je pars pour le Vietnam du 31.01.09 au 17.02.09 j'ai pas mal de question..mais commencons par celle ci... concernant le trajet Hanoi - Hue me conseillez vous de le faire en avion ou en train?...et est ce qu'il y a des choses à voir en passant..?
Faire le trajet Hanoï-Hué en avion ou en train?
by Pitch81
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Bonjour à tous,
je pars pour le Vietnam du 31.01.09 au 17.02.09 j'ai pas mal de question..mais commencons par celle ci... concernant le trajet Hanoi - Hue me conseillez vous de le faire en avion ou en train?...et est ce qu'il y a des choses à voir en passant..?
je pars pour le Vietnam du 31.01.09 au 17.02.09 j'ai pas mal de question..mais commencons par celle ci... concernant le trajet Hanoi - Hue me conseillez vous de le faire en avion ou en train?...et est ce qu'il y a des choses à voir en passant..?
Voyages voyages...!!
Bonjour Pitch,
Cela dépend de tes moyens...😛 (J'avais noté pour info un vol Hanoi-Danang à 58 dollars sur "Vietnam airlines", pour Hue cela doit être similaire.)
Sinon pour le trajet en train, c'est plutôt long et cela se fait généralement en train de nuit. (Départ vers 6h du soir de Hanoi, arrivée tôt le matin.)
Le trajet est par contre intéressant ensuite, de Hue à Hoi An, par le célèbre col des nuages.
Cela dépend de tes moyens...😛 (J'avais noté pour info un vol Hanoi-Danang à 58 dollars sur "Vietnam airlines", pour Hue cela doit être similaire.)
Sinon pour le trajet en train, c'est plutôt long et cela se fait généralement en train de nuit. (Départ vers 6h du soir de Hanoi, arrivée tôt le matin.)
Le trajet est par contre intéressant ensuite, de Hue à Hoi An, par le célèbre col des nuages.
Bonjour,
Et bien merci...car même si je ne suis pas decidé (ca se fera sur place) cela me donne au moins une idée..
effectivement le col des nuages fait partie du périple...mais le train peut etre utilisé pour ce trajet ? ou il se fait par la route ?
Et bien merci...car même si je ne suis pas decidé (ca se fera sur place) cela me donne au moins une idée..
effectivement le col des nuages fait partie du périple...mais le train peut etre utilisé pour ce trajet ? ou il se fait par la route ?
Voyages voyages...!!
Les 2.......(Je l'ai fait en bus.)
Les 2.......(Je l'ai fait en bus.)
Les bus passent maintenant sous le tunnel.
Pour voir lle paysage à partir du col des nuages, il vaut mieux passer en plein été, mais par un transport individuel, taxi ou moto.
En ce moment, il doit n'y avoir que des nuages, de la brume et de la flotte🙂
Les bus passent maintenant sous le tunnel.
Pour voir lle paysage à partir du col des nuages, il vaut mieux passer en plein été, mais par un transport individuel, taxi ou moto.
En ce moment, il doit n'y avoir que des nuages, de la brume et de la flotte🙂
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En train, c'est plus écologique
Entre Hanoi et Hué il y a Tam Coc (incontournable)
Col des Nuages : en train (incontournable) en espérant qu'il fasse beau pour de plus belles photos
La vue depuis l'avion n'est pas terrible, y'a pas de quoi sauter en l'air 🤪
Entre Hanoi et Hué il y a Tam Coc (incontournable)
Col des Nuages : en train (incontournable) en espérant qu'il fasse beau pour de plus belles photos
La vue depuis l'avion n'est pas terrible, y'a pas de quoi sauter en l'air 🤪
Le mauvais goût ou les opinions bizarres rendent la coexistence très difficile, mais leur interdiction la rend absolument impossible.
Daniel Innenarity
En train, c'est plus écologique
Mais le train ne s'arrête pas pour la pause photo🙂
Il semble que tu es passé par là, pas à la belle saison et le col des nuages a perdu sa magie.
Il est possible de louer un bateau au village de Lang Co pour explorer les plages en dessous du col.
