Visiter Torres del Paine
by Fcoinaud
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous (un couple) allons quitter El Calafate le mardi 31 décembre au matin (bus de 08h00 environ) en direction du parc Torres del Paine. J'étais parti pour réserver 3 nuits à l’hôtel Cabanas del Paine, presque à l’entrée du parc. Mais en lisant les avis sur différents sites, je m'aperçois que les gens conseillent de louer une voiture pour pouvoir se déplacer à l'intérieur du parc. Du coup j'ai changé d'avis, je vais dormir le 31 à Puerto natales puis y louer une voiture pour les 2 prochains jours à l'intérieur du parc.
Est ce une bonne idée (je peux encore changer) ? ...car finalement les hôtels proposent des excursions et la voiture risque de ne me servir à rien. Si la voiture est une bonne idée, avez-vous des suggestions pour occuper au mieux ces 2 journées dans le parc.Si pas besoin de voiture, je réserve la nuit du 31 dans le même hôtel mais alors est ce que le bus venant de El calafate fait un stop non loin de l'hôtel, et sinon comment le rejoindre ? nous aurons 2 grosses valises !D’autre part à la suite de cette étape, nous arriverons le vendredi 3 à Punta Arenas dernière étape avant le vol de retour à santiago le dimanche 5 janvier : grosso modo ça fait 2 demi-journées et 1 journée complète : quels sont les immanquables en si peu de temps.
Merci de votre aide.
Jean François
Hello,
je me joins à tes demandes, car nous sommes dans la même situation. Nous comptons passer 5 jours pour visiter la région de Torres del Paine, mais ne savons pas encore comment nous loger. Nous aurions aimé faire des rando à la journée et le soir, rentrer dormir soit à l'hotel soit dans une pension, sachant que nous aimerions limiter le coût! Si je récupère des bons plans sur d'autres forums, je t'en ferai part.
Bonne préparation, Mathilde
je me joins à tes demandes, car nous sommes dans la même situation. Nous comptons passer 5 jours pour visiter la région de Torres del Paine, mais ne savons pas encore comment nous loger. Nous aurions aimé faire des rando à la journée et le soir, rentrer dormir soit à l'hotel soit dans une pension, sachant que nous aimerions limiter le coût! Si je récupère des bons plans sur d'autres forums, je t'en ferai part.
Bonne préparation, Mathilde
Mathilde Montagnon
Salut jean françois!
Je ne sais pas ou tu as lu qu'il était possible de se déplacer en voiture dans le ce parc mais sache que c'est totalement faux. Visiter ce parc et les magnifique endroits qui le compose ne peut se faire qu'en marchant. C'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu il est reconnu, et quand je dis à la marche c'est surtout à du trek que je fait allusion.
il existe des circuits guidés en minibus depuis puerto natales mais il ne propose qu'un aperçu de ce que le parc peu offrir. En tout je ne pense pas qu'avec ta voiture de location il te soit permis de faire le même circuit.
A partir d'El Calafate, vous ne pourrez pas rejoindre le parc directement, a moins que vous ne soyez dans un tour organisé, vous devrez vous arrêtez a puerto natales, de là des bus font le trajet quotidiennement. Il faut vous renseigner pour savoir quelle compagnie vous dépose au plus prêt de votre hotel, ou demander a l’hôtel directement, ils ont peu être des navettes.
Je pense que vous devriez faire les excursions de l'hôtel, la voiture n'est pas nécessaire crois moi. Etes vous equipés? en matériel de rando? chaussures, vêtements pour la pluie ou le vent?
Les principaux sites de ce parc nécessitent de 1 à 3 jours de marche et pour les plus endurcis sa peu aller à 7! Il est possible de camper dans le parc, mais des petits hôtels à différentes étapes du circuits de 3 jours propose des chambres.
Je ne sais pas si j'ai été assez clair dis moi si tu as d'autres questions. Mike
Je ne sais pas ou tu as lu qu'il était possible de se déplacer en voiture dans le ce parc mais sache que c'est totalement faux. Visiter ce parc et les magnifique endroits qui le compose ne peut se faire qu'en marchant. C'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu il est reconnu, et quand je dis à la marche c'est surtout à du trek que je fait allusion.
il existe des circuits guidés en minibus depuis puerto natales mais il ne propose qu'un aperçu de ce que le parc peu offrir. En tout je ne pense pas qu'avec ta voiture de location il te soit permis de faire le même circuit.
A partir d'El Calafate, vous ne pourrez pas rejoindre le parc directement, a moins que vous ne soyez dans un tour organisé, vous devrez vous arrêtez a puerto natales, de là des bus font le trajet quotidiennement. Il faut vous renseigner pour savoir quelle compagnie vous dépose au plus prêt de votre hotel, ou demander a l’hôtel directement, ils ont peu être des navettes.
