À vélo depuis les Alpes vers Istanbul
by Mazzzz
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous,
je projette, et ce n'est encore qu'un projet, de rejoindre ma compagne en poste à Istanbul.
l'idée est de me rendre à Ancone en Italie puis de prendre un ferrie pour la Grece (igoumista) puis par le nord de la Grece rejoindre Istanbul.
je partirais en juin 2018.
je suis preneur de l'expérience des cyclos qui connaissent tout ou partie de cet itinéraire ainsi que des informations sur les liaisons maritimes Italie/grece.
Amicalement
pascal
Au niveau kilomètres, il me semble qu'il est plus court d'aller à Venise plutôt qu'à Ancona pour prendre un ferry Venise-Igoumenitsa.
Pour le vélo, je n'y connais rien...
Pour le vélo, je n'y connais rien...
Mathilde
Bonsoir Pascal, mais en tout cas un Thonon-les-Bains (pas très loin d'Annecy) à Venise à vélo c'est un voyage fabuleux que j'avais effectué dans le sens Venise Thonon, ce fut un grand moment de vélo avec des cols italiens époustouflants. Les Italiens sont connus pour être des grands bâtisseurs, et un col comme le Stelvio en est une preuve éclatante . J'en avais fait un "petit" CR.
voyageforum.com/...ost=5435973;#5435973
Pour chaque étape journalière j'indique départ, arrivée, dénivelé et kilométrage.
Mais c'est vrai que descendre la côte adriatique ou même monter dans les montagnes les Apennins ça doit être pas mal, je ne connais qu'en voiture.
En tout cas belle balade
Luc
Quel type d'infos souhaites tu, j'ai fait ce trajet mi-mai arrivée fin juin à Brindisi.
Col de Larche, plaine du Po jusqu'à Modène puis je suis monté sur les Apennins, en gros Florence, Perugia, L'Aquila, Isernia, Campobasso, Matera et Brindisi. Col de Larche, on va partir du principe que c'est le passage le moins gavé de trafic pour traverser les Alpes, mais ça reste un moment mitigé, la route jusqu'à Barcelonnette est une nationale à camions. J'ai eu la lumineuse idée de vouloir passer le col un dimanche : résultat des centaines de motos, pas un moment de silence, toujours un bruit de moto alors qu'on est dans un paysage magnifique en pleine montagne. Pénible au point que je ne me suis même pas arrêté au col, j'ai plongé direct en Italie. Remarque globale : L'Italie de l’intérieur est superbe, les gens sont tops, mais je ne ferais plus de vélo en Italie, agacé par le comportement des automobilistes en général. Stressé au quotidien, j'ai été jusqu'à me dire que ce serait le dernier voyage à vélo de ma vie...La plaine du Po fut un enfer, le trafic est chaotique, dangereux car on ne peut pas tout le temps suivre les chemins qui longent le Po.
Pour la suite, je ne peux en dire plus car d'Igoumenitsa, je suis remonté sur l'Albanie.
Col de Larche, plaine du Po jusqu'à Modène puis je suis monté sur les Apennins, en gros Florence, Perugia, L'Aquila, Isernia, Campobasso, Matera et Brindisi. Col de Larche, on va partir du principe que c'est le passage le moins gavé de trafic pour traverser les Alpes, mais ça reste un moment mitigé, la route jusqu'à Barcelonnette est une nationale à camions. J'ai eu la lumineuse idée de vouloir passer le col un dimanche : résultat des centaines de motos, pas un moment de silence, toujours un bruit de moto alors qu'on est dans un paysage magnifique en pleine montagne. Pénible au point que je ne me suis même pas arrêté au col, j'ai plongé direct en Italie. Remarque globale : L'Italie de l’intérieur est superbe, les gens sont tops, mais je ne ferais plus de vélo en Italie, agacé par le comportement des automobilistes en général. Stressé au quotidien, j'ai été jusqu'à me dire que ce serait le dernier voyage à vélo de ma vie...La plaine du Po fut un enfer, le trafic est chaotique, dangereux car on ne peut pas tout le temps suivre les chemins qui longent le Po.
