Après la Vélodyssée (Aout 2018), le Japon/Okinawa (Aout 2019) et les trails de Nouvelle-Zélande (Décembre 2019) : j'ai le projet de faire un nouveau voyage en cyclotourisme de 12 jours en Aout 2020.
Le hic est que j'hésite entre la ViaRhona et la Meuse à vélo : je recherche donc des retours d'expérience de personnes qui auraient déjà effectué l'une ou l'autre
Mes critères sont assez classiques : des beaux paysages, du soleil (départ prévu le 20/08 donc pas trop de souci à priori) et des parcours roulants : j'adore en effet rouler en suivant un cours d'eau comme j'ai pu le faire sur le canal de Brest (même si certains trouvent ça monotone moi j'adore 😛 !!) mais pas contre je n'aime pas rouler à moins de 25 km/h sinon je m'ennuie (du coup au moins 100 km/jour en général). Je roule en général assez léger avec une seule sacoche Ortlieb sur porte bagage arrière et en vélo gravel Trek crossrip 3 (pas de camping donc, je dors toujours en hotels, auberge, Airbnb)
En bref, je suis preneur de toutes informations qui pourrait m'aider à choisir !!
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Super : je n'en espérait pas tant : merci beaucoup Claude !! :)
Celà étant, ça ne fait qu'accentuer mon dilemme tant vos photos des deux parcours donnent envie 😮 : j'aime le bucolique et l'histoire (donc plus Meuse à priori) mais j'aime aussi le roulant (ViaRhona) : à priori cela va se jouer sur des détails comme les possibilités d'hébergements ou la météo (j'ai déjà eu des mauvaises surprises en Belgique de ce côté là)
Je vois sur vos récits (et dans votre signature !) que vous semblez également être un cyclotouriste "à la carte de crédit" comme moi (=hôtels) : vu les villes traversées sur la ViaRhona ça ne devrait pas trop être un problème (à part peut être les prix en Suisse, j'imagine ?) mais avez-vous eu des difficultés particulières niveau hébergement sur la Meuse à vélo ?
en effet, claudio est à présent plus adeptes des lits douillets, après des années de paille, pour des raisons personnelles.
je connais la viarhona par cœur , mais je préfère la Meuse pour son côté plus sauvage et authentique et plus d'ombre portée sur la parcours.
pour loger pas de soucis, ya des hôtels et campings sur le parcours (il existe un topo .. gratuit en plus)
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sur viarhôna ya des hôtels et camping aussi, mais plus chers
sur la suisse les hôtels sont assez chers en effet
mais on a parfois de bonnes surprises en consultant, t le site suisse à vélo , qui donnent des adresses (c'est presque abordable, (presque !)
j'ai écrit un excellent topo guide sur viarhona en France, mais comme claudio il est à présent épuisé et il n'y aura pas de version 2020 pour des raisons diverses et variées
mais certains en ont sortis ..
claudio
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonsoir,
L'année dernière, j'ai fait de Dun sur Meuse jusqu'à Domremy au mois de mai.
J'ai bien aimé les paysages bucoliques malgré des matins bien frais. Peu de circulation sur les routes. Les gens sont accueillants et discutent facilement. On traverse beaucoup de sites de la 1ère guerre mondiale. Pas trop de problèmes pour trouver des campings, la plus part sont simples et pas très chers. Par contre, les villes semblent vivre au ralenti, je ne sais pas comment cela va être cette année!
A Domremy, camping simple mais bien et très bon restau en face la maison de Jeanne.
En résumé, ballade agréable pour celui qui aime être au calme.
Je ne réponds que sur la Via Rhona, ne connaissant pas la Meuse.
Elle débute à Genève et donc ne parcourt pas la Suisse. A part un éventuel hébergement dans la ville-départ, tu n'auras donc pas à dépenser beaucoup de CHF.
Je connais la partie de Genève à Avignon. Selon mes centres d'intérêt (bucoliques avant tout), la partie la plus intéressante va de Seyssel à Le Pouzin. Tu trouveras des hébergements sur le parcours sans difficulté au-delà du 20 août.
Et une suggestion alternative à ton projet, puisque tu as un gravel : au niveau de Beauchastel (un peu au Nord de la Voulte-sur-Rhône) tu pourrais bifurquer sur la Via Dolce qui remonte la vallée de l'Eyrieux jusqu'à Saint-Agrève. Puis rejoindre la Via Fluvia (via le Chambon-sur-Lignon) au niveau de Monfaucon-en-Velay. De-là direction Annonay ou Le Puy-en-Velay pour retour chez toi en train (tu n'as pas précisé comment tu souhaites rallier le début de ton parcours).
J'ai bien envie de faire la Meuse dans un premier temps (sachant que je ferai de toutes façons les deux à terme) : j'ai toujours voulu rouler dans les Ardennes et je comprends à travers vos messages que c'est plus connoté "bucolique et histoire" (première guerre mondiale notamment) que la ViaRhona... et puis j'ai toujours voulu traverser des frontières à vélo 😛 (deux sur la Meuse) !!
Il y'a cependant un point qui pourrait changer la donne : les éventuelles restrictions de déplacements liées au Covid... pour l'instant il semble que la limite des 100 km autour du domicile seront levées (j'habite dans le Val d'oise - 95) mais c'est encore assez flou sur les pays Européens qui ouvriront leur frontières et aux règles associées (quarantaine obligatoire notamment) : il est donc possible de je fasse finalement la ViaRhona en évitant le départ de Suisse si c'est le cas.
Affaire à suivre donc...
Dans tous les cas, l'aller/retour depuis mon domicile se fera en train avec mon vélo : j'avais fait le trajet Gare Montparnasse-Morlaix et Hendaye-Gare Montparnasse sans trop de soucis sur la Vélodyssée.
tu pourrais partir de la frontière franco belge (Givet) (train à charleville mézieres), remonter la Meuse
embrayer sur la Saône et sur viarhona
c'est un peu long, mais ça fait une belle bambée
et remonter de Sète à paris by train
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Vu que je n'arrivais décidément pas à choisir entre la ViaRhôna et la Meuse à vélo... j'ai décidé de faire les deux !! 🙂😛
Pour être précis, j'ai prévu de d'abord faire la Meuse à vélo de Langres à Liège puis de faire la ViaRhôna de Thonon à Sète, soit 1 325 km en 14 jours.
J'ai choisi de ne pas faire la Meuse à vélo jusqu'au terminus de Hoek van Holland à cause de la météo aux Pays Bas qui est potentiellement pluvieuse même en Août : vu que je suis un peu "allergique" à la pluie j'ai préféré ne pas prendre le risque de gâcher mes vacances.
Pour la ViaRhôna, j'ai prévu quelques jours de farniente du côté de Sète/Palavas les flots mais je m'interroge sur le fait de faire également l'autre partie d'Arles à Port Saint Louis : certains l'ont testée ? Il y'a des belles choses à voir dans ce coin là ?
Sans surprises, les hébergements en "dur" ne sont pas donnés : peut-être qu'un jour je vais me résigner à faire du camping histoire d'alléger un peu (beaucoup ?) la facture... 😇😕
BRAVO
DE ARLES à psl c'est la Camargue ; a bit boring , mais c'est la Camargue
sin on aime les grand espaces c'est à faire
il faut alors parcourir ensuite la digue à la mer
27 km hors du temps
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
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Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou