Surtout pour les descentes avec un sac a dos tres lourd sur le dos. Presque indispensable si c'est tres raide.
Pour les montees aussi en portant de lourdes charges.
Bonjour
Les autres t'ont tout dit ....
En altitude avec dénivelé .... oui ... en montée et en descente surtout !
Mais inutiles pour des marches sur terrain plat, comme on croise parfois certains .... déguisés en randonneurs de l'extrême le long du Canal du Midi 😉
C B
Mais inutiles pour des marches sur terrain plat, comme on croise parfois certains .... déguisés en randonneurs de l'extrême le long du Canal du Midi
Hééééé pas bien de se foutre de moi 😄 Enfin, ouf, je n'ai pas fait le canal du Midi 😉
Juste pour dire que, même su le plat, ils sont leurs utilités. Après libre chacun de les utiliser ou pas, ca c'est une autre question.
Hééééé pas bien de se foutre de moi 😄 Enfin, ouf, je n'ai pas fait le canal du Midi 😉
Juste pour dire que, même su le plat, ils sont leurs utilités. Après libre chacun de les utiliser ou pas, ca c'est une autre question.
Sur le plat ils ont une utilité si on sait s'en servir... ce qui n'est pas le cas de beaucoup de marcheurs, car c'est assez technique !
Deux jambes, deux bras, deux bâtons... soit 6 possibilités de se casser la figure ! 🤪
Quelqu'un ici avait très bien décrit la manière de le faire : Solcha dans cette discussion...
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1108686;search_string=b%E2tons%20;#haut
Bonjour,
Deux jambes, deux bras, deux bâtons... soit 6 possibilités de se casser la figure ! 🤪 Quelqu'un ici avait très bien décrit la manière de le faire : Solcha dans cette discussion... http://voyageforum.com/...ng=b%E2tons%20;#haut
Heu, on est d'accord que je parlais de la façon de marcher et pas des 6 possibilités de s'étaler!!😊 D'ailleurs en cherchant bien et avec un peu de bonne volonté, je pense qu'on peut en trouver beaucoup plus que 6.😉
Solcha.
Deux jambes, deux bras, deux bâtons... soit 6 possibilités de se casser la figure ! 🤪 Quelqu'un ici avait très bien décrit la manière de le faire : Solcha dans cette discussion... http://voyageforum.com/...ng=b%E2tons%20;#haut
Heu, on est d'accord que je parlais de la façon de marcher et pas des 6 possibilités de s'étaler!!😊 D'ailleurs en cherchant bien et avec un peu de bonne volonté, je pense qu'on peut en trouver beaucoup plus que 6.😉
Solcha.
Fou rire... 🙂
Et... oui ! C'est bien la manière de marcher avec 2 bâtons que tu décrivais avec tant de virtuosité dans cette discussion...
Et... oui ! C'est bien la manière de marcher avec 2 bâtons que tu décrivais avec tant de virtuosité dans cette discussion...
Salut
La promenade du dimanche se fait sans bâtons de marche ou avec un bâton pour éloigner les chiens Pour ma part j'ai commencé a utiliser ceux ci fin des années 80 lors de grandes randos super chargés en autonomie et il est vrai que nombre de gens que je croisais m'interpeler sur leurs utilités aujourd'hui bon nombres de randonneurs sont équipés mais très peu les utilisent correctement pour moi marcher sans bâtons c'est un peu faire du ski de fond sans bâtons
Charly
La promenade du dimanche se fait sans bâtons de marche ou avec un bâton pour éloigner les chiens Pour ma part j'ai commencé a utiliser ceux ci fin des années 80 lors de grandes randos super chargés en autonomie et il est vrai que nombre de gens que je croisais m'interpeler sur leurs utilités aujourd'hui bon nombres de randonneurs sont équipés mais très peu les utilisent correctement pour moi marcher sans bâtons c'est un peu faire du ski de fond sans bâtons
Charly
Je confirme les précédents posts : les bâtons sont trés utiles dans les descentes (cela soulage drolement les genoux) particulièrement avec un sac à dos lourd et auusi dans les montées avec dénivelés conséquents.
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Hola
Parce qu'un vrai bout de bois ne peut pas se régler ....
En montée ils ne demandent pas la même longueur qu'en descendant ...😉
Les bâtons de chez Dec. nous suffisent amplement ....
Au Népal tu as le risque qu'au bout d'un moment ils ne tiennent plus très bien et se
replient en y appuyant .
C B
Bonjour,
j'aime bien les bâtons en carbone qui sont plus légers (mais plus chers...) et plus souples, ils encaissent les chocs à la place de tes articulations.
Solcha.
j'aime bien les bâtons en carbone qui sont plus légers (mais plus chers...) et plus souples, ils encaissent les chocs à la place de tes articulations.