Pour la suite, je ne peux en dire plus car d'Igoumenitsa, je suis remonté sur l'Albanie.
J'ai pratiqué (mais dans l'autre sens...) les itinéraires vers Ancone / Brindisi et la Grèce du Nord vers Igoumentsia ... des éléments sur mes carnets de voyage
https://www.lethieu39.fr/cyclotourisme/
rubriques "Grèce Jura" / Crête Jura/ Grèce ... qqs éléments aussi sur un retour de Naples (toujours à contre sens du votre, mais bon ...)
Ceci, pour le cas où vous rejoindriez la Suisse et ses bons itinéraires cyclables - site des itinéraires:
http://www.schweizmobil.ch/fr/veloland/suisse-a-velo.html
Pour l'Italie, les itinéraires cyclables (moins évidents qu'en Suisse) sur le site de :
https://www.piste-ciclabili.com/ (en italien, inscription gratuite ...)
En Grèce, on n'a eu que peu de problèmes ... les "grandes" routes sont dotées de sur-largeur (en fait, voie pour véhicules lents ... ) et nous n'avons jamais eu de gros problèmes d'itinéraires ...
Bonne préparation,
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
J'oubliais ... pour les passages Ferry, on n'a jamais eu de problème : pas de réservation préalable (au pire, ce sera un passage "simple", sans cabine...) et le vélo voyage gratis ..
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
bravo, beau programme
pour l Italie
passer par le petit st bernard assez calme en principe et pas très difficile
juska Aoste grand rte mais ça va , car autoroute pas loin
gare a deux trois petits tunnels , donc chasuble
ensuite juska ivrea
l italie pas facile , pas mal de circulation
claudio didit
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2004-italie/
mais depuis ya en des pistes dites cyclables (je crains le pire ..)
pour la suite je ne sais pas
mais je me suis laissé dire qe l'arrivée à Instanbul est assez sportive ..
bonne rte
claudio
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour Pascal,
Nous sommes partis d'Albertville pour un tour du monde par l'itinéraire suivant: Albertville-Nice-Bastia-Livourne-Florence-Gubbio-Ancone-Igoumenitsa-Ioanina-Thessalonique-Alexandropoulos-Détroit des Dardanelles-Bandirma au sud de la mer de Marmara puis bateau pour Istanbul où nous sommes arrivés juste comme il faut dans le quartier de Sultanhamet.
La suite est une autre aventure... Nous avons donc utilisé les ferrys, confortables et gratuits pour les vélos, entre Nice et Bastia, entre Bastia et Livourne, entre Ancone et Igoumenitsa et enfin entre Bandirma et Istanbul. Nous avons en route visité Pise, Florence, les Météores et Thessalonique en Grèce puis nous avons passé 15 jours à Istanbul sans épuiser ses merveilles! Si nous avions à repartir nous prendrions le même itinéraire...
Nous sommes partis d'Albertville pour un tour du monde par l'itinéraire suivant: Albertville-Nice-Bastia-Livourne-Florence-Gubbio-Ancone-Igoumenitsa-Ioanina-Thessalonique-Alexandropoulos-Détroit des Dardanelles-Bandirma au sud de la mer de Marmara puis bateau pour Istanbul où nous sommes arrivés juste comme il faut dans le quartier de Sultanhamet.
La suite est une autre aventure... Nous avons donc utilisé les ferrys, confortables et gratuits pour les vélos, entre Nice et Bastia, entre Bastia et Livourne, entre Ancone et Igoumenitsa et enfin entre Bandirma et Istanbul. Nous avons en route visité Pise, Florence, les Météores et Thessalonique en Grèce puis nous avons passé 15 jours à Istanbul sans épuiser ses merveilles! Si nous avions à repartir nous prendrions le même itinéraire...
Annie et Alain.