Je pense que vous devriez faire les excursions de l'hôtel, la voiture n'est pas nécessaire crois moi. Etes vous equipés? en matériel de rando? chaussures, vêtements pour la pluie ou le vent?
Les principaux sites de ce parc nécessitent de 1 à 3 jours de marche et pour les plus endurcis sa peu aller à 7! Il est possible de camper dans le parc, mais des petits hôtels à différentes étapes du circuits de 3 jours propose des chambres.
Je ne sais pas si j'ai été assez clair dis moi si tu as d'autres questions. Mike
J'espère aussi avoir répondu à tes questions, n'hésite pas au cas où!!
Amicalment
Bonjour,
nous étions à torres del paine en avril 2009 (automne en patagonie = couleurs magnifiques) .nous avions également quitté el calafate en bus, passé la frontière chilienne puis sommes arrivés à puerto natales ou nous avions réservé une voiture.(1h30 de route pour aller à Torres del paine)
De mon point de vue, à torres del paine la voiture est incontournable. Le parc est grand et cela vous permettra d'être autonomes et d'aller ou bon vous semble. le minimum serait 3 jours 2 nuits si vous voulez rendre justice ce parc. 6-7 jours si vous voulez randonner. Nous avions dormi en bordure de parc
Vous pouvez juger sur pièce et voir les paysages qui vous attendent sur ce site :
http://www.travelearth-photography.com/p150101882
je vous joins la carte ci dessous qui vous permettra d'appréhender les lieux ou aller ainsi que la localisation des hôtels. Je vous conseille particulièrement : Lago grey Lago Nordenskjold Lago pehoe rio paine
Après, pour aller à punta arenas, de souvenir, il n y a pas grands chose d'exceptionnel a voir.
nous étions à torres del paine en avril 2009 (automne en patagonie = couleurs magnifiques) .nous avions également quitté el calafate en bus, passé la frontière chilienne puis sommes arrivés à puerto natales ou nous avions réservé une voiture.(1h30 de route pour aller à Torres del paine)
De mon point de vue, à torres del paine la voiture est incontournable. Le parc est grand et cela vous permettra d'être autonomes et d'aller ou bon vous semble. le minimum serait 3 jours 2 nuits si vous voulez rendre justice ce parc. 6-7 jours si vous voulez randonner. Nous avions dormi en bordure de parc
Vous pouvez juger sur pièce et voir les paysages qui vous attendent sur ce site :
http://www.travelearth-photography.com/p150101882
je vous joins la carte ci dessous qui vous permettra d'appréhender les lieux ou aller ainsi que la localisation des hôtels. Je vous conseille particulièrement : Lago grey Lago Nordenskjold Lago pehoe rio paine
Après, pour aller à punta arenas, de souvenir, il n y a pas grands chose d'exceptionnel a voir.
Bonjour,
Il y a différentes manières d'aborder le TdP:
- certains y vont pour trekker plusieurs jours et donc un véhicule perso est inutile autant prendre le bus ou un transport privé de type excursion ou minibus
- d'autres y vont pour voir de loin, faire qqs petites marches, éventuellement un tour sur un lago. Là trois options: * le faire par soi-même avec une voiture de loc je conseille au moins 1 nuit dans le parc (hôtel ou refugio - de Las Torres par exemple) * le faire avec un excursionniste au départ de Puerto Natales - nuit(s) possibles dans le parc * prendre le bus public allant au parc et s'arrêtant en divers points, ensuite envisager un transport privé pour rejoindre l'hôtel (à cause des valises - donc attention au coût...)
Ce n'est pas parce qu'on ne trekke pas qu'il est inintéressant ou inutile d'y aller et dans ce cas une voiture permet la liberté de ses arrêts
Il y a différentes manières d'aborder le TdP:
- certains y vont pour trekker plusieurs jours et donc un véhicule perso est inutile autant prendre le bus ou un transport privé de type excursion ou minibus
- d'autres y vont pour voir de loin, faire qqs petites marches, éventuellement un tour sur un lago. Là trois options: * le faire par soi-même avec une voiture de loc je conseille au moins 1 nuit dans le parc (hôtel ou refugio - de Las Torres par exemple) * le faire avec un excursionniste au départ de Puerto Natales - nuit(s) possibles dans le parc * prendre le bus public allant au parc et s'arrêtant en divers points, ensuite envisager un transport privé pour rejoindre l'hôtel (à cause des valises - donc attention au coût...)
Ce n'est pas parce qu'on ne trekke pas qu'il est inintéressant ou inutile d'y aller et dans ce cas une voiture permet la liberté de ses arrêts
Je prépare également un voyage en Patagonie, le 3ème. Ca sera la 4ème visite dans le parc Torres del Paine. En principe je ne passais sur le forum que pour glâner quelques infos mais il m'est impossible de ne pas intervenir pour appuyer les dires de TravelEarth et m'étonner des informations de Mikeauré.
