Vaccins ou pas en Amérique du Sud
by Kristel75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
j'aimerai savoir les personnes qui sont allées en Amérique du sud , surtout argentine , chili , Pérou avez vous fait des vaccins style fièvre jaune ? thyphoïde ?
Kristel
Hola
Quelque soit le voyage , il est recommandé de se faire vacciner contre la Thyphoïde et les hépatites A et B , surtout si tu voyages en routard . Le vaccin contre la fièvre jaune est également conseillé pour les pays d'Amérique du sud ou d'Afrique , aucun vaccin ne t'ai demandé quand tu arrives là bas mais si tu vas en Amérique centrale alors que tu as passé un séjour en Amérique du sud alors il ne te laisseront pas rentrer ( j'ai été témoin d'un cas comme celui-ci en 2010 ) .
En 2010 j'ai voulu faire un rappel pour l'hépatite B et l'institut Pasteur a préféré me faire faire une prise de sang pour contrôler mon taux et c'est alors que j'ai appris que j'avais eu l'hépatite B lors d'un précédent voyage , mais sans gravité pour ma santé car j'étais déjà vacciné .
Si tu comptes séjourner dans la selva , un traitement anti-paludéen est également recommandé .
Maintenant si tu pars en circuit organisé en hôtel 4* , alors je pense que les vaccins sont inutiles .
Ce n'est qu'un avis personnel mais peut-être qu'un médecin ( sur ce site ou ailleurs ) pourra te donner d'autres conseils ou avis .
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Bonjour,
Cela dépend également des régions que tu vas visiter dans ces pays. Comptes-tu aller en Amazonie notamment?
Nous avons fait Pérou (mais sans l'Amazonie) , Chili, Argentine et n'avions pas fait faire de vaccins spécifiques mais nous avions été vaccinés contre la fièvre jaune pour un précédent voyage. Si tu envisages d'autres voyages lointains, cela peut être intéressant de te faire vacciner, la durée de validité étant de dix ans.
Et effectivement, cela dépend aussi de la façon dont tu voyages. Nous avons toujours acheté de l'eau en bouteille, sauf vers la fin en ville où nous avons introduit un peu d'eau du robinet. (Pas au Pérou!)
Je pense aussi qu'il y a un réel business derrière tout ses vaccins !!!
Hépatite et typhoïde tu peux aussi l'avoir en France en mangeant des huitres :-) ou des fruits rincés avec des eaux croupies ! il suffit de prendre aussi certaine précaution sur la nourriture ! il est évident que d'injecter un vaccins ( donc le virus + adjuvant ) n 'est pas rien même si il est prouvé pour certaine maladie qu 'il vaut mieux être vacciné. je souhaite faire vraiment le minimum de vaccin !!!
mais vous allez me dire pourquoi alors poser cette question :-) simplement que parfois une remise en question se fait !!!! ai je raison ? ai je tort ? et donc on s'en remet au jugement des autres pour savoir si on continu de penser cela ou si au contraire nous voulons changer d'avis !!
Hépatite et typhoïde tu peux aussi l'avoir en France en mangeant des huitres :-) ou des fruits rincés avec des eaux croupies ! il suffit de prendre aussi certaine précaution sur la nourriture ! il est évident que d'injecter un vaccins ( donc le virus + adjuvant ) n 'est pas rien même si il est prouvé pour certaine maladie qu 'il vaut mieux être vacciné. je souhaite faire vraiment le minimum de vaccin !!!
mais vous allez me dire pourquoi alors poser cette question :-) simplement que parfois une remise en question se fait !!!! ai je raison ? ai je tort ? et donc on s'en remet au jugement des autres pour savoir si on continu de penser cela ou si au contraire nous voulons changer d'avis !!
Kristel
Aucun vaccin obligatoire pour Argentine/Chili, mais si tu vas séjourner dans la "campagne" style routard c-a-d en dehors des routes touristiques, tu peux envisager la rage, il est toujours présente en Amerique du Sud et il y a enormement d'animaux en etat semi-sauvage : part exemple chiens et chats abandonnés, etc ...
7 ans en Argentine / 13 ans au Chili.
Pour votre séjour a Santiago :
https://voyageforum.com/forum/location-superbe-appartement-en-plein-coeur-santiago-d10759186/
Je pense aussi qu'il y a un réel business derrière tout ses vaccins !!!
Hépatite et typhoïde tu peux aussi l'avoir en France en mangeant des huitres :-) ou des fruits rincés avec des eaux croupies ! il suffit de prendre aussi certaine précaution sur la nourriture ! il est évident que d'injecter un vaccins ( donc le virus + adjuvant ) n 'est pas rien même si il est prouvé pour certaine maladie qu 'il vaut mieux être vacciné. je souhaite faire vraiment le minimum de vaccin !!!
mais vous allez me dire pourquoi alors poser cette question :-) simplement que parfois une remise en question se fait !!!! ai je raison ? ai je tort ? et donc on s'en remet au jugement des autres pour savoir si on continu de penser cela ou si au contraire nous voulons changer d'avis !!
on n'injecte pas le virus, ... sinon, on n'aurait pas besoin d'adjuvant 🙂🙂 c'est sûr que le virus de l'hépatite A circule aussi en France, mais beaucoup moins que dans le passé, en raison de l'amélioration des conditions d'hygiène ... et une hépatite A chez l'adulte .... tu m'en diras des nouvelles ... Il y a aussi de temps à autre des cas autochtones de typhoïde, assez rarement quand même .. Là c'est peut-être l'accès aux soins qui pourrait poser problème au fin de fond de nulle part ..
l'essentiel est d'avoir une bonne assurance de rapatriement ... du corps ...