Nous sommes des voyageurs à vélo et non des cyclistes en voyage...
http://pommequiroule.homeip.net
Je confirme la formule SUD avec "croisière" est une bonne formule !!
testée (en sens inverse toujours) : trajet français vers Marseille (voir l'itinéraire breveté "Claudio") Ferry vers l'Ile Rousse, Côte Ouest de la Corse (une splendeur) Bateau de Bonifacio en Sardaigne, puis traversée en Ferry de Sardaigne OLBIA à CIVITAVECCHIA ... Route, par la côte du Nord de Rome jusqu'au sud de Naples (Paestrum) et traversée de la botte (un peu de montagne) jusqu'à BARI pour une traversée en ferry vers Igoumentsia ... J'avais gardé un bon souvenir de ce trajet ... et, les vélos étant gratis, avec un choix "mini confort" (sans cabine), ça ne revient finalement pas très cher ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
je n'avais pas pensé à la route sud mais ça me semble être une solution sympa.
D'autant que j'aimerais éviter la plaine du Po et le nord qui n'est pas la région la plus belle d'Italie et puis c'est vrai que la circulation est dense donc peut être qu'en utilisant les ferry : nice/l'ile rousse, Bastia/piombino , ensuite traversée de la "botte"et Ancona/Igoumenitsa ça peut être un bon plan.
le nord de la Grèce je ne connais pas.
l'arrivée sur Istanbul je connais en voiture et c'est vrai qu'a vélo ça ne sera pas évident mais il est possible d'éviter les derniers km en bateau , la je connais bien la Turquie
J'y réfléchi...
en tout cas merci pour vos suggestions.
passer par la Corse et la Sardaigne me parait une excellente option pour éviter les Alpes et la plaine du Po. En plus, effectivement, prendre un ferry avec son vélo ne pose aucune problème.
la partie centrale est superbe, sur ton chemin il y a une voie verte Spoleto-Norcia que je recommande si elle est ouverte. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys8WtJ3A1x8
la partie centrale est superbe, sur ton chemin il y a une voie verte Spoleto-Norcia que je recommande si elle est ouverte. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys8WtJ3A1x8
Salut,
La dernière fois que je suis allé en Turquie en vélo je suis passé par le Valais suisse, puis col du Simplon ( tous les autres cols transalpins étaient fermés pour cause de neige printanière tardive ), et ensuite toute la zone des Grands Lacs en Italie. C'est assez sympa, toujours beau, et pas mal de bouts de pistes cyclables.
Ensuite, pour rallier le bout de la Botte, vous avez deux options. Soit suivre la côte adriatique ( bof, bof. Mais rapide ) soit rester à l'intérieur des terres, dans les Apennins, mais cela monte et descend beaucoup. Pour ma part j'ai toujours trouvé les conducteurs italiens assez respectueux.
Il y a un ferry de Brindisi à Igoumenitsa. Je l'ai pris il y a fort longtemps ( traversée de nuit ). Toute la région montagneuse calcaire des Zagoria à l'est d'Igoumenitsa ( centrée autour de Ioanina ) est magnifique. Idem pour celle contiguë qui longe les frontières albanaise et macédonienne. C'est très calme. Vous pourriez rejoindre la côte vers Kavala. Pour atteindre la frontière turque à Ipsala il y a plein de petits itinéraires possibles, avec même des bouts de piste côtière vers Alexandroupoli.
Le mieux à mon sens pour atteindre Istanbul est de rallonger un peu le parcours et de traverser les Dardanelles à Canakkale. Puis suivre le Détroit et la Mer de Marmara vers l'est ( donc en rive sud ) jusqu'à Yalova. De là il y a des bateaux pour Istanbul qui vous débarquent à Sirkeci, donc en plein centre-ville. Atteindre la mégapole par les autoroutes de la partie européenne du pays c'est juste l'enfer sur terre.
L.
La dernière fois que je suis allé en Turquie en vélo je suis passé par le Valais suisse, puis col du Simplon ( tous les autres cols transalpins étaient fermés pour cause de neige printanière tardive ), et ensuite toute la zone des Grands Lacs en Italie. C'est assez sympa, toujours beau, et pas mal de bouts de pistes cyclables.
Ensuite, pour rallier le bout de la Botte, vous avez deux options. Soit suivre la côte adriatique ( bof, bof. Mais rapide ) soit rester à l'intérieur des terres, dans les Apennins, mais cela monte et descend beaucoup. Pour ma part j'ai toujours trouvé les conducteurs italiens assez respectueux.