Mais le train ne s'arrête pas pour la pause photo🙂
Il semble que tu es passé par là, pas à la belle saison et le col des nuages a perdu sa magie.
Il est possible de louer un bateau au village de Lang Co pour explorer les plages en dessous du col.
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Bonjour,
Pour train Hanoi - Hue : meilleur marché (17 à 25 EUR) mais il faut du temps. Il y a 2 trains SE1 (19h - 8h du lendemain à la gare Hue) et SE3 (23h à 10h du lendemain). La plupart du temps, c'est la nuit et vous ne pouvez pas voir les passages.
Pour le vol : ll y a 3 vols par jour/ à 6h30, 10h45, 19h30 et ca fait 1h15 de vol -> vite mais plus cher que le train et il faut aussi une nuit d'hotel à Hue.
À vous choisir ! Bon voyage ! Cordialement.
Pour train Hanoi - Hue : meilleur marché (17 à 25 EUR) mais il faut du temps. Il y a 2 trains SE1 (19h - 8h du lendemain à la gare Hue) et SE3 (23h à 10h du lendemain). La plupart du temps, c'est la nuit et vous ne pouvez pas voir les passages.
Pour le vol : ll y a 3 vols par jour/ à 6h30, 10h45, 19h30 et ca fait 1h15 de vol -> vite mais plus cher que le train et il faut aussi une nuit d'hotel à Hue.
À vous choisir ! Bon voyage ! Cordialement.
Je viens de faire une simulation pour l'avion avec JetStar au 3 fevrier (environ vos dates), le prix du billet est de 998.000 VND, soit a peu pres 50 Euros.
Si vous voulez aller a Tam Coc ou dans les environs, il vous est possible de le faire via une excursion d'un ou plusieurs jours (logement possible a Tam Coc pour prendre son temps) et remonter sur Ha Noi pour prendre l'avion.
Le voyage Ha Noi - Hue, en train, je ne sais pas, mais en bus, c'est certain, ce fait la nuit, donc question paysage, c'est plutot rate. En avion, vous voyagez de jour mais ne gagnez pas vraiment de temps puisqu'il y a les transferts ville - aeroport et vice-versa, en bus, vous gagnez une nuit d'hotel, mais pas forcement de sommeil 😉
Bienvenue au Viet Nam, il parait qu'il fait un froid de canard dans le Nord et a Ha Noi, n'oubliez pas votre pull et votre pyjama de pilou.
Cordialement, Pat
Le voyage Ha Noi - Hue, en train, je ne sais pas, mais en bus, c'est certain, ce fait la nuit, donc question paysage, c'est plutot rate. En avion, vous voyagez de jour mais ne gagnez pas vraiment de temps puisqu'il y a les transferts ville - aeroport et vice-versa, en bus, vous gagnez une nuit d'hotel, mais pas forcement de sommeil 😉
Bienvenue au Viet Nam, il parait qu'il fait un froid de canard dans le Nord et a Ha Noi, n'oubliez pas votre pull et votre pyjama de pilou.
Cordialement, Pat
Bonjour,
Tout dépend si vous préférez le côté typique du voyage ou le côté occidental. Pour le 1er, le train s'impose et pour le secondl'avion est ce qui correspond le mieux.
Tout dépend si vous préférez le côté typique du voyage ou le côté occidental. Pour le 1er, le train s'impose et pour le secondl'avion est ce qui correspond le mieux.
Moi j'avais fait le trajet en bus de nuit mais au nord les routes sont en plus mauvais état, j'avais mis 18h de bus pour relier les deux villes.
En train ou en avion ? tout dépend du temps que tu as, si tu es pressé prends l'avion...perso je trouve dommage car chaque fois que j'ai pris l'avion j'avais l'impression que ca coupait mon voyage. Mais pour d'autres c'est peut-être différent.🙂
En train ou en avion ? tout dépend du temps que tu as, si tu es pressé prends l'avion...perso je trouve dommage car chaque fois que j'ai pris l'avion j'avais l'impression que ca coupait mon voyage. Mais pour d'autres c'est peut-être différent.🙂
Et bien merci à tous pour vos info....personnellement et après vos témoignages...je vais plutôt me diriger par le train...car nous serons pas spécialement pressés pour ce trajet et n'avons pas de problèmes à passer une nuit ou plus dans train ou bus...de plus c'est plus avantageux niveau prix et la journée n'est pas coupée par un vol en pleine journée...