Hépatite et typhoïde tu peux aussi l'avoir en France en mangeant des huitres :-) ou des fruits rincés avec des eaux croupies ! il suffit de prendre aussi certaine précaution sur la nourriture ! il est évident que d'injecter un vaccins ( donc le virus + adjuvant ) n 'est pas rien même si il est prouvé pour certaine maladie qu 'il vaut mieux être vacciné. je souhaite faire vraiment le minimum de vaccin !!!
mais vous allez me dire pourquoi alors poser cette question :-) simplement que parfois une remise en question se fait !!!! ai je raison ? ai je tort ? et donc on s'en remet au jugement des autres pour savoir si on continu de penser cela ou si au contraire nous voulons changer d'avis !!
on n'injecte pas le virus, ... sinon, on n'aurait pas besoin d'adjuvant 🙂🙂 c'est sûr que le virus de l'hépatite A circule aussi en France, mais beaucoup moins que dans le passé, en raison de l'amélioration des conditions d'hygiène ... et une hépatite A chez l'adulte .... tu m'en diras des nouvelles ... Il y a aussi de temps à autre des cas autochtones de typhoïde, assez rarement quand même .. Là c'est peut-être l'accès aux soins qui pourrait poser problème au fin de fond de nulle part ..
l'essentiel est d'avoir une bonne assurance de rapatriement ... du corps ...
Hola
Même si je respecte ton choix de ne pas te faire vacciner , je ne le partage pas . Après tout , c'est avec ta santé que tu joues alors décide toi même .
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Avant de me prendre pour une nana inculte .... Renseigne toi bien !!!!
Si ton vaccin n a pas la souche quel intérêt de te vacciner ???
L’antigène (élément microbien lié à la maladie que l’on veut prévenir) mis dans le vaccin et qui va faire réagir le système immunitaire doit être soit vivant mais atténué, soit tué ou inactivé, soit transformé par génie génétique, pour donner la maladie a minima et développer une mémoire immunitaire
cas d hépatite A mortelle ???? Par contre comme une très grosse grippe tu peux être hs quelques jours !
Je ne mettais pas mon post pour la remise en question de ce qu il y a dans les vaccins ! Juste savoir le ressenti et sur d autres forum pas mal de gens pensent aussi que c est abusé Bonne journée a tous !!!
Je ne mettais pas mon post pour la remise en question de ce qu il y a dans les vaccins ! Juste savoir le ressenti et sur d autres forum pas mal de gens pensent aussi que c est abusé Bonne journée a tous !!!
Kristel
je crois que tu as eu ta réponse concernant les vaccins obligatoires ou conseillés pour l'Amerique du Sud (Chili Argentine).
7 ans en Argentine / 13 ans au Chili.
Pour votre séjour a Santiago :
https://voyageforum.com/forum/location-superbe-appartement-en-plein-coeur-santiago-d10759186/
te fâche pas ...
je réitère qu'il n' y a pas de virus VIVANT dans les vaccins ... merci pour les explications , mes cours d'immunologie sont loin 🙂
L'hépatite A, oui, peut donner, rarement heureusement, des hépatites fulminantes chez l'adulte, et, en tout cas, elle est assez cognée chez l'adulte (symptômes pouvant durer plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois ), de quoi bien fiche en l'air un séjour de longue durée, ou le retour (4 semaines d'incubation, donc ce peut être pour la reprise du travail !, ) ... Bon voyage, avec ou sans vaccin !!!!!
L'hépatite A, oui, peut donner, rarement heureusement, des hépatites fulminantes chez l'adulte, et, en tout cas, elle est assez cognée chez l'adulte (symptômes pouvant durer plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois ), de quoi bien fiche en l'air un séjour de longue durée, ou le retour (4 semaines d'incubation, donc ce peut être pour la reprise du travail !, ) ... Bon voyage, avec ou sans vaccin !!!!!
Bonjour,
le vaccin contre la fievre jaune n' est pas superflu si tu prévois d' aller en Amazonie. valable 10 ans et il semblerait qu' à partir de l' année prochaine il ne sera plus à refaire.même après 10 ans, dixit le médecin qui m' a vaccinée il y a qqs jours.
Typhim Vi c' est un vaccin inerte qui n' assure qu' une protection partielle.
il existe aussi en gélule.
pour la rage... même si tout risque n' est pas exclu, on peut au moins agir préventivement. bon à savoir, éventuellement, certaines mutuelles remboursent les vaccins. après c' est à chacun de décider.😏
pour la rage... même si tout risque n' est pas exclu, on peut au moins agir préventivement. bon à savoir, éventuellement, certaines mutuelles remboursent les vaccins. après c' est à chacun de décider.😏
Merci
La.fievre jaune est importante oui en gélule serieux ? Je vais me renseigner
Merci a vous tous !!!!
Kristel
si tu lis bien, c' est le vaccin Typhoïde( Typhim Vi) qui est aussi dispo en gélule.mais je n' ai pas testé.
juste en vaccin classique il y a qqs années.
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Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!