Il y a un ferry de Brindisi à Igoumenitsa. Je l'ai pris il y a fort longtemps ( traversée de nuit ). Toute la région montagneuse calcaire des Zagoria à l'est d'Igoumenitsa ( centrée autour de Ioanina ) est magnifique. Idem pour celle contiguë qui longe les frontières albanaise et macédonienne. C'est très calme. Vous pourriez rejoindre la côte vers Kavala. Pour atteindre la frontière turque à Ipsala il y a plein de petits itinéraires possibles, avec même des bouts de piste côtière vers Alexandroupoli.
Le mieux à mon sens pour atteindre Istanbul est de rallonger un peu le parcours et de traverser les Dardanelles à Canakkale. Puis suivre le Détroit et la Mer de Marmara vers l'est ( donc en rive sud ) jusqu'à Yalova. De là il y a des bateaux pour Istanbul qui vous débarquent à Sirkeci, donc en plein centre-ville. Atteindre la mégapole par les autoroutes de la partie européenne du pays c'est juste l'enfer sur terre.
L.
Salut,
Si tu n'es pas pressé, et que tu n'as pas peur des bosses, je peux te conseiller pas mal de passages en suivant l'arc Alpin pour y avoir déjà beaucoup voyagé. Si tu ne connais pas, c'est une bonne occasion pour découvrir des coins mythiques (les cols Suisses proches d'Interlaken, les cols de l'Ortles et des Dolomites, la région des Lacs en Italie, etc.).
Pour le Pô, j'y étais pendant la canicule du mois de juin cette année, et je t'encourage effectivement à limiter au max les km là-dedans. C'est très monotone niveau paysage (en particulier quand il fait chaud, avec l'humidité on ne voyait pas à 10km) et surtout c'est par endroit infesté de moustiques, à prendre en compte si tu souhaitais camper.
Côté circulation en Italie, tant que tu es dans les Alpes, c'est très similaire à la France, voire mieux, mais après ça change un peu, je peux te conseiller : - Achète une carte routière assez détaillée là-bas (ou GPS), c'est difficile de compter sur les panneaux d'indications laconiques (tu as souvent le choix entre "Milan" et "Turin") et ne te fies pas trop à Google Maps qui n'a que très rarement les bons noms de bled - Méfie toi des (rares) panneaux d'indications (et surtout du kilométrage, souvent approximatif) - N'hésite pas à mettre un gilet jaune là où ça circule, et garde les yeux ouverts.
A ton service, Bon voyage.
Si tu n'es pas pressé, et que tu n'as pas peur des bosses, je peux te conseiller pas mal de passages en suivant l'arc Alpin pour y avoir déjà beaucoup voyagé. Si tu ne connais pas, c'est une bonne occasion pour découvrir des coins mythiques (les cols Suisses proches d'Interlaken, les cols de l'Ortles et des Dolomites, la région des Lacs en Italie, etc.).
Pour le Pô, j'y étais pendant la canicule du mois de juin cette année, et je t'encourage effectivement à limiter au max les km là-dedans. C'est très monotone niveau paysage (en particulier quand il fait chaud, avec l'humidité on ne voyait pas à 10km) et surtout c'est par endroit infesté de moustiques, à prendre en compte si tu souhaitais camper.
Côté circulation en Italie, tant que tu es dans les Alpes, c'est très similaire à la France, voire mieux, mais après ça change un peu, je peux te conseiller : - Achète une carte routière assez détaillée là-bas (ou GPS), c'est difficile de compter sur les panneaux d'indications laconiques (tu as souvent le choix entre "Milan" et "Turin") et ne te fies pas trop à Google Maps qui n'a que très rarement les bons noms de bled - Méfie toi des (rares) panneaux d'indications (et surtout du kilométrage, souvent approximatif) - N'hésite pas à mettre un gilet jaune là où ça circule, et garde les yeux ouverts.
A ton service, Bon voyage.
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A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!




