Nous serons à 4 au Vietnam du Nord entre le 4/11 et 1/12/2010. Nous avons déjà réservé un petit séjour chez Loan, à Tam Coc, grâce aux infos éclairées de Larsay. Merci Jacques ! Nous suivons également avec grande attention les messages et conseils d'Abalone. Vers le 16 novembre, nous aimerions nous rendre au Lac de Babe par nos propres moyens. Nous savons que cela va être compliqué, mais quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus au niveau des bus à prendre, soit en partant de Hanoi, soit en partant de la région de Sapa. Merci à tous de votre aide. Jacques et Abalone, au secours !!!
Aller au lac de Ba Be en partant d'Hanoï?
by Cravoisier
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Nous serons à 4 au Vietnam du Nord entre le 4/11 et 1/12/2010. Nous avons déjà réservé un petit séjour chez Loan, à Tam Coc, grâce aux infos éclairées de Larsay. Merci Jacques ! Nous suivons également avec grande attention les messages et conseils d'Abalone. Vers le 16 novembre, nous aimerions nous rendre au Lac de Babe par nos propres moyens. Nous savons que cela va être compliqué, mais quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus au niveau des bus à prendre, soit en partant de Hanoi, soit en partant de la région de Sapa. Merci à tous de votre aide. Jacques et Abalone, au secours !!!
Nous serons à 4 au Vietnam du Nord entre le 4/11 et 1/12/2010. Nous avons déjà réservé un petit séjour chez Loan, à Tam Coc, grâce aux infos éclairées de Larsay. Merci Jacques ! Nous suivons également avec grande attention les messages et conseils d'Abalone. Vers le 16 novembre, nous aimerions nous rendre au Lac de Babe par nos propres moyens. Nous savons que cela va être compliqué, mais quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus au niveau des bus à prendre, soit en partant de Hanoi, soit en partant de la région de Sapa. Merci à tous de votre aide. Jacques et Abalone, au secours !!!
Bonjour
Pour aller par tes propres moyen sur Babé c'est pas facile et fatiguant mais je crois me souvenir qu'il n'y a un Hanoi- Cho Ra en bus public
ensuite de Cho Ra à Babé il y a encore 17 km.et Il faut prendre un moto-taxi( xe ôm)
si non tu prends un bus en open tour chez Sinh Cafés, Kim cafés, Darling cafés et autres
ou alors tu prends un tour organisé dans les agences locales de Hanoï. Bon périple!
si non tu prends un bus en open tour chez Sinh Cafés, Kim cafés, Darling cafés et autres
ou alors tu prends un tour organisé dans les agences locales de Hanoï. Bon périple!
Opale pour www.vietnam-vagabondages.com
Eh bien, il va etre heureux, Abalone, d'etre mis dans le meme sac que quelqu'un qu'il aimerait bien voir expulser et du Forum et du Vietnam 😏 !
Ceci dit, Babe en bus public, c'est la galere : taxi pour la gare routiere de hanoi, bus Ha Noi-Bac Kan, bus Bac Kan-Cho Ra (marques "Babe" pour qu'on s'y retrouve encore moins" et bien sur, pas un traitre mot d'anglais a la gare de Bac Kan), et apres, 4 motos Cho Ra-Pac Ngoi, a 70 000 dong x 1 AR = 560 000 D de moto SI les chauffeurs n'ont pas decide de vous squeezer vu qu'ils savent tres bien que vs etes coinces a Cho Ra. Welcome to friendly Vietnam !!!!!! Vous feriez mieux de prendre la 4x4 de Minh pour 3j et 2 soirees gastronomiques et hilarantes chez Duy Tho a Pac Ngoi, ca vs coutera $270 pour 3 jours, en passant par des petites routes a moi 😏
Ceci dit, Babe en bus public, c'est la galere : taxi pour la gare routiere de hanoi, bus Ha Noi-Bac Kan, bus Bac Kan-Cho Ra (marques "Babe" pour qu'on s'y retrouve encore moins" et bien sur, pas un traitre mot d'anglais a la gare de Bac Kan), et apres, 4 motos Cho Ra-Pac Ngoi, a 70 000 dong x 1 AR = 560 000 D de moto SI les chauffeurs n'ont pas decide de vous squeezer vu qu'ils savent tres bien que vs etes coinces a Cho Ra. Welcome to friendly Vietnam !!!!!! Vous feriez mieux de prendre la 4x4 de Minh pour 3j et 2 soirees gastronomiques et hilarantes chez Duy Tho a Pac Ngoi, ca vs coutera $270 pour 3 jours, en passant par des petites routes a moi 😏
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Eh bien, il va etre heureux, Abalone, d'etre mis dans le meme sac que quelqu'un qu'il aimerait bien voir expulser et du Forum et du Vietnam 😏 !
heureusement que l on n est pas 30 ans en arriere, sinon il te fusillerait ou il t enverrait dans un camp.😏😛🤪
sinon pour en revenir au sujet, il me semble avoir vu des taxis a cho ra, qui peuvent faire surement les derniers 17 kms, si toutefois on arrive a cho ra en bus.
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.org/
il reste toujours un peu de parfum à la main qui donne des roses
confucius
quelqu'un qu'il aimerait bien voir expulser et du Forum et du Vietnam 😏 !
Ah non alors !!!!🙁🙁on est déjà moins nombreux à aider les forumistes... et à nous retrouver virtuellement .... histoire de rigoler un peu 😕😕 et qui nous aidera à nous sortir des petits chemins en impasse ?
Ceci étant, il est vrai que le lac Ba Be, splendide d'après ce qu'on en rapporte, est un lieu difficile à atteindre.... c'est peut-être pour cela que le site est resté remarquable ..