Voyages voyages...!!
bonjour, nous on n'a pas pu faire le col des nuages car il ne faisait pas assez beau. Pour le train les matelas sont noir sale. les couchettes sont climatisées mais la clim est général, non réglable et ne peut pas s'arrêter. Nous le guide avait scotché du journal sur la grille du plafond pour pas qu'on ai la clim directement sur nous. Nous n'avons pas été embêté durant la nuit etil y avait un drap et une couverture et coussin dans les lits; ils avaient l'air propre. Pour le paysage de nuit rien à voir. Au petit matin rien de bien différent de tout ce que nous avions vu ou nous allions voir. bon voyage
la vie est trop belle
bonjour, nous on n'a pas pu faire le col des nuages car il ne faisait pas assez beau
C'était à quelle date?
C'était à quelle date?
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Je vous aurai plutôt déconseillé le train... 15h de trajet pour faire 600km... creuvant, très bruyant, sale...
Sauf si vous faîte un voyage aventure sac à dos où la évidemment vous êtes typiquement au fin fond de la jungle vietnamienne lorsque vous prenez le train!!
L'avion est plus rapide bien évidemment, ce qui évite de perdre une journée entière et c'est bien sûr nettement moins fatiguant...
Au niveau du prix, la différence n'est pas énorme comparée au confort et à la rapidité!! Pour le paysage, la plupart des trains sont de nuit donc aucune utilité.
Sur ce, bon voyage!
"Le voyageur doit savoir pousser l'art de l'indécision jusqu'à ce que la chance le rattrape."
15h de trajet pour faire 600km...
ça dépend des trains: il y en a qui ne fait que 11 heures de trajet.
creuvant, très bruyant, sale...
ça dépend des classes de wagons: il y a des wagons très propres et confortables presque comme à l'hôtel.
Pour le paysage, la plupart des trains sont de nuit donc aucune utilité
Il y a des trains qui partent 12 H 15 d'Hanoi.
Au niveau du prix, la différence n'est pas énorme
En êtes-vous sûr? Il faut tenir compte du prix de la liaison Hanoi - Aéroport, et Ensuite Aéroport - Huê. Il faut tenir compte d'une nuit d'hôtel à Hanoi. Il faut tenir compte qu'en avion, on perd également une demi-journée.
Moralité: il est difficile de donner des conseils et des déconseils. Il vaut mieux donner des info pour permettre à chaque voyageur de choisir en toute liberté.
ça dépend des trains: il y en a qui ne fait que 11 heures de trajet.
creuvant, très bruyant, sale...
ça dépend des classes de wagons: il y a des wagons très propres et confortables presque comme à l'hôtel.
Pour le paysage, la plupart des trains sont de nuit donc aucune utilité
Il y a des trains qui partent 12 H 15 d'Hanoi.
Au niveau du prix, la différence n'est pas énorme
En êtes-vous sûr? Il faut tenir compte du prix de la liaison Hanoi - Aéroport, et Ensuite Aéroport - Huê. Il faut tenir compte d'une nuit d'hôtel à Hanoi. Il faut tenir compte qu'en avion, on perd également une demi-journée.
Moralité: il est difficile de donner des conseils et des déconseils. Il vaut mieux donner des info pour permettre à chaque voyageur de choisir en toute liberté.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
... "perdre une journée entière ... la rapidité" ...
Si c'est pas malheureux de lire de tels propos émanant d'une jeune fille de 20 ans. Je relis actuellement "L'usage du monde" de Nicoas Bouvier dans lequel il dit - entre autres choses - "le luxe le précieux, la lenteur" "L'avion est plus rapide bien évidemment" ...