Solcha.
Pas de façon suffisamment significative pour que je le remarque, ils encaissent toujours bien les chocs.
Par contre, en effet, je ne m'en sers pas pour m'étirer comme je le fais avec des bâtons non télescopiques si c'est ce que tu sous-entends. 😉
Solcha.
Solcha.
Je trouve les poignées longues plus confortables par terrain accidenté.
Très utile aussi pour évoluer en longeant une pente herbeuse en sécurité. Car à la différence d'un piolet tu le/les as toujours avec toi.
De bonnes explications ici : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/montagne.et.loisirs/pages/paglis.htm
Très utile aussi pour évoluer en longeant une pente herbeuse en sécurité. Car à la différence d'un piolet tu le/les as toujours avec toi.
De bonnes explications ici : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/montagne.et.loisirs/pages/paglis.htm
Bonjour,
rien de bien particulier, après une bonne journée de marche, quelques étirements ne font pas de mal pour mieux repartir le lendemain et à défaut d'arbre ou de barrière, voire de banc, les batons peuvent constituer un bon point d'appui. Mais pas n'importe lesquels. Ceux en carbone ne se déforment pas, par conter les télescopiques n'apprécient pas.
Solcha.
rien de bien particulier, après une bonne journée de marche, quelques étirements ne font pas de mal pour mieux repartir le lendemain et à défaut d'arbre ou de barrière, voire de banc, les batons peuvent constituer un bon point d'appui. Mais pas n'importe lesquels. Ceux en carbone ne se déforment pas, par conter les télescopiques n'apprécient pas.
Solcha.
Tout est dans le titre.
Vous éclairez ma lanterne?
Merciiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
Pouvez vous éclairer la mienne en même temps ?Question 1 ou 2 batons quel est le mieux ?
Pouvez vous éclairer la mienne en même temps ?Question 1 ou 2 batons quel est le mieux ?
Bonjour
Jusqu'à présent je n'avais jamais utilisé de bâtons de marche, pas plus pour une petite rando qu'un trekking d'un mois dans l'himalaya et ça depuis que je suis ado jusqu'à 58 ans.. je trouvais ça gênant, j'aimais avoir les mains libres je ne me suis jamais senti à l'aise avec des bâtons, je dévalais des pentes raides , des pierriers à toute vitesse et n'avais jamais ressenti la moindre douleur aux genoux , je les croyais invulnérables mais il y a peu de temps j'ai ressenti une petite douleur sur l'extérieur du genoux droit douleur qui persistait depuis 6 mois.. Je suis allé consulté un médecin et au vu des radios il s'est avéré que j'avais de l'arthrose sévère aux 2 genoux , arthrose femoro -patélaire ( Fémur/ rotule) dûe selon les médecins à une malformation des rotules! Depuis j'utilise des bâtons (qui doivent très certainement participer au travail des genoux quoique je ne ressente pas de différence) mais aussi des genouillères!! en espérant pouvoir encore marcher quelques années...Peu-être que si j'avais utilisé les bâtons plus tôt ça ne serait pas arrivé? Je l'ignore...
Jusqu'à présent je n'avais jamais utilisé de bâtons de marche, pas plus pour une petite rando qu'un trekking d'un mois dans l'himalaya et ça depuis que je suis ado jusqu'à 58 ans.. je trouvais ça gênant, j'aimais avoir les mains libres je ne me suis jamais senti à l'aise avec des bâtons, je dévalais des pentes raides , des pierriers à toute vitesse et n'avais jamais ressenti la moindre douleur aux genoux , je les croyais invulnérables mais il y a peu de temps j'ai ressenti une petite douleur sur l'extérieur du genoux droit douleur qui persistait depuis 6 mois.. Je suis allé consulté un médecin et au vu des radios il s'est avéré que j'avais de l'arthrose sévère aux 2 genoux , arthrose femoro -patélaire ( Fémur/ rotule) dûe selon les médecins à une malformation des rotules! Depuis j'utilise des bâtons (qui doivent très certainement participer au travail des genoux quoique je ne ressente pas de différence) mais aussi des genouillères!! en espérant pouvoir encore marcher quelques années...Peu-être que si j'avais utilisé les bâtons plus tôt ça ne serait pas arrivé? Je l'ignore...
L'utilisation de bâtons en randonnée est surtout utile en montagne . Pour la montée ils permettent de s'aider de la force des bras et pour la descente prévenir les chutes .
Dans le temps c'était un moyen de se défendre contre les prédateurs yc humains .
Je pense que c'est de là que vient cette habitude peu utile pour des marches normales .
C'est un randonneur de montagne qui vous répond Lula 😉
C'est un randonneur de montagne qui vous répond Lula 😉
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I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