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Ah non alors !!!!🙁🙁on est déjà moins nombreux à aider les forumistes... et à nous retrouver virtuellement .... histoire de rigoler un peu 😕😕 et qui nous aidera à nous sortir des petits chemins en impasse ?
Ceci étant, il est vrai que le lac Ba Be, splendide d'après ce qu'on en rapporte, est un lieu difficile à atteindre.... c'est peut-être pour cela que le site est resté remarquable ..
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Le camp, je veux bien ; je le connais et les gardiens me connaissent bien : c'est celui dans lequel je me suis retrouve en bicyclette le jour ou je voulais voir comment on fait sauter le pic calcaire a cote de Tam Coc ; c'est tout pret de chez Loan , elle m'amenera des oranges ; que ne ferais-je pas pour voir la belle Loan tous les jours !!!!! 😏
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
j espere qu il le restera encore longtemps.🙂
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.org/
il reste toujours un peu de parfum à la main qui donne des roses
confucius
holala, je sens comme un vent d'amertume ici !!
et la zen attitude, l'aurait-on perdu???😉
Opale pour www.vietnam-vagabondages.com
Merci Opale pour ta réponse !
Oups, pardon Jacques ! Etant nouvelle sur le forum, je ne suis pas encore au courant de vos divergences. Mais quel dommage ! nous sommes là pour s'entraider, non ?
Et faire le parcours de 17 km à pied, c'est faisable ou pas ? Il y a-til des endroits ou l'on peut faire des haltes sur le chemin ? Nous aurons tout notre temps ! le plus dur sera pour mois de convaincre tout le monde qu'il y aura peut-être un petit bout de route à parcourir à pattes !!! (je précise, native du Vietnam, je me débrouille un peu dans la langue)
S'entraider ? Je le croyais aussi, helas helas, que voulez-vous, certains ne peuvent pas ecrire 3 phrases sur ce Forum sans une reflexion desagreable (sans mentionner parfois de solides insultes !). Ainsi est fait le monde 😕
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Vous pouvez toujours faire celui-la, en partant de bonne heure (7h30-8h) de Pac Ngoi pour etre de retour a la riviere PAS APRES 16h
1) Prendre le bateau vers la grotte et s’arrêter où la piste démarre, le long d’une petite rivière à quelques centaines de mètres avant la grotte. Avant le pont sur votre gauche, acheter au marché local bière, café, et sucre, car les habitants du village Dao où l’on peut coucher, Cao Trung, sont très pauvres et rien n’est vraiment organisé pour les touristes. Acheter aussi du thé pour les locaux qui vous invitent chez eux au passage, ainsi que des bonbons/biscuits/stylos pour les enfants ; vous serez accueillis comme des dieux ! Face au pont, prenez la 1ère piste qui monte la colline et suivez-la ; vous allez tomber sur un dédale de pistes, donc demandez « Cao Choung » à des gens de passage, ils pointeront la direction. Ça ne grimpe pas trop dur, et les paysages deviennent de plus en plus beaux. Au bout de 2 heures et demie-3 heures, on arrive en plein Moyen Age dans un village de carte postale, Cao Trung. Authenticité garantie ! Le chef du village, monsieur TRUNG (tel : 0281 322 12422) vous accueille chez lui ; lits confortables, douche froide dehors, toilettes à la turc, le tout pour 50 000 dong par personne. Repas corrects, à l’alcool de riz, que le chef aime beaucoup (même prix). Pour plus de sûreté, demander à Duy Tho de Pac Ngoi d’appeler M. Trung pour le prévenir de votre arrivée
Si ca vs interesse, on se voit a Hanoi et je vs ferais un petit plan
1) Prendre le bateau vers la grotte et s’arrêter où la piste démarre, le long d’une petite rivière à quelques centaines de mètres avant la grotte. Avant le pont sur votre gauche, acheter au marché local bière, café, et sucre, car les habitants du village Dao où l’on peut coucher, Cao Trung, sont très pauvres et rien n’est vraiment organisé pour les touristes. Acheter aussi du thé pour les locaux qui vous invitent chez eux au passage, ainsi que des bonbons/biscuits/stylos pour les enfants ; vous serez accueillis comme des dieux ! Face au pont, prenez la 1ère piste qui monte la colline et suivez-la ; vous allez tomber sur un dédale de pistes, donc demandez « Cao Choung » à des gens de passage, ils pointeront la direction. Ça ne grimpe pas trop dur, et les paysages deviennent de plus en plus beaux. Au bout de 2 heures et demie-3 heures, on arrive en plein Moyen Age dans un village de carte postale, Cao Trung. Authenticité garantie ! Le chef du village, monsieur TRUNG (tel : 0281 322 12422) vous accueille chez lui ; lits confortables, douche froide dehors, toilettes à la turc, le tout pour 50 000 dong par personne. Repas corrects, à l’alcool de riz, que le chef aime beaucoup (même prix). Pour plus de sûreté, demander à Duy Tho de Pac Ngoi d’appeler M. Trung pour le prévenir de votre arrivée
Si ca vs interesse, on se voit a Hanoi et je vs ferais un petit plan
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
c est peut etre un grand defaut mais je suis un peu rencunier pour certaines choses, l interesse sait de quoi je parle.😠
a+😉
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.org/
il reste toujours un peu de parfum à la main qui donne des roses
confucius
Si je veux vous voir ? Génial !!! Il faudra voir comment on s'organise. On débarque à Hanoi le 5 novembre, on y reste également le 6, puis départ le 7 jusqu'au 11/11 chez Loan.
De toute façon, je vous tiens au courant. Un grand merci !
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Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!