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Visa de travail pour la Chine: 3 mois d'essai
by Fdida
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je viens de parcourir le forum et j'ai trouvé pas mal de réponses concernant les Visas pour la Chine. Cependant ma situation étant un peu particulière, j'aurai voulu avoir votre avis et expérience sur la question.
Je suis architecte et on vient de me proposer un travail à Beijing avec un contrat de 3 ans. Cependant j'ai d'abord à passer une période d'essai de 3 mois.
Je suis passé au Consulat et j'ai appelé aussi ActionVisa pour avoir des réponses. Ma boîte en chine m'a demandé de prendre un VISA F ou M. Mais impossible de l'avoir sans emploi en France ou une lettre de mission.
Le VISA Z me sera payé par l'agence en Chine si je suis approuvé à la suite des 3 mois.
Il me reste alors le VISA L (Tourisme) qui est de 30 jours.
J'aurai voulu savoir si il était simple une fois sur place de le renouveler deux fois, vu que je dois rester au moins 3 mois. Quelles sont les modalités concernant le prolongement? Dois-je repayer à chaque fois un billet de retour à la date d'expiration du VISA? et dois-je quitter le pays pendant la démarche?
Mon soucis c'est que je dois peser les pour et les contre concernant cette offre vis-à-vis des coûts que cela pourrait impliquer.
J'ai aussi lu que les autorités chinoises étaient plus impliquées qu'avant concernant les vérifications des travailleurs illégaux. Mon problème est que c'est la seule solution que je trouve pour pouvoir faire ma période d'essai. Sont-ils vraiment rigoureux sur des périodes de quelques mois seulement?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, je patauge pas mal ces jours-ci...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, je patauge pas mal ces jours-ci...
Bonjour,
Le contrat de travail Chinois inclus une période d'essai (moins de 6 mois pour un contrat de 3 ans).
Il est illégal de travailler en Chine avec un visa L. Il est illégal de toucher un salaire avec un visa F.
Ils contrôlent et ils ne rigolent pas du tout (15 jours de prison + 1000 euros d'amende + expulsion).
En aucun cas je tenterais l'aventure avec un visa L.
Bonjour Franck
Je confirme ce que dit Laurent. Non seulement vous risquez gros, mais vous prenez tout le risque sur vous alors que c'est à votre employeur de faire les démarches. S'il vous veut, ce ne sont pas les frais d'un visa Z qui devraient l'arrêter. Au pire acceptez de leur rembourser le coût du visa si vous ne finissez pas la période d'essai - j'imagine que vous ne serez pas à quelques euros près - mais refusez catégoriquement de travailler sans un visa Z.
S'ils insistent c'est qu'ils sont malhonnêtes, êtes-vous bien sûr de vouloir travailler pour un employeur de cet acabit?
Et oui ils sont "vraiment rigoureux". La Chine n'est pas un pays libertaire, ça se saurait. Souvent ce n'est pas au moment donné, mais au renouvellement à HK ou Taïwan (il faut sortir du territoire pour faire tamponner le nouveau visa à l'entrée du territoire) qu'on vous expliquera qu'on se moque que vous ayez un appartement, un loyer et des affaires en Chine, et que vous pouvez acheter un billet pour Paris car on ne voudra plus de vous sur place pour quelques années...
RS
Et oui ils sont "vraiment rigoureux". La Chine n'est pas un pays libertaire, ça se saurait. Souvent ce n'est pas au moment donné, mais au renouvellement à HK ou Taïwan (il faut sortir du territoire pour faire tamponner le nouveau visa à l'entrée du territoire) qu'on vous expliquera qu'on se moque que vous ayez un appartement, un loyer et des affaires en Chine, et que vous pouvez acheter un billet pour Paris car on ne voudra plus de vous sur place pour quelques années...
RS
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Merci beaucoup à toutes les personnes qui prendront le temps de me répondre. Tous vos conseils et retours d'expérience seront les bienvenus !
Je m'appelle Deborah, je suis française. Je suis mariée et j'ai 2 enfants. Je suis psychologue clinicienne spécialisée en psychotraumatologie et je poursuis en parallèle des études de médecine.
Depuis quelque temps, je réfléchis sérieusement à un projet d'expatriation aux États-Unis. Mon objectif serait, à terme, d'exercer la médecine aux USA, avec un intérêt particulier pour la médecine légale (Forensic Pathology). Je sais que le parcours est exigeant (USMLE, résidence, fellowship, etc.), mais je suis prête à m'investir sur plusieurs années.
Pour le moment, je cherche surtout à construire ce projet intelligemment. Je souhaite améliorer mon anglais, mieux comprendre le système américain et échanger avec des personnes qui sont déjà passées par ce parcours ou qui vivent aux États-Unis.
J'aurais plusieurs questions :
- Y a-t-il ici des médecins ou des étudiants internationaux qui ont réussi à intégrer une résidence aux États-Unis ? - À quel moment avez-vous commencé à préparer le USMLE ? - Quels conseils donneriez-vous à quelqu'un qui est encore en études de médecine ? - Quels États recommanderiez-vous pour une future carrière en médecine légale, avec une bonne qualité de vie et de bonnes écoles pour les enfants ? - Est-il préférable de faire un observership ou un stage de recherche avant de candidater à une résidence ? - Quels sont, selon vous, les pièges à éviter lorsqu'on prépare un tel projet ?
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