Bien sur qu'il est possible d'emprunter les mêmes routes avec son véhicule qu'avec un tour organisé! C'est quoi ce délire ??? Comme l'a dit TravelEarth, la route parcourt de nombreux kilomètres dans l'enceinte du parc et par beau temps, c'est un émerveillement à chaque virage. Avoir ta propre voiture te permettra de stopper lorsque tu croiseras des guanacos, de photographier les lacs turquoise (magnifique Laguna Amarga!)...
Une carte ici: http://www.torres-del-paine.org/images/tdp-map09-a.jpg
Quant aux randonnées, beaucoup de visiteurs se lancent en fait sur des treks qui durent plusieurs jours. En passant, je ne sais pas où Mikeauré a vu des petits hôtels avec des chambres sur ces parcours. Ce sont des refuges.
Mais rien ne t'empêche d'aller p.ex. au Mirador Torres depuis l'Hosteria Las Torres. C'est un randonnée à la journée engagée mais parcourue par beaucoup de monde. Si tu suis la route vers Pingo après l'admistration CONAF, tu peux faire une balade facile depuis la Guarderia Lago Grey le long de l'estuaire du Lago Grey (une plage). Demande des conseils aux guardaparque lorsque tu rentres dans le parc, il sauront te conseiller.
Par contre il te faudra trouver à te loger entre les 2 jours que tu passeras dans le parc. Aucune recommandation de ma part, j'avais campé à Las Torres.
Bon voyage!
-- Philippe
Bien sur qu'il est possible d'emprunter les mêmes routes avec son véhicule qu'avec un tour organisé! C'est quoi ce délire ??? Comme l'a dit TravelEarth, la route parcourt de nombreux kilomètres dans l'enceinte du parc et par beau temps, c'est un émerveillement à chaque virage. Avoir ta propre voiture te permettra de stopper lorsque tu croiseras des guanacos, de photographier les lacs turquoise (magnifique Laguna Amarga!)...
Une carte ici: http://www.torres-del-paine.org/images/tdp-map09-a.jpg
Quant aux randonnées, beaucoup de visiteurs se lancent en fait sur des treks qui durent plusieurs jours. En passant, je ne sais pas où Mikeauré a vu des petits hôtels avec des chambres sur ces parcours. Ce sont des refuges.
Mais rien ne t'empêche d'aller p.ex. au Mirador Torres depuis l'Hosteria Las Torres. C'est un randonnée à la journée engagée mais parcourue par beaucoup de monde. Si tu suis la route vers Pingo après l'admistration CONAF, tu peux faire une balade facile depuis la Guarderia Lago Grey le long de l'estuaire du Lago Grey (une plage). Demande des conseils aux guardaparque lorsque tu rentres dans le parc, il sauront te conseiller.
Par contre il te faudra trouver à te loger entre les 2 jours que tu passeras dans le parc. Aucune recommandation de ma part, j'avais campé à Las Torres.
Bon voyage!
-- Philippe
Bonjour,
Merci pour ton message et tes sages explications. Peut-être avais-je été trop imprécis dans ma demande..nous n'allons pas là-bas pur faire des trek de 7 jours mais juste pour y passer 2 journées. J'ai déjà réservé une voiture et je pense que c'est une bonne décision.
Merci à tous ceux qui ont pris le temps de me répondre et bon voyage à ceux qui partent.
JF Coinaud
Bonjour Pnoth
je me permet de te poser une question quelque peu redondante sur la visite du Torres del Paine
une amie et moi envisageons ( allons nous rendre dans le parc) nous ne sommes pas des "trekkeurs" mais, nous pouvons marcher et nous aimerions visiter ce parc, tout comme J François, soit :
loger à à Puerto Natales, y louer une voiture (quel type nous conseillerais tu ? d'après ta description, un 4x4 ne semble pas nécessaire)
chaque jour nous rendre à un endroit différent et faire une promenade de "x heures" afin de visiter ce magnifique site, puis rentrer à l'hotel
tu sembles affirmer que notre projet est plus qu'envisageable
pourrais tu confirmer et m'apporter quelques conseils
cordialement
Michel
je me permet de te poser une question quelque peu redondante sur la visite du Torres del Paine
une amie et moi envisageons ( allons nous rendre dans le parc) nous ne sommes pas des "trekkeurs" mais, nous pouvons marcher et nous aimerions visiter ce parc, tout comme J François, soit :
loger à à Puerto Natales, y louer une voiture (quel type nous conseillerais tu ? d'après ta description, un 4x4 ne semble pas nécessaire)
chaque jour nous rendre à un endroit différent et faire une promenade de "x heures" afin de visiter ce magnifique site, puis rentrer à l'hotel
tu sembles affirmer que notre projet est plus qu'envisageable
pourrais tu confirmer et m'apporter quelques conseils
cordialement
Michel
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Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