écrire cela avec dans son avatar la devise : "Love your environment ... be proud of it". Y'a comme quelque chose que je comprends pas. la plupart des trains sont de nuit ... laisse présumer que certains sont de jour.
Je suis allé en train de nuit de Hanoi à Hué et je l'ai trouvé presque aussi correct qu'un train de nuit européen. Je suis revenu de jour et je peux vous dire que le paysage est fabuleux. Le train quitte à un certain moment la côte et la grand route pour s'engager entre les collines karstiques aux pieds des montagnes de l'intérieur du pays. Entre Dong Le et Huong Khe il fait pratiquement un virage à 360° comme pour nous montrer toute l'étendue de la beauté des lieux que l'on traverse. On est à deux pas du Laos. On a envie de descendre et d'être loin de ...
Bon je vais m'arrêter là parce que sinon je risque de m'énerver.
Si c'est pas malheureux de lire de tels propos émanant d'une jeune fille de 20 ans. Je relis actuellement "L'usage du monde" de Nicoas Bouvier dans lequel il dit - entre autres choses - "le luxe le précieux, la lenteur" "L'avion est plus rapide bien évidemment" ...
écrire cela avec dans son avatar la devise : "Love your environment ... be proud of it". Y'a comme quelque chose que je comprends pas. la plupart des trains sont de nuit ... laisse présumer que certains sont de jour.
Je suis allé en train de nuit de Hanoi à Hué et je l'ai trouvé presque aussi correct qu'un train de nuit européen. Je suis revenu de jour et je peux vous dire que le paysage est fabuleux. Le train quitte à un certain moment la côte et la grand route pour s'engager entre les collines karstiques aux pieds des montagnes de l'intérieur du pays. Entre Dong Le et Huong Khe il fait pratiquement un virage à 360° comme pour nous montrer toute l'étendue de la beauté des lieux que l'on traverse. On est à deux pas du Laos. On a envie de descendre et d'être loin de ...
Bon je vais m'arrêter là parce que sinon je risque de m'énerver.
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
libre de donner mon avis et quelques conseils liés à l'expérience que j'ai eu du Vietnam, rien de plus.
Dommage que votre expérience ne puisse pas servir aux autres🙂
Dommage que votre expérience ne puisse pas servir aux autres🙂
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Vers le 20/11/08. Je n'ai jamais fais de voyage organisé mais je n'ai pas apprécié notre guide. Je te répond ça car il y a que lui qui savait si le col était praticable ou pas.
la vie est trop belle
Vers le 20/11/08
Période de pluie à cette date là🙂
Période de pluie à cette date là🙂
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Mais dites moi quel débat !!...
je partage l'avis de Abalone...mieux vaut donner des informations...après les gens en font ce qu'ils veulent...
Pour répondre à un autre message et bien oui, je fais un voyage sac à dos. Donc le fait de prendre un train
pour plusieures heurs ne me pose aucun problème...par ex : j'ai fait tout le Pérou en bus souvent très moyens !!
DONC PAS DE SOUCI !
Merci encore pour vos infos...
Voyages voyages...!!
Et alors, quelle conclusion?
L'as tu fait en train? quel souvenir? Moi aussi j'ai fait le Pérou en bus, la Chine en train... quand on voyage le temps n'est pas le meître mot, il vaut mieux à mon avis découvrir moins de choses mais les vivre pleinement.
Personne n'a parlé du trajet dans l'autre sens.... se fait il de jour?
Merci
Je pars au Vietnam au mois de mai, j'ai hâte
La conclusion ?
Ce trajet je l'ai effectué en bus de nuit pour finir (Ninh Bin - Hué) donc certainement pas aussi beau qu'en train... on a de plus heurté un boeuf durant la nuit :-(
Mais je gardes un souvenir impérissable de ce magnifique pays qu'est le Vietnam
Ce trajet je l'ai effectué en bus de nuit pour finir (Ninh Bin - Hué) donc certainement pas aussi beau qu'en train... on a de plus heurté un boeuf durant la nuit :-(
Mais je gardes un souvenir impérissable de ce magnifique pays qu'est le Vietnam
Voyages voyages...!!
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· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)






